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Jun 30, 2012 4:25 PM
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so kid did get involved

Jun 30, 2012 4:28 PM
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dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn i got chills reading this fucking epic chapter and all can u say is so kid did get involved ?
Jun 30, 2012 5:12 PM
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Well, the chapter was great. So many things got revealed...
Jun 30, 2012 5:18 PM
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Surprised Kid was involved in a BO case. First time that's happened.

Really enjoy it. Course, they still have the 'secret' of who Okiya is to reveal and deal with.

Also Kir should pop up soon. They already suspect her to have let Akai live during the Department Store case; now it might get even worse for her.
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Jun 30, 2012 6:32 PM
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I had totally forgotten about Kid being on the train.
Nice Chapter.
Jun 30, 2012 7:27 PM
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Felt like I was reading a fanfic (and that's not a compliment in my mouth).
Jun 30, 2012 11:24 PM
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The Mystery Train arc has finally reached its resolution and what a resolution it was! That's what I wanted to say at first, but after reading this chapter I can't say that I'm completely satisfied.

The most controversial moment is, of course, Kid's involvement. I happen to be one of those people who don't like Kaitou Kid and really don't care about Kid's cases. Because of that I think that the plots of two separate mangas should not intertwine - so while Kaitou Kid may be in a nice filler case, there's no way he should be in the BO case(because honestly, he shouldn't even exist in Conan's world). But Goshou decided otherwise. Of course, it's nothing like the movies, where Kid knows Conan's identity and they're on very good terms, but I'm afraid that manga started to move in that direction. After this case Kid is sure to do some investigating... or maybe he already did. At least, the way Kid decided to help was believable - I mean, that he was forced to cooperate and wasn't in cahoots with Conan from the beginning. Yeah, it was rather risky - Kid could have escaped earlier or just ignore Conan but, being a gentleman he is, he lend him a hand gladly. Also it seems very unlikely that Kid wasn't spotted flying as adult Haibara - despite the explosion, Amuro was quick to recover, and hand glider should very visible in the air from a short distance. Oh well, Kid is a genius in escaping after all... Still, it managed to surprise the reader(although I will be against further Kid involvement) and made the file unpredictable.

Aside from Kid, thanks to the latest file we can say that all the mysterious identities have been revealed. Of course, stubborn people may continue to believe that Sera addressed Akai as 'nii' because it is common for Japanese people to call unrelated by blood people as 'brother' or 'sister'; that Amuro called himself Bourbon just because he wanted to, and in reality he intended to protect Haibara by pretending to be a BO agent and stealing her away from the hands of BO; that Okiya's eye is just a contact lens etc. For me, it's obvious - the arc confirmed everyone's identities.

But having been advertised as the most 'zeroing-on-truth' moment in the history of Detective Conan, after reading the arc I feel a little disappointed. Yeah, we knew who was who already, and now we received confirmation - it's a big thing. But aside from that - practically nothing. The things have gone back to the way they used to with no real development - Conan and his team now know everything(except BO facts), while Vermouth and Bourbon are in the dark. Conan's side would have been at advantage if Vermouth also had been fooled into thinking that Sherry is dead - but no, she knows that Sherry is alive. Really, another stalemate - and only a slight victory for Conan(but I guess that they remained alive and weren't blown up make this big enough).

Well, to sum it all up, things remained mainly as they were - and I thought they wouldn't. It isn't even an end of Bourbon arc because Amuro may continue(and I'm certain he will) to snoop around...It will take another major confrontation to shake things up a bit, but that will be around file 900(would be glad to be wrong if it comes sooner).

Right now I'm prepared for a Detective Boys case with no plot relation whatsoever...
Jul 1, 2012 12:50 AM
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What an awesome chapter! Surprised that Kaitou Kid got involved. Didn't see that coming ;))
If I became a Hunter, I can catch all my family member and sell them for high price
Jul 1, 2012 1:07 AM
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It was a good arc, but lacked the intensity of other BO arcs, in my opinion. Probably just not enough Gin or any other real competition for Conan.
Jul 1, 2012 1:25 AM

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WHAAAAT! The arc's over already? Noooo... It's was good while it lasted. I love these arcs in Detective Conan... they really do make all the Detective Boys cases worth reading to get to these :)


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Jul 1, 2012 4:06 AM

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The silhouette part was good.
Jul 1, 2012 12:49 PM

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I've just read the whole case after waiting for all the files to be released. I gotta say, it's AWESOME.

The second I saw the smiling mailing lady I knew: "Vermouth, yeah, right, it's totally Yukiko". I know Gosho a bit by now. Even about KID getting involved, I predicted right.
I'm also SO GLAD Gosho didn't forget about the CG programmer thing (even if we're still in the dark about what it was about) and the tapes Haibara got from her mother. It all has a reason and meaning, very good, very good!

I'm only kind of disappointed that Akai is not dead. It was pretty obvious but I did hope Subaru would turn out to be Shinichi's father instead, he is way more cool than Akai after all. Still hoping he'll appear and help, it is his son and wife getting involved.

Also - it turned out to be the most obvious resolution. I mean EVERYBODY AND THEIR MOTHER considered Burned-Cheek-Akai to be Bourbon, Subaru to be the real Akai in disguise and Sera to be Akai's sister. It's like the first thing that came to mind. Oh well, it was still totally cool. Even though (or maybe because) CONAN DIDN'T DO CRAP. Except for solving the case nobody cared about (though it was good).

However it didn't exactly end. I predict a lot of explanations to come, hopefully in the next chapter(s). For example - how come Akai is unfortunately still alive? Why did Sera spy on Haibara? And obviously: how much did Conan know, how and since when? Did he knew Subaru=Akai when he allowed him to live in his house (probably)? Did he know that The Assistant Whose Name You Don't Remember Because Of His Late Appearance And Clearly Being Somebody Else So Why Would You Care was Bourbon the whole time? Hopefully not - I mean, why would he wait for him to threaten Haibara's life to let him go?
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Jul 1, 2012 5:23 PM

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Kid involvement was predictable so I was not surprised when event turn out the way it did. All this arc did was the confirmation of what almost every fans suspected from the get go, really Gosho is losing his touch there. I mean he did a better job with the doc being Vermouth in disguise that was a shocker!

I like many other wished for Akai to be alive and being Subaru, and now that it is revealed to be so, well I wished that Subaru was just Subaru. I mean he's nothing like Akai, well not that Akai was a well developed character to begin with. The way Subaru acts around others and the way Akai does is different isn't it? and the way he looks now even his own sister didn't recognize him(one hell of a disguise I mean he went Michael Jackson on us!)

Anyway the two pluses in this chapter: seing the real Akai with no scar thank you very much and Subaru's open eye. I so want to see him in full color with both eyes open without glasses.
Jul 8, 2012 4:26 PM

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I was right.. The case with Kid + BO did happen in the end.. ;D
Jul 13, 2012 12:21 PM

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Now that we know Amuro is Bourbon, I wonder what is his relation with Wataru Date? (Chpter 804-808) Maybe there is a BO agent in the police after all?
Aug 21, 2012 3:45 AM

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Holy crap, chills man. That was amazing!! XD
Kaito Kid, I seems like he was all, "Wtf?" Nahahahaha. That was simply the best!
and lol at Shinichi. "Yo! I know you're doin' your Phantom Thief thing and being a ninja, but I kinda need ya right now." XD
-KazuAug 21, 2012 3:56 AM
Mar 18, 2013 9:15 AM

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Hoooly crappppp!!!!

I usually don't read Conan manga since I've been trying to watch Conan main story episodes instead but I got bored last night so I picked this one randomly on Mangafox. Best random decision ever!

That was as other's would say. "Fucking epic"

That twist at the end. Shinichi wins. Big time.
May 9, 2013 8:24 AM

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what a trick... nice acting yukiko, also i'm glad to see kid's face again.



Jul 13, 2013 9:12 PM

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I got pretty much all of the identities I guessed about while watching the anime right. I'm so happy! Kaito Kid's appearence was a surprise, but it was awesome.
Feb 9, 2015 5:37 PM

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Kaitou Kid, huh... mixed feelings on that.
Oct 21, 2020 5:57 AM

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Too much disguises like in Vermouth arc, and weaker plot twists. That said, I'm digging everything revolving Shuuichi, and seeing Yukiko and Sharon finally in the same arc was satisfying.
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Whenever Kaitou Kid was around, he always had that cool exit. I love it though!

She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did!

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