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Dangerr said: roiabrazaldo said: First, Hi guys! I'm new here :) A full fan of Hunter X Hunter universe. I can't help but to express my thoughts about this NEW episode everyone have been waiting for. I voted 1 out of 5. Yes. I have a couple of reasons why. I might add up a spoiler so be cautious.. or I may not since the episode spoiled it itself to the viewer. Again, I really don't understand how this was "ruined" because certain events were slightly changed or chronologically rearranged. Literally, the only difference between what happens in the manga and what happens here, as far as Kite's relationship with Gon goes, is that Gon's motivation to become a hunter was just inspired through the villagers instead of Kite; and that object for motivation is unchanged, which is his father. Otherwise, he still saved Gon as a child, and they still had a conversation that's very similar to the one they had in the manga, though years later. Its not like Gon spent a substantial amount of time with Kite in chapter 1 of the manga, anyways. If any of you have read the Song of Ice and Fire book series, then I'd love to see how you'd all react to the Game of Thrones TV adaption going on right now. The show's taken many, MANY more liberties than HxH has with its source material, but it's still a damn good show. It doesn't need to be a carbon-copy of the source-material to be good. I'll even concede that 2011's interpretation of the Kite-Gon relationship isn't as good as the source material. Even so, it's marginal. Pretty much all of this. Gon is still Ginn's son, the son of Kite's sensei. So for kite the relation does not change one bit. And Gon? Gon will become best friends forever with a mouse if the situation is right. I am perfectly with with the adaption of Madhouse, and it REALLY is not a big deal at all. The game of thrones comparison is fantastic, and if anyone of you ever read the sword of truth series, and watched the monster that was the supposed TV-series based on the books, you will know what truly screwing over an original storyline is. |
roiabrazaldo said: Dangerr said: roiabrazaldo said: First, Hi guys! I'm new here :) A full fan of Hunter X Hunter universe. I can't help but to express my thoughts about this NEW episode everyone have been waiting for. I voted 1 out of 5. Yes. I have a couple of reasons why. I might add up a spoiler so be cautious.. or I may not since the episode spoiled it itself to the viewer. Again, I really don't understand how this was "ruined" because certain events were slightly changed or chronologically rearranged. Literally, the only difference between what happens in the manga and what happens here, as far as Kite's relationship with Gon goes, is that Gon's motivation to become a hunter was just inspired through the villagers instead of Kite. Otherwise, he still saved Gon as a child, and they still had a conversation that's very similar to the one they had in the manga, though years later. Its not like Gon spent a substantial amount of time with Kite in chapter 1 of the manga, anyways. If any of you have read the Song of Ice and Fire book series, then I'd love to see how you'd all react to the Game of Thrones TV adaption going on right now. The show's taken many, MANY more liberties than HxH has with its source material, but it's still a damn good show. It doesn't need to be a carbon-copy of the source-material to be good. I'll even concede that 2011's interpretation of the Kite-Gon relationship isn't as good. Even so, it's marginal. Gon was not inspired by the villagers. They never. It never happened or mentioned. This is the hole that I was talking about.. How did Gon knew about the Hunters, How did he knew his father is alive? its the bedrock of the story. I do not want to make argue or anything but dude. I don't know everything you said about the 2nd paragraph you posted. I have no interest. wait maybe thats it. INTEREST. depending on the degree of interest we have, we may say "its okay" or rage the F out. like you, you might not have that level of interest I have about the story of this anime, so for you its fine enough if they will change something or not. as for me I do not like it. so maybe that covers it ok? no point to argue. I quickly edited my post; it wasn't the villagers that actually motivated him, but the fact that they told him his father was in fact alive, and a hunter. Kite basically said the same exact thing. Thematically, it served the same purpose, which is the fixation on his father. Also, my tolerance to accept flexibility on part of the show's producers doesn't have much to do with my love of the source material, or "interest", as you put it. HxH is among my favorite shonen. I don't believe that being able to accept a change such as this is besmirching the spirit of the source material as you are saying, however. |
roiabrazaldo said: Dangerr said: roiabrazaldo said: First, Hi guys! I'm new here :) A full fan of Hunter X Hunter universe. I can't help but to express my thoughts about this NEW episode everyone have been waiting for. I voted 1 out of 5. Yes. I have a couple of reasons why. I might add up a spoiler so be cautious.. or I may not since the episode spoiled it itself to the viewer. Again, I really don't understand how this was "ruined" because certain events were slightly changed or chronologically rearranged. Literally, the only difference between what happens in the manga and what happens here, as far as Kite's relationship with Gon goes, is that Gon's motivation to become a hunter was just inspired through the villagers instead of Kite. Otherwise, he still saved Gon as a child, and they still had a conversation that's very similar to the one they had in the manga, though years later. Its not like Gon spent a substantial amount of time with Kite in chapter 1 of the manga, anyways. If any of you have read the Song of Ice and Fire book series, then I'd love to see how you'd all react to the Game of Thrones TV adaption going on right now. The show's taken many, MANY more liberties than HxH has with its source material, but it's still a damn good show. It doesn't need to be a carbon-copy of the source-material to be good. I'll even concede that 2011's interpretation of the Kite-Gon relationship isn't as good. Even so, it's marginal. Gon was not inspired by the villagers. They never. It never happened or mentioned. This is the hole that I was talking about.. How did Gon knew about the Hunters, How did he knew his father is alive? its the bedrock of the story. I do not want to make argue or anything but dude. I don't know everything you said about the 2nd paragraph you posted. I have no interest. wait maybe thats it. INTEREST. depending on the degree of interest we have, we may say "its okay" or rage the F out. like you, you might not have that level of interest I have about the story of this anime, so for you its fine enough if they will change something or not. as for me I do not like it. so maybe that covers it ok? no point to argue. Rewatch episode 1 of the 2011 anime and you'll see your post is invalid. Everyone on Whale Island including Mito and Gon DOES KNOW that Ging is Hunter and left Gon there. The relationship between Kite and Gon in the 2011 as of episode 76 isn't as "close" as the manga at that point but what you're saying is flat out WRONG |
@roiabrazaldo That's BEFORE Gon actually catches the fish.... |
| This episode was pretty good and i heard some new tracks that was awesome. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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| Whenever roiabrazaldo returns, Your timeline is assuming the anime followed the manga by verbatim but it hasn't as we've seen. Here's what I think actually happened in the anime timeline and it alone based on context clues and dialogue - Ging drops Gon off at Ging's hometown in Whale Island at the disdain of Mito due to Ging's irresponsibility - Kite saves Gon one day from Foxbears, unknowingly who he is or his purpose on the island - Gon's curiosity forces Mito tells Gon one day why he doesn't have a father* - Gon wants to know what's so great about being a Hunter by becoming one - Mito accepts only if he catches Lord of The Lake - Word spreads about the challenge - Gon catches the fish and takes the Exam - Finds Kite again and learns his side of the story including how he's Ging's disciple *Speculation I know but something is only a plot hole when a story is completed. You can never write off something until the ink is dried. People are complaining because events didn't exactly occur at that point like the manga. Been stated many times how Gon's curiosity is one of his most unique traits ex: Zepile Not liking the way an adaptation handles material is completely valid but saying it's wrong? Wrong in the fact you expected a copy/pasta translation From an Anime Only Watcher, "I think Madhouse made a conscious decision that since Kite's relevance in the story comes now, it made more sense to introduce him now rather than introduce him and then abandon him for 74 weeks, and hope the new audience remembered who he was. Now, you can certainly take issue with that choice - it's obviously a change from the manga. But I can tell you that for me at least, it worked perfectly fine. And it's also a tipoff than Madhouse knew pretty much from the beginning that the series was going to be covering the entire manga." ***http://www.lostinanime.com/2013/04/hunter-x-hunter-2011-76.html#comment-form |
HybridMBLApr 21, 2013 1:06 PM
| Yay the Chimera Ant Arc!!!! Great OP scenes of the CA. Gon finally meets Kaito. Oh so Kaito is Ging's student. OMG that ending song. It's the same song Gon and Killua sang ( HxH movie) |
| Da fuck?! That was quite possibly the worst episode of the show so far..... even without comparing it to the manga, there was SO MUCH FUCKING UNNECESSARY REPEAT FILLER BLAH BLAH BLAH. Like, stuff that we've heard from the ANIME already, why do they have to go and reiterate it? I'm not even going to get INTO comparing it to the manga. And jfc when are they going to change that OP song?! Why have they changed the ED song at least twice but not touched the OP one except for the lyrics? Who watches the ED anyway? I would have rather kept the same ED song if they would just CHANGE THE OPENING ARGH. |
| Even forgoing all the changes mad to the canon material, this was a pretty boring episode. |
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| I'm not understanding all the fuss from manga readers about Gon and Kite's first introduction not being shown properly in this episode. Was there some point in this episode, which I clearly didn't notice, that means Kite will never be able to remind Gon about their first meeting in more detail? If I hadn't read the thread this week, I'd have thought nothing was wrong. Aside from that, I hope the ED grows on me, definitely not as good as the earlier ones. |
| I agree this episode was bad prior to the normal HxH epic episodes. They didn't do the flashback right. But why is everybody saying this episode ruined the whole arc? You mean the relationship between Gon and Kaito is non-existent because they didn't follow the flashback exactly? Kaito will be with Gon and Killua for the following episodes and they will be attached to him. This episode didn't deny that Kaito saved Gon in the past. Although there may be some attachment lost between those two, there's still existing relationship between them and it will develop in the following episodes. So how is the whole arc got ruined again? About the episode, the opening sequence doesn't disappoint. Well, I'm kinda used to departure now so... I liked the previous ending more than this one but its not bad. The characters shown in the opening just reminded me how traumatic this arc had been for me. Traumatic in a good way. I'm excited to see the rest of the characters. |
| "Departure" is no longer compatible at all with this anime, I still enjoy the opening, but really,we should get an opening like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAflk4baHWE |
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| I think this is the first major change between this version and the manga. I'm kinda disappointed that they screwed up the Kite/Gon flashback. In the manga, Kite is basically the equivalent of Shanks from One Piece. I wonder if that'll have any effect on later events. |
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| it's just introduction to new arc... the epic scenes will come soon. |
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Luckyin said: is it just me who think Killua's voice changed? the voice it has before sounds better, i don't know maybe im wrong You just started watching this anime, right? It's the same voice than the last 75 episodes, different from the older series. |
Reme-Chan said: lets just face it We all have read the manga We all have watched the 1999 version We all Know whats truly happened so.. lets just look at the bright side Now we all are not regret because we read the manga XD I guess there will be more changes from the manga in the future XD Not everyone read the manga or watched the 1999 version and i don't think that will have any more changes because the meeting between gon and kite was, as far as i remember, the only change that might influence future happenings. |
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| Finally! It arrived to the point where the previous anime adaption left! This episode was good I guess, maybe not that great, but it still was good for me. Can't wait for next week to see what happens next! |
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kaluote said: It was an okay episode, 3 things I disliked about this episode: - Same OP song: Would it kill them to change the song for a new arc? -.- - Fillers - Unnecessary changes to actual storyline: I thought one of the main reasons they remade the series is to make the anime follow as closely to the manga as possible? It's like you stole those thoughts straight outta my brain, except I gave it a 2 :/ |
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| In the manga we hardly learned enough about Kite to the point when "something happened" to him, I didnt care at all. This is why I say the anime adaptation is far superior to the manga. Madhouse picking HxH from irrelevancy, having to do dirty work and doing justice to the series. Mikasa said: Gotta say, this "according to plan" repetition filler was as annoying as the flashback screw-up Basically this episode was 75% unnecessary filler, but the Kite rifle scene was awesome still.... "Wanna know about Ging/One Piece? " "Nah I'll find out on my own" Can't help but feel One Piece was inspired by HxH here. It cant be inspired when OP came out first.... |
| The gigantic problem of this episode is that it not only distorted the relationship Gon x Kite. Madhouse decharacterized Gon completely. Gon has never been a needy brat looking for the father. He is hunting the father because he heard from Kite that this is a big challenge. All this talk that the two had now was supposed to be the primary motivation of Gon, while Ging is only an ultimate goal. |
Forever_A said: The gigantic problem of this episode is that it not only distorted the relationship Gon x Kite. Madhouse decharacterized Gon completely. Gon has never been a needy brat looking for the father. He is hunting the father because he heard from Kite that this is a big challenge. All this talk that the two had now was supposed to be the primary motivation of Gon, while Ging is only an ultimate goal. For what it's worth I never once thought of Gon as a "needy brat" while watching this episode and I've not read the manga. He's just interested in what made his father abandon him. If he was "needy" he'd probably had used all those clues that he avoided throughout the series. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| I just realized in the opening the queen has a smiley face on her forehead. o.o |
| Chimeria Arc is awesome. I'm so excited. Sucks that the whole Kite thing is changed (wasn't even showed in the first few episodes iirc) but can't wait for more. The manga was so painful because of the art and the hiatuses but now it's animated in all its glory :). |
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| My alternate take for an opening on the chimera ant arc. |
bewareofhisokaApr 21, 2013 9:05 PM
| ^ To be fair, Resonance will sound good with just about anything and everything |
Mikasa said: "Wanna know about Ging/One Piece? " "Nah I'll find out on my own" Can't help but feel One Piece was inspired by HxH here. Definitely the first thing I thought when Kite asked that question. I was waiting for Gon to burst about something like "the journey is better than the destination" like Luffy did. The One Piece anime pulled it off more dramatically though. In here, it felt more trivial. Not that it was a bad thing. |
| People love source and that love is technically sound. It's important not to be dismissive - changes to 'small' details are magnified for some viewers. Usually the most devoted and invested. Some people know this series back to front, it's easy to say 'it's a tiny change stop freaking out' when you're just a casual watcher. Ship dynamics in particular are really important. At times people are over-dramatic about it but that corrects itself silently when they calm down. Although I'm sure MH intends to follow close to source, so hopefully this sort of diversion wouldn't occur too often. FYI I don't know anything about this arc beyond vague spoilers but source/adaption is debated across many fandoms and I feel bad for those of you who were disappointed. @Dangerr drew an analogy with HBO's GOT adaption a few pages back. I agree it's a fantastic adaption, especially the first season. Comment on the episode: slightly slow with the information dispensation... all I got out of it was 1. Ging is hard to find; 2. Ging is a control freak; 3. A pregnant (?) ant is eating fish in a cave somewhere and thankfully we did not have to see how she got that way. Visually very beautiful though, looking forward to next week. |
| Wow really looking forward to this arc. Finally passed the 1999 version :D Little dissapointed that they keep reusing the same (Okay slight changes, but not much) Op song though. You'd think each arc deserved it's own op. Song is getting kinda boring, hearing it for 76 episodes. |
RydakoApr 21, 2013 11:31 PM
| Okay chapter. Kite's relationship with Gon has been differentiated and to be honest, I don't know why Madhouse did that. There was no real point of differentiating from the manga here. Well, if they can pull whatever they're trying off, hats off to them. If not, then they might just have ruined the arc. kcaco said: How Togashi works is that he's a auteur storyteller who's interested in a lot of things and is not afraid to try different genre within the boundaries of shounen. One look at level E and the last few volumes of YYH can show you the unconventional shift of genre. Chimera ant arc is his apocalyptic horror story so the tone will be different. (While Yorknew is his noir story, Greed Island is his video game story...etc. Level E has very similar structure too...you switch from horror, RPG adventure, noir, detective, SF ..etc effortlessly) Well, he certainly is interested in a lot of things. He's interested in so much stuff, he takes hiatuses from the manga just to play Dragon Quest (?). |
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| cool new opening animation. some of the chimera designs look nice. I fucking dont like how they changed the kite x gon backstory though. The extended beginning was alright, they really dramatized the introduction of kite, but then they introduced chimera ants right then and there so I thought the pacing would be quicker but no then they added the Ging x Kite backstory outta nowhere and of course had to introduce gons and kites backstory that they skipped in the beginning. which is where they changed things. i also dont remember Kite getting a gun as a weapon in the manga. also, the last part of the ep where it showed the queen had amazing animation! i think they blended in a little CGI either ways it looked good. well, looks like we might see some filler for once? ofc not full filler eps but they changed a little bit here. either ways im excited to see some of these ants drawn out in animation. |
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dextronaut said: i also dont remember Kite getting a gun as a weapon in the manga. |
Forever_A said: dextronaut said: i also dont remember Kite getting a gun as a weapon in the manga. X_X aha. damn. thanks. I was meaning on checking back on that. Ya know I kinda had a feeling I mightve been wrong about that one, its been awhile Im not good with small details sometimes when im "low" :/ |
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| Judging from the opening,it looks like they made neferpitou a full on girl. |
| It's like Killua and Johness again with the amount of rage this episodes get. Rage from fans who don't even understand Gon until the CA arc went to that territory to begin with. Welp, gotta go back from my backlog then. Gay space angels and their epic trolling here I come! |
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| Don't mean any disrespect but Madhouse really fucked up this eps, this is why they shouldn't have left out Kaito's scene from the beginning (eps 1).. Aside from the awkward reunion between Gon-Kaito, WTF Killua got bitten by an ant lol.. For those haven't read the manga yet, I really recommend you to read it so at least you can understand a bit what had been wrong with this episode.. Well, let's hope the future eps will be better.. |
Claude_KennyApr 22, 2013 11:58 AM
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