| It doesn't have a weak beginning imo. It just takes a while to get to know all the characters which is what the show is really about. |
| To me it started getting funnier around episode 14, I think the second half of the series 100+ was funniest to me, though it's always pretty funny. So I say stick with it. |
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IcecreamManwich said: you might be the first person i have ever met who thinks thisIt doesn't have a weak beginning imo. It just takes a while to get to know all the characters which is what the show is really about. Gintama's start especially the first 20 episodes do absolutely no justice to the show. It wasnt that we were not getting used to the characters its that the creator probably didnt realize he literally created a world where he can do whatever the fuck he wants, like he has no continuity or anything holding him back and if he wants to make an episode about a zombie apacolypse, or parody the new nintendo system he can. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Well ... Gintama is the only anime to have actually made me literally Laugh Out Loud ... I mean lol is an overused expression but there were moments in Gintama where I actually was laughing so hard my gut hurt. The series is really the only long running shounen series I consider to actually be good from a critical standpoint, I mean I can tolerate One Piece however I don't really think it is done extremely well however Gintama is actually extremely original. (The other 2 of the big 3, Bleach and Naruto I actually can't stand, and haven't seen Detective Conan which I might have some respect for though having not seen it can't say for sure) |
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| Oh might i mention another reason gintama ha such a weak start is also it not pulling off either the dramedy or torlling that gintama is so good at I think the first real drama like moment was the still memorable memory loss arc around the early 30's and i dont know where trolling starts |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: IcecreamManwich said: you might be the first person i have ever met who thinks thisIt doesn't have a weak beginning imo. It just takes a while to get to know all the characters which is what the show is really about. Gintama's start especially the first 20 episodes do absolutely no justice to the show. It wasnt that we were not getting used to the characters its that the creator probably didnt realize he literally created a world where he can do whatever the fuck he wants, like he has no continuity or anything holding him back and if he wants to make an episode about a zombie apacolypse, or parody the new nintendo system he can. Eh, I disagree. Some of the episodes like the mine field one and Kagura's first episode were freaking hilarious to me and I never outright hated a episode or felt I got a bad impression of the series. I agree that it does indeed get better as it goes along and Sorachi starts, well, being innovative though. |
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| ^InsaneSoldier speaks the truth! DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: IcecreamManwich said: you might be the first person i have ever met who thinks thisIt doesn't have a weak beginning imo. It just takes a while to get to know all the characters which is what the show is really about. Gintama's start especially the first 20 episodes do absolutely no justice to the show. It wasnt that we were not getting used to the characters its that the creator probably didnt realize he literally created a world where he can do whatever the fuck he wants, like he has no continuity or anything holding him back and if he wants to make an episode about a zombie apacolypse, or parody the new nintendo system he can. I disagree. Gintama's "serious arcs" are far and few between, only appearing every 20 or 30 episodes. Gintama is really about the amazing cast and just having crazy adventures, which the anime did brilliantly from the very start. Does it get better as it goes along? Absolutely, but it by no means had a weak beginning. I loved getting to know all the characters and so does a lot of people, that's why they (should) stick with it. And why would you want the show to "troll" you so early in the series? That would just turn more people off from watching it -_- |
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insan3soldiern said: I agree completely with this.DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: IcecreamManwich said: you might be the first person i have ever met who thinks thisIt doesn't have a weak beginning imo. It just takes a while to get to know all the characters which is what the show is really about. Gintama's start especially the first 20 episodes do absolutely no justice to the show. It wasnt that we were not getting used to the characters its that the creator probably didnt realize he literally created a world where he can do whatever the fuck he wants, like he has no continuity or anything holding him back and if he wants to make an episode about a zombie apacolypse, or parody the new nintendo system he can. Eh, I disagree. Some of the episodes like the mine field one and Kagura's first episode were freaking hilarious to me and I never outright hated a episode or felt I got a bad impression of the series. I agree that it does indeed get better as it goes along and Sorachi starts, well, being innovative though. |
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| I'd say so. I wasn't a huge fan of the earlier episodes myself. It gradually improves over the course of the series. I started liking it much more around episode 50. |
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insan3soldiern said: Oh no teh mine episode and the red ghost episode were great but they were pretty much the only 2 episodes i found funny in the first 20 episodes, the 20's faired better and the 30's i remember there being like 1 off episodeDJIzzyIzzyHitler said: IcecreamManwich said: you might be the first person i have ever met who thinks thisIt doesn't have a weak beginning imo. It just takes a while to get to know all the characters which is what the show is really about. Gintama's start especially the first 20 episodes do absolutely no justice to the show. It wasnt that we were not getting used to the characters its that the creator probably didnt realize he literally created a world where he can do whatever the fuck he wants, like he has no continuity or anything holding him back and if he wants to make an episode about a zombie apacolypse, or parody the new nintendo system he can. Eh, I disagree. Some of the episodes like the mine field one and Kagura's first episode were freaking hilarious to me and I never outright hated a episode or felt I got a bad impression of the series. I agree that it does indeed get better as it goes along and Sorachi starts, well, being innovative though. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I couldn't even bring myself to complete the first episode. It's so cheesy I simply can't force myself through it. If it is going to get better it needs to get 1000x better for me to even raise the corner of my mouth. soge_king999 said: Holy shit, do you hear what you're saying? Having to sit through 50 episodes of torture before a show gets better?I'd say so. I wasn't a huge fan of the earlier episodes myself. It gradually improves over the course of the series. I started liking it much more around episode 50. |
AeonsLegend said: The first two episodes were boring, seeing as they were basically a flashback. It does get better, I also dropped it after the first episode the first time I watched it.I couldn't even bring myself to complete the first episode. It's so cheesy I simply can't force myself through it. If it is going to get better it needs to get 1000x better for me to even raise the corner of my mouth. soge_king999 said: Holy shit, do you hear what you're saying? Having to sit through 50 episodes of torture before a show gets better?I'd say so. I wasn't a huge fan of the earlier episodes myself. It gradually improves over the course of the series. I started liking it much more around episode 50. And you don't have to sit through 50 episodes for it get better, the comedy improves as the show goes on and around 50 is the first serious arc. The show is mostly comedy with some serious bloody arcs peppered in. Though since it's mostly a comedy, you don't get a whole bunch of plot movement, but the comedy makes up for it. |
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JavierR said: Yeah though there are some funny episodes in the beginning, though most of it is about introducing the characters.It's not like the show is terrible for the first 50 episodes, it's just not as funny. (imo) |
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AeonsLegend said: I couldn't even bring myself to complete the first episode. It's so cheesy I simply can't force myself through it. If it is going to get better it needs to get 1000x better for me to even raise the corner of my mouth. soge_king999 said: Holy shit, do you hear what you're saying? Having to sit through 50 episodes of torture before a show gets better?I'd say so. I wasn't a huge fan of the earlier episodes myself. It gradually improves over the course of the series. I started liking it much more around episode 50. I like how you completely ignore the posts that say that the early episodes aren't that bad. I'll say that I think you are selling the show short dropping it on one episode. |
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shintai88 said: ill second this, this was when i started enjoying it, which was episode 18 if im not mistakenIcecreamManwich said: It doesn't have a weak beginning imo. It just takes a while to get to know all the characters which is what the show is really about. Got funny around the Pantie theif episode. Though i remember katsura and sougo consistently being enjoyable to watch throughout the whole show even the slow start IcecreamManwich said: I said dramedy not drama, The serious arcs are just one part of the serious side of gintama, A large majority of the arcs including the mini ones have some seriousness in there mainly at the end, even quite a few singular episodes lead to that. And dude, if we watched the same show then you should know about how amazing gintama's trolling was, they lead to the funniest moments in the entire show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0UkQurA5gQ I remember the show didnt start showing anything serious until the memory loss arc which i thought was legitimately pretty damn good Also i just have to mention, i dont get how people only started liking it after around 50 episodes, it got great way prior to that, Like were there even any off episodes past that dream catcher ep? |
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Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
edwd2 said: AeonsLegend said: I couldn't even bring myself to complete the first episode. It's so cheesy I simply can't force myself through it. If it is going to get better it needs to get 1000x better for me to even raise the corner of my mouth. Holy shit, do you hear what you're saying? Having to sit through 50 episodes of torture before a show gets better? Gotta love the Gintama forums, most people here are nice. Please speak politely :-) Indeed |
| It's a show that hasl the first series and all of its sequels in the Top10. I am no expert but there has to be a reason for that. And yes I know that those that didnt like the first series wouldnt continue with the next one but come on. |
| What's so good about Gintama that gives it such a high rating? I tried watching it but in the first few episodes I found it pretty boring... So I was wondering if it picks up later on, even though it has over 200 episodes? |
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| Find the Gintama forum then, this question has been asked at least 20 times. The first two episodes are unfunny filler, yes is gets better. |
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| The anime is shit until the episode 20, It's start t turn good from 20-50 And from there reflects his spot, also this was asked too many times. |
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| http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=639583 I recently replied here. pralan said: The anime is shit until the episode 20 It's start t turn good from 20-50 And from there reflects his spot Personally where I thought to myself "i'm going to love this!" was the hot pot episode (Episode #25). :') |
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pralan said: The anime is shit until the episode 20, It's start t turn good from 20-50 And from there reflects his spot, also this was asked too many times. parfaited said: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=639583 I recently replied here. pralan said: The anime is shit until the episode 20 It's start t turn good from 20-50 And from there reflects his spot Personally where I thought to myself "i'm going to love this!" was the hot pot episode (Episode #25). :') at that point you might as well watch lotgh since fans of that show have the same exact argument. that it only gets good at episode 20. not to mention that i dont see the point of watching things like gintama or lotgh since ya it gets good but you have to watch almost 2 full 13 episode series or 1 24-26 episode anime before that happens. i mean i could watch an anime like steins; gate that show gets good a whole lot quicker than gintama. i mean there are so many great anime out there that you dont need to suffer through 20 something episodes in order to enjoy. |
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mattbenz99 said: at that point you might as well watch lotgh since fans of that show have the same exact argument. that it only gets good at episode 20. not to mention that i dont see the point of watching things like gintama or lotgh since ya it gets good but you have to watch almost 2 full 13 episode series or 1 24-26 episode anime before that happens. i mean i could watch an anime like steins; gate that show gets good a whole lot quicker than gintama. i mean there are so many great anime out there that you dont need to suffer through 20 something episodes in order to enjoy. thats odd, most LOGH fans ive talked have the opinion that it gets awesome around ep 10 (kinda like Steins Gate) an i agree with that also since you liked Clannad then you shoundt have any problem with slow paced anime |
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silversaint said: mattbenz99 said: at that point you might as well watch lotgh since fans of that show have the same exact argument. that it only gets good at episode 20. not to mention that i dont see the point of watching things like gintama or lotgh since ya it gets good but you have to watch almost 2 full 13 episode series or 1 24-26 episode anime before that happens. i mean i could watch an anime like steins; gate that show gets good a whole lot quicker than gintama. i mean there are so many great anime out there that you dont need to suffer through 20 something episodes in order to enjoy. thats odd, most LOGH fans ive talked have the opinion that it gets awesome around ep 10 (kinda like Steins Gate) an i agree with that also since you liked Clannad then you shoundt have any problem with slow paced anime oh i heard 20 episode with logh but i could be wrong. to be honest i started liking clannad at episode 1 but that is just my opinion. to be honest i dont really mind shonen or long running shows i just only watch shows with 100+ episodes dubbed because my attention span gives up after reading/watching about 60 episode especially episodes that are slow those just are a pain to watch subbed. keep in mind this is all my opinion. so i just feel that show with a really long slow beginnings arent worth watching since there are shorter shows out there that end before you reach the good part. |
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mattbenz99 said: at that point you might as well watch lotgh since fans of that show have the same exact argument. that it only gets good at episode 20. not to mention that i dont see the point of watching things like gintama or lotgh since ya it gets good but you have to watch almost 2 full 13 episode series or 1 24-26 episode anime before that happens. i mean i could watch an anime like steins; gate that show gets good a whole lot quicker than gintama. i mean there are so many great anime out there that you dont need to suffer through 20 something episodes in order to enjoy. I don't know if you're talking to me or pralan but I can tell you that I certainly did not "suffer" through 20 something episodes in order to enjoy it. It was a show that I watched sporadically probably because I wasn't sure what it was trying to accomplish. Episode 25 was pointed out because it hit me then that that's how these characters are going to behave and it was definitely my cup of tea. I've had LoGH on-hold. My on-hold list is not some kind of weird extension of my dropped list. Let's just say that if LoGH was dropped it would have found its way there already. Well i've suffered through much shorter series and still completed them, it's cool how we all have our ways of watching things. |
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parfaited said: mattbenz99 said: at that point you might as well watch lotgh since fans of that show have the same exact argument. that it only gets good at episode 20. not to mention that i dont see the point of watching things like gintama or lotgh since ya it gets good but you have to watch almost 2 full 13 episode series or 1 24-26 episode anime before that happens. i mean i could watch an anime like steins; gate that show gets good a whole lot quicker than gintama. i mean there are so many great anime out there that you dont need to suffer through 20 something episodes in order to enjoy. I don't know if you're talking to me or pralan but I can tell you that I certainly did not "suffer" through 20 something episodes in order to enjoy it. It was a show that I watched sporadically probably because I wasn't sure what it was trying to accomplish. Episode 25 was pointed out because it hit me then that that's how these characters are going to behave and it was definitely my cup of tea. I've had LoGH on-hold. My on-hold list is not some kind of weird extension of my dropped list. Let's just say that if LoGH was dropped it would have found its way there already. i didnt even look at your list to be honest. i just compared it to logh because the situations sound really similar between the 2. either way with all the hype around this show i have seen over the past couple of months i am probably just never going to pick it up because i will always in my head no matter how good it is compare it to what people are saying about it (that it is the greatest thing ever) and i will just feel like no it isnt. my favorite anime is clannad and i feel that it has a similar problem as gintama. they are both just over hyped and that often hurts people's enjoyment of the show. that is why when asked about it i say it is good but i dont go over the top and be like "THIS IS THE GREATEST THING EVER WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" no because that just causes people to have an epic build up in their mind and that just leads them to disappointment. |
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| Wow this topic was locked for a second. I was about to start shouting that MAL never let's people discuss anything without locking or deleting posts. mattbenz99 said: i didnt even look at your list to be honest. i just compared it to logh because the situations sound really similar between the 2. either way with all the hype around this show i have seen over the past couple of months i am probably just never going to pick it up because i will always in my head no matter how good it is compare it to what people are saying about it (that it is the greatest thing ever) and i will just feel like no it isnt. my favorite anime is clannad and i feel that it has a similar problem as gintama. they are both just over hyped and that often hurts people's enjoyment of the show. that is why when asked about it i say it is good but i dont go over the top and be like "THIS IS THE GREATEST THING EVER WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" no because that just causes people to have an epic build up in their mind and that just leads them to disappointment. Yeah I get what you're saying about how overhype can kill the enjoyment of a series. You go in there expecting all kinds of wonderful things and it's easy to feel really disappointed. That was exactly what I felt when I watched Clannad. Everywhere I went and someone was asking what sad anime to watch, Clannad was always mentioned over and over again. So I watched it (the first part not After Story- After Story was a completely different experience. :o) and I felt like it was anti-climactic. After it was recommended so much I felt quite dissapointed with it. |
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parfaited said: Wow this topic was locked for a second. I was about to start shouting that MAL never let's people discuss anything without locking or deleting posts. mattbenz99 said: i didnt even look at your list to be honest. i just compared it to logh because the situations sound really similar between the 2. either way with all the hype around this show i have seen over the past couple of months i am probably just never going to pick it up because i will always in my head no matter how good it is compare it to what people are saying about it (that it is the greatest thing ever) and i will just feel like no it isnt. my favorite anime is clannad and i feel that it has a similar problem as gintama. they are both just over hyped and that often hurts people's enjoyment of the show. that is why when asked about it i say it is good but i dont go over the top and be like "THIS IS THE GREATEST THING EVER WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" no because that just causes people to have an epic build up in their mind and that just leads them to disappointment. Yeah I get what you're saying about how overhype can kill the enjoyment of a series. You go in there expecting all kinds of wonderful things and it's easy to feel really disappointed. That was exactly what I felt when I watched Clannad. Everywhere I went and someone was asking what sad anime to watch, Clannad was always mentioned over and over again. So I watched it (the first part not After Story- After Story was a completely different experience. :o) and I felt like it was anti-climactic. After it was recommended so much I felt quite dissapointed with it. agreed that is why i am probably not going to be watching gintama for quite a while. until my expectations drop |
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| ^ I think that's a personal thing. For me Gintama was everything I expected(and I expected a LOT because its top 5 on MAL) and more. |
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mattbenz99 said: agreed that is why i am probably not going to be watching gintama for quite a while. until my expectations drop Don't force yourself! PRxStarChild said: I suggest u skip to episode 20 however see episode 4,7,8,10,16 because it introduces the characters that are going to be the running gag of the anime. the Anime is funny with alot of adult jokes and parodys. Don't worry that its 200 episodes because most of the episode can be skipped their is only about 40 episodes that give a back story / true plot in the show. Watch Episode 20, 38 and arc 121-123 see if u enjoy the anime. However this anime is about the jokes not the story. Interesting, i've never seen anyone recommending that arc (Monkey Hunter) before. Skipping episodes for any anime weirds me out. I can only truly skip recaps. |
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