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| ...wow that was the best endding i have seen. Very sad. |
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wolfsrainXD said: LOL Darude xD perhaps lulu rly is alive... like all u guys said he's got the code from charles Lulu is alive if you "read in between the lines" The only reason they didn't explicitly state it is because they want to leave the audience to think about it, making the ending much more melodramatic. If you think about it HARD, you can even find at least 5 to 6 hints that Lulu is not dead. It's like they purposely put those hints for suppositions.... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
wakka9ca said: Mizuki_Moe said: I don't think the ending could have been any better!! superb!! Honestly, how else could it have ended so as to keep with the original moral and backdrop of the story? Somiboo said: Okay Darude, you're right. I really hadn't paid much attention at that one moment when it was important,..I think my tears were clouding my vision..but for sure..Todou realized the truth at that point in time. I think Kaguya did at exactly that moment too. Darude said: Didn't Kallen know about Lelouchs' real plan when "Zero" Suzaku appeared, It looked like she found out by that reaction and Todou seemed to have figured something out too.. I think you are both right. Kallen figured it out too. I can just imagine that as soon as she saw Zero, she remembered those words uttered by Suzaku and she just knew. Todou figured it out as well. When you look at it, everyone who really followed Zero even knowing that there was a part of him that they saw as dark, knew what he had done. Kallen, Todo, Kaguya, and Xingke are such people. As for those from the Science department and Sayoko knew. I think they knew as well. Its hard to tell if they knew exactly from the moment Lulu had them leave the ship, or after..but they know. The one person who I wish could have known the truth is Ohgi. But as great a guy he is, he never really could understand the true Zero. BUT don't forget how the WHOLE world remembered Lelouch as the evil ruler. That's retribution for him. Suzaku is now forced to wear this mask and live as Zero. That's retribution for him too. Actually, most of the Black Knights members that were close to Zero clearly knew what happened. They could have guessed it. Kallen clearly knew. Toudou knew. Cornelia probably knew. Anyone intelligent would have guessed it.... I suspect that Ohgi may even realize it (especially with the appearance of the new Zero...) What you said about Suzako is more than likely true as well. Both he and Lulu are paying. Had he perhaps taken off the mask at the moment he killed Lulu, it would perhaps have been different, but now he must live as Zero. Mizuki was right too, in my opinion...also you too. Infact you both said the same thing. Those who really knew Zero got it. It's not really about being close to him though. He and Xingke were not close, nor was he and Todou. But both of them saw the good and bad in Zero. So they knew. Its like what CC said to Kagura, she saw the faces of Lulu and still accepted him. Poor Ohgi. I'm not so sure that he caught on to it right along though. |
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| I was a bit worried at times by the direction R2 had been heading, but overall I am more than happy with the ending. I thought it was original and really did tie up all the loose ends. I could probably go on with great things to say about this ending, but I'll leave it at just a comment about the wagon scene. Glad to see a happy ending (in a roundabout way) as opposed to the Death Note ending. :) |
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| A really great ending, truly an amazing series. |
TheMoonShinigamiSep 28, 2008 4:34 PM
| Well I liked how it ended. I hate how the left the possiblity of lulu being alive because we never see the face of the driver for cc... God I hate when these things happen.. |
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wolfsrainXD said: LOL Darude xD perhaps lulu rly is alive... like all u guys said he's got the code from charles He couldn't have gotten the code from Charles, Charles had to have given up the code. He never did that. Also, when you have immortality, the geass leaves the eyes, like it did when Charles got his and V.V didn't have either. And just like when C.C lost her geass upon getting immortality. The Geass was still in Lelouch's eyes after Charles died. Also, the immortality mark on C.C's head was no longer there at the end of episode 25. |
wolfsrainXD said: wakka9ca said: wolfsrainXD said: LOL Darude xD perhaps lulu rly is alive... like all u guys said he's got the code from charles Lulu is alive if you "read in between the lines" The only reason they didn't explicitly state it is because they want to leave the audience to think about it, making the ending much more melodramatic. If you think about it HARD, you can even find at least 5 to 6 hints that Lulu is not dead. It's like they purposely put those hints for suppositions.... 5-6... the only hints i've got are: more? you basically said the two major ones that is composed of many hints.... You can basically find more if you look even harder. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
Mizuki_Moe said: wolfsrainXD said: LOL Darude xD perhaps lulu rly is alive... like all u guys said he's got the code from charles He couldn't have gotten the code from Charles, Charles had to have given up the code. He never did that. Also, when you have immortality, the geass leaves the eyes, like it did when Charles got his and V.V didn't have either. And just like when C.C lost her geass upon getting immortality. The Geass was still in Lelouch's eyes after Charles died. Also, the immortality mark on C.C's head was no longer there at the end of episode 25. But notice that his geass got stronger and was no longer an "ordinary" geass. He has already acquired the TRUE power of the king. CC lost the mark when she "lost" her memories.... it doesn't prove Lelouch is dead... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
wakka9ca said: you basically said the two major ones that is composed of many hints.... -he's got the code = when Nunally touch it and got the "contractor effect" You can basically find more if you look even harder. This is a very good and important one to note. The contractor effect when Nunally saw his memories. |
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| lol at 15 page topic, and at the first page with people trolling. edit: spoiler tags due to umm.... long writing of stuff? |
TsundereRicSep 28, 2008 4:49 PM
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| T_T Lelouch is best character ever! As soon as I saw Zero dodging machine gun fire, I knew who it was. I don't care about conspiracy theories & I don't care about the possibility of something afterwards. I'm satisfied. Goro, you're the man! |
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| Damm, I would like to believe that Lulu is alive, but it's hard :( Damm :@ I was always afraid of this. How about a poll - "Is Lelouch still alive, what do you think?" |
| Epic last words from Lelouch! Whether or not, they were actually his last. |
| one word to describe the ending: Epic one word to describe Code Geass: Epic one word to describe Lelouch: ... words cant do him justice. |
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djinn_690 said: one word to describe the ending: Epic one word to describe Code Geass: Epic one word to describe Lelouch: ... words cant do him justice. qft. |
wakka9ca said: like the main character in the new testament. And just as you probably know, that main character from the new testament ressurected. lol. by the "main character" you mean....jesus? 0_0 |
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wakka9ca said: Mizuki_Moe said: wolfsrainXD said: LOL Darude xD perhaps lulu rly is alive... like all u guys said he's got the code from charles He couldn't have gotten the code from Charles, Charles had to have given up the code. He never did that. Also, when you have immortality, the geass leaves the eyes, like it did when Charles got his and V.V didn't have either. And just like when C.C lost her geass upon getting immortality. The Geass was still in Lelouch's eyes after Charles died. Also, the immortality mark on C.C's head was no longer there at the end of episode 25. But notice that his geass got stronger and was no longer an "ordinary" geass. He has already acquired the TRUE power of the king. CC lost the mark when she "lost" her memories.... it doesn't prove Lelouch is dead... Ehm...I am saying that he is ALIVE. CC did not lose her mark when she lost her memories, you can still see it. The only time we saw it fading was when she was in the process of giving up the code. Look at the episodes that follow, you still see the mark under her bangs. Also, having the Geass grow stonger like that does not mean immortality. Just like what happened to Mao. Lelouch did not gain immorality at that point. |
crowslayer91 said: ditto..even if it was a horrible plot..id be there to support it 100% lol. no cg is like losing a piece of dedication i set forth every sunday rofl.yaHzee said: do want :xSince lelouch most likely is alive, and if they do make a ton of money, it wouldn't be surprising if Sunrise made a 3rd season based on something else where lelouch comes back and surprises the crap outta everyone. lol. Nothing really to look forward to next week other than football..since d.grayman is done next week...and 00 s2 wont start till the 5th. |
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Richard_Omega said: This is soooo true.. about the sunrise part. |
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| Is there a club yet for "I had the most inappropriate reaction when they panned over the gravestone of Kurrarugi Suzaku" ...because I cheered. Admittedly he became likeable again because now he's like screwed for life and angst is yummy. Lulu was the same but he kind of got the get out of jail card while Suzaku has to "live on." I also laughed at the whole parade thing. - Beautiful ending wraparound full circle Kallen is the ultimate girlfriend for him to the end! - Not only does Lulu have the most ridiculous hat and extravagant fashion sense, but he's got the decorating tactics of Jabba the Hut. Ohhh man. That episode was really, shockingly, good! Now I wish they hadn't screwed around with the Charles/Marienne plot and could've actually devoted themselves to this from the start of the second season...because it's pretty clear the end ties excellently to the first season. It's so awesomely sad though that you can sort of look back on the entire thing thinking it's like the autobiography of the tyrant...where all they saw was the tyranny at the end. Beautiful sad. The only moment of dumb - aside from that pink-haired loli - was Nunally's sudden understanding. That's never fun. It would've helped her more to go on hating Lulu. |
| It wasn't anything less than epic in my opinion We got what we wanted, which was entertainment. Just as the first season, it always managed to amuse and make my Sundays a little better. I don't know what I'll do without it :) |
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| Where do you guys see a third season? To me, the ending was pretty clear-cut and wasn't open-ended at all. Did I miss something? |
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| Ugh, I want to keep up with this conversation, but there's like 2 new pages every 5 minutes. And lol at the people who don't even read one page before posting. Far too many "is Lelouche really dead/alive" or "I'm sad he died" posts after it's been explained to death that HE'S (most likely) ALIVE. Well, I'll keep tabs on this topic, but it won't keep me from watching Oban Star-Racers (surprisingly good and a nice break from CG epicness). |
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| Ending was pretty good, good enough to bump up my score. |
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Sheepdude said: Where do you guys see a third season? To me, the ending was pretty clear-cut and wasn't open-ended at all. Did I miss something? Open-ended in the fact that you don't know if Lulu died or not. There have been many posts debating this, hence the fact that it is open-ended. A choose-your-own-adventure ending (very smart on Sunrise's part, imo, as you pick the one you like--happy or sad). Orange-kun on an orange farm = WIN. Lulu's character is now on par with Shakespearean tragic heroes, imho, especially the way he "died." (Lol, can't you imagine Lulu saying "Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow..." or "...take arms against a sea of troubles,/ And by opposing end them?" I can.) |
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| Lol it's so funny how those people pissed and hate this show. That only concludes that human's satisfaction has no limitations, we always strive for more and for better. Still I gave this anime a 10/10 Lelouch as the best character ever. I can't wait for an OVA or something |
| Loved the ending, fit perfectly. Pure win. |
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| Personally I'm satisfied. Sometimes the plot twists were ridiculous, but then again, through and through, the whole notion of Zero had this over-the-tp melodramatic flair, so I feel it's rather fitting. I liked the ending personally. I bawwed for about the last 10 mins while everything got wrapped up. When C.C. was talking on the wagon and addressing Lelouch, I thought of the fact that he may already be dead and she's either talking to herself or talking to him through C or something, but, I thought he might be driving the cart too. I didn't make the rest of those connections though, but not that I see them they make perfect sense. :3 10/10 for me for being so enjoyable. |
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| oh god... I jumped for joy when suzaku then started to cry (like a baby!) when lelouch then at the END OMFG I almost destroyed my computer when that just did it for me and I started to go crazy.... I never cried that much over a character "death" I love Code Geass and R2 but right now if there's an R3 I will seriously go insane right here and now |
| It's ok to have R3 than nothing. besides I can't seem to find any anime that is on par with Death Note or Code Geass |
| TT___________________________TT LULUUUUUUU~ NUUUUU~ BAD END BAD END BAD END *sniff* I seriously cried many tears upon watching the end. ;_; I've never cried so much before for a character's death. Why'd you do it 'Zaku?! I was hoping for a SuzaLulu end where 'Zaku whisks Lulu off his feet and the two live happily together!!! Bah, I'm too distressed to say anything really important. >_< Well, a befitting end I guess. I just hate the thought of Lulu dying though. D: *Die hard Lulu fan* None of the stuff really surprised me. 'Zaku dying such an unimpressive death? Please. Overall, I understand the ending but I didn't like it. :( I seriously think Lulu's alive though. But that's just because it's my wishes. ;D He could be the guy who was driving the horses! |
KikuriSep 28, 2008 5:59 PM
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| Decent ending, I figured Lelouch would "die" in some fashion. I didn't see Zaku becoming the next Zero, but no complaints with that. It wouldn't surprise me if he survived for a 3rd season, but entertaining show 8/10 Orange-kun on an orange farm, LMAO that was a good one. |
| great ending.... |
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| I wanna give this an 11/10 :/ One of THE most satisfying ends of an anime I have seen. |
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| CC and Lulu is putting some literal interpretation in "Living happily ever after" I'm not sure about the happily part, but everafter, yeah. CC:"So you're going to make a move on me? How bold, boy." LL:"Shut up, witch." Let these be the words that mark LLxCC fans together. |
| Just watched it a 3rd time(not to mention how many times I watched the second part), Eclipse version this time and it helped me understand it much better. Although while on other parts where Eclipse made it sound horrible gg made me understand it better. Liked how Kallen caught on, but what about the rest of them? They all knew the real Zero was Lelouche, so I wonder if they cought on/were told. Todou looked like he was cookin something but not quite there yet... Pure awesome ending to a great season. |
| I loved the ending. And yeah, Lelouch is definitely dead. I was so sad he died, though it was predictable. p.p One confusing thing is, when they showed all those scenes while Nunally was touching lulu's hand, did she see them al? O.o But poor Black Knights, at the very end right before Lelouch died they realized it was planned from the start. They must have felt awful. |
(Almost) 13 years on MAL! ()__() (='.'=) (")_(") |
| Loved it. Now it's gonna haunt my dreams for a few days |
| Fail. |
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| Light's death, no offense is a bit coward, though I'm a fan of him. Lelouch's death is the best among all characters ever |
Monkey_D_Luffy said: Fail. But Light died and that's it. He fails. Lelouch died. But ressurected as immortal. He wins. (if you don't believe me read "is RR dead" thread) Death Note was epic fail for me. I can blame this on the editor since the real story should have ended when L died. Code Geass is no better, at least 30% of the second season was fail but the remaining 70% redeemed everything. |
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| It was like Death Note cross Gundam SEED through and through to the end... A great ending (which I thought it was ) can't erase the faults of the show. Honestly, there were a lot of unnecessary episodes and plot twists. The sequel could've fit into a 13 episode package, but that would upset a lot of fans. Honestly this season hit it's peak with It should've worked an ending with that instead of doing the expected thing and have [mini rant] I just can't understand these characters that choose to be the object of hate... it's stupid and emo... it's an overdone plot device that needs to be abolished[/mini rant] that being said, the finale did redeem a degrading series. Compared to other animes, Code Geass R2 is still quite good, well above average, but in terms of Code Geass standard, it disappointed. My opinion for the Code Geass franchise on the whole is the same as Death Note... It's very good... but very overrated. Now SUNRISE, do us a favor and DONT pull a SEED Destiny on us and bring back characters that should stay dead. last little byte: I wonder how ratings would've been if they called this show "Gundam GEASS" instead? =P |
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