| Well, I don't really know that much about Japanese culture. But watching anime, and some movies[just 2 I think] I just get the Idea of being the most rude country D: The one that gave me most of this Idea its the movie [All About Lily Chou-Chou] which is way rude, and just about the age of 14 D: For example[in the same movie]: Making other boys get in the swamp, jerk off, prostitution, the leader and I do what the fck I want, and stuff like that... And i mean, in some animes are that way too, but in some others they are really cute with each other, in a 70-40 %. So, does anyone know? Are they rude? |
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| Yes, Japan is the meanest nation ever. I mean, just look at the Rape of Nanking. So mean. |
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TheWestExit said: Yes, Japan is the meanest nation ever. I mean, just look at the Rape of Nanking. So mean. SERIOUSLY. |
| Woah... o_o And what about the "this time society"? I want to know more about it. But hey, those type of information are also welcome, man, thanks, now something to read XD |
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Plate said: TheWestExit said: Yes, Japan is the meanest nation ever. I mean, just look at the Rape of Nanking. So mean. SERIOUSLY. lol |
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| I think you'll be hard pressed to find any country that hasn't committed atrocities during war. The U.S. is no exception. But as for calling the Japanese rude, having lived there for two years, I can relate to that. But it's very subtle, and it's never open rudeness - it's all hidden behind a rather two-faced concept in Japanese culture called honne to tatemae, which roughly translates as "true sound" and "standing in front", and is basically "what you're really thinking" and "what you say to others". Personally I can't stand it, but I guess that's the nature of differing cultures... |
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| Nice but cold if you're on the outside. Mean and brutally honest if you're on the inside. |
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humhorse said: I think you'll be hard pressed to find any country that hasn't committed atrocities during war. The U.S. is no exception. No shit, but the US never cut anyone open and tried to see what would happen if you completely removed their stomach or cut off all their limbs and attached the wrong ones. |
| fun generalizations going on. Also, look at asian culture in general. Confucianism is never too fond of foreigners. |
Plate said: humhorse said: I think you'll be hard pressed to find any country that hasn't committed atrocities during war. The U.S. is no exception. No shit, but the US never cut anyone open and tried to see what would happen if you completely removed their stomach or cut off all their limbs and attached the wrong ones. zomg!!! |
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| @Plate: So? Japan never gave black people syphillus as an experiment. We can play that game all day long. And while Japanese culture may have it's problems, don't try to understand it from anime. That would be like someone trying to understand the U.S by watching Elmer Fudd chase Bugs Bunny. |
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ukonkivi said: Nice but cold if you're on the outside. Mean and brutally honest if you're on the inside. i'd rather have a truthful honest self than a lie living in fear though is not a good place to be |
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ALICE-in-chains said: i'd rather have a truthful honest self than a lie I know, but sometimes you gotta make people happy, like support, not just "Its not me, I dont care" |
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| It's basically the opposite on the internet, where everyone is brutally honest. In Japan, you have to be careful of being TOO honest, moreso than in the West. As a person who hangs out on the internet too much, I'm starting to think Japan's non-trollish system is better. Personally I don't what a person's honest opinion is, if that opinion is that since I have anime videos on my youtube account that I'm a chink worshipping weeaboo, that all Japanese should be killed, and that you're tired of all these white people trying to be inferior uninventive races like the Asians. Then I believe you can keep it to yourself. Sometimes honesty isn't the best policy. Because there are things in my life I could have gone without hearing. |
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| All the demons in the world come out of japan. so mean. And my professor, who is japanese wouldn't give me an A last semester. he's like, so mean. |
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Slykain said: ALICE-in-chains said: i'd rather have a truthful honest self than a lie I know, but sometimes you gotta make people happy, like support, not just "Its not me, I dont care" but i do care thats why im honest. but fear is different, fear of someone else doing things they should not. |
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ukonkivi said: Sometimes the best way to be caring is to not be honest. i know all too well thats true |
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Plate said: humhorse said: I think you'll be hard pressed to find any country that hasn't committed atrocities during war. The U.S. is no exception. No shit, but the US never cut anyone open and tried to see what would happen if you completely removed their stomach or cut off all their limbs and attached the wrong ones. Or maybe you fail to see that that was many years ago and that anybody who committed those crimes are dead now? Way to post something that has no bearing in this thread. |
formosan said: TheWestExit said: Yes, Japan is the meanest nation ever. I mean, just look at the Rape of Nanking. So mean. Because, remember, Mao Zedong can kill millions of his own people, China can invade Tibet, but Chinese people are always morally superior victims, no matter what happens. Yes, China can do no wrong. Didn't you watch the opening ceremony of the Olympics. Wasn't that amazing? |
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| Every place is mean in their own way or another. So yeah, whatever. |
Plate said: humhorse said: I think you'll be hard pressed to find any country that hasn't committed atrocities during war. The U.S. is no exception. No shit, but the US never cut anyone open and tried to see what would happen if you completely removed their stomach or cut off all their limbs and attached the wrong ones. I'm with Plate here. There's a huge fucking difference between a standard POW camp and the type of sick, depraved medical experiments the Japanese conducted on their POWs, including women and children. You guys think the Nazis and Josef Mengele, "The Angel of Death" were brutal to the Jews in their death camps? Even the Nazis were appalled at what the Japanese did during the war. There's a reason Koreans and older Chinese still consider the Japanese inhuman devils to this very day. Go read any number of books. Chinese mothers used to smear their eight year old daughters in mud and human feces so the Japanese soldiers wouldn't rape them. Speaking of Unit 731, one of the most disturbing films of all time was made about that very subject. Focus Japanese people today are nowhere near as bloodthirsty, brutal, and depraved as their ancestors, but they're still a bunch of crazy, perverted, racist motherfuckers. On the bright side, they add a lot to the world of MMA and video games, they make a lot of awesome live action films and television shows, plus anime and manga. So they get a pass. |
tr1ggers4d said: Generalisation makes the world go round.fun generalizations going on. |
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Drunk_Samurai said: Plate said: humhorse said: I think you'll be hard pressed to find any country that hasn't committed atrocities during war. The U.S. is no exception. No shit, but the US never cut anyone open and tried to see what would happen if you completely removed their stomach or cut off all their limbs and attached the wrong ones. Or maybe you fail to see that that was many years ago and that anybody who committed those crimes are dead now? Way to post something that has no bearing in this thread. I said it as a reply to the mention of the Rape of Nanking. Criticize that. Also I think at least one is alive because I remember he published a book recently. |
| Reading this topic wants me to stab myself. It's painful reading how fucking prejudiced and biased you guys are, generalizing everyone within nations with rather derogatory labels and remarks. I hope you guys realize this - when a nation or invidiudual does something, not everyone with the same ethnicity or within the nation supports it. With that logic, if US decided to bomb Iran based on racism,that must everyone in the US in the US are racist bastards that want to make war. I'm suprised the topic isn't deleted yet. Plate said: No shit, but the US never cut anyone open and tried to see what would happen if you completely removed their stomach or cut off all their limbs and attached the wrong ones. Doesn't make the US morally superior, have you seen the shit we did during the revolutionary war and imperialism? In addition, I will find myself stressing this time and time again - that is not a representation of the nation as a whole. A nation is made up of individuals. Not all individuals support it. True, what those Japanese soldiers did was completely disgusting and inhumane, but it doesn't make one nation morally superior. Check out the other thread on japan. formosan said: TheWestExit said: Yes, Japan is the meanest nation ever. I mean, just look at the Rape of Nanking. So mean. Because, remember, Mao Zedong can kill millions of his own people, China can invade Tibet, but Chinese people are always morally superior victims, no matter what happens. You mean how that was Mao Zedong and NOT the Chinese people? Believe it or not, most people don't support getting slaughtered and massacred(part of the reason many of they got massacred was because they weren't too fond of new govn't and leader..). One person is never the representation of a group of individuals - especially one of 1.3 BILLION PEOPLE. That said - either way, massacre on the scale of the Japanese is terrible. Don't forget how biased the situation in Tibet is getting, no one has any real idea of what's going on anymore considering there's so many lies propagating on both sides - and also, I don't see genocide and massacre in there like during WWII in china. Whatever China may have done doesn't mean it's justification for the Japanese. All nations love to hold themselves as morally superior, look at any major world nation. They all have very shady pasts. Look at England or any other Western country during the age of imperialism - it's disgusting. It's just that today, China is an easier target to bastardize. ShaolinRibiero said: Plate said: humhorse said: I think you'll be hard pressed to find any country that hasn't committed atrocities during war. The U.S. is no exception. No shit, but the US never cut anyone open and tried to see what would happen if you completely removed their stomach or cut off all their limbs and attached the wrong ones. I'm with Plate here. There's a huge fucking difference between a standard POW camp and the type of sick, depraved medical experiments the Japanese conducted on their POWs, including women and children. You guys think the Nazis and Josef Mengele, "The Angel of Death" were brutal to the Jews in their death camps? Even the Nazis were appalled at what the Japanese did during the war. There's a reason Koreans and older Chinese still consider the Japanese inhuman devils to this very day. Go read any number of books. Chinese mothers used to smear their eight year old daughters in mud and human feces so the Japanese soldiers wouldn't rape them. Speaking of Unit 731, one of the most disturbing films of all time was made about that very subject. Focus Japanese people today are nowhere near as bloodthirsty, brutal, and depraved as their ancestors, but they're still a bunch of crazy, perverted, racist motherfuckers. On the bright side, they add a lot to the world of MMA and video games, they make a lot of awesome live action films and television shows, plus anime and manga. So they get a pass. I really do hope you're joking. What Japan did is appalling, but how can their modern people be held completely guilty and accountable? How can ALL of japan have supported it?(here's a modern day analogy - say a couple of soldiers from the US army decide to torture and kill innocent civilians in Iraq or publish lewd pictures of sexual abuse? I don't think that means everyone in the US supports it.) Some of them may still support it today, and be just as depraved and despicable as those Japanese soldiers during the rape of nanking -but to generalize all of them as "bunch of crazy, perverted, racist motherfuckers" is just a complete fallacy in logic and outright prejudice. |
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| It is impossible to answer such a question in a satisfying manner. Personally, I consider generalizations to be a very bad form of reasoning; if we were to consider cases of individual Japanese, then you could judge some of them as mean. If I had to answer on a general level, I'd say that Japanese people aren't mean at all, they are even quite considerate of others - it is not what they think, but the way they act that matters. As for the discussion on war crimes, I think the general consensus is that every nation that has gone to war has done some pretty bad stuff; indeed, what was done by the Japanese in WWII is awful, inhumane, despicable, but we must face forward and forgive past mistakes, doing our best to live together as human beings and avoid such atrocities in the future. |
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tr1ggers4d said: I really do hope you're joking. It's ShaolinRibiero. |
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tr1ggers4d said: Doesn't make the US morally superior, have you seen the shit we did during the revolutionary war and imperialism? In addition, I will find myself stressing this time and time again - that is not a representation of the nation as a whole. A nation is made up of individuals. Not all individuals support it. True, what those Japanese soldiers did was completely disgusting and inhumane, but it doesn't make one nation morally superior. Check out the other thread on japan. No, it doesn't. But I don't think saying "everybody does it" is a justification of the terrible things Unit 731 did. The nation and the society created the individuals who approved of it, and those who carried it out. People don't just come up with an idea one day and somehow have the power to commit war crimes. A nation creates its war crimes. A fundamentally sick society creates people who do fundamentally sick things. |
| We Americans created the people who did our school shootings. Finnish people created the people who did their shootings. Doesn't mean we're to blame for their existance. Every society creates fucked up people. The war merely created a pathway for them to act on their desires. |
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ukonkivi said: We Americans created the people who did our school shootings. Finnish people created the people who did their shootings. Doesn't mean we're to blame for their existance. Every society creates fucked up people. The war merely created a pathway for them to act on their desires. Random shooters are a fluke. We're talking about something that required the consent of many, and the work of many. |
Plate said: No, it doesn't. But I don't think saying "everybody does it" is a justification of the terrible things Unit 731 did. The nation and the society created the individuals who approved of it, and those who carried it out. People don't just come up with an idea one day and somehow have the power to commit war crimes. A nation creates its war crimes. A fundamentally sick society creates people who do fundamentally sick things. Plate said: tr1ggers4d said: Doesn't make the US morally superior, have you seen the shit we did during the revolutionary war and imperialism? In addition, I will find myself stressing this time and time again - that is not a representation of the nation as a whole. A nation is made up of individuals. Not all individuals support it. True, what those Japanese soldiers did was completely disgusting and inhumane, but it doesn't make one nation morally superior. Check out the other thread on japan. No, it doesn't. But I don't think saying "everybody does it" is a justification of the terrible things Unit 731 did. The nation and the society created the individuals who approved of it, and those who carried it out. People don't just come up with an idea one day and somehow have the power to commit war crimes. A nation creates its war crimes. A fundamentally sick society creates people who do fundamentally sick things. #1: I'm not justifying it, I'm saying that you can't take out Japan and paint them as the worst - especially in terms of individuals. #2: Before WWII, japan was essentially overthrown by a group of highly militaristic japanese nationalists. They were a minority of the population, and most people opposed them and DID not approve of them. So, I suppose if you ignore that fact, you could say every single person in japan was a militaristic fanatic. #3: adding to that, most people opposed the invasions of China, but the fanatic military had control of the government. Much higher level opposition was killed. #4: A nation is made up of individuals. Remove the individuals, you have no nation. Individuals can think(to some extent i suppose) and form ideas. So unless Japan has now within a few short years become brave new world or 1984, I would find it impossible that they all approved of the actions. #5: Individuals create the war crimes. Individuals execute them or allow them to happen. A nation is made up of individuals. It is not something that acts on its own. #6. A fundamentally sick society? Way to completely ignore the majority of the population and concentrate only on the ruling minority. Don't forget the propaganda going on, it may have brainwashed quite a few people, but many people opposed it. Many more didn't even care or pay attention(and then we dropped the A-bombs on those civilians). Conclusion: Sure, if you are going to generalize the entire population as that small minority, then yes, your claim is valid. |
tr1ggers4dSep 25, 2008 7:38 PM
tr1ggers4d said: I really do hope you're joking. Joking about what? The fact that Japan during WW2 was one of the most vile, disgusting, and purely evil regimes in the history of mankind? No. The fact that it's somehow the fault of the modern Japanese people? Of course it's not, and neither myself, Plate, or anyone else ever typed such a thing. This topic is just a bunch of wild generalizations, but since some people are taking issue with Plate's historically accurate posts, I decided to point out that everything he/she said is correct. Japan was during that time period was every bit as evil and racist as Nazi Germany. That's all. triggers4d said: but to generalize all of them as "bunch of crazy, perverted, racist motherfuckers" is just a complete fallacy in logic and outright prejudice. Oh, that's the part about modern-day Japanese people. The part about them being racist is well-known. Read this; http://www.gaijinsmash.net/archives/gaijin_perimete.phtml As for crazy...do you really need to ask? Their entire culture is absolutely insane. I could point out a dozen shows on your own profile that support this claim. As for perverted...have you seen some of the crazy fetish porn Japan is responsible for? Yikes. For the sake of everyone here, I'll abstain from posting any links. ukonkivi said: It's ShaolinRibiero. The fuck is that supposed to mean? |
ShaolinRibiero said: Joking about what? The fact that Japan during WW2 was one of the most vile, disgusting, and purely evil regimes in the history of mankind? No. The fact that it's somehow the fault of the modern Japanese people? Of course it's not, and neither myself, Plate, or anyone else ever typed such a thing. This topic is just a bunch of wild generalizations, but since some people are taking issue with Plate's historically accurate posts, I decided to point out that everything he/she said is correct. Japan was during that time period was every bit as evil and racist as Nazi Germany. That's all. I never said those facts were wrong - I agreed with them. My comment was in reply to this. " Japanese people today are nowhere near as bloodthirsty, brutal, and depraved as their ancestors, but they're still a bunch of crazy, perverted, racist motherfuckers. " Tell me that's not a generalization. Also, I apologize for misinterpereting you guys about that placing the blame on modern Japanese then. ShaolinRibiero said: Oh, that's the part about modern-day Japanese people. The part about them being racist is well-known. Read this; http://www.gaijinsmash.net/archives/gaijin_perimete.phtml As for crazy...do you really need to ask? Their entire culture is absolutely insane. I could point out a dozen shows on your own profile that support this claim. As for perverted...have you seen some of the crazy fetish porn Japan is responsible for? Yikes. For the sake of everyone here, I'll abstain from posting any links. Ah, so joking. nvm then. |
tr1ggers4dSep 25, 2008 7:44 PM
tr1ggers4d said: ] Ah, so joking. nvm then. Well, more like one-quarter joking, three-quarters serious. If you know statistics, I'm essentially saying that the mean of the normal distribution for each of those qualities is about one standard deviation to the right for Japan versus the normal distribution for the rest of the world. |
| Yeah, I'd have to agree with that then I like to avoid generalizations, some japanese people are quite so in many regards... |
ukonkivi said: tr1ggers4d said: I really do hope you're joking. It's ShaolinRibiero. I, for one, am serious. So serious I made a club about it |
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ShaolinRibiero said: Plate said: humhorse said: I think you'll be hard pressed to find any country that hasn't committed atrocities during war. The U.S. is no exception. No shit, but the US never cut anyone open and tried to see what would happen if you completely removed their stomach or cut off all their limbs and attached the wrong ones. I'm with Plate here. There's a huge fucking difference between a standard POW camp and the type of sick, depraved medical experiments the Japanese conducted on their POWs, including women and children. You guys think the Nazis and Josef Mengele, "The Angel of Death" were brutal to the Jews in their death camps? Even the Nazis were appalled at what the Japanese did during the war. There's a reason Koreans and older Chinese still consider the Japanese inhuman devils to this very day. Go read any number of books. Chinese mothers used to smear their eight year old daughters in mud and human feces so the Japanese soldiers wouldn't rape them. Speaking of Unit 731, one of the most disturbing films of all time was made about that very subject. Focus Japanese people today are nowhere near as bloodthirsty, brutal, and depraved as their ancestors, but they're still a bunch of crazy, perverted, racist motherfuckers. On the bright side, they add a lot to the world of MMA and video games, they make a lot of awesome live action films and television shows, plus anime and manga. So they get a pass. yeah second that one some what 60 years ago japan invaded china and pretty much slaughtered the chinese D: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War just look at the causalities |
sikkkkeSep 25, 2008 9:22 PM
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| Japan are full of big meanie-heads. Those poo-faces. :< |
That's probably the first club I've seen on here that made me laugh...intentionally. |
TheWestExit said: Lol at the Chinese flag.I, for one, am serious. So serious I made a club about it |
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| It's actually a picture from an anti-Japanese protest in japan, http://www.fofg.org/news/news_story.php?doc_id=992 (Very first picture if you type angry Japanese in Google...) so I suppose it does actually make sense. ^^b |
TheWestExit said: ukonkivi said: tr1ggers4d said: I really do hope you're joking. It's ShaolinRibiero. I, for one, am serious. So serious I made a club about it I chuckled. |
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TheWestExit said: ukonkivi said: tr1ggers4d said: I really do hope you're joking. It's ShaolinRibiero. I, for one, am serious. So serious I made a club about it lmao quite good joke you have here, maybe it will become epic fail D: XD |
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TheWestExit said: ukonkivi said: tr1ggers4d said: I really do hope you're joking. It's ShaolinRibiero. I, for one, am serious. So serious I made a club about it That's pretty damn serious. |
TheWestExit said: I, for one, am serious. So serious I made a club about it Why so serious? |
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