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Oct 6, 2012 11:20 PM
#1
Happy endings are overestimated and overused and Its sucks how some animes try to have one when It clearly doesn't fit or pull out a Deus Ex just for the sake of having a happy ending. Those "potentially" sad endings are just frustating. The main protagonist is dead, or the world or going to end or w/e, and they put on some cheerful song and smiling characters and just try to force a happy ending (I'm looking at you DTB). I rewatched Death Note and while I think there are better animes in general, I just loved how it ended, I'd say Its the best ending I've ever seen. Melancholic music, everything made sense and Lights death actually moved me, anime never got me this close to crying since charmander flames going out on some pokemon episode/movie (I was a kid :<). Anyway, do you like sad endings? |
WindfallOct 6, 2012 11:37 PM
Oct 6, 2012 11:27 PM
#2
I think it really depends on the anime. A few animes I can think of had sad endings but probably the most infamous would be Chrno Crusade. My God did that ending have me depressed for days and I'm not even a big fan of that show. |
Oct 6, 2012 11:32 PM
#3
Toucanbird said: I think it really depends on the anime. A few animes I can think of had sad endings but probably the most infamous would be Chrno Crusade. My God did that ending have me depressed for days and I'm not even a big fan of that show. I guess I'll be watching Chrono Crusade then. I've seen a few people say they hate sad endings but never seen anyone say they liked them. |
Oct 6, 2012 11:35 PM
#4
Overestimated? I like sad endings and I like happy endings. Based on the show, but I usually am satisfied if the anime ends how the author meant it to(not those anime only endings). I liked Darker Than Black's ending, and Death Note's ending was expected and realistic. So I like each one the same amount, they each make you feel a different feeling when it ends. BTW you can use [spoiler]Put things here[spoiler] if you want to have a spoiler, just saying spoiler is not really good enough. And everybody almost cried when charmander's flame was going out. |
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Oct 6, 2012 11:52 PM
#5
IntroverTurtle said: Overestimated? I like sad endings and I like happy endings. Based on the show, but I usually am satisfied if the anime ends how the author meant it to(not those anime only endings). I liked Darker Than Black's ending, and Death Note's ending was expected and realistic. So I like each one the same amount, they each make you feel a different feeling when it ends. BTW you can use [spoiler]Put things here[spoiler] if you want to have a spoiler, just saying spoiler is not really good enough. And everybody almost cried when charmander's flame was going out. By overestimated I mean, people seem to try to avoid sad endings and end up forcing happy stuff in the last minutes to turn it into a happy ending... Not only animes, but also movies, games and series. I enjoy both happy and sad endings, but since I've seen so few sad endings, I tend to find them more unpredictable and fun. I liked DTB's ending too, but we have some badass dude whos gonna destroy the earth being born and Yin getting killed by Hei (At least I think he did and Its not official for the sake of a happier ending) So I feel like It being more melancholic without cheerful song/characters would fit it better. (talking about season 2 ending) Thanks for the spoiler tag |
Oct 7, 2012 12:04 AM
#6
Windfall said: Toucanbird said: I think it really depends on the anime. A few animes I can think of had sad endings but probably the most infamous would be Chrno Crusade. My God did that ending have me depressed for days and I'm not even a big fan of that show. I guess I'll be watching Chrono Crusade then. I've seen a few people say they hate sad endings but never seen anyone say they liked them. I'm mixed on them. It really depends on how well the characters in the anime are hashed out. If the character development is sub-par and the anime has a sad ending, it just doesn't seem as good as it should. Rosette and Chrno were develped really well in Chrno Crusade so that made for an even more powerful sad ending. I would also recommend Katanagatari (although I think the early parts of the final episode are sadder than the latter parts of the episode, and sola. I thought sola had a pretty good sad ending but I might need to put an * by it. I thought the ending was sad but I'm sure there are some people out there that didn't think so. |
Oct 7, 2012 12:18 AM
#7
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Oct 7, 2012 12:20 AM
#8
it depends if it's sad in a happy way or good way if so, the answer is yes |
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Oct 7, 2012 12:48 AM
#9
I like sad or tragic endings. I think they tend to have more impact compared to happy endings. |
Oct 7, 2012 12:49 AM
#10
Chrno Crusade ending was a big fuck you in the face man. lol Pretty depressing. Honestly, I'm not to keen on sad endings. I mean if it's appropriate for the story I guess but most of the time I'd prefer some sort of happy ending. I'm just cheesy like that. It ain't easy being cheesy. |
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Oct 7, 2012 12:53 AM
#11
I like sad endings, but good endings are cool too. I guess the only way I would have a problem with a happy ending is if the feeling is forced, like Mirai Nikki's ending, which was shitty imo. |
Oct 7, 2012 3:24 AM
#12
As they say, it depends on the anime, there are some animes did have its sad ending but left us smiling. If the anime ends that way, well i totally love it. ^~^ |
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Oct 7, 2012 4:18 AM
#13
Nope. I hate sad endings. I hate sad things in general. It's a big reason why I normally wait until anime is finished airing before I watch it. |
Oct 7, 2012 5:11 AM
#14
Oct 7, 2012 5:28 AM
#15
It depends on the kind of sadness really. There is a sadness where one admits defeat, where everything ends, where nothing but darkness happens. A few saddening animes would be (off the top of my head): - Cassherns Sin - Clannad: After Story (Was the hardest i've cried to date) - Chrno Crusade - Ga-Rei: Zero (Recommended by a friend who says it always makes him depressed) I'm not sure where its leading and I don't plan on having any spoilers, but SAO (Sword Art Online) anime has had me and a few others in tears at times, as well as triumphant times of joy. Have a poke around, I think somebody mentioned Wolf's Rain as a sad anime to me once? I'm not too sure about that one. ------------------ Again, depending on the theme and style (Such as Chrno Crusade), a sad ending can make an amazing anime ever more beautiful. However, sometimes the sad element of things is killed and that kind of kills the show in general.... So yup. |
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Oct 7, 2012 5:33 AM
#16
invalidsnowman said: Have a poke around, I think somebody mentioned Wolf's Rain as a sad anime to me once? I'm not too sure about that one. yeah, it has sad ending. anyway i like both happy and sad ending. what matters is how it was interpreted, and how fitting it was for the whole story. |
Oct 7, 2012 5:38 AM
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Oct 7, 2012 5:47 AM
#18
I like closure. Period. Death Note's ending was shit btw. Light went out like a total fag. |
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Oct 7, 2012 5:54 AM
#19
Nope. I fucking hate sad endings. I try to avoid anime with endings like that/ |
Oct 7, 2012 5:58 AM
#20
Obviously, i don't like Happy endings that feel forced, but otherwise happy all the way bro. At the end of Angel Beats i was like... T.T Kanade, Why you no stay? and yeah, Death Notes ending was totally. bleargh it's finally over |
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Oct 7, 2012 6:12 AM
#22
I like them. The sadder the better. If the characters are emotionally destroyed at the end, it's a plus. But if there has to be some happiness in there, I like it when they make it bittersweet ("Yes, we won, but we had to sacrifice a lot") Deziah said: I like closure. Period. Death Note's ending was shit btw. Light went out like a total fag. Haha... no. That final confrontation was epic. |
Oct 7, 2012 6:27 AM
#23
I like sad endings when they're done well, but I would say that sad endings have become the new happy ending as far as cliche-ness goes. |
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Oct 7, 2012 7:18 AM
#24
BatoKusanagi said: Deziah said: I like closure. Period. Death Note's ending was shit btw. Light went out like a total fag. Haha... no. That final confrontation was epic. ![]() Yeah, it was "epic" alright. An epic fail. |
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Oct 7, 2012 7:30 AM
#25
BatoKusanagi said: Haha... no. That final confrontation was epic. Well, Near was epic at the scene, but you can't say that was the waited end compared to the quality of the series. Excuse me compared to the quality of the series, before L died. |
Oct 7, 2012 7:44 AM
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Oct 7, 2012 7:51 AM
#27
Oct 7, 2012 9:13 AM
#28
I don't understand why people mention Clannad here though, it didn't have any sad ending at all, hell, any tragedy it had got washed away with the end. But it depends, the important thing is that the ending is well written and follows logically from the rest of the plot, whether it is sad, happy or bittersweet doesn't matter. Texhnolyze for example had a great downer ending, but it's not as if you didn't expect it. Similarly, LoGH's bittersweet ending was pretty much the only logical conclusion to the story. |
Oct 7, 2012 9:26 AM
#29
Baman said: I don't understand why people mention Clannad here though, it didn't have any sad ending at all, hell, any tragedy it had got washed away with the end. But it depends, the important thing is that the ending is well written and follows logically from the rest of the plot, whether it is sad, happy or bittersweet doesn't matter. Texhnolyze for example had a great downer ending, but it's not as if you didn't expect it. Similarly, LoGH's bittersweet ending was pretty much the only logical conclusion to the story. Clannad didn't have a happy ending at all. The last episode is nothing more than a glorified recap of the entire story as told by Tomoya to Ushio. It did little to nothing to relieve people of the intense sadness that occurred during After Story. |
Oct 7, 2012 9:31 AM
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Oct 7, 2012 9:37 AM
#31
Shiveron said: Wat. The deus ex machina ending redid all the deaths and threw in a happy ever after ending, effectively washing away any sad parts it had.Clannad didn't have a happy ending at all. The last episode is nothing more than a glorified recap of the entire story as told by Tomoya to Ushio. It did little to nothing to relieve people of the intense sadness that occurred during After Story. |
Oct 7, 2012 9:45 AM
#32
Shiveron said: Baman said: I don't understand why people mention Clannad here though, it didn't have any sad ending at all, hell, any tragedy it had got washed away with the end. But it depends, the important thing is that the ending is well written and follows logically from the rest of the plot, whether it is sad, happy or bittersweet doesn't matter. Texhnolyze for example had a great downer ending, but it's not as if you didn't expect it. Similarly, LoGH's bittersweet ending was pretty much the only logical conclusion to the story. Clannad didn't have a happy ending at all. The last episode is nothing more than a glorified recap of the entire story as told by Tomoya to Ushio. It did little to nothing to relieve people of the intense sadness that occurred during After Story. If you think Clannad had a sad ending, I dare you to watch Air. Air is the god-tier of sad endings. You'll cry like a bitch. Ontopic, I love sad endings. They destroy me, but they leave a far more lasting impact than traditional happy endings. |
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Oct 7, 2012 9:56 AM
#33
Sad or happy doesn't really matter to me, what I love though is unexpected endings, endings that pop out from the rest and catches me totally off guard. |
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Oct 7, 2012 9:59 AM
#34
Splitter said: Shiveron said: Baman said: I don't understand why people mention Clannad here though, it didn't have any sad ending at all, hell, any tragedy it had got washed away with the end. But it depends, the important thing is that the ending is well written and follows logically from the rest of the plot, whether it is sad, happy or bittersweet doesn't matter. Texhnolyze for example had a great downer ending, but it's not as if you didn't expect it. Similarly, LoGH's bittersweet ending was pretty much the only logical conclusion to the story. Clannad didn't have a happy ending at all. The last episode is nothing more than a glorified recap of the entire story as told by Tomoya to Ushio. It did little to nothing to relieve people of the intense sadness that occurred during After Story. If you think Clannad had a sad ending, I dare you to watch Air. Air is the god-tier of sad endings. You'll cry like a bitch. Ontopic, I love sad endings. They destroy me, but they leave a far more lasting impact than traditional happy endings. Clannad didn't even had a sad ending. BUT AIR, FUCKING AIR... There is nothing to be happy about the end of the series. |
Oct 7, 2012 10:13 AM
#35
Perhaps I just see the ending of Clannad differently. To me that last episode is little more than a recap and the events of the episode before it are the end. Splitter said: If you think Clannad had a sad ending, I dare you to watch Air. Air is the god-tier of sad endings. You'll cry like a bitch. Sounds like a challenge. Challenge accepted. To nyaa I go. |
Oct 7, 2012 10:39 AM
#36
Shiveron said: Yea, it's a bit fuzzy I guess, the ending doesn't make much sense unless it's seen in context with the VN, otherwise the magical light orb crap just looks like a poor deus ex machina. Which it still is of course, but at least it makes a lot more sense in the context of a multiple route VN.Perhaps I just see the ending of Clannad differently. To me that last episode is little more than a recap and the events of the episode before it are the end. Air was sadder, yes, but I still would rather call it bittersweet than sad. Texhnolyze and Basilisk for example, those had proper sad endings with nothing but misery in the end. Air at least had a tiny bit of hope in it. |
Oct 7, 2012 11:55 AM
#37
I don't get it, how is Death Note's ending shit or epic fail? I would understand people not liking it, but It has closure, no Deus Ex, nothing random and it made sense, just can't see how people find it terrible. Kiddo81 said: BatoKusanagi said: Haha... no. That final confrontation was epic. Well, Near was epic at the scene, but you can't say that was the waited end compared to the quality of the series. Excuse me compared to the quality of the series, before L died. Well, the first 12 episodes (before Misa) where the best for me, It got worse but I really did enjoy the rest, great anime. I don't think there was a sudden quality drop after L's death, Yotsuba part just wasn't as good as the beggining, so when people say that, I tend to think the only reason they think the quality dropped if because of L's death. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Either way, while I agree that the quality drop throughout the series, I still think the ending was perfect. Death Note ending without Light dying would just make it feel unfinished, would lack closure. |
Oct 7, 2012 12:17 PM
#38
I wish Mirai Nikki had a happy ending :( In genral i like happy endings unless if ther forced, for sad endings, eh, i actually havent seen that many that have moved me emotionally :/ |
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Oct 7, 2012 12:23 PM
#39
I like whatever ending feels more natural and makes the most sense. Sad endings can be really good, but so can happy endings. You say that happy endings are overused, but I don't really agree with this. Sad endings can be really pushed sometimes because some people seem to think that an ending has to be sad to be good. That is what I disliked about the end of Darker Than Black, they basically killed of all of the characters and tried to make it tragic when there was an easy and logical way to stop each of their deaths. It just felt so forced. |
Oct 7, 2012 12:24 PM
#40
Asianboy30354 said: I wish Mirai Nikki had a happy ending :( In genral i like happy endings unless if ther forced, for sad endings, eh, i actually havent seen that many that have moved me emotionally :/ what are you talking about mirai nikki did have a 'happy ending' |
Oct 7, 2012 12:48 PM
#41
What to say... most of the time I feel sad that the anime is finished ... hardly matters it has a sad or happy ending......... |
Oct 7, 2012 1:01 PM
#42
Shane777 said: I like whatever ending feels more natural and makes the most sense. Sad endings can be really good, but so can happy endings. You say that happy endings are overused, but I don't really agree with this. Sad endings can be really pushed sometimes because some people seem to think that an ending has to be sad to be good. That is what I disliked about the end of Darker Than Black, they basically killed of all of the characters and tried to make it tragic when there was an easy and logical way to stop each of their deaths. It just felt so forced. I had more experience with forced happy endings then forced sad endings. As for DTB, you're talking about season 2 ending with Kagutsuchi? If so, It ended with a cheerful song and smiling Misako, forcing a happy ending out of a sad ending, It didn't even feel like the world was about to end. What made Death Note ending sad was the whole atmosphere they setup for it, sad songs, showing Lights dead body, Ryuk writing his name on death note and etc, DTB lacked that to be truly sad. |
Oct 7, 2012 1:09 PM
#43
JavierR said: Nope. I fucking hate sad endings. I try to avoid anime with endings like that/ you and me both brother if i wanted sadness i would of stayed in reality |
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Oct 7, 2012 1:11 PM
#44
I don't like sad, I like wrist-cuttingly sad endings. Like, "why the hell was this anime even created?" sad endings. There is only one show that did this, Texhnolyze. I gave up on life for lyke a week after seeing it. |
Oct 7, 2012 1:30 PM
#45
Windfall said: I had more experience with forced happy endings then forced sad endings. As for DTB, you're talking about season 2 ending with Kagutsuchi? If so, It ended with a cheerful song and smiling Misako, forcing a happy ending out of a sad ending, It didn't even feel like the world was about to end. What made Death Note ending sad was the whole atmosphere they setup for it, sad songs, showing Lights dead body, Ryuk writing his name on death note and etc, DTB lacked that to be truly sad. I was talking about the first season. I never finished the second season because I found it to be terrible. I watched it a year and a half ago so I don't remember perfectly, but they basically killed off everyone around Hei, making his life total hell. I especially found Amber's death pointless since there were so many times when she didn't need to use her power and they set it up like she had planned to die from the beginning even though there were a million ways around it. In the last two episodes they killed off basically all of the contractors in Tokyo. Anyways, I loved the show, I scored it a 9, but the ending didn't sit too well with me. |
Oct 7, 2012 1:38 PM
#46
Shane777 said: Windfall said: I had more experience with forced happy endings then forced sad endings. As for DTB, you're talking about season 2 ending with Kagutsuchi? If so, It ended with a cheerful song and smiling Misako, forcing a happy ending out of a sad ending, It didn't even feel like the world was about to end. What made Death Note ending sad was the whole atmosphere they setup for it, sad songs, showing Lights dead body, Ryuk writing his name on death note and etc, DTB lacked that to be truly sad. I was talking about the first season. I never finished the second season because I found it to be terrible. I watched it a year and a half ago so I don't remember perfectly, but they basically killed off everyone around Hei, making his life total hell. I especially found Amber's death pointless since there were so many times when she didn't need to use her power and they set it up like she had planned to die from the beginning even though there were a million ways around it. In the last two episodes they killed off basically all of the contractors in Tokyo. Anyways, I loved the show, I scored it a 9, but the ending didn't sit too well with me. DTB Season 2 isn't that bad, the beggining is quite boring though. Gets better once Hei goes back to japan. I liked the idea of killing most of the contractors, but I didn't like how they did it most of the time. I still liked the ending though. |
Oct 7, 2012 2:14 PM
#47
For me, it really depends on the anime. Like, Clannad After Story got me the first time I watched it, but shows like Natsuyuki Rendezvous just irritated me to no end. |
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Oct 7, 2012 2:24 PM
#48
Oct 7, 2012 2:33 PM
#49
Though Deus Ex and forced happy endings may be inferior story wise, I just can't stand sad endings. |
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Oct 7, 2012 3:15 PM
#50
i don't even know how to vote. its really not a matter of preferring a happy or unhappy ending, its what is appropriate to that anime. It should make some sort of sense within the context of the show. sometimes theres a suddenl happy ending to a rather dark anime. that pisses me off. |
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