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| All i gotta say is (looks at naked gil) move off that rock (takes off shirt and gets naked) time to show you how a real man sits on a rock.... On a more serious note great series. Coming from a fan who has seen everything and more likely wasted way more then my own personally life and time on Fate and anything to do with it.(movie,fanbase stuff ,pics,games,visual novel,Light novels,anime series and even getting into weiss for fate) Im pleased and to me everything connections from fate zero to Fate stay night to Fate hollow so on.(considering anything i wanted to know more about researched hardcore like if it was a college final) SO im more then pleased and just happy it got the time to shine like it did. I just hope heavens feel will get some love and a chance. Since you can never have enough fate.... Now i dont feel bad for having a entire room base on fate stuff that grows everyday |
sonicxsamJun 24, 2012 7:43 AM
Shirou you and me... are one of the same |
Yumekichi11 said: McRib said: Indeed. I had lots of fun with this community and everyone. Big round of APPLAUSE to the many who devoted their times and energies in writing out and discussing marvellously this series. Truly you know who you are and your merits. There has been no more amazing crowd of knowledge and VN along with LN depth than here on MAL. Really TT_TT to all the wonderful knowledge from the many. There are no other means of happiness I can express despite not being too present in those discussions. Truly those deserve much appreciation you all. Well, that's all folks. It's been a fun 9 months. Overall, it was one hell of an adaption of the novels. I leave in your hands a little discussion in the spoiler I also find baffling the following poster in the spoiler Also Gilgamesh naked was O_O GTFO out of my face this body of his. It's for girls not my eyes. Astolfo is actually a guy (yes, i guess that makes him a trap). Can't wait for the Fate/Apocrypha LN tho. Don't know WHEN it's gonna EVER be released. As for this episode, it was ridiculously satisfying. Haven't felt so good about a "bad guy wins" ending since WC3 TFT. |
| They probably will re-make F/SN |
| If the same guys who did this will be doing it. I will be happy to see them remake anything. Even through my vote is for heavens feel just because its the only thing that needs a animation in less you consider Fate H/A |
| Shirou you and me... are one of the same |
| Awesome ending for the best show of the Spring 2012 season! ^.^ The writing in this show (light novel) is pure epicness. Kiritsugu realized that rejecting the Grail only caused more innocent casualties and he began to reflect on his sinful actions that he did during the War. While Kirei fully understands his evilness by looking at all the destruction and mischief of the town. That is so sick that Kirei gave Rin the dagger which was used to KILL her father. So evil, so ironic. :') The whole conversation about heroes really sets up for Stay/Night. I haven't watched Fate Stay Night yet (but I do have an idea about what's going to happen) , so I might give it a chance in the near future. |
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| All that suffering... all that pain... all for nothing... It was wonderful... I really enjoyed watching everyone's fall one by one... Kirei became my absolute favourite character of the show. Saber being a cause for Lancelot's defeat... And Kiritsugu losing even Ilya and living that pathetic life 'till the end. Everything was so well arranged. But it feels like everyone got what they deserved. |
| Oh god O_O 10/10. |
| Ah it's over, anyway among all the characters I like Rider the most. |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
Dusk252 said: NNick said: Well, it depends on what you mean by "avenge" and it also depends on the route. Shirou takes Kiritsugu's ideal upon himself, even of he does not fully realize its meaning. (If you want to know more, you should take the above user's advice though. And also stop writing every word starting with caps too, while you're at it.)So, Shiro Avenges Kiritsugu? |
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NNick said: So, Shiro Avenges Kiritsugu? Kinoko Nasu, the founder of Type-Moon and the creator of the Fate/Stay Night visual novel, actually gave his opinion on this: "Ahhh – Well done, Urobuchi Gen." Finished reading all four volumes, I close the book with heavy feelings in my heart and raise my face to the sky before letting out a sincere word of thanks. Too cruel. Too heavy. No one reaches salvation at all. But despite these sacrifices, there are still some sparks of light remaining in our hearts. Creation and destruction are a pair of twins. Everything was swallowed up in crimson flames and all disappeared with the wind. Yet in the end, a new life budded forth from a desolate battlefield that should only have been left with infinite sorrow. This light was infinitely small compared to all that had been lost, but it was incomparably nobler as a result. We who can only watch can only feel touched by that light. I only hope to add a little more value to the story. Even if he himself did not succeed in the end, the heir to his aspiration will one day appear – |
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Change, change the form of man. Free the might from fleshy mire. Boil the blood in heart of fire. Gone, gone the form of man. Rise the demon, Etrigan! |
Liberal said: I'd rather have both, but yes, a proper UBW adaptation should come before a HF anime (since it's the best arc and all!). Would love too but let's see what Ufotable wants to. If they want Saber salvation then it is obviously Fate, if it is Kerry salvation then they must go with Heaven's Feel. |
| I can definitely see why some people didn't like this episode. It's more of a set up for Fate stay night. And sadly Fate stay night has yet to get a proper adaptation. I'm pretty sure everyone will be satisfied if we get a good adaptation of Fate stay night, mainly the HF route of FSN. |
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| It finally end but I was kinda expecting a little bit more to the conclusion to each character however I think they did great job |
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MyAmy said: It finally end but I was kinda expecting a little bit more to the conclusion to each character however I think they did great job Reading previous posts will help with that. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ----------------------------------------  The final episode! You-know-who activates his command spell from last time and shit goes down. Well, thanks for the series, this been an awesome journey that began all the way back last Fall. Archer being badass, Rider being just pure epic, and Saber being the glorious king that she is. Also, great to see little Shiro with his cameo ^_^ It were 9 month.... Thanks to all the staff and Ufotable that animated this amazing serie!!!!! |
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UltimaniumX said: So that's where she appeared. I was too distracted by Shiro to notice lol. Even though I can't stand Taiga I was kinda hoping she would have a better cameo. Because cameos are cool. Oh well~~ Anyone else noticed Taiga in the back? sonicxsam said: Your Xbox looks awesome! I'm so jealous D:Now i dont feel bad for having a entire room base on fate stuff that grows everyday I only recently started getting back into collecting so I don't have much Fate related junk right now. Shouldn't take long for my collection to grow with all the FZ stuff being released though. |
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| Fujimura Taiga was the young girl who co-hosted The Einzbern specials with Irisviel, if you wanted a little more of her. |
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Leon-Gun said: Yeah I've seen them and she's quite tame in those specials (uhhhh no pun intended). I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually enjoy watching her. Maybe that's another reason why I wanted a better cameo .-.Fujimura Taiga was the young girl who co-hosted The Einzbern specials with Irisviel, if you wanted a little more of her. September why u so far away... |
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| This series has been a jewel of anime for 2011 and 2012. Animation, music, story and characters were first class and few anime series obtain all gardes like that these days. I may have left Fate/Saty Night Incomplete, but I don't have the slightest regret that I picked up Fate/Zero before I did complete it. I knew that Kariya's fate would be like this, but I felt it was cruel that he just died and was thrown away like trash while Sakura could not say anything better than "fool". Well, at least he died happy. I remembered I was dissapointed that the fight between Saber and Berserker was not given much attention, but I'm glad that it was quickly redeemed. And now it's clear. Only one character died in the first season, and that character was Assasin. But in the second season, twelve characters died satisfied or in despair. This is the style of Urobuchi Gen. A series completly worth my time. I give it a respectable 9/10. But now I keep wondering what I will do now when my weekend entertainment is gone. |
| Wait Avalon was given to Shirou, so doesn't that mean Shirou can't die in Fate Stay Night? How come he died in the beginning and Rin had to save him. Was this Studio Deen's fault? |
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Kurogashi said: That was before he summoned Saber and Avalon won't work without her being nearby to supply it with prana.I was beaten to it. |
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Kurogashi said: Wait Avalon was given to Shirou, so doesn't that mean Shirou can't die in Fate Stay Night? How come he died in the beginning and Rin had to save him. Was this Studio Deen's fault? Gae Bolg slows down Avalon healing anyways. Even if it worked without summoning Saber, it wouldn't be able to heal his heart fast enough. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| Oh. Thanks guys. Did Avalon ever come in handy in FSN? I rewatched episode 23/24 and Shirou traced Avalon, which left me confused. I had no idea what it did, but it looked like it gave Saber a super power up to beat Gilgamesh lol. So, what exactly was the point of Avalon in the ending of FSN? I thought it only makes the holder invincible. |
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Kurogashi said: Avalon saved his life in almost every fight in Fate or UBW...either Avalon or UBW or both. Avalon heals him, UBW hardens his body and pieces it back together.Oh. Thanks guys. Did Avalon ever come in handy in FSN? I rewatched episode 23/24 and Shirou traced Avalon, which left me confused. I had no idea what it did, but it looked like it gave Saber a super power up to beat Gilgamesh lol. So, what exactly was the point of Avalon in the ending of FSN? I thought it only makes the holder invincible. |
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| So why did he 'trace' Avalon (ep 24) when it was already inside him... Is that just Deen's made up stuff? |
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Kurogashi said: Oh. Thanks guys. Did Avalon ever come in handy in FSN? I rewatched episode 23/24 and Shirou traced Avalon, which left me confused. I had no idea what it did, but it looked like it gave Saber a super power up to beat Gilgamesh lol. So, what exactly was the point of Avalon in the ending of FSN? I thought it only makes the holder invincible. It also isolates the user from this world to another dimension which is why she survived that Ea blast. And he traced another one because he gave the "original" Avalon to Saber in his people die when they are killed scene. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
Kurogashi said: No, that was in the story. He gave it back to Saber because she had to fight Gilgamesh and she didn't had enough power to stop him without it. Then again, the end of Fate was a little too unrealistic what with Saber somehow pulling off like 3-4 Excalibur's when at the start of Fate just one put her on the border of death. But yeah, Fate had some asspulls. UBW and Heaven Feel's were a little better.So why did he 'trace' Avalon (ep 24) when it was already inside him... Is that just Deen's made up stuff? |
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Leon-Gun said: Kurogashi said: No, that was in the story. He gave it back to Saber because she had to fight Gilgamesh and she didn't had enough power to stop him without it. Then again, the end of Fate was a little too unrealistic what with Saber somehow pulling off like 3-4 Excalibur's when at the start of Fate just one put her on the border of death. But yeah, Fate had some asspulls. UBW and Heaven Feel's were a little better.So why did he 'trace' Avalon (ep 24) when it was already inside him... Is that just Deen's made up stuff? The 3-4 Excaliburs was somehow explained. VN said that she got some prana back from regaining Avalon...at least more than what sex gave her... Nonetheless still an asspull considering how Shirou was leeching off it all this time... |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
Leon-Gun said: Wasn't that because Shirou recently filled her up with magical energy, if you know what I mean?Saber somehow pulling off like 3-4 Excalibur's when at the start of Fate just one put her on the border of death. |
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| In the VN: Even if I die, if Saber beats Gilgamesh, Kotomine won't be able to obtain the Holy Grail. At the same time, even if Saber diesif I defeat Kotomine, Gilgamesh won't be able to stay in this world. …So there's no need to help each other. Our battles have already gone their separate ways. How come Gil would disappear? I thought he has his own legit body in FSN. |
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Kurogashi said: In the VN: Even if I die, if Saber beats Gilgamesh, Kotomine won't be able to obtain the Holy Grail. At the same time, even if Saber diesif I defeat Kotomine, Gilgamesh won't be able to stay in this world. …So there's no need to help each other. Our battles have already gone their separate ways. How come Gil would disappear? I thought he has his own legit body in FSN. Shirou isn't omniscient. He doesn't have the same amount of information we do. He didn't know how Gilgamesh stayed other than that the grail did something so he assumed that Gil was still linked to Kirei in some way. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| I'm going through the last few chapters of the VN and how come Ea can do that Ea blast thing. I thought someone in the past said it's only a 'Deen' thing (i.e. made up). Even in Fate Zero (anime), it was basically a nullifying sword thing, so what's with the Ea blast all of the sudden lol. Was Gil just holding back against Rider? And in the novel: "After all, he was a good enough person to let me go. He defeated me, the cause of that disaster, but he did not take my life." - says Kirei and he's referring to Kiritisugu Wait what? I thought Kiritisugu killed him. Only reason Kirei lived was cause he was brought back cause the grail felt like it... |
KurogashiJun 24, 2012 3:33 PM
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Kurogashi said: I'm going through the last few chapters of the VN and how come Ea can do that Ea blast thing. I thought someone in the past said it's only a 'Deen' thing (i.e. made up). Even in Fate Zero (anime), it was basically a nullifying sword thing, so what's with the Ea blast all of the sudden lol. Was Gil just holding back against Rider? Ea has two attacks. One is a simple compressed air blast that's like a whirlwind. The second is the one that splits reality. DEEN made up their own version of Ea and turned it into a laser beam... |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
BloodRequiem said: Official list of things that Fate/Zero characters managed to kill or otherwise destroy >Rider Team: - Assassins - 3 chickens - a few bags of rice crackers - part of a library - Caster's atelier >Saber Team: - Caster - Ryuunosuke - Kayneth - Sola-ui - Berserker - Kotomine - Gordius Wheel - the Grail - the Hyatt - a hamburger - a couple packs of cigarettes - a sizable portion of Fuyuki - Mercury-tan - Byakuya's hand - Iri's heterosexuality >Archer Team (version Tokiomi) - 1 Assassin - bottles and bottles of wine - Tokiomi's yard - Tokiomi's dignity - Kariya's bugs >Archer Team (version Kotomine) - Tokiomi - Ionian Hetairoi - Rider - Iri - more wine - Kiritsugu >Berserker Team: - Kariya - Maiya - Ougi - a small tentacle monster - a lamppost - a few of Gil's Noble Phantasms >Assassin Team - Rider's ladle - a tree - a bat >Lancer team - Lancer - Kayneth's finger - Kayneth's love life - the Einzbern castle - Risei - Gae Buidhe - some of Saber's hair >Caster team - many children - Kobayashi >Honorable mentions: - Rin → Ryuunosuke's bracelet - Maker of Gil's pants → some snakes Do I have to mention how hard I laughed after reading this? XDDDD Quite true btw. Thanks to all of their efforts, the city was after all half-destroyed. |
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| So Kiritsugu for 5 years basically lived with some voice in his head telling him to die, die, die? Is that the curse of Angra Mainyu? So he died from exhaustion or something? |
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Monochrome said: No worries man collecting takes time inless you got money just to throw out but then you might create a problem with collecting. Just take it slow. But my collection has grew this video is about 2 years old when i was a senior in high school. I do look forward through when you get a better collection you show your bro some love and sent a pic since i scream like a little girl for anything about fate. UltimaniumX said: So that's where she appeared. I was too distracted by Shiro to notice lol. Even though I can't stand Taiga I was kinda hoping she would have a better cameo. Because cameos are cool. Oh well~~Anyone else noticed Taiga in the back? sonicxsam said: Your Xbox looks awesome! I'm so jealous D:Now i dont feel bad for having a entire room base on fate stuff that grows everyday I only recently started getting back into collecting so I don't have much Fate related junk right now. Shouldn't take long for my collection to grow with all the FZ stuff being released though. playasia and ebay are the main places i buy my stuff if you want to find a good place for collectables or just fate stuff in general. |
| Shirou you and me... are one of the same |
| Could anyone please explain to me the discussion between kirie and Gil about why Kirie is alive ? and what Kirie mean by " Gil have achieved incarnation ? " |
loub31 said: Could anyone please explain to me the discussion between kirie and Gil about why Kirie is alive ? and what Kirie mean by " Gil have achieved incarnation ? " Kirei is still alive because the Grail provided him with an "artificial heart" to replace the organic one that Kiritsugu destroyed when he shot him in the chest. By Gil's incarnation, they're referring to the fact that, due to his contact with the black mud and thus with the Grail, Gilgamesh has basically been reincarnated with a physical body as opposed to the spiritual one that he possessed before. |
LunarMoonJun 24, 2012 5:11 PM
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Change, change the form of man. Free the might from fleshy mire. Boil the blood in heart of fire. Gone, gone the form of man. Rise the demon, Etrigan! |
| It's over and it was one hell of a ride. I hate Shirou, so I didn't like to see how he got quite some screen time and a couple of lines and I gave shit about Saber but the setting looked great. |
LunarMoon said: loub31 said: Could anyone please explain to me the discussion between kirie and Gil about why Kirie is alive ? and what Kirie mean by " Gil have achieved incarnation ? " Kirei is still alive because the Grail provided him with an "artificial heart" to replace the organic one that Kiritsugu destroyed when he shot him in the chest. By Gil's incarnation, they're referring to the fact that, due to his contact with the black mud and thus with the Grail, Gilgamesh has basically been reincarnated with a physical body as opposed to the spiritual one that he possessed before. thank you for the explication ... but the grail supposed to be destroyed ... so how can Gil make a contact with the grail !? |
loub31 said: LunarMoon said: loub31 said: Could anyone please explain to me the discussion between kirie and Gil about why Kirie is alive ? and what Kirie mean by " Gil have achieved incarnation ? " Kirei is still alive because the Grail provided him with an "artificial heart" to replace the organic one that Kiritsugu destroyed when he shot him in the chest. By Gil's incarnation, they're referring to the fact that, due to his contact with the black mud and thus with the Grail, Gilgamesh has basically been reincarnated with a physical body as opposed to the spiritual one that he possessed before. thank you for the explication ... but the grail supposed to be destroyed ... so how can Gil make a contact with the grail !? contact =/= contract contact meaning he touched the mud |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| the grail is still some super powered machine. it probably just gave him a body for shits and giggles. it grants your wish but at the same time taints your mind or some crap like that. just so happens that gil is to boss to get tainted. (might be wrong) /shrugs if the grail was destroyed how did it come back? did it come back after FSN? cause saber 'destroyed' it again... |
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BloodRequiem said: loub31 said: LunarMoon said: loub31 said: Could anyone please explain to me the discussion between kirie and Gil about why Kirie is alive ? and what Kirie mean by " Gil have achieved incarnation ? " Kirei is still alive because the Grail provided him with an "artificial heart" to replace the organic one that Kiritsugu destroyed when he shot him in the chest. By Gil's incarnation, they're referring to the fact that, due to his contact with the black mud and thus with the Grail, Gilgamesh has basically been reincarnated with a physical body as opposed to the spiritual one that he possessed before. thank you for the explication ... but the grail supposed to be destroyed ... so how can Gil make a contact with the grail !? contact =/= contract contact meaning he touched the mud I know he touched the mud but the grail its self was destroyed |
| Pretty good episode, although several instances were kind of meh/ cheesy. A big improvement over the first half of the show, which should have been cut down big time. I also still maintain that Kiritsugu's backstory was more interesting than the main plot. Edit: Holy lol at most of the latest reviews for this, ruthless fanboy-ing. |
JoshJun 24, 2012 5:53 PM
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
loub31 said: They destroyed the cup. The Grail System was untouched. As an afterthought of sorts (probably because he went "oh shit I forgot", lol) Waver actually destroys the Holy Grail system (known as the Great Grail) in the Fate and Unlimited Blade Works routes, according to Nasu's extra ramblings and materials. I mention it because it seriously is never mentioned in Fate or UBW.BloodRequiem said: loub31 said: LunarMoon said: loub31 said: Could anyone please explain to me the discussion between kirie and Gil about why Kirie is alive ? and what Kirie mean by " Gil have achieved incarnation ? " Kirei is still alive because the Grail provided him with an "artificial heart" to replace the organic one that Kiritsugu destroyed when he shot him in the chest. By Gil's incarnation, they're referring to the fact that, due to his contact with the black mud and thus with the Grail, Gilgamesh has basically been reincarnated with a physical body as opposed to the spiritual one that he possessed before. thank you for the explication ... but the grail supposed to be destroyed ... so how can Gil make a contact with the grail !? contact =/= contract contact meaning he touched the mud I know he touched the mud but the grail its self was destroyed |
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