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Mar 1, 2012 1:43 PM

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I think what happened in this episode is TOO CONVENIENT for Shu.
But that is how the story goes.

To sum it up.
Shu and Haruka aren't related at all. Haruka is Shu's second mother.
The big guy Ogumo died.
That Segai guy finally closed his own curtains.

The only thing that making me hate what is happening right now is because the remaining classmates and the remaining Funeral Parlor members just abandoned Shu when he got his arms sliced off, and then resolve that quickly?

I guess I need to see the next episode.
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Mar 1, 2012 1:46 PM

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Ah, it's too bad Segai is dead in this episode.
He's my fav antagonist in this series, and it's such a shame that his role is over.
Anyway, Shu got his void back, and can't wait to see what he will do next.
Mar 1, 2012 1:51 PM

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Okay episode...I pretty much expected Shu to take his new void in this episode because in 3 episodes the anime ends!!
The fighting scene was really good, and the OST of course was great...
Well, now I can't wait for the 3 final episodes and the battle between Shu and Gai.

Also, after Shu took the new void he is going to die, right?I mean his mother told that, the one that will use this void is going to die, so in the end Shu dies...
Mar 1, 2012 1:53 PM

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too little too late to save the anime. 2/5


it's not, there is a second season u dick, don't just say things u don't understand
it's a 22 anime episode , so is there realy a second season ?
Mar 1, 2012 1:58 PM

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Fantastic episode. So, "Shu's Void gathers everything and assumes its weight: Strength, weaknesses, darkness, light, everything". What I expected from Shu.

Inori will probably relieve him from his burden, as seen in the opening. So we could confirm for a good end?

jenna123 said:
Fuck the people who don't like this anime. Go find other ANIME if you don't like it.
Disliking Guilty Crown and listing all of its bad qualities is popular, I usually just ignore it: you should too.
Mar 1, 2012 2:04 PM

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OMG Shu was awesome and badass. I could not believe his void was his right arm XD. Shits about to happen now. Gai you better watch out XD
Mar 1, 2012 2:08 PM

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Misuryu said:
Fantastic episode. So, "Shu's Void gathers everything and assumes its weight: Strength, weaknesses, darkness, light, everything". What I expected from Shu.

Inori will probably relieve him from his burden, as seen in the opening. So we could confirm for a good end?

jenna123 said:
Fuck the people who don't like this anime. Go find other ANIME if you don't like it.
Disliking Guilty Crown and listing all of its bad qualities is popular, I usually just ignore it: you should too.


Too be completely honest, I think I'd prefer a bittersweet ending with him sacrificing himself to save everyone else and rid the cancer.
Mar 1, 2012 2:10 PM

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I love this shit

Do a barrel roll
Mar 1, 2012 2:12 PM

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nedstark1990 said:
Confirmed Fate ripoff: Trace on arm and Unlimited blades Works


Confirmed "Dieing for our sins" ending, ripped off from many popular anime Madoka, Code Geass, TTGL (not really for sins but you get the picture)...etc...
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The point with Haruka not being his birth mother makes a lot of sense now, considering their original dynamic (him calling her Haruka instead of "kaa-san" or something else) was incredibly casual and something you'd never see realistically. Anyways, I liked it. Had its flaws but every show does, and this was at the higher end of the spectrum plot-wise. Only thing that pissed me off was Tsugumi suddenly going all gushy on dead!Oogumo when she showed no signs of it before.
Mar 1, 2012 2:15 PM

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Oh my GOD finally! Finally! I've waited 18 episodes for Shu to be genuinely gar with no strings attached! It was damn worth it.
I was anticipating his void to be a guilty ...wait for it... crown in the end, but getting back his arm is still more convenient, even if this bear-all-the-pain-of-the-world power smells Madoka to me :D

I was scared as hell Ayase will get the genom though...

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that. The whole time she was holding that little suitcase, I was hoping for my boy Segai to show up. Imagining Ayase with the king's power... No, just no. Would get killed in no time.


I kinda wanted Segai to get it...kinda...
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Mar 1, 2012 2:18 PM

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I really like how Shu turned out to be a more dependent character, which stood in contrast to his previous emotional behaviour.
My friend told me some time ago that his arm could be his void, but i haven't believed in it until after the scene where his arm got cut off...
You were right all the time! xD

The title "Guilty Crown" also became more meaningful after the revealing of the power of Shu's void...

This made my thursday like every week (but only 3 more times T__T)

Don't let it eeeend!

5/5


Mar 1, 2012 2:21 PM

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I love this shit


Dat barrel roll.

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The point with Haruka not being his birth mother makes a lot of sense now, considering their original dynamic (him calling her Haruka instead of "kaa-san" or something else) was incredibly casual and something you'd never see realistically. Anyways, I liked it. Had its flaws but every show does, and this was at the higher end of the spectrum plot-wise.


I'm pretty sure everyone was aware of the high possibility that Haruka wasn't his real mom on the first episode she appeared. Though I don't see the family resemblance between her and Mana.... Pink... hair? Guess shes probably an experiment of some sort.
Mar 1, 2012 2:27 PM

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Great episode, :D at Segai wearing a winter hat. C: Gotta love the ignorant people like Flawfinder and Kerozinn who like to put their own ideals on others, the anime is fine you two are just stuck up bitches. :) You guys act like you're some pro reviewer, you're not; just some kid who probably lives in their parents house flaming online. :)


Did I say people shouldn't watch this episode? I don't even recall saying that I hated this episode. I remember saying that the people who'd like it are those who are attached to the characters or are action junkies. What more do you want from me?
FlawfinderMar 1, 2012 2:31 PM
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Mar 1, 2012 2:28 PM
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oh quality animation...
Mar 1, 2012 2:31 PM

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oh quality animation... <img src="http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w321/ryanagamis/NicoNico_Guilty_Crown_-_19__1280x720_E7AF5EC6mp4_snapshot_1951_20120302_052614.jpg" />


He kinda looks like Caster from F/Z there.
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DONT DIE SHUUUUU!! T_____________T

DONT BE OUR NEXT LELOUCH!!!! ;_________;

I CANT BELIEVE THERE R 3 MORE EPISODES T.T
Mar 1, 2012 2:41 PM

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Fucking amazing, it's hard to even describe this episode ^^ .
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Mar 1, 2012 2:43 PM

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First episode I've actually liked, lol.

But Gai is just a suck-ass version of Griffith. Pft pft pft. Unless the other theory that he's doing it with another motive, which would be highly likely with the consistency of this anime.
Mar 1, 2012 2:43 PM

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Flawfinder said:
sn0w said:
Great episode, :D at Segai wearing a winter hat. C: Gotta love the ignorant people like Flawfinder and Kerozinn who like to put their own ideals on others, the anime is fine you two are just stuck up bitches. :) You guys act like you're some pro reviewer, you're not; just some kid who probably lives in their parents house flaming online. :)


Did I say people shouldn't watch this episode? I don't even recall saying that I hated this episode. I remember saying that the people who'd like it are those who are attached to the characters or are action junkies. What more do you want from me?


They want you to praise this animu becuase something good finally happened. Its going to be worse on the last episode where everyone is going to have a bukkae session over this show becuase 1. "Shu vs Gai fight SO AWSUM!!" or 2. "OMG Shu sacrificed himself!! Dis best animu evr!!"

This is the calm before the storm.
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Mar 1, 2012 2:47 PM

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Badass shu incoming!!!
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VioLink said:
Flawfinder said:
sn0w said:
Great episode, :D at Segai wearing a winter hat. C: Gotta love the ignorant people like Flawfinder and Kerozinn who like to put their own ideals on others, the anime is fine you two are just stuck up bitches. :) You guys act like you're some pro reviewer, you're not; just some kid who probably lives in their parents house flaming online. :)


Did I say people shouldn't watch this episode? I don't even recall saying that I hated this episode. I remember saying that the people who'd like it are those who are attached to the characters or are action junkies. What more do you want from me?


They want you to praise this animu becuase something good finally happened. Its going to be worse on the last episode where everyone is going to have a bukkae session over this show becuase 1. "Shu vs Gai fight SO AWSUM!!" or 2. "OMG Shu sacrificed himself!! Dis best animu evr!!"

This is the calm before the storm.


Then why don't you sail off into the sunset for greener pastures before the *airquotes* storm hits? You won't be missed.
Mar 1, 2012 2:52 PM

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Then why don't you sail off into the sunset for greener pastures before the *airquotes* storm hits? You won't be missed.


My boat's under repair. Besides, I want to see how Noitamina's attempt at a mainstream series ends. Also, I should point out that I never once said that I regret watching this series. And I never hated this episode. I thought it was okay (3/5).
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All I have to say about this is..

WHY WAS IT NOT THIS GOOD FOR THE FIRST 18 FREAKING EPISODES!?
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So we all know Shu's fate now...

Also it looks like Shu's void also replica's of other peoples voids so their "heart" is in no real danger if it is destroyed. That's what I think at least because he was able to create Yahiro's void without even drawing it out, plus the void looks different.

Since we know what Shu's void does now I assume he is gonna gather everyone's "cancer" and have it perish with his own body... Make's me kinda sad knowing what will happen to him and how nothing can stop it. This is the fate of the king. Tragic.
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2/5, hurry up and finish this train wreck Shu.
Mar 1, 2012 3:07 PM

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What is Mana's relationship to Shu? Stepsister? Adopted sister?
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Mar 1, 2012 3:08 PM

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I guess Shu is planning on sacrificing himself for the sake of saving (primarily) Inori and everyone else... great character development right there.
Mar 1, 2012 3:10 PM
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This episode was going to be the last guilty crown I was going to watch. Mostly season 2 has been going down hill. I liked this one, so it gets 1 more chance.
Mar 1, 2012 3:14 PM

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This episode reminds me of Scott Pilgrim climax scene.



Shu has earned the power of Self Respect!! *power up noise*

Segai is such a sadist. This episode was as much about Segai as it was about Shu's revelation. They seem to give him a nice farewell episode by showing him in all his glory. The scene where he tortures and kills the young girl was awkward. It was rather dichotomous of him to be monstrous sadist to everyone, yet he was a completely submissive towards Shu. His death scene was cringe worthy. It sounded sexual almost.

I think Shu "earning the power of self respect" and Segai going out in all his glory is what makes this episode work. It was by far one of the best in the series.

However, while this episode seems to try and justify this anime's messy plot all in one shot, it falls short of it's goal. It's a nice individual piece. But it still doesn't save this entire train wreck of a series.

Ayase seems to be taking the place of Hare as the sweet girl. God, I hope that doesn't mean she's going to die next. Ayase and Tsumugi are untouchable. If either of them die I'm giving the series a 1 final grade out of spite.

Overall, i just hope the remaining characters survive. Though I have a feeling Haruka and Arisa will die towards the end, especially Arisa. She's due to have her own atonement sacrifice to foolishly give Gai one more chance.

BlackKnight27 said:
Did they really have to play the "dying for everyone's sins" card? I knew it was coming, and I really was hoping the directors wouldn't resort to that in order to evoke an emotional response from the viewer.

And I guess the only reason why the Void Genome didn't kill Shu is because he's "The Chosen One." And will we ever find out how the Void Genome was able to regenerate Shu's arm and gave him the power to cure Souta? Probably not.


WOW, you make a great point. It's like they're actually going to rip off the Bible!! or maybe it's the Matrix with the "chosen one" theme. Though everyone says Matrix was a ripoff of the Bible also. Really, nothing about Guilty Crown feels original the story seems like it slapped together a million different ideas from other series and threw them together. Lately most anime seem to have this compulsion for copying ideas. So, can't really pin it just on Noitamina.

I wonder if Shu dies and then gets resurrected?

I can see it now, "The Church of Shu Ouma and the Funeral Parlor."
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Did they really have to play the "dying for everyone's sins" card? I knew it was coming, and I really was hoping the directors wouldn't resort to that in order to evoke an emotional response from the viewer.

And I guess the only reason why the Void Genome didn't kill Shu is because he's "The Chosen One." And will we ever find out how the Void Genome was able to regenerate Shu's arm and gave him the power to cure Souta? Probably not.
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Flawfinder said:
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Great episode, :D at Segai wearing a winter hat. C: Gotta love the ignorant people like Flawfinder and Kerozinn who like to put their own ideals on others, the anime is fine you two are just stuck up bitches. :) You guys act like you're some pro reviewer, you're not; just some kid who probably lives in their parents house flaming online. :)


Did I say people shouldn't watch this episode? I don't even recall saying that I hated this episode. I remember saying that the people who'd like it are those who are attached to the characters or are action junkies. What more do you want from me?


They want you to praise this animu becuase something good finally happened. Its going to be worse on the last episode where everyone is going to have a bukkae session over this show becuase 1. "Shu vs Gai fight SO AWSUM!!" or 2. "OMG Shu sacrificed himself!! Dis best animu evr!!"

This is the calm before the storm.


Then why don't you sail off into the sunset for greener pastures before the *airquotes* storm hits? You won't be missed.


Becuase I love watching these tryhard animes fail. This was the best episode in the series though.
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Overall a very good episode, but how did Haruka escape when he shot at her in the beginning?

Too bad, would have loved to see Ayase with void powers. However Shu's void fits his actions and thoughts throughout the series.
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I guess Shu is planning on sacrificing himself for the sake of saving (primarily) Inori and everyone else... great character development right there.


Wimp -> Tyrant -> Suicide.

Best character devlopment ever.
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Wait...How did Shu get so close to Arisa without getting caught? Yeah the guards were busy with the civilian...But wouldn't there be more of them? Or at least they'd be more vigilant.
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Overall a very good episode, but how did Haruka escape when he shot at her in the beginning?


Too many anime (including great ones) have done this kind of scene that I don't think it warrants questioning.
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still all this haters who don't see the greatness in this anime, the reasons people have for not liking it is all the same and so much bullshit. OST is one of the best in anime history, animation is top notch, Even though shu is doing badass things people just whines about him and call him shoe!. Stop watching it if u think its bad instead of talking crap!!
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What the hell happened to the awesome art? The faces are all derp derp -_-'

This episode was a hit and miss really. The last minutes were freaking awesome. Except Shu's void being something I can't understand AT ALL! Oh yeah and Segai died... Fuck you.


3/5


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Mar 1, 2012 3:35 PM

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Great episode. I love Shu's void. I am guessing his void is the "Guilty Crown". He takes on everything, good and bad.
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So, they turned Shou into Archer...well, that's better than turning him into Shinji 2.0.

Still a horrible episode as allignments switch around more than the underwear of Arisa while she's schlicking off to Gai.
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Cirris said:
This episode reminds me of Scott Pilgrim climax scene.



Shu has earned the power of Self Respect!! *power up noise*

Segai is such a sadist. This episode was as much about Segai as it was about Shu's revelation. They seem to give him a nice farewell episode by showing him in all his glory. The scene where he tortures and kills the young girl was awkward. It was rather dichotomous of him to be monstrous sadist to everyone, yet he was a completely submissive towards Shu. His death scene was cringe worthy. It sounded sexual almost.

I think Shu "earning the power of self respect" and Segai going out in all his glory is what makes this episode work. It was by far one of the best in the series.

However, while this episode seems to try and justify this anime's messy plot all in one shot, it falls short of it's goal. It's a nice individual piece. But it still doesn't save this entire train wreck of a series.

Ayase seems to be taking the place of Hare as the sweet girl. God, I hope that doesn't mean she's going to die next. Ayase and Tsumugi are untouchable. If either of them die I'm giving the series a 1 final grade out of spite.

Overall, i just hope the remaining characters survive. Though I have a feeling Haruka and Arisa will die towards the end, especially Arisa. She's due to have her own atonement sacrifice to foolishly give Gai one more chance.

BlackKnight27 said:
Did they really have to play the "dying for everyone's sins" card? I knew it was coming, and I really was hoping the directors wouldn't resort to that in order to evoke an emotional response from the viewer.

And I guess the only reason why the Void Genome didn't kill Shu is because he's "The Chosen One." And will we ever find out how the Void Genome was able to regenerate Shu's arm and gave him the power to cure Souta? Probably not.


WOW, you make a great point. It's like they're actually going to rip off the Bible!! or maybe it's the Matrix with the "chosen one" theme. Though everyone says Matrix was a ripoff of the Bible also. Really, nothing about Guilty Crown feels original the story seems like it slapped together a million different ideas from other series and threw them together. Lately most anime seem to have this compulsion for copying ideas. So, can't really pin it just on Noitamina.

I wonder if Shu dies and then gets resurrected?

I can see it now, "The Church of Shu Ouma and the Funeral Parlor."


Cool story bitch, wouldn't read again.


BlackKnight27 said:
Did they really have to play the "dying for everyone's sins" card? I knew it was coming, and I really was hoping the directors wouldn't resort to that in order to evoke an emotional response from the viewer.

And I guess the only reason why the Void Genome didn't kill Shu is because he's "The Chosen One." And will we ever find out how the Void Genome was able to regenerate Shu's arm and gave him the power to cure Souta? Probably not.


QQ moar. My care cup isn't filled quite yet.
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This was rad. Looks like his void is the Guilty Crown.
His right hand is now is void, while the left is the Void Genome. If he uses his own void to pull out voids, they look like TRON weapons.
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Cirris said:
BlackKnight27 said:
Did they really have to play the "dying for everyone's sins" card? I knew it was coming, and I really was hoping the directors wouldn't resort to that in order to evoke an emotional response from the viewer.

And I guess the only reason why the Void Genome didn't kill Shu is because he's "The Chosen One." And will we ever find out how the Void Genome was able to regenerate Shu's arm and gave him the power to cure Souta? Probably not.


WOW, you make a great point. It's like they're actually going to rip off the Bible!! or maybe it's the Matrix with the "chosen one" theme. Though everyone says Matrix was a ripoff of the Bible also. Really, nothing about Guilty Crown feels original the story seems like it slapped together a million different ideas from other series and threw them together. Lately most anime seem to have this compulsion for copying ideas. So, can't really pin it just on Noitamina.

I wonder if Shu dies and then gets resurrected?

I can see it now, "The Church of Shu Ouma and the Funeral Parlor."

Yeah, actually it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to compare the last 3 episodes to Christ's death and resurrection.
- In episode 17, Shu is betrayed then "killed" in a metaphorical sense because he loses his King's Power.
- In episode 18, Shu is "dead" because he can't do anything.
- In episode 19, Shu is "resurrected" a few days later when he gets his arm and the King's Power back.

Plus, Shu can now apparently cure the sick (i.e. Souta) much like Christ could. Maybe now Shu will start walking on water and turning water into wine, lol.
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next ep is flashback we will see less shu in next ep
but whatever i like shu now , not just because his guilty crown but that hero from fire scene
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Overall a very good episode, but how did Haruka escape when he shot at her in the beginning?


Too many anime (including great ones) have done this kind of scene that I don't think it warrants questioning.
guess you didn't notice when she was riding her bike her left shoulder was bleeding.
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whereas the last void genome draws out a weapon and passes everything (i.e. burdens, strengths, weaknesses, darkness, lightness) about that particular person's heart onto Shu.


No, the void genome has the same power as Gai and the Other Guy's Power of Kings/Void Genome. The one that absorbs everything is his void himself. That's why when his void was scanned there was no number because it was infinity.
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I wonder if anyone notcied, but it seems his void is limited to creating one void at a time, or perhaps that was coincidence? or perhaps intended otherwise it would be op? Minute detail observation aside, I really like how Segai died in this ep. I know a lot of people says he deserved better or whatever but think about it from his point of view, best death ever anyone? Then we have Shu, cant say i didnt expect something like this but... This is one character I can say I've hated then empathized then liked then OH YEAH!!'d at the same time. Lets see if he wont pull us a Madoka, though I personally would've prefered a Lelouch :D, always something charming about a martyr (provided they actually have a cause) dont you think?
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still all this haters who don't see the greatness in this anime, the reasons people have for not liking it is all the same and so much bullshit. OST is one of the best in anime history, animation is top notch, Even though shu is doing badass things people just whines about him and call him shoe!. Stop watching it if u think its bad instead of talking crap!!

Goodness I want to slap diehard fanboys like you.

Enjoyable episode, probably the only one aside from the first. Starting to get enjoyable, I wonder how'll they will rush the last three episodes. Being enjoyable doesn't mean its good. Don't get me wrong here though, I'm not an elitist who'll shoot you down if you like this show.

Tron/Emiya hand looks pretty cool, especially in the OP.
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So uhh...Shu's void has the power to take other's void (Complete duplicate to the King's power). So the last void genom was literally wasted.

Also breaking the new arm = Shu's death = major weakness. O.K.....
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i thought this was a pretty sweet episode so this is the fate Shu has chosen huh i really do hope he dies saving everyone it's either that or Inori saves him in the end and his tracer void looks badass.


my heart goes out to Segai for dying a happy screwed up man and gumy for dying like a boss.

Oh and i want that Other Bois song now!~
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