No. 6
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| Okay, now I understand how people don't like the fact that there are shounen-ai hints and people really want get into the plot and all or want Shion to stay straight and their last hope is found in Saku...but I actually feel neutral about her. She seems like an odd girl. Boys obviously found her to be a total nerd so Shion was her only friend when they were young (I think...) and when she asked him if they could have sex (in that 'weird' way of her's) I nearly had a mental breakdown. I find it quite horrifying when an innocent and open-minded character like Shion gets asked a question like that. Just..no. It freaking scares me thinking about him doing indecent acts. With anyone!. So I just see her as plain weird. If Saku and Shion end up together...I won't be against it but I wouldn't be for it either because..well..SHE'S JUST SO...ODD! -- Also with the fangirl vs. people against the shounen-ai fight...please, guys just drop it. -__-' To fangirls: Say what you want to say. If someone says something that is against your beliefs or your likings, leave it. Don't try to retaliate because they obviously don't like BL and you aren't going to convince them into liking it. They can think what they like. They aren't right...heck no one is right for all I know. You like BL and you can express what you want. Just please...notch it down a bit if you're bothering someone and try to avoid bashing Saku. Some people like her and when you tell her to die it really sounds immature and hurts other people. To people against it: I'm not telling you to leave them alone since you can freely express your feelings towards the shounen-ai in the anime, but don't try to bring the blame upon fangirls. It really isn't their fault that their eyes rest only upon the boy love. It's probably hard for you guys to understand and I know some of them are really into the whole NezmuixShion thing (I believe that's how they do the yaoi pairings...SemexUke? Correct me if I'm wrong). Anyways, if a fangirl squeals or expresses his/her happiness to a certain 'scene' and you find it 'immature' or 'whatever', try to keep it to yourself. You don't need to tell them they are acting like complete idiots. They probably already know that they're acting a 'little' overboard but bashing or saying something rude about boy love is hurting them. You're free to put your comments on how the shounen-ai is a hindrance and they get the freedom to express their gratitude towards seeing the shounen-ai parts. Can we all just stop fighting? It's a pointless battle because no one wins. It's like one group of people trying to protect and back-up their love for yaoi by proving the other group wrong while the other group keeps throwing more insults at them so the fangirl group throws stuff at the other group and it's just a cycle. It never stops because in the end, people will still not like the shounen-ai and people will still like the yaoi. You can complain, but convincing another person will be quite impossible. Nobody likes to be proved wrong, especially in something they feel strongly for or against. |
| oh, my.... the dancing... XD forgive me, but I can't stop myself smiling from ear to ear and unconsciously waiting "kissing" scene from the moment Sion tries to wake Nezumi up ;p |
T3rm1n4t0r2 said: epiklow said: Ahh, but with all the BL fanservice, can you really expect us not to ship them? I think the producers knew quite well that their audience would be crazy about the whole ShionxNezumi thing too, seeing they show a whole lot of fanservice rather than the plot itself.. Of course, I do admit that majority of the people who want Nezumi and Sion to get it on and are just watching this anime for just that reason are mehh... and should look for another anime for that. As for your endgame theory.. Heh.. heh... (; Reply: hm.. can you explicate on what you mean by "ship" them? And I have to agree that those damned producers knew what would happen with all the "misleading" (in my opinion) events happenning in the all the episodes so far. They piss me off for that. But atleast they're producing a good and ms=ysterious plot so far. Ship refers to pairing together characters, I don't know how it came about, all I know is it means they support Shion x Nezumi as a pairing, and right now the plot doesn't really seem to be developing fast, so it's hard to tell if this is really mysterious or not. EarlCiel I agree with you there, the fighting should stop but might I add I don't think many were fighting, I was just standing up for people dropping, I believe someone tried to indirectly bash to I countered and then had some fun debating. Right now there seems to be some peace between the factions, but I'm sure it will kick off in the next episode thread, so I recommend you try and say your words as it happens, maybe it'll stop the senseless bashing, I do hope some plot can be discussed though |
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Tanrim said: SkyHigh said: Tanrim do you really think Nezumi will get over his hatred for No.6 clearly there is something that he isn't telling us that contributes to his hatred, I think part of why both Safu and Nezumi collapsed could be the reason, and that it's tied in with that tower in No.6. Don't really expect him to stop hating the power behind the city but the innocent people that probably don't have anything to do with what he's so mad about, maybe. So far the every day citizen really doesn't seem to be guilty of much other than ignorance which last I checked isn't a capital offense. We'll have to wait and see, though. True but Nezumi doesn't seem to care if they are innocent or not, I believe in his mind he believes all those who inhabit No.6 are guilty of ignorance and that if they don't see what's in front of them they deserve to die, maybe he has a specific grudge, but either way i don't see Nezumi changing much, maybe Shion will use that influence of his to get Nezumi to change his way of thinking though. |
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You sir/miss have just made my day hahahaahaha, but I really hope that doesn't happen. |
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| I think the bees have changed Sion's body so he is superfast.. faster than Nezumi.. more beastlike. The dance was seriosuly WTF but the end was thrilling.. Shion really does have some secret power. |
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Lylaaz said: I think the bees have changed Sion's body so he is superfast.. faster than Nezumi.. more beastlike. The dance was seriosuly WTF but the end was thrilling.. Shion really does have some secret power. I suspected something was up with Shion strength wise since last episode when he attacked the pimp, he moved way too fast and completely overpowered a full grown adult without them struggling at all due to completely immobilising, that's very hard to do, and well Shion has no training or fighting experience so something must of happened to his physiology besides just changing hair colour, eye colour and getting red marks. I am curious as to what it is though. |
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T3rm1n4t0r2 said: Im criticizing the people who warp this anime out of proportions and ruined it for the sake of giddy perverted pleasure. SkyHigh said: Lylaaz said: I think the bees have changed Sion's body so he is superfast.. faster than Nezumi.. more beastlike. The dance was seriosuly WTF but the end was thrilling.. Shion really does have some secret power. I suspected something was up with Shion strength wise since last episode when he attacked the pimp, he moved way too fast and completely overpowered a full grown adult without them struggling at all due to completely immobilising, that's very hard to do, and well Shion has no training or fighting experience so something must of happened to his physiology besides just changing hair colour, eye colour and getting red marks. I am curious as to what it is though. i agree. Its so mysterious. I bet Shion has some "special thing" in is DNA or something... Red eyes and tattoo are not common on the others who died. |
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Orulyon said: i believe you´re totally right:) your comments make all the sense and are very true. but as for me, i never tried to make anyone like yaoi (that´s impossible), my posts are merely trying to suggest to yaoi dislikers to dont comment yaoi comments made by fangirls, bashing us fangirls for what we like. We are excessive sometimes, its true. (gomen). But it makes us happy to talk about it to the other yaoi fans, so all i ask is respect;D i hope i never fight with anyone, i prefer to debate over things ^.^ Thank you! I understand that you are trying to protect and back-up what you believe in. The people who are making rude comments on that do deserve a little lecture if they dropped so low that it clearly insults you. If that happens then you can give them a little lecture about being civilized and keeping their 'hate' to a lower level, but if they keep retaliating and going against what you say, just give it up and carry on with your life. Don't waste your breath on something that will never end, because you may tell them your opinions, but they'll probably disagree with them, again. And it goes on. Same for the other side. If you keep saying mean things about the fangirls, you'll get a lecture. Don't waste your breath . They can bash you, but they can't take away your privilege to talk about the shounen-ai in this anime. People who bash the fangirls probably don't mean to hurt you, but they're probably just frustrated with this anime. Imagine there was suddenly yuri in this anime or something. Wouldn't it seem...disgusting to you? Right? Wouldn't it seem...strange? That's exactly how some guys feel and I think that everyone needs to understand each side. I can tell that you like to debate ^^ You're really good at it and I fully respect your opinion. I also respect the opinions of others too, people should learn to respect the opinions of others and maybe take it into consideration. I find that to be a wonderful technique. |
Orulyon said: i agree. Its so mysterious. I bet Shion has some "special thing" in is DNA or something... Red eyes and tattoo are not common on the others who died. However that would be kind of cheesy or too Cliché, if anything I believe Safu and Nezumi have something different because they both like collapsed at the same time, maybe it's the survivors who get such markings, like maybe the bee's like heighten someones peak physical performance then lower it drastically as if they are rapidly aging the person, they would of course hit peak physical performance, or maybe higher since these are mysterious bees, if anything I believe it could be down to the fact that he survived, his body has created some form of anti-body against the bees (just random conjecture) and this has had an influx in his bodies physiology. Ok this is just guessing but it COULD be possible. EarlCiel said: They can bash you, but they can't take away your privilege to talk about the shounen-ai in this anime. People who bash the fangirls probably don't mean to hurt you, but they're probably just frustrated with this anime. Imagine there was suddenly yuri in this anime or something. Wouldn't it seem...disgusting to you? Right? Wouldn't it seem...strange? That's exactly how some guys feel and I think that everyone needs to understand each side. I can tell that you like to debate ^^ You're really good at it and I fully respect your opinion. I also respect the opinions of others too, people should learn to respect the opinions of others and maybe take it into consideration. I find that to be a wonderful technique. I think you're wasting your time their Earl in regards to the Yuri, I asked the same thing last episode thread to some degree, she watches it, or has at least watched it, she has also debated that love between any combination of genders is beautiful. I agree we should all learn to respect, and thats why people like you, Orulyon and I (at times) have debated such an issue, but I prefer standing up for those who wish for perfectly plausible reasons, like you mentioned with your Yuri example and then relating it for Yaoi to men, so I try to make the fangirls respect the droppers, then the fangirls get angry at me 0.o hmm is there any way to resolve such a crisis? Easy, just never care what anyone else says to some degree, lets the fangirls squeal (please not too obssessively, it can really put people off the anime who don't think theres a plot due to the over the top fangirling, it also degenerates most plot discussion, this is a wish, not a command!) and let the haters hate and don't respond to them, and let the people dropping drop it without insulting them and everything would be fine. But who am I kidding as if that's ever going to happen. :( |
SkyHighAug 6, 2011 7:27 AM
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| It was a very interesting episode, the pacing is slow despite the fact the show is going to be wrapped up relatively soon. |
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| This is a disguised shounen ai? |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
Confucius said: This is a disguised shounen ai? No, how could you ever say something so absurd! There is no attempt at disguising, this is Shounen-Ai, if you don't get that by now you are delusional, or maybe BONES are going for the whole shounen-ai angle and are ignoring the plot in favour of fanservice. |
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| All I can remember is the random dancing scene and random faint scene. |
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SkyHigh said: I think you're wasting your time their Earl in regards to the Yuri, I asked the same thing last episode thread to some degree, she watches it, or has at least watched it, she has also debated that love between any combination of genders is beautiful. I agree we should all learn to respect, and thats why people like you, Orulyon and I (at times) have debated such an issue, but I prefer standing up for those who wish for perfectly plausible reasons, like you mentioned with your Yuri example and then relating it for Yaoi to men, so I try to make the fangirls respect the droppers, then the fangirls get angry at me 0.o hmm is there any way to resolve such a crisis? Easy, just never care what anyone else says to some degree, lets the fangirls squeal (please not too obssessively, it can really put people off the anime who don't think theres a plot due to the over the top fangirling, it also degenerates most plot discussion, this is a wish, not a command!) and let the haters hate and don't respond to them, and let the people dropping drop it without insulting them and everything would be fine. But who am I kidding as if that's ever going to happen. :( Ahh, I see. Personally, Yuri scares the heck out of my because..well, yeah. But that's strictly my own opinion. o__o;; As for you trying to make fangirls respect the people who dropped the anime, I think that's really nice of you to do that. Those people kind of need a boot to the head. I think the reason they are angry at you is because, well, to them you kind of are representing people who don't like the shounen-ai in the anime. I guess it's more that they're mad at the droppers, but since they aren't here they take it out on you. My advice would be to ignore them. What the heck does that have to do with you? They can get angry all they want but seriously. Everyone has their own right. If a person drops this anime, so be it. People don't have to stick their nose into others business. Sure they may want to tell them,"YOU DROPPED AN AWESOME ANIME!" or "YOU'LL REGRET IT, YOU JERK!" or something along those lines...but they're not going to listen because the obviously aren't here |
| I see the discussions are still alive and well. I suppose the haters have all dropped this by now but that's only an assumption on my part. Wait what's going on again? Oh yeah the two young men dancing inside a room and outside their place. Th last two episodes were slow and including this one it kinda mellowed my interest in this series but I'll hold on since the plot seems to be moving again. What going on with Safu? Don't tell me her grandmother turned into Soylent Green next episode. XD |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| I'm gonna puke. Well i didn't realise it was Shonen ai -.- I thought at worst that they would become "brothers" but not buttbuddies. I hate drama crap in general so... But i will continue the serie untill they kiss and it becomes to lovey dovey. Allen Walker <3 Mukuro Rokudo Or Yuu Kanda <3 Lag Seeing, hell he even got a bee on his hat. Fanfic much. |
| The view of of the abandoned railway in the wasteland while the sun set was really beautiful. The OST was really good too at that moment I think the setting of the atmosphere is very good in the anime, the art is very good and has the right colours and light effects at the times it has to, and the music fits it so great too. |
Marablack said: I cannot get enough of those two sigh i really don't want safu to come back and interrupt them but it looks like it could be a possibility from the preview That's what you should want, getting what you want without competition is boring, besides its Safu <3 haha, nah I don't really love her that much, but I do like her character :) |
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| im a BL fans, but i must say that i really really really love Safu!!!!!! She is so smart, not whiny, and strong willed, haven't seen girl like that on anime lately the dance scene is.. err... somehow beautiful, but im hoping Nezumi to kiss Shion, but it didn't happen, so... shame on you Nezumi!!! Shion X Safu ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ |
Wasabi said: Riiigghhttt... so Nezumi and Safu had some ridiculous random acid trip because they heard some random ass woman singing. And lo and behold, Safu suddenly thinks of Nezumi. The fuck? Then they danced. They fucking danced. They might as well just have even more close quarters contact and wrestle each other but of course, we wouldn't want to be too manly and rough about it. We need to keep some shred of beautiful elegance or we'd scare the girls too much. What the fuck is this show pulling at right now? 5 episodes in and the plot has barely been touched upon. It's just been bromance after bromance for the most part. What happened to Big Brother government? The dystopian lives of people living outside the walls? The fucking bees? At least they're finally doing SOMETHING with it. I would add that the singing part wasn't well done in that it seemed like a voiceover. I was never sure throughout it that the singing was part of their reality. And plot-wise, it seemed like only about a minute of the episode was spent moving the story forward and the series is almost half over. However, most commenters seem to miss that because they're too busy complaining that Safu got sixty seconds of screen time (and gushing over other events). For a dystopian world, it doesn't actually seem that bad. I'm sure that a lot of people have it worse in the real world. Gonna have to lower the score on this. But I'll give it another episode. If it's anything like this one was, then it's time to drop. Oh, and regarding all the comments about the cross-dressing not really being cross-dressing... Shakespeare's plays may have been performed by all male casts back in the day, but that was because society was very rigid about what women did. This society obviously doesn't care about anyone, so don't blame Shakespeare. Nezumi is doing what he wants to do, just like when he made Sion dance with him. |
| Another immensely thought provoking episode. 5/5. Though I don't really know why people are comparing this with yaoi, I mean sure both of the male characters are quite close to one another, but it's not like they're lovers. They're friends. I love how much the plot is thickening, each time you learn the answer to a previous question, a new question replaces the former. |
What the problem is, is that the focus of the anime has drastically shifted from what you'd expect from the first couple of episodes (where there are no hints of BL) the complaints about the BL, shonen-ai, or whatever has been going on since episode 1. As for the focus, like episode 1 there has always been scenes devoted to covering how Nezumi and Shion interact. Outside of "action" scenes the type of interaction has always shown them to be really close even when they first met. The tags on MAL also don't note every show as romance or hetero/homo just because there is a some hinting going on when the plot isn't advancing. |
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| Who would have thought that this anime would have turn this way, grinning to beginning to end. |
| After Nezumi found out that Sion was watching his play, he got surprised (and shy? Nah..) but after that he's smiling?? He somewhat looked happy of the fact that Sion's coming to watch his play... :/ THAT Sion managed to attack(touch) HIS pressure point?? Good job, Sion. Well, though that's definitely not his purpose. He just touched the part where the bee could be coming out. I love this scene and Nezumi got all tense and stiff, shocked and confused as of how Sion could do that, how could he allowed Sion to touch him. Is it because of Nezumi's unconsciously letting his guard down to Sion? or he just didn't see it coming and Sion had some unknown ability? :p Sion's saying things like "You're the only person I can't bare to lose" or sumthing..how romantic~ hahaha and how funny Nezumi ignored his confession (JK) and was occupied with something else ---> "Shion...who are you?" They're dancing while No.6's being attacked by bees. How...dramatic? About next episode...I couldn't make any assumption (maybe 'coz I'm dumb?) :p I NEED SPOILERS!! I'm the kind of person who don't mind being spoiled of so....pleaseeeee!! >< I love smart people, I love Sion, I love Nezumi, I love Safu, I love NO.6!!! xDDDD Buuuuuut!! I hope all of you stop the arguments, oh BL lovers and BL haters. Just wait 'til the anime ends then you can conclude what it is actually, BL or not. |
| I can't believe my PC crash when they dancing halfway, I have to reload my video stream =( I wonder what is the connection between bee and ratz. Very surprises on Nezumi on the stage.I wonder what other job he is doing beside that.Its very strange that he suddenly faint and having strange dream on bees . |
| LOL... :))) That dancing was fine until they made it all melodramatic with the scene change!!! >.< Gosh... Ah! And then the scene when Shion sits... the shot was a wee bit weird right after the dance... I say! O.o The song.. makes me wonder if Safu and Nezumi are related somehow.... This ep seemed short.. O.o |
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| t]This show is amazing. the plot is sweet and shows how human each character is trying to survive in whatever situation they're in. Watching Nezumi and Shion's relationship grow is wonderful. I loved the dancing and Shion saying he would stay by Nezumi (pretty much a wedding vow). To be honest i think the reason why the books and show isn't labeled as light BL (as many people think this show) is for many reasons. Mainly, It doesn't follow any BL stereotypes, therefore it can have a wonderful plot without annoying fanservice to get in the way but instead make the characters and plot grow. In fact, their relationship could be considered not homosexual but have a deeper meaning. They care for each other, they love each other but (so far) not in a romantic way. Course as a BL fan i like to think that they like each other. lol :3 |
DarkRoseOtakuAug 7, 2011 9:49 PM
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| Love how this series makes me ship Nezumi and Sion so hard XD; Hope the series remains this great @_@ <3 |
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