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Nov 19, 2012 11:44 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEESS!!!!!!!


Mod Edit: This thread was originally made for episode 23 and 24 because they were aired at the same time. Now that people are probably watching these episodes individually, this thread should be more about episode 24.
If you want to discuss specifically episode 23, please go here.
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Nov 19, 2012 11:47 AM
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I DONT KNOW ANYMORE

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hxrQztA-EY
Nov 19, 2012 11:48 AM
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Sasuga BONES.

Did this show really need to be made?

At least the soundtrack was good.
Nov 19, 2012 11:58 AM
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Can we just.. not discuss this episode.. or this anime, ever again?
Nov 19, 2012 12:19 PM
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was it seriously that bad?

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 19, 2012 12:20 PM
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Can you guys please clarify what you're moaning about?
Nov 19, 2012 12:31 PM
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I don't think one needed to see these last two episodes to know that this series shouldn't have been made. Just saying.
Nov 19, 2012 1:05 PM
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jesus fucking christ......... fuck this

kayos90 said:
I don't think one needed to see these last two episodes to know that this series shouldn't have been made. Just saying.

I agree, train fucking wreck all the way. First E7 series is special and that's it, this... show... never happened - yea that seems right.
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Nov 19, 2012 3:08 PM
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Eureka Seven: Psalms of the Planets never had a sequel. That seems right.
Nov 19, 2012 3:10 PM

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Is the ending really that bad enough that you make two eps. into one forum topic? (I haven't watched it because I cannot with the internet here and raw is not here yet, so... I'm really curious!!)

tsubasaloverNov 19, 2012 10:43 PM
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Nov 19, 2012 3:42 PM

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I feel like their over exaggerating how bad it really is, they are acting like this was fucking guilty crown. They probably just did something like overhype something which is more along the lines of their fault not the show.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 19, 2012 4:50 PM
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I just want to know what happened, what in the world could be so bad that everyone complains but no one says anything specific about it?
Nov 19, 2012 4:51 PM

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Ya, that's what I'm sort of wondering now too.
Nov 19, 2012 4:56 PM

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From animesuki

Episode23

Episode 24:


Basically
Nov 19, 2012 4:57 PM

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To put it simply...

Nov 19, 2012 5:03 PM

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Thats not really that bad. Actually that sounds like a good twist

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 19, 2012 5:11 PM
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Man... I'm so eager to watch this, trying to not look at spoilers, but it is so tempting...
RAWS, Y U NO DROP
Nov 19, 2012 5:14 PM
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Now i get why everyone were so upset ^^ it's like " if you're a fan of E7 you just need to avoid E7 AO because if you don't terrible things will happend" still, i'm going to wait for the subbed ver and make my own conclusions about this, thanks for the spoiler guys and see ya, in the next crazy adapted version of this once wornderful now badly exploited franchise ^^
kitsukoNov 19, 2012 5:35 PM
Nov 19, 2012 5:16 PM
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I haven't watched it but my body is ready.
Nov 19, 2012 5:31 PM

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kitsuko said:
thanks for the spoiler guys and see ya, in the next crazy adapted version of this once wornderful now badly exploited franchise ^^

Personally I wouldn't want Bones to touch any of their original anime. First Darker than Black and now this.
Nov 19, 2012 5:38 PM
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Linkark07 said:

Personally I wouldn't want Bones to touch any of their original anime. First Darker than Black and now this.


But they will...be sure that they will
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kitsuko said:
Linkark07 said:

Personally I wouldn't want Bones to touch any of their original anime. First Darker than Black and now this.


But they will...be sure that they will
what makes you so sure, and you really cant count darker than black, season 1 ended on a cliffhanger, they didnt go back to it, it was already planned to be a multi season thing. Eureka 7 ao is pretty much their only sequel to something complete

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 19, 2012 6:12 PM

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Bones is only good at doing adaptations of complete material vide FMP:B
Nov 19, 2012 6:18 PM
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I am just planning to pretend this never happened, because it pretty much didn't.

Ao should have just vanished because he was never born there..... ugh my head.

They left huge problems in the timeline.

Also I just don't get why their first child died. I am pretty sure children were born in the E7 universe normally and it was never mentioned that TRAPAR was dangerous to Eureka why would the offspring of a Human and a Coralian die because of it?

They just pulled so much out of their ass it's astonishing.
Nov 19, 2012 6:22 PM

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bastek66 said:
Bones is only good at doing adaptations of complete material vide FMP:B
so in other words you have only liked 1 of their shows? Everything they do is anime only, the ones that arent dont follow the original manga and otherwise the manga is made after the anime.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Nov 19, 2012 7:58 PM

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bastek66 said:
Bones is only good at doing adaptations of complete material vide FMP:B


You didn't like Xam'd? That was such a great show...
Nov 19, 2012 8:12 PM
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bastek66 said:
Bones is only good at doing adaptations of complete material vide FMP:B
Eureka seven was never an adaptation. >.> The manga came AFTER.

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Linkark07 said:
kitsuko said:
thanks for the spoiler guys and see ya, in the next crazy adapted version of this once wornderful now badly exploited franchise ^^

Personally I wouldn't want Bones to touch any of their original anime. First Darker than Black and now this.


I actually preferred the second season of Darker than Black actually... So far AO hasn't been nearly as good as the original E7, but I feel that if it had more episodes, say 50 like the original, it could have been great! The pacing is whats dragging it down, it needed more episodes. However, I have liked it, and I am incredibly excited for these last two episodes.
Nov 19, 2012 10:08 PM

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>implying that first series' ending was any better


Way better get out of here.
Nov 19, 2012 10:27 PM

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Should have made separate threads for each episodes as they're still seperate.

Well regardless, just watched Ep 23.... so... problem solved? Like that? Really now? Wow... dammit Ao, should have just shot it like multiple episodes ago.

At least seeing more Renton managed to brighten the day.

/wait for 24.
Nov 20, 2012 12:28 AM

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Oh boy. That's all I can describe the series for me atm.

mediocre 6.5/10 possibly lower for me.
Nov 20, 2012 12:32 AM

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Wow, this was bad.
Nov 20, 2012 12:39 AM

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If someone says that the plot of this series - let alone these two episodes - make sense and is good, that person is crazy. Anyone with a brain in their head will recognize that this show and these last two episodes are horrendously bad.
Nov 20, 2012 12:48 AM

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Gazelle looks so much like Holland now @ 21:37 rofl.

In the end we don't get any explanations on the Gekko, etc. FUCK YOU BONES.
Nov 20, 2012 1:01 AM
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A lot better than I was expecting, so glad Renton and Eureka survived it and were reunited. Also the fight between Renton and Ao was great as well as Truth becoming the Nirvash's archetype actually made him likeable, pity they didn't put it in earlier. Oh and the use of the Eureka Seven climax song was fantastic.

Bad points, climax was rushed way too much, it basically just came off as one huge info dump when it really needed a lengthier exposision. Also the canon cannon got used way too much. Honestly though looking back it was probably the only way to end it. Still it felt like a bit of a cheap shot considering everything that happened in the series. Also felt they fucked up with Naru again.

But overall for what it was, it was good.
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
I feel like their over exaggerating how bad it really is, they are acting like this was fucking guilty crown. They probably just did something like overhype something which is more along the lines of their fault not the show.


Honestly I would rate Guilty Crown above this. Guilty Crown started good, and..... i think guilty crown ended better, much better than this.

My biggest issue with the entire series highlights the biggest fail of the series. "Where the fuck is Renton?" *teased once near the end* *Renton shows up* "THE END"

The only way that it Ao was like E7 is in the fact that at the end they show us future Ao and then cuts....... but E7's showing of Renton and Eureka in the distance brought pleas for a sequel. Ao just brought tears of crushed hopes and dreams, and happiness that the pain is over.

Overall this series wasn't terrible. It could have been a great series if they had just removed any relation to Eureka Seven. The connection only convoluted more than it already was, which was a bit too much.
Nov 20, 2012 1:05 AM

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My feeling to ep.23

Father and son time with the history of the secret and the plant things. Then father vs. son. What? Truth = the robot / Archetype thing.

Also there was a sister for Ao? Not only Ao led them unite, but also ended everything and made himself not exist in this confusing "multiple parallel" world.
tsubasaloverNov 20, 2012 1:10 AM
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Nov 20, 2012 1:07 AM
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its out its out. zomggggg! after like... forever... the season is over ;n;
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tsubasalover said:
My feeling to ep.23

Father and son time with the history of the secret and the plant things. Then father vs. son. What? Truth = the robot / Archetype thing.

Also there was a sister for Ao? Not only Ao led them unite, but also ended everything and made himself not exist in this confusing "multiple parallel" world.


Except for the fact that Ao can't visit Renton and Eureka, since he's gone poof. No Nirvash, no gun, no zip, no dat. They gave us a platter of crap ._.

The series was meh. I would have been fine with just leaving Season 1 with that, and nothing else. Was nice to hear different songs, and reoccurring ones, seeing renton + eureka for like what 2 episodes. That's the only good points I can give this.
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i think that they answered all of my questions. but come on, that ending!?!?! i want a happy ending...

well, it's a happy ending for the parents, i guess... sucks to be Ao...
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They should have just focused on a story from Renton and Eureka's point of view or left out any relation to the first season (an entirely different story in the same universe). Naru was extremely underdeveloped for me and I still don't know why truth had to be in this show. Overall it just felt like characters and plot points were not fully explored.
Nov 20, 2012 1:26 AM

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Honestly,

The series started off pretty good and kept me entertained until around the mid season (episode 14 onwards) when it kinda started to drop.

I agree that the ending seemed really rush and they let go alot of their ideas towards the end (flying on a board without trapar?)..

Basically Ao is now a useless character in his time line with no way to get back to any kind of timeline.

So...meh?
Nov 20, 2012 1:28 AM
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The only thing this anime gave me was adult Renton, thats all it provided for me, and I had to suffer through all those episodes just to finally see him.

I really wanted to know what happened to the others. (Original people)

But shit, Ao got totally screwed over, I didn't like him but damn. The sloth was my favorite character, I couldn't find one character that wasn't super annoying.

If I wrote the ending, they would have somehow figured out how to take Ao with em. Happy end.
Nov 20, 2012 1:41 AM

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This series was such a wasted of time.
I thought having Renton back, may fix it at least in the end, but I was wrong.
Nov 20, 2012 1:43 AM

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Oh and what about Fleur? She looked so sad when he was about leave T_T poor Fleur could never get her feelings out to him!
Nov 20, 2012 1:48 AM
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so... they killed all the Ao's potential romance for the sake of keeping Eureka x Renton... way to just piss off the protagonist in the story

no one knows hiim in the new world he's in and archetype Truth disappears = AO HAS NO FRIENDS :(
Nov 20, 2012 1:57 AM

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basically... the show was so bad that protagonist himself cancelled the whole show(all the events) by himself from even happening in the first place. lol. ^ ^
Nov 20, 2012 2:13 AM

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Oh and what about Fleur? She looked so sad when he was about leave T_T poor Fleur could never get her feelings out to him!
Yeah it's just sad. This ending made it so nothing really mattered. Maybe that's why these characters and subplots were underdeveloped, because it wasn't going to mean anything anyways.
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It may seem trivial just to join a forum just to vent, but seeing as how I'm not the only one that happens to have felt the same this seems like a good place.

Truth is I gave this show a chance. I really wanted to enjoy it. Yet in the end it just failed to tie it all together.

The biggest problem with Eureka Seven Ao is how convoluted it is. The first mistake was making the series have a time travel element. It just made everything unnecessarily complicated.

The first Eureka Seven although it had it's mysteries and intrigue did it without being convoluted.... and it actually served a purpose in the character development of Renton. The idea that he was kept out of the loop for being a child, and his discover of the truth and becoming a responsible adult as a result of growing and learning. So some of the trip-pier scub knowledge stuff made sense in the end.

The time travel aspect of Eureka Seven Ao just made the series come undone. Characters that were developed just disappear, making learning about them irrelevant... other characters completely change roles mid way through the series with little to know explanation for it.

We all know Maggie switched over to the other side as a result of the first time burst, but why even bother having her in the show after it, if it's treated as if it's a cameo. They should've just written her out.

Same could be said for Truth...

At the end of the day the whole Time Travel/Alternate Universe element of the show just kind of negates the entire show. A certain character even asserts that point to Ao at the end.
That's just the first problem. All though most of the other issues with the series stem from that one.

Basically the show spends so much time waffling about what it's doing that there is no pay off. Who is Ao's love interest, what are the relationships that are important to him, who are the people that are important to him.... basically nothing was ever developed significantly. There was a serious lack of direction with the series, and it was all over the place.

The show didn't even have a clear sort of concept... it wasn't about Ao growing up, or becoming an adult... it wasn't about him achieving understanding with Naru... or the scubs... or anything. It wasn't about him eventually getting to be with his family and learning about who he is and where he comes from. It just didn't have a point to it.

And I think that's what it comes down to... I think a lot of people who have watched the show this far, to the end here.... they are just like "What did I just watch? What was it even about?".

I will say this... the show had some great animation, it had some wonderful moments (mind you a lot of the highlights come simply from seeing Eureka & Renton onscreen), but the characters were all poorly developed. So if you could put that aside it's entertaining to watch.

Yet no fan of the original Eureka Seven should watch this. It doesn't have any of the same themes or feel to it.

The only thing I can hope for is an actual sequel to Eureka Seven.... and to a certain degree it seems as though they ended it in a way that suggests they could easily avoid ever having to reference the Ao series ever. Again another reason why the ending kind of negates the entire Ao story.

Either way had to get that out of my system. So sad that they couldn't even end the series in a way that gives events in the show any sort of meaning.
Nov 20, 2012 2:30 AM

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Wow Truth really got bet over, he was reduced from the villain to pretty much a sat nav for AO. I enjoyed the series I would give it a 6.5-7/10, the story was so so but the sound track and fights were enjoyable.

I didn't really get the conclusion, I don't get how AO can be back to the world we started in when he stopped Eureka from ever being there, the main downfall for the series was it was getting too complicated with alternate universes I was able to keep up but I felt we could do without it.
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