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Why do you think some truly iconic or at least very popular media either never had anime adaptations or were limited to some rare OVAs or specials? Although almost all fairly popular Japanese franchises have manga or LN adaptations. Is it because they are so popular that they can do without anime? Or do their producers just not think about this possibility at all? Would you like to see some kind of full-fledged anime TV adaptation of franchises like Yakuza or Super Sentai, for example?
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it is the normies pero~ normies are oppressing the dweebs ✧・゚(´ω`*) pero~

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@ChouunShiryuu why do you say pero ?

Is expression of my individuality, tchichouan-dono. Aside from that I really like the teehee pero~ look

I see, it's an onomatopoeia.

@tchitchouan Corrrrrect (˵ ͡~ ͜ʖ. ͡°˵)ノ⌒♡*:・。.
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For anime to be made there needs to be certain factors that come together, like a source material being adaptable in anime, an investor willing to fund the anime, a committee to oversee the anime budget and progress and a studio willing to take up the project, there's a certain synergy between manga publishers and anime studios, but that isn't necessarily the case for VN publishers and even less so with video games developers/publishers or live action tv show runners. So even if a certain IP is acclaimed or popular it doesn't necessarily mean it would get adapted into anime, even high quality manga like Vagabond never got an anime, things like Yakuza could get one since Shenmue got one, but super sentai and kamen rider i highly doubt it because i think they would rather fund another live action show.

@ChouunShiryuu why do you say pero ?
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Anime is more expensive than live action, and the audience does not overlap as much.
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it is the normies pero~ normies are oppressing the dweebs ✧・゚(´ω`*) pero~

tchitchouan said:
@ChouunShiryuu why do you say pero ?

Is expression of my individuality, tchichouan-dono. Aside from that I really like the teehee pero~ look

I see, it's an onomatopoeia.

@tchitchouan Corrrrrect (˵ ͡~ ͜ʖ. ͡°˵)ノ⌒♡*:・。.
@ChouunShiryuu I see, it's an onomatopoeia.
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Anime is more expensive than live action, and the audience does not overlap as much.
@rohan121 So, do you think it's much easier for Yakuza to get a few live action adaptations than to fully adapt a game into a full anime?
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@rohan121 So, do you think it's much easier for Yakuza to get a few live action adaptations than to fully adapt a game into a full anime?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Like_a_Dragon_(film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Like_a_Dragon:_Prologue
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@tchitchouan I only watched the original movie and found it funny, although the plot was a bit fan fiction. I wanted to watch the series as well, but I heard it was quite controversial.
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not everything needs an anime \_<. .>_/
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There's really only one simple answer to this...money.
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@tchitchouan I only watched the original movie and found it funny, although the plot was a bit fan fiction. I wanted to watch the series as well, but I heard it was quite controversial.
@RobertBobert Yeah changes some stuff from the game to make it more "dramatic".

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There's really only one simple answer to this...money.
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Anime is harder to produce than live action from what I know. Also, not all Japanese media needs to be anime.
If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece
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"or Super Sentai"

There many Ultraman and Ultraman adjacent anime, also several related to Kamen Raider...that counts. right?


The answers of why certain franchises were not adapted to manga/anime can be different, like:
- Not appropriate enough. (Some censorship for TV may damage its appeal.)
- Not popular enough any more.
- Too expensive/labour consuming.
- Simply doesn't work in said media.

Lets take Baccano and Durarara. Both took different approaches.
Baccano condensed a lot of books in one single season showing fragments of the puzzle from different points of view. It kind of worked and was well received, but it would be too bothersome to do the same thing again (also not entirely clear if the other books would be suitable for that) with potentially diminishing returns.
Durarara took a more direct and lengthily approach, but the anime viewers became kind of bored in at certain point...not mention the story sort of rebooted itself in the last season, so what was the point and was it even worth it adapting?


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Super Sentai, cast 5 starting actors, agency boosts their acting careers with it. The 3d models of Toys are almost real looking, you see them folding. The suit actors already know how to do their part, monster models, the locations. You can also say Digimon seasons that were more akin to Super Sentai are in the least liked. We have Zoids and Gatchaman too.
So the idea of Super Sentai was animated, the exact Super Sentai series didn't need to.

Most Games are very close to that too, but Capcom and Konami don't seem to manage their IPs with so much protection as Nintendo.

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Maybe the owners don't wanna risk the reputation of their IPs
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We just got another dmc anime last season what are you talking about
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Super Sentai and Kamen Rider are practically live-action cartoons already, so it's not like they really need to be anime. Though there's at least one exception:

https://myanimelist.net/anime/48649/Fuuto_Tantei

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We just got another dmc anime last season what are you talking about
@giantpudding "another DMC ANIME last season" - Devil May Cry has only one anime.
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@giantpudding "another DMC ANIME last season" - Devil May Cry has only one anime.
@RobertBobert Nope, they did a reboot.

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@RobertBobert Nope, they did a reboot.

@giantpudding What reboot? What are you talking about? Even the creator himself called it an original show. That's first. Second, it's not anime. It's Western animation that uses anime as a selling point for Western audiences, while in reality simply using anime-ish stylistics. Even the full-length LOTR cartoon is more anime than this. And it wasn't aired as part of any anime season, you won't find this show on MAL.
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@giantpudding What reboot? What are you talking about? Even the creator himself called it an original show. That's first. Second, it's not anime. It's Western animation that uses anime as a selling point for Western audiences, while in reality simply using anime-ish stylistics. Even the full-length LOTR cartoon is more anime than this. And it wasn't aired as part of any anime season, you won't find this show on MAL.
@RobertBobert prolly didn't want the stink of the old series on it.

That's your opinion. It's officially an anime tho
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@RobertBobert prolly didn't want the stink of the old series on it.

That's your opinion. It's officially an anime tho
@giantpudding "stink like an old series"? Are you now unironically trying to attack an original anime based on a Japanese game to defend a Western non-canon series that is trying to pretend to be anime to sell itself to fans of the Japanese series? I don't care what Netflix calls it, it's not anime and that's obvious. With the same logic you can call Bet "dorama".
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@RobertBobert prolly didn't want the stink of the old series on it.

That's your opinion. It's officially an anime tho
@giantpudding Lowell Patty is definitely a bummer both for existing and for not returning, but that Lady dialogue was better than the new Lady.

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@giantpudding "stink like an old series"? Are you now unironically trying to attack an original anime based on a Japanese game to defend a Western non-canon series that is trying to pretend to be anime to sell itself to fans of the Japanese series? I don't care what Netflix calls it, it's not anime and that's obvious. With the same logic you can call Bet "dorama".
@RobertBobert It's not pretending, you are. It's officially listed as an anime. You should move on
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@RobertBobert It's not pretending, you are. It's officially listed as an anime. You should move on
@giantpudding Again, Netflix can call it whatever they want. That doesn't make it anime. Simple. It's just a lazy publicity stunt and you fell for it.
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@giantpudding Again, Netflix can call it whatever they want. That doesn't make it anime. Simple. It's just a lazy publicity stunt and you fell for it.
@RobertBobert Who's talking about Netflix
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@RobertBobert Who's talking about Netflix
@giantpudding Who? Dude, Adi Shankar's DMC is a Netflix project. You literally posted a poster yourself saying it was a Netflix original.
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Because the target audience wants live action productions sometimes. for example, a good part of the Asian fujodanshi fandom prefers to watch live action, bl dramas based on bl manga/manhwa than to watch bl anime.

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@giantpudding Who? Dude, Adi Shankar's DMC is a Netflix project. You literally posted a poster yourself saying it was a Netflix original.
@RobertBobert I never said Netflix called it anime. You did

Are you confused?
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@RobertBobert I never said Netflix called it anime. You did

Are you confused?
@giantpudding Lol, what? You literally insisted that it was "officially anime" as your main argument. Netflix produced this show and called it anime.
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@giantpudding Lol, what? You literally insisted that it was "officially anime" as your main argument. Netflix produced this show and called it anime.
@RobertBobert Yeah i never said Netflix called it anime. Are you basing it on something i didn't say?
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@giantpudding Again, Netflix can call it whatever they want. That doesn't make it anime. Simple. It's just a lazy publicity stunt and you fell for it.
@RobertBobert Are you just saying it isn't Japanese?
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@RobertBobert Yeah i never said Netflix called it anime. Are you basing it on something i didn't say?
@giantpudding Then who "officially called it anime"? Only creators can somehow officially position their content.

@valico Yes, because it is a non-canon Western adaptation of a Japanese franchise.
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@giantpudding Then who "officially called it anime"? Only creators can somehow officially position their content.

@valico Yes, because it is a non-canon Western adaptation of a Japanese franchise.
@RobertBobert Yes we've been waiting to hear where you got this from:

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Netflix produced this show and called it anime.

Are you going to tell us?
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@RobertBobert Yes we've been waiting to hear where you got this from:

RobertBobert said:
Netflix produced this show and called it anime.

Are you going to tell us?
@giantpudding Are you trolling me? Do you seriously not understand why I am saying that Netflix is ​​the one marketing this as an anime because it is a Netflix show? If this show was created by the Russian Soyuzmultfilm, you would be asking why I think Soyuzmultfilm is positioning it like this? Or do you think some random people made Netflix name their shows something like that?
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Not everything should and can be adapted to anime, look at for example every manga that is grounded in realism and those photorealistic manga can be perfectly be translated in to live action. There are many great live action adaptations based on the manga that translated very well like gintama, kingdom, ruroni kenshin and more.

Also there are multiple factors going on when adapting long running manga/written source in to tv anime such as the avaible staff that would able to take the commitment of adapting long story in to long running anime alongside other things.


Yakuza as a tv anime would be already by default mediocore/below mediocore considering that already when playing this video game is like watching high production values interactive long running live action tv show.
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Not everything should and can be adapted to anime, look at for example every manga that is grounded in realism and those photorealistic manga can be perfectly be translated in to live action. There are many great live action adaptations based on the manga that translated very well like gintama, kingdom, ruroni kenshin and more.

Also there are multiple factors going on when adapting long running manga/written source in to tv anime such as the avaible staff that would able to take the commitment of adapting long story in to long running anime alongside other things.


Yakuza as a tv anime would be already by default mediocore/below mediocore considering that already when playing this video game is like watching high production values interactive long running live action tv show.
@jacobPOL The Japanese have already made two films and a TV series, but they were at best "loosely based". The first movie captured the atmosphere but made the plot even more delusional, and the TV series changed the characters' motivations too much. For example, Kiryu becomes a yakuza out of a desire to be cool instead of protecting the orphanage.
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@jacobPOL The Japanese have already made two films and a TV series, but they were at best "loosely based". The first movie captured the atmosphere but made the plot even more delusional, and the TV series changed the characters' motivations too much. For example, Kiryu becomes a yakuza out of a desire to be cool instead of protecting the orphanage.
@RobertBobert Sadly there will be some adaptations being the way they are but in general there is universal agreement in gaming community that almost all adaptations based on video games are bad and how they are impossible to translate especially that interactible nature of video games but also enviromental storytelling that is in many of the video games that is hard to translate.

Look at for example the last of us hbo adaptation and how empty the adaptation was in comparison to the original video game.
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@RobertBobert Sadly there will be some adaptations being the way they are but in general there is universal agreement in gaming community that almost all adaptations based on video games are bad and how they are impossible to translate especially that interactible nature of video games but also enviromental storytelling that is in many of the video games that is hard to translate.

Look at for example the last of us hbo adaptation and how empty the adaptation was in comparison to the original video game.
@jacobPOL Are you talking about the failed second season or the first one too?
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@jacobPOL Are you talking about the failed second season or the first one too?
@RobertBobert both, except episode 3 of season 1 which I liked how they adapted the bill segment in hbo adaptation everything else is meh, lack of proper build up of relationship between joel ellie and sam and henry. But especially part 2 how much they butchered ellie as a character the character that at first made people go to
to then later ellie becoming more emptier does not knew what she was doing anymore that also led people to question ellie's actions which is non existent in second season also they literally spoiled what will happen to
and more things.
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@RobertBobert both, except episode 3 of season 1 which I liked how they adapted the bill segment in hbo adaptation everything else is meh, lack of proper build up of relationship between joel ellie and sam and henry. But especially part 2 how much they butchered ellie as a character the character that at first made people go to
to then later ellie becoming more emptier does not knew what she was doing anymore that also led people to question ellie's actions which is non existent in second season also they literally spoiled what will happen to
and more things.
@jacobPOL What do you think of the live-action adaptation of One Piece? I heard it was good, not least because of Oda's direct involvement.
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@jacobPOL What do you think of the live-action adaptation of One Piece? I heard it was good, not least because of Oda's direct involvement.
@RobertBobert Live action is great is loyal and accurate adaptation, I like a lot how they portrayed many of the events like buggy the clown in live action with taking full use of direction, acting is great very spot on to the manga counterpart, Inaki Godoi is literally embodiement of luffy in real life even Oda sensei basically said that no one couldn't capture luffy other than Inaki, I also like how they incorporated future storylines elements that were in development during when act 1 and act 2 was published but since these two are completed thus also most storylines were also completed how they incorporated them in to the story early on, I like what they were doing like the anime adaptation on focusing on one of the main character early on of east blue saga that played crucial role later in the manga of east blue the first saga (or first part), they captured spirits of one piece very well. I like it, I recommend.
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@jacobPOL What do you think of the live-action adaptation of One Piece? I heard it was good, not least because of Oda's direct involvement.
@RobertBobert Also I wish vagabond manga by Inoue takehiko would be adapted to live action tv series considering how this series how photorealistic it is that it will automatically perfectly translate in to live action and especially directed in the style of akira kurosawa that would be perfection. For example ghost of tsushima video game was directed in the style of akira kurosawa and thanks to this how breathtaking the game was that when walking the areas I had to stop walking several times just to observe the breathtaking scenery. And I can see that when vagabond will be adapted to live action tv series. Look at this page of the manga

this is as if this was hand painted documentary of the real life figure which is actually the case considering vagabond manga is the adaptation based on "musashi" novel by Eiji Yoshikawa which was fictionalized adaptation of legendary samurai Miyamoto Musashi.
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@RobertBobert Live action is great is loyal and accurate adaptation, I like a lot how they portrayed many of the events like buggy the clown in live action with taking full use of direction, acting is great very spot on to the manga counterpart, Inaki Godoi is literally embodiement of luffy in real life even Oda sensei basically said that no one couldn't capture luffy other than Inaki, I also like how they incorporated future storylines elements that were in development during when act 1 and act 2 was published but since these two are completed thus also most storylines were also completed how they incorporated them in to the story early on, I like what they were doing like the anime adaptation on focusing on one of the main character early on of east blue saga that played crucial role later in the manga of east blue the first saga (or first part), they captured spirits of one piece very well. I like it, I recommend.
@jacobPOL I only wonder when they will get further in to the story live action I wonder how they gonna adapt those more disturbing/grusome things that were happening in the story of one piece.
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@giantpudding Are you trolling me? Do you seriously not understand why I am saying that Netflix is ​​the one marketing this as an anime because it is a Netflix show? If this show was created by the Russian Soyuzmultfilm, you would be asking why I think Soyuzmultfilm is positioning it like this? Or do you think some random people made Netflix name their shows something like that?
@RobertBobert No i'm asking. You should be able to easily prove that, right?

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Do you seriously not understand why I am saying that Netflix is ​​the one marketing this as an anime because it is a Netflix show?

Are you going to show us?
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@RobertBobert No i'm asking. You should be able to easily prove that, right?

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Do you seriously not understand why I am saying that Netflix is ​​the one marketing this as an anime because it is a Netflix show?

Are you going to show us?
@giantpudding So, you are indeed trolling me, okay. I almost bought it, but when you deliberately ignored my question "if Netflix doesn't market its own original shows, then who does?", it all became too obvious. Goodbye.

@jacobPOL Well, I don't see a problem with that. We have a lot of anime with relatively very realistic character designs.
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@giantpudding What reboot? What are you talking about? Even the creator himself called it an original show. That's first. Second, it's not anime. It's Western animation that uses anime as a selling point for Western audiences, while in reality simply using anime-ish stylistics. Even the full-length LOTR cartoon is more anime than this. And it wasn't aired as part of any anime season, you won't find this show on MAL.
@RobertBobert actually what sometimes makes me question mal guidelines when it comes to the anime is that many of people do not realize that a lot of foreign directors such as from south korea, china and also outside works on anime and also many anime studios outsource a lot of their anime to chinese studios, the same thing with animators many of them are foreign freelancers from south korea, china, taiwan, france and us. For example look at dandandan second season is directed by Abel Góngora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandadan whom is not Japanese and somehow got approved on mal, the same thing also with many freelance animators that are working on one piece are also non japanese, jujutsu kaisen season 1 was directed by korean director sunghoo park, many of hunter x hunter 2011 episodes were directed by korean directors, and boruto a lot of episodes were outsorced entirely to chineese studios.

Many of the iconic anime scenes of the modern era anime were animated by non Japanese like

https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/267328

https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/188939

https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/255358

And more, like you can see mal guidelines on what anime can be aprooved are very inconsistent.
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@giantpudding So, you are indeed trolling me, okay. I almost bought it, but when you deliberately ignored my question "if Netflix doesn't market its own original shows, then who does?", it all became too obvious. Goodbye.

@jacobPOL Well, I don't see a problem with that. We have a lot of anime with relatively very realistic character designs.
@RobertBobert Oh ok so you just made that shit up. Thanks for letting everyone know.
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@RobertBobert actually what sometimes makes me question mal guidelines when it comes to the anime is that many of people do not realize that a lot of foreign directors such as from south korea, china and also outside works on anime and also many anime studios outsource a lot of their anime to chinese studios, the same thing with animators many of them are foreign freelancers from south korea, china, taiwan, france and us. For example look at dandandan second season is directed by Abel Góngora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandadan whom is not Japanese and somehow got approved on mal, the same thing also with many freelance animators that are working on one piece are also non japanese, jujutsu kaisen season 1 was directed by korean director sunghoo park, many of hunter x hunter 2011 episodes were directed by korean directors, and boruto a lot of episodes were outsorced entirely to chineese studios.

Many of the iconic anime scenes of the modern era anime were animated by non Japanese like

https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/267328

https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/188939

https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/255358

And more, like you can see mal guidelines on what anime can be aprooved are very inconsistent.
@jacobPOL I think the difference here is between bringing in Korean and generally non-Japanese studios for Japanese shows and shows that are completely non-Japanese shows. Especially when we're not really talking about anime, but anime-inspired shows. At the same time, we have Western shows made by Japanese people, like the recent Lord of the Rings movie, which was essentially a Japanese-American collaboration. I think you can easily feel the difference between the Netflix series and the Warner movie. The latter, out of context, almost completely looks like anime.

@giantpudding Sorry, it's not my style to feed trolls who ask deliberately absurd questions just to catch me at my word when I obviously refuse to answer. Until you tell me who is positioning ORIGINAL Netflix shows instead of Netflix themselves, I will ignore any attempts you make to bait me.
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@jacobPOL I think the difference here is between bringing in Korean and generally non-Japanese studios for Japanese shows and shows that are completely non-Japanese shows. Especially when we're not really talking about anime, but anime-inspired shows. At the same time, we have Western shows made by Japanese people, like the recent Lord of the Rings movie, which was essentially a Japanese-American collaboration. I think you can easily feel the difference between the Netflix series and the Warner movie. The latter, out of context, almost completely looks like anime.

@giantpudding Sorry, it's not my style to feed trolls who ask deliberately absurd questions just to catch me at my word when I obviously refuse to answer. Until you tell me who is positioning ORIGINAL Netflix shows instead of Netflix themselves, I will ignore any attempts you make to bait me.
@RobertBobert I still think devil may cry 2025 series should be aprooved on mal considering that one, there was one episode director Min-sun Kim worked on a lot of hunter x hunter 2011 as episode director https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_%C3%97_Hunter_(2011_TV_series), also studio mir has produced lookism series that was based on webtoon yet this adaptation got aprooved as anime on mal https://myanimelist.net/anime/53149/Oemojisangjuui . The very same studio that is currently working on the adaptation based on Japanese video game, devil may cry.
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