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I'm discussing yuri edgelords. I notice a common pattern between the best and edgiest female edgelord protagonists, which is that they have yuri undertones.




I have no conditions aside from the protagonist being an actual edgelord in personality and behaviour, as well as the story having some kind of power fantasy structure.

Some ideas for a yuri harem:

- Battle maid, "goshujin-sama", "ojou-sama", "master" anything is fine, but the dress is pastel pink or blue because that's kawaii
- Catgirl or Fox girl, if its a foxgirl she will be 750 years old and the deity of a local shrine, or 15 and embarrassed that people keep mistaking her for a deity
-A clumsy girl that messes things up for everyone, she is bullied by the plot and almost gets piked or killed in various ways and vomits and pisses herself, but that makes her pull through in situations where everyone else gives up.
- A rival as equally Diva as the protagonist that's only a rival to have an excuse to be close to her, "They don't understand you like I do!", "ch-chotto matte ikanaide!"
- A kuudere, the final form of moe.
- An assertive pervert girl with airhead personality
-Imouto, "onee-chan!", or one of those gropy "Onee-sama~" trope girls if that's what you prefer.





If you can't watch anything without fanservice here's my personal suggestion (Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash + High Kicks)



Or would you like it without any yuri or fanservice, just the protagonist doing her thing?

Or would you like something I haven't discussed?



Tell me, what would it take to appeal to you guys?
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FUCK I WASNT DONE WHAT THE HELL im gonna have to edit it now
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Aug 2, 7:59 AM
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There's no female edgelord, it's called edgelady.
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@Absurdo_N can you explain what the hell this is
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@Absurdo_N can you explain what the hell this is
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An overpowered girl who turns men into women just to stick her dick in them, she also has a masochistic slutty man to torture, however she is a lesbian (??) it is a manga full of scenes of women and men being penetrated.

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An overpowered girl who turns men into women just to stick her dick in them, she also has a masochistic slutty man to torture, however she is a lesbian (??) it is a manga full of scenes of women and men being penetrated.
@Absurdo_N That seems really funny thank you
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@joou-sama

An overpowered girl who turns men into women just to stick her dick in them, she also has a masochistic slutty man to torture, however she is a lesbian (??) it is a manga full of scenes of women and men being penetrated.
@Absurdo_N

This manga brings together almost all fetishes, from yaoi and lolicon to overpowered milfs, transsexual milfs, gender bender, futanari, femdom, maledom, magical girls, idols, traps, hot old men, rape, tentacles, zoophilia with dragons, xenophilia, teratophilia, bishounen, bishoujo, pegging, incest, age gap, etc.

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joou-sama said:
yuri edgelords

https://myanimelist.net/character/199429/Kiwi_Araga
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@Absurdo_N

This manga brings together almost all fetishes, from yaoi and lolicon to overpowered milfs, transsexual milfs, gender bender, futanari, femdom, maledom, magical girls, idols, traps, hot old men, rape, tentacles, zoophilia with dragons, xenophilia, teratophilia, bishounen, bishoujo, pegging, incest, age gap, etc.
@Absurdo_N I love what comes out of freedom of expression



I like the protagonist of Kyochuu Rettou and her knowledge of bugs

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joou-sama said:
no female edgelord power fantasy protagonist...


You are asking for a very specific shit here in a medium that is mostly about Japanese Manga and light novel sales in Japan. "Riddle Story of Devil" was actually adapted into an anime series which comes very close to something you were wanting more of, but it didn’t gain much traction, and there was never a fucking wave of clones like you'd expect if it had struck a nerve. The anime didn’t even move the needle on its manga sales.

There is just likely not a big enough of a market in Japan for shit like a female "edgelord" power fantasies with yuri undertones. At least not in the way male edgelord leads like Guts or Ainz are framed. Most publishers won’t take that the fucking risk unless there’s clear demand, and unfortunately, that niche is likely almost invisible in the Japanese domestic market. If it doesn't sell figures, merch, or Blu-rays, it dies fast.

Your idea isn’t wrong, it’s just ahead of the curve I guess. The pieces are all there in scattered works (Satou, Esdeath, Lucifer from Nanatsu no Taizai), but they’re rarely the main character, and even more rarely allowed to go full power fantasy without being “balanced” by guilt, trauma, or romance.

You’re not crazy. You’re just looking for something that isn't popular enough for this medium to be flooded with it to the point where a bunch of online Western 'Fans', that most likely pirate Anime in the 1st place, to start bitching and whining about such Anime even existing in the 1st place. lol


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The usual female power fantasy is becoming rich marrying chad.
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The closest I can think of is a delinquent girl. Do you like delinquents?
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ColourWheel said:
You are asking for a very specific shit here in a medium that is mostly about Japanese Manga and light novel sales in Japan. "Riddle Story of Devil" was actually adapted into an anime series which comes very close to something you were wanting more of, but it didn’t gain much traction, and there was never a fucking wave of clones like you'd expect if it had struck a nerve. The anime didn’t even move the needle on its manga sales.

There is just likely not a big enough of a market in Japan for shit like a female "edgelord" power fantasies with yuri undertones. At least not in the way male edgelord leads like Guts or Ainz are framed. Most publishers won’t take that the fucking risk unless there’s clear demand, and unfortunately, that niche is likely almost invisible in the Japanese domestic market. If it doesn't sell figures, merch, or Blu-rays, it dies fast.

Your idea isn’t wrong, it’s just ahead of the curve I guess. The pieces are all there in scattered works (Satou, Esdeath, Lucifer from Nanatsu no Taizai), but they’re rarely the main character, and even more rarely allowed to go full power fantasy without being “balanced” by guilt, trauma, or romance.


This is entirely true. I lost all my realistic expectations when I found out that Joou-Heika no Isekai Strategy got axed. Which has an actual female "edgelord" power fantasy or protagonist. Even if a similar manga existed, it would probably suffer the same fate. Which is what made me look through webnovels in the first place.



ColourWheel said:
You’re not crazy. You’re just looking for something that isn't popular enough for this medium to be flooded with it to the point where a bunch of online Western 'Fans', that most likely pirate Anime in the 1st place, to start bitching and whining about such Anime even existing in the 1st place. lol


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rohan121 said:
The usual female power fantasy is becoming rich marrying chad.


I wouldn't mind if she flexed how she's rich and married to chad with her new designer bag, since I like drama, which is also not a thing.

Lucifrost said:
The closest I can think of is a delinquent girl. Do you like delinquents?


I like sukeban specifically, but I currently have more student council members I like.

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rohan121 said:
The usual female power fantasy is becoming rich marrying chad.


I wouldn't mind if she flexed how she's rich and married to chad with her new designer bag, since I like drama, which is also not a thing.

Lucifrost said:
The closest I can think of is a delinquent girl. Do you like delinquents?


I like sukeban specifically, but I currently have more student council members I like.

@joou-sama
Though I am not well versed in the sukeban genre, I am a fan of the 1st sukeban manga.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/2726/Sukeban_Deka
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Imagine Redo of Healer but Keyaru being female, absolute fucking peak.
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frieren, apothecary diaries, elaina, takopii and many many more already exist and are being made
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Catalano said:
frieren, apothecary diaries, elaina, takopii and many many more already exist and are being made


I like all these kinds of anime and their protagonists, they're not the same thing but they have the basic appeal. A random trivia of mine, I played a mobile game called Legend of the Phoenix which was pretty much the same thing as apothecary diaries without the poison testing, it's a whole genre I was already a fan of since I liked Xianxia/Wuxia. I used to have an obsession with witches way back too.



Zarutaku said:
Imagine Redo of Healer but Keyaru being female, absolute fucking peak.


I've had this exact thought before. Sick of lame revenge like in Fukushuu Kyoushitsu and other stories where she goes through the worst trauma possible only to have a reasonable revenge, it doesn't even feel like revenge anymore but plain justice, the actual bare minimum. Reading this is depressing not fun because it just reminds you she's a victim. Redo of a healer anime is the total opposite and never got boring.


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I like Saiunkoku and watched a bit of Apothecary Diaries hoping for something similar, but I did not like it.

I recently played an actual Chinese game called "The Hungry Lamb." I doubt the lead girl is the edgelord you're looking for, but the story is really good and emotional!
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@joou-sama

An overpowered girl who turns men into women just to stick her dick in them, she also has a masochistic slutty man to torture, however she is a lesbian (??) it is a manga full of scenes of women and men being penetrated.
@Absurdo_N Sounds like a banger, pun intended
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It’s manga not anime & I’ve only read the first 2 volumes, but this might check some your boxes
https://myanimelist.net/manga/65705/Murci%C3%A9lago


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I like the idea of this in general, partly because you're correct in that it hasn't ever been explored from the POV of a protagonist, and partly because I'm attracted to those types of women. I'd absolutely watch an anime about a powerful edgelord female protagonist. There are side-characters like this here and there (Homura, Esdeath, Medeka, etc.) but none of them really get the spotlight. I'd suggest checking out Mato Seihei no Slave, which comes pretty close (minus the Yuri undertones).
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joou-sama said:
Yanderes in general attract female edgelords, like the yandere simulator and mirai nikki craze, everyone was obsessed with yuno and ayano.


She's not a yandere, but I forgot to mention Rena was also super popular with this crowd.



Ohayotaku said:
It’s manga not anime & I’ve only read the first 2 volumes, but this might check some your boxes
https://myanimelist.net/manga/65705/Murci%C3%A9lago


I remember reading a chapter of this of this a while back, it is pretty fitting from what I remember.

MadHobbit2 said:
I'd suggest checking out Mato Seihei no Slave, which comes pretty close (minus the Yuri undertones).


I watched it around the time it aired, I gave it an 8/10 which makes it in my top 10 ecchi currently.


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MadHobbit2 said:
There are side-characters like this here and there (Homura, Esdeath, Medeka, etc.) but none of them really get the spotlight.


Homura is a side character but she totally gets the spotlight in Rebellion, it's on my list as my #1 anime (because it is).

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Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka is something you are looking for.
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Well I don't know how well it fits your criteria exactly but Roll Over And Die is getting an anime adaptation at some point in the future and at least from the PVs they've released and the synopsis, it sounds fairly edgy.
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Interesting topic, and the GIFs are good, and someone here recomend Akuma no Riddle, after anime just have to read the final chapters of the manga for a great yuri ending.
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All that I really have to say on this is that I've noticed a lot more of the edgy yuri protagonist tends to skew towards more of a male audience, but that isn't really surprising when the regular edgy female characters are in anime more male audience dominated. The major exception would be the villainess genre but lets be honest that genre isn't that edgy.

This reminds me though we need a redo of healer but women protag instead. Although that one high school magical girl anime that came out a couple of years ago might fit the bill.
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i'm with you on a lot of this, but not on everything. i really like female main characters and have also enjoyed a lot of 'edgy' protagonists, so more shows that marry these two would be welcomed for sure, but for me it doesn't really have to be yuri (still can be though) and i definitely wouldn't want it to be a harem, as i enjoy ships that actually pan out and i feel like harem elements usually stop a substantial relationship from developing due to obvious reasons.

so i guess more isekai or dark fantasy shows with a female lead that aren't only villainess anime? i think something like reincarnated as a sword kind of qualifies, though that has the titular sword character who was a dude, but the catgirl who's also a main character is not that far off from this i think, she definitely has edgelord characteristics and moments.

regardless, i wish you luck with getting the kind of show you want.
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