Which these two extreme love interests would you prefer?
| I recently watched ep 3 of Watanare where Mai sexually assaults Renako (even in the previous episode she forcibly kissed her) and everyone is calling it hot/spicy and there was one person who pointed out the SA scene and was immediately called names by another user for doing so. I'm also in an ongoing argument with a fujo where she absolutely refuses to accept that sex without consent is called rape saying that I'm trying to demonize a healthy relationship and how it's wrong to use any slurs against a queer character in 2025 (because LGBT people have extra rights to rape others apparently and should never be criticized for it!). She also went on and started blaming my favorite character calling it a toxic and problematic relationship even though the character is respectful of the MC's boundaries and has never done anything untoward to him. Then there's Hana yori Dango where Domyouji who sexually assaults Makino and the anime even shows Makino trembling in fear as Domyouji approaches her but the series is considered a shoujo classic with multiple drama adaptations. And again when I was watching it I saw comments defending Domyouji's actions and when another character gets close to Makino he immediately gets hated by the fans. On the other hand you have Hananoi-kun to Koi no Yamai which aired few seasons ago where everyone was complaining about how toxic the relationship between Hanoni and Hotaru is even though Hanaoi didn't do anything to hurt or harm Hotaru, he was just trying extra hard to please Hotaru which I don't consider manipulative in any way as some other users claim. These are just a few examples but I've noticed that anime fans tend to levitate towards defending toxic relationships and trying to nitpick perfectly fine relationships. Now I don't care if you have a rape fetish or think that non-con/dub-con stuff is hot but can you please keep it to yourself instead of attacking others who dare to point out or dislike such content? Why must people be called names like "snowflake", "moralist", "prude" or "homophobic" (in case of BL/GL) for not liking this type of content specially when it comes without warning (like Watanare is marked as PG-13 so I wasn't expecting that scene)? |
| I have no problem with either type, but I prefer violent, toxic and bloodthirsty ships. I am fully aware that harassment and abuse in life are wrong and criminal, but it is fun to see a girl raping male characters in anime;_; "I'm also in an ongoing argument with a fujo where she absolutely refuses to accept that sex without consent is called rape" This reminds me of when you talked about a so-called 'light rape', what the hell is that? You will probably suffer attacks, so my condolences. You are constantly suffering misogynistic attacks from users who defend yaoi/ecchi, this is very bizarre. |
| "Which these two extreme love interests would you prefer?" "I love you so much I'd sacrifice my life for you" |
| Some people are just too timid to say yes, they need a lovely push to overcome their shyness. |
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| Neither, really, but the former is obviously worse than the latter. But why do you bother arguing in the first place? There are titles out there that cater to certain fetishes. And it is obvious that their target audience will defend these fetishes, no matter how weird they are and no amount of arguments soll change that. Just watch what you enjoy and br glad you are not one of those weirdos - and they will probe think the same about you. |
| People have grown way too comfortable on the internet, especially during and after the COVID 19 pandemic. This isn't targeted towards you but, "I love you so much I'd rape you" what the fuck? If any woman were to tell me that, I'd file a restraining order against her. Anyone who would go as far as to rape needs therapy more than they need that person. |
| If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece |
Absurdo_N said: it is fun to see a girl raping male characters Based and reverse rape-pilled 😂 |
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| I find it weird that fans rank the toxicity of the men in Amnesia when they all suck. I am most disgusted by Shin. |
| その目だれの目？ |
| I don't mind if the character with the toxic behaviour is called out and they themselves make the effort to be better. But it's usually only after the victim has been stockholmed into the relationship that they show any signs of improving and somehow that's deemed a good and romantic ending. Like no thank you. I don't want the abuser getting what they want and not learning a thing from it. |
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| Are these the same people Watanare in particular I find it hard to believe that they also watched A Condition Called Love I can't speak to any of these shows because I haven't seen them but in general, I would imagine that they're 2 different people complaining about ["normal" relationship] and defending [toxic relationship] As for the poll, we need yanderes to come back, give us more Anna Nishikinomiyas, raaaaah EDIT: I think it's also worth noting: 1. There are people who will fight tooth and nail to defend Dandadan's SA scenes, there are just genuinely a not insignificant number of people into SA in the anime community 2. You might be stepping into husbando wars with something like Boys Over Flowers. I can't speak to the content of that anime but it might be possible that they already grew to like and care for Domyouji pre-SA and have rose-tinted glasses for him. |
Supersonic_PainJul 27, 11:33 AM
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Why do anime fans no, not "anime fans". a handful of weirdos. some people are just weird, and that's fine. as long as they don't hurt anybody, just let them be. don't get hung up on the 1% who are into weird shit. |
| those are insufferable people you would be an idiot to pay heed to their words. also never thought i would see rape and love in the same sentence. wild. |
 The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama. Feeling half happy, half sad. Kawaii waifus and precious best girls <3333 |
| Probably a mix of those fans being part of different groups and certain people not wanting to accept that the thing they like is weird but being willing to judge others? Idk, different people have different tolerance levels for what they deem morally questionable in anime. Some people don't want anything that could even be read as kinda weird so they react with rage or discomfort or an emotion in that realm when there's a relationship dynamic that's not 100% wholesome, while other people love weird or degenerate stuff but have some kind of complex about it that makes them get defensive when anyone says it's kinda weird or offputting. |
| There isn't much complexity in anime. What exactly is there to analyse in anime? |
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| Many reasons. Bias, attempt to even the ground against what they feel are holier-than-thou attitudes, different expectations for healthy and toxic ships, different interpretations, being different people... Canon ships also have a buff that makes some people think that just because they're canon and the author says it's a happy ending for them then that ship is perfect. And I don't think this is an anime fan thing. I've seen this happening in every kind of romance I've consumed. Personally, I enjoy both healthy and toxic ships so I've seen those discussions from both sides. The people wanting 100% moral purity from every story, the people with such bizarre interpretations that it seems they are talking about a different story, the people confidently claiming their ship is 100% pure when it obviously isn't... They are all tiring. It's one of the reasons I often regret looking at other people's opinions. "Which these two extreme love interests would you prefer?" The second because the first is obviously horrible outside of fantasies, but the sacrificing type isn't that great either depending on how they go about it. |
| I don't want my favourite characters to die, I want them to live. So what about "I love you so much I'd stay alive for your sake"? |
| With some of these, I think you're looking too much into it. If the writer doesn't intend to make a point when it comes to what you call problematic behaviour, then the characters are not going to behave in a way, reflect or develop in a way that makes that discussion worthwhile for me in the first place. Apothecary Diaries and the main relationship in that is a good example. |
| Of course the second one! Just please don't look at my manga favorites, because that'll reveal that the first sentence was a lie. White angels have no wings is a masterpiece. |
| Dying for someone is not healthy for the involved. And it sucks for the future of the relationship. Stealing a kiss is not rape. But it is a way of saying I think you know less about your feelings than me. And the future might actually be better than the 1st case. Some people do lack initiative. So in a twisted way, the first is actually worse because you gave me two bad options. Why can't you talk about a show where the romance dance moves go balanced and healthy like Yubisaki to renren ? ps: Some people fantasize receiving SA, some even like not having control without seizing it. People who like Enemies to lovers are the ones who never dated in RL, and so it is not what they prefer, is what they think they prefer. |
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| I don't understand how anyone can say Renako slapping Mai isn't justified. Literally the point of the scene is to remind Mai about boundaries and consent. And toxic relationships in anime are there for people to criticize, mostly. |
"Nobody could laugh at someone who's trying their hardest" -Machio- |
Reply to Sasori56483
Dying for someone is not healthy for the involved. And it sucks for the future of the relationship.
Stealing a kiss is not rape. But it is a way of saying I think you know less about your feelings than me. And the future might actually be better than the 1st case. Some people do lack initiative.
So in a twisted way, the first is actually worse because you gave me two bad options. Why can't you talk about a show where the romance dance moves go balanced and healthy like Yubisaki to renren ?
ps: Some people fantasize receiving SA, some even like not having control without seizing it. People who like Enemies to lovers are the ones who never dated in RL, and so it is not what they prefer, is what they think they prefer.
Stealing a kiss is not rape. But it is a way of saying I think you know less about your feelings than me. And the future might actually be better than the 1st case. Some people do lack initiative.
So in a twisted way, the first is actually worse because you gave me two bad options. Why can't you talk about a show where the romance dance moves go balanced and healthy like Yubisaki to renren ?
ps: Some people fantasize receiving SA, some even like not having control without seizing it. People who like Enemies to lovers are the ones who never dated in RL, and so it is not what they prefer, is what they think they prefer.
| @Sasori56483 I think you twisted that a bit, I'm pretty sure that was meant in the heroic sacrifice kind of way and not intentionally traumatising your loved one by dying on them. |
Reply to Sasori56483
Dying for someone is not healthy for the involved. And it sucks for the future of the relationship.
Stealing a kiss is not rape. But it is a way of saying I think you know less about your feelings than me. And the future might actually be better than the 1st case. Some people do lack initiative.
So in a twisted way, the first is actually worse because you gave me two bad options. Why can't you talk about a show where the romance dance moves go balanced and healthy like Yubisaki to renren ?
ps: Some people fantasize receiving SA, some even like not having control without seizing it. People who like Enemies to lovers are the ones who never dated in RL, and so it is not what they prefer, is what they think they prefer.
Stealing a kiss is not rape. But it is a way of saying I think you know less about your feelings than me. And the future might actually be better than the 1st case. Some people do lack initiative.
So in a twisted way, the first is actually worse because you gave me two bad options. Why can't you talk about a show where the romance dance moves go balanced and healthy like Yubisaki to renren ?
ps: Some people fantasize receiving SA, some even like not having control without seizing it. People who like Enemies to lovers are the ones who never dated in RL, and so it is not what they prefer, is what they think they prefer.
Sasori56483 said: balanced and healthy like Yubisaki to renren The guy in that show boldly head patted the girl without consent on first and second encounter, even though he was a complete stranger to her. |
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| I remember reading that non-con in anime and manga series (particularly in BL works that are stories about gay men written by women) was born as a way to explore and criticize patriarchal power dynamics while "sanitizing" it by having both characters be males instead of showing it through straight ships. There was a group of female artists called The Year 24 Group, and among them was Keiko Takemiya, author of the infamous Kaze to Ki no Uta, who was really open about this being the point of her works. Of course they went on to inspire other female authors, and no doubt at some point the inclusion of such content in female written works would have prevailed as a means of cheap dramatism that as a critique like Takemiya, Moto Hagio and other authors of its era had intended. But that doesn't mean that we as readers can't enjoy this kind of drama while being critical of it. |
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