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Jul 30, 2021 10:08 PM
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https://stockxpo.com/the-west-embraces-state-subsidies-a-policy-throwback-to-counter-china/

https://headtopics.com/us/the-west-embraces-state-subsidies-a-policy-throwback-to-counter-china-21136297

https://www.wsj.com/articles/subsidies-chips-china-state-aid-biden-11627565906?mod=pls_whats_news_us_business_f

The article for the Wall Street Journal one got edited,lol. Probably to hide the fact that America trying to embrace some aspects of socialism more. (Look at the non WSJ source, was written by the same person as the WSJ one).

https://preview.redd.it/pr5q9nvqu5e71.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=90c64b60ee9ccf76b1f3e1c57bf2ade61f010be8

Anyways about the news, seems like a country is copying another country's homework huh.

"B-but, CaPitAliSM iS grEAt! thE frEeR THe maRkeT thE frEeR THe peOple!!"
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Jul 30, 2021 10:11 PM
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Could you not find a better place on the internet over this past week to flood with your communist garbage?
Jul 30, 2021 10:27 PM
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149597871 said:
Could you not find a better place on the internet over this past week to flood with your communist garbage?
What are you even talking about? I haven't even post anything for like 8 days before today.
Jul 30, 2021 10:33 PM
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MyJudgementIsBad said:
Desolated said:
Probably to hide the fact that America trying to embrace some aspects of socialism more.

So is socialism when the government does stuff or nah?
Well if socialism is when the government does stuff, then I'd say that capitalism is when the corporates does stuff (which also involves lobbying the government means it would end up being the government does stuff in as well, with more likelihood of favouring the lobbyer).
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Jul 30, 2021 10:58 PM
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MyJudgementIsBad said:
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Well if socialism is when the government does stuff, then I'd say that capitalism is when the corporates does stuff (which also involves lobbying the government means it would end up being the government does stuff in as well, with more likelihood of favouring the lobbyer).

Ah I see, that's a bit different from what I usually hear gommies say. They usually define it as "worker ownership of the means of production" or something like that.
Well generally the common knowledge about it among people is something like that yeah. But it's more has to do about who have the most power in workplace, government, etc. For instance if the government consists of workers delegates and that they're the one who makes the country law, that would mean that the law won't be as much in favour of the corporate owner compared to if the one who makes the rules are among the Bourgeoisie themselves, or in a country which lobbying is something legal.
Jul 31, 2021 2:05 AM
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Desolated said:
149597871 said:
Could you not find a better place on the internet over this past week to flood with your communist garbage?
What are you even talking about? I haven't even post anything for like 8 days before today.


That is exactly my point. CE was a much better place during this short period.

"I am here to spread my ideology by any means necessary and to blindly criticize every capitalist/glorify every socialist country."

I mean, there are certainly places on the internet where people would gladly welcome you.
Jul 31, 2021 2:23 AM
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149597871 said:
Desolated said:
What are you even talking about? I haven't even post anything for like 8 days before today.


That is exactly my point. CE was a much better place during this short period.

"I am here to spread my ideology by any means necessary and to blindly criticize every capitalist/glorify every socialist country."

I mean, there are certainly places on the internet where people would gladly welcome you.
I mean, all the news I post here sre literally just something that's being posted in r/sino, or the current events channel in the tankie discord server I'm in.

I just feel like sharing it here as well because sharing is caring <3
Jul 31, 2021 2:49 AM
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The US has always had socialism, but only for the corporations. Privatise the profits, socialise the losses.

You can see it with bank bail outs, carmaker bankruptcies and Boeing.
Jul 31, 2021 9:05 AM
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QPR said:
The US has always had socialism, but only for the corporations. Privatise the profits, socialise the losses.

You can see it with bank bail outs, carmaker bankruptcies and Boeing.


exactly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_welfare

"socialism for the rich, while capitalism for the poor"
Jul 31, 2021 3:59 PM

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deg said:
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The US has always had socialism, but only for the corporations. Privatise the profits, socialise the losses.

You can see it with bank bail outs, carmaker bankruptcies and Boeing.


exactly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_welfare

"socialism for the rich, while capitalism for the poor"


lets not forget my "favorite policy." corporation personhood. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood

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Jul 31, 2021 4:02 PM

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hazarddex said:
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exactly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_welfare

"socialism for the rich, while capitalism for the poor"


lets not forget my "favorite policy." corporation personhood. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood



thats new info to me thanks
Aug 1, 2021 12:23 AM
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And of course all the law suit awards that the US gives to US companies, I don't think I have seen a non US company win a lawsuit against the US in the US.
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hazarddex said:
deg said:


exactly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_welfare

"socialism for the rich, while capitalism for the poor"


lets not forget my "favorite policy." corporation personhood. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood


I like capitalism, but this is where things cross over to abuse. Pretending an organization is a legal person is just a convenient excuse for removing culpability on the people running it. Especially since it grants corporations the ability to "donate" money towards political parties as if they were an individual.
Aug 3, 2021 6:36 AM

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Ah, the platinum classic of trying to give your ideology all the credit for all the right things other side do. Newsflash: improving lives and working conditions of citizens doesn't make a country socialistic.
Also, that fEnCe writing. Cringe. What are you, an edgy teenager? Oh, wait, yes, most of Internet armchair commies are teens and those who still has a teenager mentality.
There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value.

Persona anime are good. Deal with it.
Aug 3, 2021 7:10 AM

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Ah, the platinum classic of trying to give your ideology all the credit for all the right things other side do. Newsflash: improving lives and working conditions of citizens doesn't make a country socialistic.
Also, that fEnCe writing. Cringe. What are you, an edgy teenager? Oh, wait, yes, most of Internet armchair commies are teens and those who still has a teenager mentality.
It doesn't, but it certainly one step back from the so-called "free market utopia".

Keynesian economics is capitalistic, for instance. But it has a fuckton of state controlled market compared to Neoliberalism. And you know what the American love to say now? "Beeg government bad smol government gud". I simply point this out against the pro-free market people here that now that China are catching up with the economy of the American Empire and that the Empire felt they're being threatened, they adopt the "big government" policies, which indicates that planned economy is actually works much much better than the free market. It's just that the latter can satisfy the corporates greed more.
Aug 4, 2021 7:39 AM

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Ah the frse Market.

The More free it is, the less free it actually is.

Seeing the west up its own game instead of being a salty lozer is actually quite nice.
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