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Jul 23, 2019 10:20 AM
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Seems, Hina route ends even not started...
Obviously, both Rui and Natsuo were happy to hear each other. Natsuo spoke about his success in the acting, and even sent his photo to the Rui. Rui says about her interview posted on web. BTW, Hina didn't tell the truth Rui why she's with Natsuo. After a Iphone talk story switched to the Rui and the chefboi, who obviously, more and more attracted to Rui...
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Jul 23, 2019 2:34 PM
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I'm still pretty blind of who's gonna be the endgirl at this point. Hina still hasn't made her move and suddenly Rui calls and still act all blushy while talking with Nat.

Of course i'm still 100% in Team Hina. I don't care what other toxic people say but i believe the later the comeback the better her chance will be.
Jul 23, 2019 6:11 PM
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Well Rui's thoughts at the end show that the first thing she thought of was Natsuo when dad said the winner goes back to Japan. So she's clearly not over him.

We saw the heart thumps from Kajita earlier, but nothing from Rui. I still have hopes that she won't end up with that damn chef boi...
Jul 24, 2019 1:21 AM
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When are we going to get the flipping development for Hina, where is her arc. I swear if people say that was her arc im going to lose it we have had Natsuo and Rui down our throats for so long I'm starting to forget about Hina being one of the Main characters and not a support character danm.

I guess after chapter 70 Sasuga just said fuck Hina lol. It's like in yugioh and Hina said 'what happened to my turn' and Sasuga is like 'you've already had your turn' ( i'm 100% Hina shipper this is why im mad lol).
Jul 24, 2019 4:02 AM
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I'd say at this point Hina is going to back off. She notices how much enjoyment Natsuo has from talking to Rui and I think she still wants to keep the older sister role going as well.

Aww man Rui's reaction to seeing Natsuo in his demon king costume was so freaking adorable <3

Aww hell yeah my girl put those clowns in their place. That Rui smile was perfect!!!


Ah so Rui's dad is bringing back the winner of the Italian contest. I'm interested in where Sasuga will take this story now. Personally I feel like how this chapter ended Sensei wants to finish up this story sooner then later. Kajita just like Miyabi will have his heart broken.
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Jul 24, 2019 8:47 AM
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Natsuo and Rui had such a lovely conversation, it felt like they never broke up. And I’m also really glad that sasuga finally showed how she’s going to return Rui back home to Natsuo. Hina ending seems almost impossible
Jul 24, 2019 9:05 AM
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I dont really get how they just talked so normally. After breaking up. But Im still hoping for NatsuoxRui
Jul 24, 2019 10:46 AM
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Ok so I’m genuinely curious. To the people saying that hina endgame is impossible now or that it’s over now for her, why is that? I really what to know why you think that. I am a hina fan and want her to win so maybe I am biased and am not seeing something but I don’t see how this chapter changed anything for her. It only introduced something that we all knew was going to come eventually which was the sister bowl. Like there are many plausible scenarios where she wins. I’m mean she’s the one holding on to his dream of becoming a novelist at the moment. We all know that no matter what Nat goes through he’s gonna become a novelist at some point as seen in that one future vision ch and if hina is the one holding on to that dream for him it is perfectly plausible her helping him get back to becoming a novelist can reignite there relationship. Not only that, but she’s still holding on to the rings that natsu I once promised to marry with. That’s another plot point that hasn’t been touched. Who knows how natsuo will feel or act when he sees them. And yes I know we had the one ch were hina told natsuo why she really left him but that conversation happened while she was drunk and I don’t think a conversation/plot point as serious as that would fully explored when one of the character is drunk. She is still in it and I don’t think that this chapter did anything to erase that. Sure natsuo was happy talking to rui but what were y’all expecting. I’m mean he moved on already, if he was pouting around or had a meager expression just cuz she called him it would mean he never moved on and it would be really immature of him. As I said all this ch did to me was confirm what I already knew was being set up which was the tachibana bowl. I fully acknowlege how rui could win so I don’t think I need to list them to the rui fans. Maybe I’m being biased which is why I am curious why people think it’s over. Anyways that’s the end of my ted talk lol. Sorry if there’s bad grammer didn’t really feel like rereading this
Jul 24, 2019 11:04 AM
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dabdan43 said:
Ok so I’m genuinely curious. To the people saying that hina endgame is impossible now or that it’s over now for her, why is that? I really what to know why you think that.


Everybody has different opinions, dude. People would interpret what a chapter means to the endgame depending on who they're shipping Nat with. Like i.e for Ruifans this chapter could be some kind of light after the miserable chapter 215/216 that RuixNat still has a huge hope

I'm Hina fans btw, and i suggest don't pay too much attention to other people's opinions because it'd be useless to debate anyway. Also don't forget this is just the beginning of the endgame. Sasuga always gonna make some twists and spiciness in the story. I'm sure she wouldn't let us guess the endgirl easily this early.
Jul 24, 2019 11:11 AM
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Rytakahashi09 said:
dabdan43 said:
Ok so I’m genuinely curious. To the people saying that hina endgame is impossible now or that it’s over now for her, why is that? I really what to know why you think that.


Everybody has different opinions, dude. People would interpret what a chapter means to the endgame depending on who they're shipping Nat with. Like i.e for Ruifans this chapter could be some kind of light after the miserable chapter 215/216 that RuixNat still has a huge hope

I'm Hina fans btw, and i suggest don't pay too much attention to other people's opinions because it'd be useless to debate anyway. Also don't forget this is just the beginning of the endgame. Sasuga always gonna make some twists and spiciness in the story. I'm sure she wouldn't let us guess the endgirl easily this early.

Lol yeah I know it’s based on how people interpret a certain chapter It’s all theory untill the author herself writes and finishes it. I was just genuinely curious if there was a genuine reason ppl were saying it’s over that I could’ve missed because maybe I was being biased towards hina. I don’t mind debating ppl as long as it dosent go in circles or just turn into a screaming contest. But yeah I understand
Jul 24, 2019 12:12 PM

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Suck it chef boi and Hina, good chapter lol
Jul 24, 2019 8:34 PM

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And what happens if chefboi wins the contest? I wonder if he will go meet Natsuo and tell him that he likes Rui. Of course that seems unlikely but I would like it anyway.
Jul 25, 2019 8:39 PM

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I don't really care if Rui gets back together with Natsuo but I hope she doesn't date the chef guy.
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Jul 29, 2019 9:42 PM

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The best love is the one you have to put effort in but judging from all the threads there's tons of people that prefer the safe / easy route girl Hina.

Why though? Do people really prefer a girl that proves no challenge to get? When all you need to get into a relationship is a kiss and asking her out.
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If Hina wins this thing over Rui that would be the most cheapest and boring ending to this story.
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You're damn right, man. I feel the same.
Jul 30, 2019 5:12 AM

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This doesn't make sense at all.Yes, you can move on from a person after breakup. But how can Natsuo be like this, when Rui left him in suicidal state 3-5 months ago?He was talking with her like nothing happened.Entire phonecall was so forced plotwise.
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Jul 30, 2019 4:16 PM
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Freekster said:
The best love is the one you have to put effort in but judging from all the threads there's tons of people that prefer the safe / easy route girl Hina.

Why though? Do people really prefer a girl that proves no challenge to get? When all you need to get into a relationship is a kiss and asking her out.

This story is fictional and the choice of 'best girl' comes from people's own personal preference but I still can't wrap my head around the fact people prefer somebody that gives up her own dream job to be closer to you and basically makes herself your personal love slave. Hina has had very little character progression and basically is worth less than at the start of the story where she had a decent job and outlook in life. In her current state she's basically a housewife that does shitty jobs.

A relationship with somebody that has Hina's traits makes up for one of the most boring type of relationship you can have. It's all lovely and cosy at the start but gets very boring quick because she is not really intriguing and will have little to offer to your personal growth because she is standing still in the matter herself.

The best and longest relationship I've had was with a girl that seemed way out of my league in both academical level and looks. Getting in a relationship with her took effort and she teasingly challenged me to improve myself on several aspects of my life which I still reap the rewards from today. The relationship had all the cosiness, fun and romance you would get from a Hina-type girl but with the added value coming from the challenge which made it a lot more interesting.

If Hina wins this thing over Rui that would be the most cheapest and boring ending to this story.It would mean that a girl that put almost zero effort into personal development and just focused on her love for Natsuo, wins over a girl that finds personal growth equally important to growth of her partner.

A partner that is ambitious motivates you to do better yourself and both having that character trait will have a positive influence on your children as well.


Wow. That's a very thought-out and on point analisis. Congrats.
Jul 30, 2019 8:09 PM

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No! Go away Rui! Shoo
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Aug 4, 2019 3:22 AM
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If you read Sasuga previous work, GE. You'll know who Natsuo will end up with. DnK and GE have many similarities
Mar 23, 2022 1:52 AM

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Whhat I like from this chapter is Rui casual outfit. That's all. The rest is a part for Rui and Kajita, it doesn't matter. But this event who win will back to Japan. And Rui remind about Natsuo again. This will be a family romance complex. Who will win, Natsuo win a lot. Or he will be a harem lel.
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Can Hina have Natsuo for a little bit, please, Rui? Thank you

Freekster said:
The best love is the one you have to put effort in but judging from all the threads there's tons of people that prefer the safe / easy route girl Hina.

Natsuo did put in the effort to earn Hina's love. It just happened over 15 volumes ago. Clearly you forgot though.

Why though? Do people really prefer a girl that proves no challenge to get? When all you need to get into a relationship is a kiss and asking her out.

Even if Natsuo didn't need to "challenge" himself to earn Hina's love (he still did), this is just the dumbest take ever. Hina is bad because... Natsuo can kiss her and she would enjoy it? A girl is only worth something if she plays hard-to-get?

This story is fictional and the choice of 'best girl' comes from people's own personal preference but I still can't wrap my head around the fact people prefer somebody that gives up her own dream job to be closer to you and basically makes herself your personal love slave.

You'll never get it, because you are anti-romance. You don't understand the altruism that true love entails. To love someone so much that you'd give up even your dream, even your ideals... it's very powerful, and beautiful. But no, instead, you must demean this selfless love as being equal to a "slave". Just sad!

Hina has had very little character progression and basically is worth less than at the start of the story where she had a decent job and outlook in life.

This is a truly pathetic view. Thinking someone is worth less because she pursues her heart instead of "muh decent job"? What is it with people believing someone's worth is only as much as their career? Also, you mention "love slave" but view being a wage slave -- a slave to your boss -- as being worth "more"... just LOL.
(Disclaimer: people need to work to survive, and there is nothing wrong with being a "wage slave" to make ends meet. But claiming it makes someone worth more than a housewife out of some ego-inflated, modernist, career-worshiping worldview, is just infuriating.)

In her current state she's basically a housewife that does shitty jobs.

And what's wrong with that, huh? Enough with the housewife hatred. I don't understand it. There is nothing wrong with housewives.

A relationship with somebody that has Hina's traits makes up for one of the most boring type of relationship you can have. It's all lovely and cosy at the start but gets very boring quick because she is not really intriguing and will have little to offer to your personal growth because she is standing still in the matter herself.

Having a stable, loving relationship is LE BORING! Why? Because... because, it just is, OK?
I would much rather have a conversation about comedy shows and air out my grievances about writing and acting over some beer with my lovely wife Hina, than to listen to "ambitious, independent" Rui ramble on about... her ambitions in cooking. If you are into cooking then more power to you but Hina is much better suited for someone like me.


The best and longest relationship I've had was with a girl that seemed way out of my league in both academical level and looks. Getting in a relationship with her took effort and she teasingly challenged me to improve myself on several aspects of my life which I still reap the rewards from today. The relationship had all the cosiness, fun and romance you would get from a Hina-type girl but with the added value coming from the challenge which made it a lot more interesting.

Yet she isn't with you anymore. "The best and longest relationship I've had", ouch. That says it all!

If Hina wins this thing over Rui that would be the most cheapest and boring ending to this story.It would mean that a girl that put almost zero effort into personal development and just focused on her love for Natsuo, wins over a girl that finds personal growth equally important to growth of her partner.

Your whole idiotic diatribe can be summed up with thinking that a woman who actually puts her heart and soul into her love is worthless. Sad! Pathetic!

A partner that is ambitious motivates you to do better yourself and both having that character trait will have a positive influence on your children as well.

Sometimes a supporter works better than a "partner". Complementarianism -- masculinity, supported by femininity, is beautiful. I'm sorry you don't get it.

Your whole anti-femininity rant was one of the worst things I've read in a while, and I didn't see any pushback, so there you go! Sorry bro but I actually love women who are feminine -- "shitty housewives" as you so lovingly put it.

Hina > Rui, any day of the week. Here's hoping for a Hina housewife "love slave" ending!
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This means Rui is back in the game.

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