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FlyingFutanari said: deadoptimist said: Aso I didn't get, why Kureha was fighting with the rabbit-teeth girl, but was "eaten" by the same two bears as in the previous episode. And I don't understand, why she can be eaten for the second time. By "eaten" you mean "got her lily licked"? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I mean, was she eaten at all? The whole trial scene is yet to be explained, so for now it is too early to look for any sense in it, I think. ...yeah, something like that. But the court gave them the permission to "eat". I don't mind some things being left in the dark at the beginning, but I prefer, when at least some inner logic is discernable. The fact that there're different bears attacking and attending the court confuses me. And reuse of such a long scene is not very good. |
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| I'm still going wtf about 20 times per episode. Did one of the bear girls just die?!? Also I'm enjoying that op a little too much XD |
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| yo this bitch keeps falling down the stairs like who the fuck does she think she is, sweet bro and hella jeff??? |
| This is one of those "I was watching *insert anime* and my parents walked in. So i quickly switched it to anal porn. It was easier to explain." type shows. |
| SHOOOOOOOOCK! KUMA SHOCK! I still dont know what to think about this, but seems interesting and at least it's not boring. I find the "shock" sound so funny. 5/10 |
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| Really...if you will try to see this plot literally, you can as well drop it now. It's clear that the plot is here to serve the metaphors, and not the contrary. So yeah, things won't make sense because they actually mean something else. Anyway, I don't know if Kureha can be considered an open lesbian. She still called Sumika her friend and had a pretty class S relationship with her. It's clear that they were lesbian, though, but they still were in the closet. Kureha is confused, and that's what makes her a target to the hungry lesbians: a pure and confuse girl who's just realizing her sexuality. The invisibles girls are probably straight, they're playing at love since they study on a all girls school and have no contact with men. That's why Kureha's love was the true thing, because the love of the other girls weren't. And that's why the bears dislike them, because they don't even like girls. And the invisible storm would be the social pressure to be straight, since Japan's society doesn't really accept adult lesbians. That's what I think for now, at least. |
| I should probably wait until watching the next episode before saying so, but this looks like the best Yuri anime since the fourth season of Maria-sama ga Miteru ended in March 2009. A six-year Yuri drought. |
| So do Ginko and Lulu not actually eat girls? I think they just sex em up while all the other bears kill girls. I guess we'll have to see but it seems like they aren't as bad as the rest. |
Drack_w said: Some scenes from the first episode were reused in this one, didn't really like that. That has a lot to do with the director. You see the same things in his previous works, Utena and Mawaru Penguindrum. There are certain scenes he'll keep coming back to, like Utena's climb to the dueling grounds in Utena and that one girls transformation in Penguindrum. I think its tied in with the symbolism in these shows But yeah, typical Ikuhara work, has me thinking hard and getting nowhere. Very entertaining despite it all, cant wait to see more. |
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| So two episode in Ikuhara already lost his self control and having as much fan service on this episode as possible, at least he has a perfect reason to do that and I sure many viewers will help him justify that, you see why he is so awesome? If it is just nobody many more would just get turned off by it. Well it is nice to see anyone can turn into Kuma if their desires get the best of them, I also want to be one of them cause they are so god damn cute. But you have to be a "Yuri" to be able to do that I guess. Maybe it's infectious? But seeing Konomi can just turn into a Kuma is just out of nowhere. A little bit boring and repetitive, I know repetitive is Ikuhara's thing but some of that just not as interesting as those in Penguindrum.  So sexy. Yet Ginko still doesn't give a shit about her. |
raveninthemuddleJan 12, 2015 9:33 PM
| Episode two answered my dilema regarding the lilies, by making the president being a bear herself. She was trying to make the couple's "yuri-side" bloom after all. I was right on her having second intentions too, but it seems she had her eyes on Kureha instead of Sumika. Gersoncs said: Really...if you will try to see this plot literally, you can as well drop it now. It's clear that the plot is here to serve the metaphors, and not the contrary. So yeah, things won't make sense because they actually mean something else. Anyway, I don't know if Kureha can be considered an open lesbian. She still called Sumika her friend and had a pretty class S relationship with her. It's clear that they were lesbian, though, but they still were in the closet. Kureha is confused, and that's what makes her a target to the hungry lesbians: a pure and confuse girl who's just realizing her sexuality. The invisibles girls are probably straight, they're playing at love since they study on a all girls school and have no contact with men. That's why Kureha's love was the true thing, because the love of the other girls weren't. And that's why the bears dislike them, because they don't even like girls. And the invisible storm would be the social pressure to be straight, since Japan's society doesn't really accept adult lesbians. That's what I think for now, at least. I agree 100%, except for what the invisible girls represent. I think they represent fully-closeted, lesbians who actually rejected their natures and despise what they are, as opposed to bears who unapologetically embrace it, and girls like Kureha who simply don;t understand it yet. Eating invisible girls means dating a closeted lesbian, who won't admit what and why they're doing it. All in all a really good ep, managed to keep up with the first, answer a few questions and raise new ones. Also, |
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| This is one eye-popping worthy episode. |
| This show is so over the top and confusing at the same time. You have no idea what the fuck you're watching, but you cant stop watching. So...everyone and their mother is a bear now. I wouldn't be surprised if Kureha was the only human. Dead bucktooth girl and now Mitsuko. Lulu was getting like nose deep into Ginko's ass there for a second. With Ginko completely uncaring lol. I never understand what happens with the roof scenes. Both times Kureha got attacked by a bear, fell down the stairs, bear court goes into session (which is another confusing as hell matter entirely), Lulu and Ginko transform, lick Kureha's lily penis thing, goes back to reality, Kureha never actually falls downstairs or anything. Well, maybe next week will explain some stuff. Kuma SHOCK! Shoooooock! |
Jonesy974Jan 12, 2015 8:56 PM
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okanagan said: I should probably wait until watching the next episode before saying so, but this looks like the best Yuri anime since the fourth season of Maria-sama ga Miteru ended in March 2009. A six-year Yuri drought. You probably didnt watch Sakura Trick which aired last year anyway Entertaining at the same time Confusing as long as the show feeds me more yuri then Im happy with it |
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| Oh snap, Mitsuko's a bear. KUMA SHOCK indeed. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone's a bear at this point. Kureha probably hasn't discovered her bear-transforming abilities or something. Maybe. Rubber ducky ftw. |
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| Ya know what... I wrote a post before and decided to delete it... trying to understand this show is like trying to understand FLCL for the first time. The comedy is good so far. Ginko and Lulu have great interactions with other people because they are just so... silly and weird... lol The visuals and soundtrack as usual are pretty good... KUMA SHOCK! As far as I can tell though, the bears are only interested in lesbians because love tastes good and since there are no males around, only lesbians experience real love. Why they decided to eat Sumika and simply taste Kureha though... I am not sure... Maybe it's because there is something different between Sumika and Kureha... That has yet to be revealed. All we know about Sumika so far is that she was a kindhearted girl who did nice things. My guess is that the point of this series is the mystery of why the bears are killing people and why they are simply tasting others. Perhaps it's because they desire legitimate love so they sabotage other romances, either by eating the problem member or manipulating or whatever so that they can have the one they are after themselves. I am not sure yet... all I know is that I want to watch this to the end to see if it's either going to all come together... or if the creator is just trolling us. lol Edit: Actually, I made 1 observation. The bears are accused of SINNING which is of course related to religion. The sin being when they eat people. This could be seen as a parallel of people who compare homosexuality to murder, thus they are both murdering someone and having sex with the same gender... this is just a shot in the dark though. |
KetenJan 12, 2015 10:11 PM
| SHOCKKK. KUMA SHOCK!!! xD Always gets me, I swear. She really died? Huh.. well I guess-- SHOCKKKKK. fuck im always gonna do this. wtf you bears so cute yet so weird woah WoAH // q // w0ahhd x2 Everyone loves MC kayuWHHAHAAHHA SHE'S A BEAR TOO? O-O nani the fuck oh well as long as there yuri goodies im on board all the way~ ...she's a bear too? = v = |
| KUMA SHOCK : 0 Anyone with Yuri(insert rest) is a Kuma Yurizono Yurigasaki Yurishiro The one that died |
| This is just my guess...but is everyone who has the word "yuri" in their name is actually a bear? And why didn't the school call for police or soldier to protect them if there are bear messing around? |
Yangbojian said: This is just my guess...but is everyone who has the word "yuri" in their name is actually a bear? And why didn't the school call for police or soldier to protect them if there are bear messing around? Yes, I think that is exactly the case. I think people become bears when they have some sort of sexual desire towards the same gender. When Life Sexy asks them if they want to be invisible or eat humans, he is asking if they want to be invisible, thus another part of the herd, or eat humans, being explore their sexuality. Committing a SIN as they put it, I feel is a direct reference to people who think of homosexuality as wrong based off their religious beliefs, thus they portray bears eating humans as murder when in fact it's just them committing sexual acts with those of the same gender. It's possible that Sumika isn't even dead, maybe she was given a choice as well. As they said in the first episode, the invisible storm comes whenever someone experiences true love. Maybe Sumika wanted to take her relationship with Kureha to the next level but because of the way the world works, she must become a bear, hence why the man on the phone stated, "If your love is true then you must give your body to the bears". Perhaps Sumika is a bear now and casted outside the wall. We never did see her body being literally eaten. Of course, that still doesn't explain everything... and it's still just speculation... I'm just trying to make sense out of this show at this point... |
KetenJan 13, 2015 12:22 AM
| I feel like I need a degree in Semiotics to understand most of what this show is about. Ikuhara has quite simply made the 'base narrative' meaningless and it's what's going on at the symbolic level that's important. A big thank you to Keten and some others for posting their interpretations of what's going on. |
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| xiety10 said: You probably didn't watch Sakura Trick which aired last year. Oh yes, I did watch and enjoy "Sakura Trick" ( 桜Trick / Jan-March 2014 ). There is certainly a body of opinion which says that "Sakura Trick" was "Central-Element Yuri", since it is listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_%28genre%29 Having watched the series very carefully, I would have placed it on the "Secondary-Element Yuri" list. In other words, in the same category as "Yuru Yuri" (where the Yuri aspect is there just for comic relief) or "Puella Magi Madoka Magica" and "Kanamemo" (where there was genuine Yuri which was only a small part of the overall story). I felt that the characters in "Sakura Trick" were so emotionally shallow that there was no depiction of the deep relationships that are a defining feature of the Yuri genre. The Japanese-language Wikipedia article about "Sakura Trick" classifies its genre primarily as "yonkoma" (よんコマ) and secondarily as "school". Back in January 2014, I was very interested to watch "Sakura Trick" and see whether it would finally end the multi-year "Yuri drought". Certainly, there was a lot of optimistic expectation of that among Yuri fans. I loved the series. I just don't believe it is Central-Element Yuri. I might have unfairly overlooked "Inugami-san to Nekoyama-san" (2014, 犬神さんと猫山さん) since I never actually watched the series. I tended to dismiss it as possibly being Central-Element Yuri since it is also based on a yonkoma manga. On the other hand, there is some body of opinion that it really should be classified as Central-Element Yuri. So, my apologies to all "Inugami-san to Nekoyama-san" fans. Some Yuri fans also had high hopes for "Akuma no Riddle" (悪魔のリドル) which aired in April 2014. I watched about half of it, and just can't see any justification for considering it to be Central-Element Yuri. Standard sources of information support this. At best, it is Secondary-Element Yuri. It was basically a school-based bloody action story with some Yuri subtext thrown in. There were two very good Central-Element Yuri series which came out at the end of 2009: Aoi Hana (青い花) July - September 2009 Sasameki Koto (ささめきこと) October - December 30th, 2009 I like both of those series and have watched and re-watched them. But I think that they are both flawed and really not up to the standard of excellence of "Maria-sama ga Miteru". After all, both "Aoi Hana" and "Sasameki Koto" crashed and burned from a business point of view, which some people think is what killed the Central-Element Yuri genre after the end of 2009. So the "Yuri drought" started on Dec 31, 2009. "Sasameki Koto" has some great Yuri parts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCfGATD0uTc "Aoi Hana" certainly does as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXPwRDzt-MA Some people do believe that "Kanamemo" actually was Central-Element Yuri, and it finished airing in September 2009. One Yuri fan even spliced together all of the Yuri parts of "Kanamemo": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OiPczwnBEA - - - - - - - In Summary: "Yuri Kuma Arashi" is the best "Central-Element Yuri" TV anime series since "Maria-sama ga Miteru" finished airing in mid-2009. But this opinion is tentative until I have seen the next episode. MariMite is tough to beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAv94oTsmsk ...and there is a totally-awesome live-action movie version of MariMite from 2010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRtHOh9vMwM (sadly never subbed) |
okanaganJan 13, 2015 12:57 AM
| 4/10. I have no clue what's happening, and that's a bad thing. I keep skipping through the flashbacks since the characters are so meh. Give it another episode. |
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Farabeuf said: I feel like I need a degree in Semiotics to understand most of what this show is about. Ikuhara has quite simply made the 'base narrative' meaningless and it's what's going on at the symbolic level that's important. A big thank you to Keten and some others for posting their interpretations of what's going on. I think my issue with the show is that he made it TOO symbolic that it's extremely hard to follow. There is such absurdity that when you try to make sense of it you aren't sure if you are on to something or if you are just overthinking things. Of course, I do think the absurdity is funny at times. Especially whenever Lulu and Ginko are involved. I just wish I could follow it as a legitimate story... x_X |
| So many great comments, the thread was better than the actual episode. I guess this will be one of those shows that make you hit the forum every week. That is, if I don't give up and drop it. But I'm in the “I have no idea but I can't stop watching” for now. Must know what (if anything) it all means. Shabadadoo. |
| This show is really tasteless, couldn't they have had pairings and stuck with them? It's going to be an all-out orgy at this rate. |
CoffeeSquid said: So at this point I'm like 80% sure all the characters with yuri somewhere in their name is a bear? I'm glad that someone else noticed that. Everybody in this thread is so confused and surprised, when the episode was pretty straightforward and the bear twists could be seen miles ahead. Do people in this thread even watch more than moeblobs and ecchi harem garbage? If people found this episode confusing, they'll have a hard time with any complex show. And this isn't even people commenting on the symbolic, but the surface of the show. |
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| I need a character I actually care about and pretty soon. 2/5. |
| So.. it's finally confirmed, girls with yuri in their name are bears... I can only keep going with my theory about Class Rep being the one who got rid of Glasses-chan, I mean she was the one who called kureha and glasses to get early to fix the flower bed. Why did class rep said Glasses chan was delicious, if the bears were the ones who ate glasses?? Need more eps! I can't resist not watching ED, that bear dancing it's so amusing |
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| I doubt the yuri in everybody's names means they're bears because that's basically all the characters in the show, the yuri in the name should just be for jokes since the show is a shoujo ai. |
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bekeru said: THE CHARACTERS ARE INTENTIONALLY PLAIN!Kureha is the only interesting character so far. With only one cour Ikuhara didn't thought of a better way to introduce his characters? This is the rule of a herd - being different will make you excluded. So of course they are boring and simple. They are invisible after all, and tasteless. FlyingFutanari said: You can read the explanation for the trial here. BTW, it was funny how in this episode the logic and rationality got completely kicked in the a$$ by emotions and feelings.The whole trial scene is yet to be explained, so for now it is too early to look for any sense in it, I think. zat-bust said: because there's very likely noone to report to xD basically Sumika and Kureha were the only true human girlsWhy did you stop yourself in the middle of the speech, and not report the bears in disguise? Plot Convenience ? deadoptimist said: Kureha has not been eaten even once yet. The trial takes place in her head while she is attacked by the bears.Aso I didn't get, why Kureha was fighting with the rabbit-teeth girl, but was "eaten" by the same two bears as in the previous episode. And I don't understand, why she can be eaten for the second time. yes, please, stay invisible |
soulelleJan 13, 2015 3:49 AM
Zee530 said: I doubt the yuri in everybody's names means they're bears because that's basically all the characters in the show, the yuri in the name should just be for jokes since the show is a shoujo ai. Erm... nope, I mean... Tsubaki, Kureha-human Izumino, Sumika -human Yurigasaki, Lulu-bear Yurishiro, Ginko-bear Yurizono, Mitsuko-bear Yurikawa, Konomi-bear |
kotenshiJan 13, 2015 3:50 AM
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| I still have no clue what's going on. |
| It's so hard to comment on this show x.x |
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kotenshi said: Zee530 said: I doubt the yuri in everybody's names means they're bears because that's basically all the characters in the show, the yuri in the name should just be for jokes since the show is a shoujo ai. Erm... nope, I mean... Tsubaki, Kureha-human Izumino, Sumika -human Yurigasaki, Lulu-bear Yurishiro, Ginko-bear Yurizono, Mitsuko-bear Yurikawa, Konomi-bear Yes, it seems anyone with Yuri in their (last)name is a bear (I wonder about Yurika though). I thought this at least, was pretty obvious. Whether girls can/are turning into bears though, is another story. |
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| I can't understand any of it. I thought after watch the 2nd episode i could somehow understand the plot. And i really annoyed by the "Kuma Shock" sounds, it's disgusting .. |
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Keten said: Why they decided to eat Sumika and simply taste Kureha though... I am not sure... Maybe it's because there is something different between Sumika and Kureha... That has yet to be revealed. All we know about Sumika so far is that she was a kindhearted girl who did nice things. My guess is that the point of this series is the mystery of why the bears are killing people and why they are simply tasting others. Yurizono eated Sumika, Ginko and Lulu are the ones who eated Kureha. Maybe the difference is that Yurizono doesn't really loved Sumika. She was just like someone wanting seduce a cute girl. It's a destructive emotion that has only lust on it, and that would destroy Sumika. Ginko seems to really love Kureha, though. So her eating would be more gentle and passionate. |
| "Sore wa SEXY! Shaba-da-doo." <3 Here we go. Structure repetition, just the way Ikuhara likes it. While I've never had an issue with his methods, I wonder if he has enough room to keep this up. He is working with a limit of 12 episodes after all. Hopefully he knows not to push it too far, resulting in a rushed ending. But in Ikuhara we trust. Really liked this episode. Lulu always makes me smile. I love how aggressive the bears are. Real subtle, Ikuhara. Although, the metaphysical plain here isn't as clear to me as it was in Rev Girl or Penguindrum. I guess I'll just need an episode more or two to get it. Really hope this show works out! I'm so pumped for next week. Bring on more one-sided, and incredibly sexy, court cases! |
Oddyeus said: This show is really tasteless, couldn't they have had pairings and stuck with them? It's going to be an all-out orgy at this rate. Is that... a bad thing? Fuckin' A, keep the yuri orgy going. I like this show a lot more than Sakura Trick, mainly because the main characters doesn't bother the living shit out of me, and here they are at least decent. The story here is a clusterfuck but that makes it a little bit interesting, and the "subtle" yuri things is at least better than two cardboard-characters kissing half the episodes in ST. It actually loses it's charm after a while. So 7/10 as of yet |
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