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| id suspected it for a while but maybe it was always obvious...theyre killing off all of the characters until satoru and saki are left. i bet satoru dies too leaving saki all alone to wallow in the despair of being the only person alive knowing the truth. |
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Intereo said: Okay, now I'll explain my previous post with two gifs: The animation for that bit was amazing. Too bad the rest of the episode was different. I saw it happen in some animes: first scene before the OP is great and the rest is kinda normal/meh. Still, I like this show even tho it often has "static" scenes with very little animation. |
kpk10 said: Poster and character design for the final arc of the series: http://sp.matomech.com/article.aspx?aid=5571883&bid=1116 wow satoru, such a hottie in that pic lol |
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Aozumi said: kpk10 said: Poster and character design for the final arc of the series: http://sp.matomech.com/article.aspx?aid=5571883&bid=1116 wow satoru, such a hottie in that pic lol YES. They look incredible! |
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| So glad this is a 2 season show! so keen for the next episodes! |
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| Nice episode,got nothing more to say. |
| wow, stoked for the next episode |
| Watched it, liked it. And damn, that linkie thing is too spoiler for me (oAo;;)/ like, i'm still trying to recover from shun's death, i really liked that character though most of the people around here seem to be relieved that it happened TT___TT= *secretly expecting him to have a miraculous return or something... at least in sakki's heart... ~cries in a corner~ |
| Sure this wasn't the most epic episode, but it was very entertaining nonetheless and I'm thrilled to see more. I want to see more of those strange creatures outside of the barrier and other things like that. |
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| Next episode preview makes me think that Maria and Mamoru will run away together.. O: Pretty dialogue filled for the most part of this episode. Couldn't really take it seriously when they were looking for Mamoru whatnot with Maria hopping and all. But, we did learn that Mamoru is a target. He's unstable maybe? |
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| I'm still wondering if Mamoru's suppressed feelings for Maria are going to show up at some point. I can also more easily see Maria becoming a Fiend, being fed up with the utilitarian society and possibly seeking vengeance should Mamoru be killed. |
| きみ は だれ だい？ ぼく は ラムボ！ ぼく は だれ だい？ きみ は ラムボ！ ラムボ なんでし！ |
| The fact that Satoru commented on Mamoru's niceness to other people made it seem that Mamoru will become a Karmic Demon. Woo, speculation |
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| Best episode |
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| Good stuff, they managed to track him down and eventually find him! The story progresses quite nicely now then the horrible development in the beginning... the information we've received from this episode was rather interesting why would they want to remove him first? Does he know something that he shouldn't have? Lets find out next! |
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| Though marginally tedious at times and the weakest of this arc, this episode was, for the most part, pretty good and thoroughly interesting, as it focused, at least in the latter half, on the continued examination of their slowly-realized knowledge towards the animalistic instincts of their society’s elders, and how, in turn, these cruelties have begun to affect them. The subdued nature of this episode was quite refreshing, but the narrative developments within, though compelling, felt unnecessarily stretched, particularly the first half, as the material was implemented with a rather mediocre touch for pacing. As such, several seemingly inconsequential moments, though occasionally derived from a particularly intriguing complexity, were detrimentally lingered on, such as the search for Mamoru, which became marginally repetitive. My favorite sequence was their dreaded realizations following the exploration into Mamoru’s memories of the copycat, as they carefully unraveled the truth within a fragment of their partially artificial and wholly regulated existences. As such, one of the most compelling elements within the narrative throughout this arc is the thoroughly nuanced handling of their slowly-developing maturity, as the veiled façade of their decayed and oppressive society is slowly withering away, due largely to their renewed ability to perceive beyond their well-worn naivety, which has, in turn, revealed a plethora of cruel manipulations, effectively propelling Saki and the others to, once again, adhere to their rebellious inclinations. The wistfully haunting music that was used throughout the conclusion was yet another fantastic selection. One of the most interesting moments was Mamoru’s unsettling recollection of the copycat’s second appearance. Both sequences, particularly the second, displayed some great storyboarding. Also, the isolation of Mamoru’s voice as the copycat edged closer was a particularly effective touch. Mamoru’s rather sympathetic speech was surprisingly emotional, as it provided insight that, though somewhat expected, illuminated an intriguing depth to his characterization. The melancholic musical selection that accompanied this moment complemented the mournful nature of his words exceptionally well. I especially liked that it was silenced as soon as Mamoru mentioned the appearance of a copycat. Though I’m typically intrigued by Saki’s intermittent bits of ominous narration, it was implemented in a rather mediocre fashion at the conclusion of this episode, since the inferences were largely rudimentary. The search for Mamoru, though quite interesting, was slightly tedious at times. Thankfully though, whatever vague monotony had crept into the episode was nearly diminished to a seeming non-existence by the exceedingly melancholic and highly significant conclusion, in which the shroud of clouded uncertainty is finally removed. The decay of their practically illusory society has been beautifully illustrated throughout this entire arc, illuminating a particularly deft sensibility towards methodically deconstructing their manipulated perceptions of the world they had so obliviously clung to since they first arrived in it. The gradual transition into an acceptance of their inclinations for rebellion has been superbly depicted, as this complexity is a consistently intriguing element within the story, and I hope it continues to be focused on as the story progresses. There was a distinctly surprising level of insightful exploration into Maria and Mamoru’s poignant relationship. I loved the rather significant flourishes of pained emotions that were filtered into Maria’s search for Mamoru throughout much of the episode, as they excellently conveyed a necessary complexity to their connection; one that had only been intermittently and vaguely touched upon prior to this episode. This was especially evident whenever an unrealized fear would be awakened, as Maria would adorn a sort of frenzied despair. Maria’s proclivity for needlessly jumping throughout, however, was a distracting affectation, as it excessively contrasted with Saki and Satoru’s comparative actions. One of the most intriguing aspects within this episode, and the entire narrative, for that matter, is the fatalistic foreshadowing that has been subtly woven throughout. Initially, of course, Shun was seemingly shadowed by a certain inevitability within his limited life expectancy, marked by a plethora of socially divergent tendencies and an abundance of surrealistic imagery that directly foretold of an ever-approaching death. Then, though subtly alluded to in several earlier episodes, particularly the fourth, Maria and Mamoru‘s fates seem to have acquired this determined brevity to them. Of course, since they have always appeared to be inexorably bound together, it increasingly feels as though their lives will eventually be extinguished, which was further strengthened by the preview for the next episode, as their conversation appears to possess a sort of finality to it. Though somewhat inconsistent, the direction was pretty solid throughout, especially during Mamoru’s moderately surrealistic memories. One of the most impressively framed shots within this episode was the quietly significant isolation of Saki, Maria, and Satoru’s faces upon first encountering the edge of the Holy Barrier, in which their forlorn expressions peeked through a miniscule separation in the rather imposing tapestry. It was a hauntingly effective shot, particularly due to it’s appropriately lingering nature, which essentially accentuated the deeply foreboding atmosphere. This episode was occasionally well-animated, particularly the moments that involved their expressive reactions towards unforeseen complications, but it was also quite inconsistent. Musically, this episode was consistently great, as this particular aspect of the show, though it was occasionally mediocre throughout the first arc, has excelled throughout the second. I particularly liked the considerably ominous musical selection that accompanied the sequence in which Saki and the others discover Mamoru’s abandoned sled, since it was greatly complementary to the tragically hopeless nature of this fleeting revelation. Visually, this episode was quite good, though not entirely impressive, aside from it’s rather excellent backgrounds, which illustrated the deceptively serene desolation that surrounded their excursion. All in all, though this episode wasn’t nearly as fantastic as the last, From the New World continues to excel with it’s narrative execution, relatively intricate writing, and the immensely foreboding atmosphere that permeates nearly every episode. The narrative, so far, has been masterfully constructed, particularly in it’s ability to remain incredibly consistent, since, aside from the mediocre conclusion to the first arc, nearly every episode has been suffused with intriguing developments and a beautifully foreboding atmosphere, as though every seemingly miniscule fragment of information or subtle foreshadowing was deftly woven into this thoroughly well-written tale. This, in turn, results in a story that rarely deteriorates, perpetually maintaining this superbly effective and comprehensively compelling focus. |
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| Slowly starting to regain their memories! |
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| Good, he is still alive, for now... I feel like he is definitely going to die in the next few episodes :/ I guess they want to kill him because is pretty unstable and weak-minded :/ Cantus-skiing is nice. Intereo said: Okay, now I'll explain my previous post with two gifs: Agreed, the animation got a little worse again, though it's not that bad. (The bonus is pretty funny :D) Also, I really can't say why, but I liked that scene from the previous episode a lot. |
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myuun said: KingCez said: damnn i was shitting bricks right alongside mamoru. holy fuck. nahh son fuck that shit why are they killing him? because he remembers stuff? hes useless? :O I think it's because he is simply one of the weaker ones amongst the group. I think there is more to it though that we still have to find out. They don't kill people because they are weak. There fear is about Feinds and karma demons, nothing else. If they really do want to dispose of him then maybe is because of unstable personality. The way he panics and such might make him dangerous. His such a scary cat he may start killing everyone in-frond of him thinking everyone wants to hurt him. But because he is such a scary cat there is a good possibility that his just over-paranoid and bringing trouble for nothing. Personally i find he character very annoying. To be honest i won't be sad if they make him disappear. it seems very likely that whatever happens to him will be the start of Maria losing it. |
| Maria the Kangaroo is amazing. |
TowardsTheStars said: Lol.Maria the Kangaroo is amazing. |
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| I'm glad they found Mamoru. |
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| hmm at least they have found mamoru :p |
| I feel like the most important part of this episode was the fact that it showed Maria is not very strong. She was really letting her emotions get the better of her in this episode, which leads me to think about what Saki said very early on in the show. While Mamoru is weak, I doubt they'd try to dispose of him just because of that. Maybe they see him as unstable? Sadly I don't see him lasting much longer. |
Spirai said: Finally, a few concerns: why did the copy-cat behind Mamoru disappear when it could have gone for the kill? I don't think terrified-out-of-his-mind Mamoru could have done much in his state, so who did? And what about the trail of blood? And why is Mamoru being disposed of other than the fact he's weak? Is he really that worthless to the society? I don't think he can become any sort of demon or fiend with his lack of talent so the only annoying aspect about his character is how easily he becomes frightened. And lastly, why is a copy-cat called a copy-cat? sums up my thoughts. I would also like to add that I liked this episode although when searching for Mamoru seemed a bit boring it was also interesting to see how the teens deduced such theories and figured out where he was, they are really intelligent. |
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| It's soo hilarious seeing Maria hopping like a bunny the whole time!! I had some major LOLS from her~ >u< |
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| Saki is in such a shitty position. She knows a hell more than her friends do, but she can't tell them not only for the society security, but also for their own security. She's trapped in a huge dilemma. From the preview, it look like they'll separate, Maria will accompany Mamoru since she probably feel guilty for what she told him. I can't figure out why they want so much to kill Mamoru. Like Satoru said, he's not really someone with a personnaluty disorder, they could just brainwashed him again and let him go. Why bother so much and take so many risk. Also, what is this ''tornado'' that saved him? I can't believe that he saved himself, he's way to weak to do something like that. Also, I really want to know what will happen with the Queerat. Saki stated that it was odd that he was outside the sacred barrier. Was he suppose to follow him? I don't think that the Queerat are bad, it's just that since they are submitted to human, they are forced to do all the dirty job. I wouldn't be surprised if he was only an informator. |
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| i hope they go to the outer world i mean.. there is not much left to do.. |
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Nope said: Because he's weak minded, may become a Karma Demon. or He's becoming a liability. They just don't want him snapping and going on a rampage like the kid in the flashback. But that doesn't explain why they kill everyone who has a weak cantus, unless of course having a weak cantus is a result of being weak minded. It's also possible children with weak cantus become weak minded by losing confidence and becoming depressed, since not having a strong enough cantus makes you useless and is seen as a problem in their society. It's almost like a self fulfilling prophecy. Why not instead breed out the gene that causes PK powers by ensuring that people with weak cantus out number and eventually replace the ones with strong cantus? |
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| I knew Mamoru would pull a stunt like this for precisely that reason. He always seemed to be the weakest link in the group. |
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| Maria jumping... What. Enjoyable episode. |
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| This series becomes somehow boring lately... Started great, tho. This episode is weakest of all. |
| more memories coming back that memory block is so annoying wonder who saved mamoru by killing the copycat @minouneetzoe "Saki is in such a shitty position. She knows a hell more than her friends do, but she can't tell them not only for the society security, but also for their own security. She's trapped in a huge dilemma." yup, even if given the past she's likely to let the others know, if not she may try to do something about it herself it's curious the chief said they couldn't give back her memories but instead told her all those other informations, as if remembering a past friend is a threat to the mental health of others and social security in general, but knowing about how the commitee has no qualms in "erasing" people for whatever reason is fine to know wonder what satoru was doing when he got separed by the group at the start of the search |
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| Man I love this anime!!!.Every episode just sucks you in further and further with each mystery and thrill. |
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| I don't care about the animation quality so much. I think it's okay, though. And this episode was not so exciting but it still keeps me wanting more! ^-^ |
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| I don't mind them killing off the 5th wheel. Never liked him since episode 1, i actually thought he was a girl until episode 9 or 10 |
| I loved how Saki and Satoru were PK-skiing in the snow but Maria was just jumping up and down. She should just be able to fly already :) |
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| Wow... Thatw as the best episode so far (unpopular opinion) I was actually sweating a bit with mamoru talkinga bout the Nekodamashi. DAMN, what a terrifying thing. |
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| The animation level dropped again. Otherwise great ep. I think Saki realizes that it's not the extent and mastery of your powers that makes you a target for elimination. It's your emotional stability and his is swiftly going down the drain. It's interesting that Maria cares for him so much. I wonder if it's a protective 'motherly' instinct or if it really is a romantic attachment. |
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| Well, that was boring |
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| Finally decided to pick this back up after having it on-hold for over half a year. All I can say is that I was not disappointed. Started to remember why I was watching this in the first place. Forgot how underrated the horror aspect of this anime is. Looking forward to the second half. |
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StrawberryRain said: Finally decided to pick this back up after having it on-hold for over half a year. All I can say is that I was not disappointed. Started to remember why I was watching this in the first place. Forgot how underrated the horror aspect of this anime is. Looking forward to the second half. You wont be disappointed! :) |
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| So, in short, the school system is so paranoid of "ogres" that they weed out every child that is weak-willed or shows even the slightest signs of instability. They're afraid Mamoru could potentially become an ogre, so OFF WITH HIS HEAD. On that note, that leaves the group in a real bind. They can't return Mamoru to the village, because the village is the place they need to protect him from. I can't actually fathom how they're going to save him. Pretty interesting, but yeah, slow ass episode. This anime certainly requires a lot of patience. |
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| Shame the animation quality is so weak compared to the first few episodes. This episode was not that interesting, mostly finding Mamoru and knowing that they're being hunted down (or at leasr for now, Mamoru) Still looking forward how this is going to go on though, definitely one of the stronger stories I've experienced in anime. |
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