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yuichii2 said: this is officially better than clannad now =o the only thing bad about ef is that its only 12 episodes :( I never thought Clannad was that great but I'm such a drama slut (aka, ef drama = good, Clannad drama isn't really that dramatic). 12 episodes is perfect. Not too long, not too short, we don't wanna have any unneseccary (lolenglish?) episodes, now do we? |
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| what a beautiful episode, in all ways. the art was just too.. awesome to say the least also, miya fully won in this episode, she was my favorite all the way from the start. and sorry kei fans, but i dont think she will get a happy ending, she is just too lost in hiro (which is a lost case i believe) to get an insight into kyouske's feelings. and i gotta say taht karma is a really powerful thing!, she did get what she deserved, and i pretty much dont feel bad for her. miya for the other side, is the perfect match for hiro. the best scene in the whole episode was the beach scene with hiro and miya, the kiss scenes were perfect in everyway. and it wasnt that kind of silent romance, it was kinda happy romance. miya really makes things go in a happy, and somehow funny way. hiro trying to find words to fit the scenery was... good for the other side, renji is getting an insight into chihiro's world (the word insight just doesnt want to get off my mind >.<) he finally realized that in order to live with chihiro, he will have to go through a lot of hardships like the one he had in the episode. the scene in the beach with the sand castle was done very well, but i didnt felt like that moment was really a catchy in some ways. best episode ever, because of miya. i wanted to see kei's face too... and, one part of me (maybe a really dark one) wanted an accident for kei when she was running... i dont know, its just a side of me that... errr.... just likes tragedies sometimes, dont take me wrong kei fans ^_^ |
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| I believe the sand castle was suppose to represent the fragility of Chihiro's memories. I think both of them built it together when not so sure... In terms of the metaphor behind it all, it was wonderfully executed. I'm not really looking into it too deeply though, but I found the scene to be quite powerful in a sense. I wonder whether Himura was like this before he fully accepted Chihiro's condition...He can't always have been so stoic and indifferent towards Chihiro. Ah I'm ranting again...so yeah...Renji smash? o_O |
| N-E-E-D M-O-A-R E-F N-O-W |
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| Well Kei is definetly not going to get Hirono-kun now. Anyway, each scene was done so well in this episode. Especially the beach scene and the on top of the church scene. Animation was just amazing. I was barely surprised when Miya and Hiro slept with each other. Does anyone remember the Prologue for the anime? Shows miya topless on a bed/couch. So we knew at some point they were going to sleep together. Like who else would she sleep with? xD I felt sorry for Kei for what she saw. I wonder how she'll be towards Hiro in the upcoming episodes, and I'm also curious to see whether or not Hiro will care that he's hurt Kei. In the beginning I was a Kei x Hiro fan, but I just want Kei x Kyousuke to happen ^^' It's so sad to see Renji like that. He's pretty much trying to convince himself that Chihiro hasn't changed and will always be that person. Even though he has to sacrifice a lot to be with Chihiro, I hope he'll be able to deal with it a lot better in the future and stay with Chihiro. -is impatiently waiting for next episode- |
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| Yeah! im glad Miyako and Hiro got together! The episode where Miyako left 99 messages on his cell phone was painful to watch .. so this is good :) Furthermore, since its episode 9, things should speed up now .. cant wait for the remainder episodes! |
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xo_cl2 said: Yeah! im glad Miyako and Hiro got together! The episode where Miyako left 99 messages on his cell phone was painful to watch .. so this is good :) Furthermore, since its episode 9, things should speed up now .. cant wait for the remainder episodes! Ditto.... Its the best outcome EVER!!! |
| Loved this episode, but I do feel for Renji. I could feel the painful numbness he must have felt when you see the blood run down his head. I think the reason why the got so angry after what Chihiro said about memories and personality was because he actually did think it was true. Everyone's personalities are shaped by their experiences, their memories, their joys and suffering. So whenever Chihiro loses all of her memories, it's the equivalent of her old self dying and an new person is born with the memories of her past. Renji, like many of us, wants to deny this. It's easier to deny it than to accept something so painful. Some may try to argue her "heart" is still the same, others might hang on to the glimpse of hope that she may be able to see fragments of the memories she lost. In the end, this story wasn't intended as a fairy tale. Our personality, our entire self is supported by our memories, without memories, we are no longer the same person. Yes!! Finally Miyako makes a move. The kissing scene was a total win. Hiro and Miyako are such a good match that it's undeniable. The way Hiro responded after the kiss was plainly hilarious. Gotta love those two together. |
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AegisReborn said: Loved this episode, but I do feel for Renji. I could feel the painful numbness he must have felt when you see the blood run down his head. I think the reason why the got so angry after what Chihiro said about memories and personality was because he actually did think it was true. Everyone's personalities are shaped by their experiences, their memories, their joys and suffering. So whenever Chihiro loses all of her memories, it's the equivalent of her old self dying and an new person is born with the memories of her past. Renji, like many of us, wants to deny this. It's easier to deny it than to accept something so painful. Some may try to argue her "heart" is still the same, others might hang on to the glimpse of hope that she may be able to see fragments of the memories she lost. In the end, this story wasn't intended as a fairy tale. Our personality, our entire self is supported by our memories, without memories, we are no longer the same person. You have a good point. But Chihiro doesn't have zero memories. Yes, she definitely can forget about her experiences with Renji and such. But her personality is still there. She may be a bit childish, because she has the personality of a 12-year-old, but it's there and it won't go away. |
AngelLily said: You have a good point. But Chihiro doesn't have zero memories. Yes, she definitely can forget about her experiences with Renji and such. But her personality is still there. She may be a bit childish, because she has the personality of a 12-year-old, but it's there and it won't go away. True, I agree, she does have personality. :) |
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| I wasn't too surprised with the outcome of Miya-Miya and Hiro-Hiro's relationship. Seeing the opening scene of Episode 9 with Kei in the towel just gave me that feeling that karma was going to get her back. Very awesome episode; I can't wait to completely catch up and watch episode 10. |
Kineta said: One of my favorite scenes: I absolutely loved the scene between Miyako and Hirono, absolute win~!! Except I think they jumped into bed waaaay too fast :S I didn't like THAT at all. Renji crying sadly when Chihiro was talking about her former self being dead - very nice. In fact, all of Renji was pure win in this episode. And he finally realizes about the story. I want to see what he's going to do from here on out. that is essentially 100% what i thought. that kissing scene was probably the most beautiful kiss scene since marmalade boy (when they're at the beach during sunset)... and then it got ruined when they jumped into bed that quick =/ and just renji and chihiro ... i cant even describe how much i love their story line. if hiro, miyako, kei etc werent in the show i wouldnt care. chihiro and renji are enough to me. its like the saddest and most epic love story ever (i thought air had a pretty sad and epic romance...but this beats it) and i want a goddamn happy ending out of it ;.; hahaa. |
| Hey Miyako and Hiro, no sex before marrige, ok. |
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| Loved this episode. Now I hate Miyako even more. At first I thought the camera guy (forgot his name =P) was just there for filming Kei, but now I think he and her might end up together. But I still would prefer if Kei and Hiro ended up together =P |
| yes yes, i'm too happy seeing Miyako and Hiro got together!! at last! the kissing scene is soo romantic..if they had put a short scene before the bed thing, say any unexpected situation/action that will lead to another kissing scene in the room and lastly to the bed, that might be better..nevertheless, i love both of them! |
| Now, the prologue part is now going on!! I finally understood. Now, I'm going to love this show more! Nice references, first from Lucky Star, then School days, then CLANNAD? Hahaha! Nice one! |
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| I just realized I never even saw the prologue until I saw so many mentions of it in this thread. Looking at it now, I probably would have leaned towards being supportive of Kei if I'd have watched that first. Knowing what I know now though, that can't happen :P I must say cheers to Miyako. I guess this is the point where Kyosuke helps Kei pick up the pieces. I've really become captivated by the animation, especially in Chihiro's scenes. Parts like this |
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| It really wasn't unexpected for Miyako to jump into bed with Hirono that fast, she made a light joke about him going over to her house alone on the first night that they met. And I actually laughed when Kei walked in and discovered it too, scenes like that are just instinctively hilarious to me even though afterward the person who sees will probably be completely heartbroken. I still feel for Renji and Chihiro and really hope that this series will have a happy ending for them. On a side note, I'm pretty sure the phone card is a reference to the song "Dango San Kyoudai" or "Three Dango Brothers." |
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| awwwwwwwwwww Miyako and Hiro <3 poor Kei |
| ZOMG!! *resisting urge to fangirl squeal* That was GREAT!!! So many.... uhh emotions in that ep ^^ And I loved the end of the episode... the scream just topped it off =D.... I lieked Hirono x Miyako anyways >.>..... *wants to misuse the Japanese language* M-must not g-give into f-fangirlism!!! O_e |
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| ok ... I paused this ep on min 11 ... PURE WIN .. 10/10 ... ubberly done xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| Just saw this episode a while ago - noticed the Clannad reference. |
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| What the hell, they confessed, kissed, and had sex immediately afterwards? That was way too fast. |
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| So Hiro sealed the deal with just a couple kisses. I don't know who to feel more sorry for, Renji or Chihiro. |
cyruz said:  Nagisa popped up in my mind when I saw that card! xD Miyako's kiss was very... beutiful. This episode was full with pure win, thus far being my favorite episode from this anime. I wish there were more anime like this! :D candelina said: gotoKu- said: Miyako and Hiro getting in bed killed it for me. I'd prefer seeing more innocence in their characters; that was too far imo. I think miya took it that far because last episode Kei implied that she and Hiro were in bed together.. this reflects poorly on miya's character but that could be a big part of this sudden progress.. You ARE aware that this anime is based after an adult visual novel? Or you didn't know? Ef- A Tale of the Two. Well even it weren't, which isn't the case here, I found it very romantic. :) |
| epic...after finishing strike witches just today the plot development in this seems unreal |
| Muhahaha. Gf Kei, Gf. I don't feel any remorse for you at all. Yay!!!! Miyako x Hirono!! ~Abs |
| Well, things appear to be at an all time low save Miyako, who's been completely rejuvenated in bed (wtf moment). I can't see Kei taking this too well, and as for Chihiro and Renji...well...it seems like Chihiro is losing confidence in living her life the way she does what with her journal, and Renji's at a stop trying to lay out his thoughts and feelings for Chihiro...downhill from here is what I'm expecting, but Animes never end sadly...do they... |
  Dango, dango, dango, dango, dango, daikazoku~ |
| lmao dangos, I saw the card and a memory stirred but I didn't make the connection at the time xD, but ouch at the ending, wonder how Kei will react =O |
| Kei actually did a favor to Miyako by deleting the evidence of her secret (that she's a total nutcase XD) With Miyako getting physical Kei's chances are going down the drain. The kiss scene and RenjixChihiro was as beautiful as ever |
Just noticed that nobody mentioned the adorable preview artwork by Ume Aoki 720p Version |
Kvakond said: Kei actually did a favor to Miyako by deleting the evidence of her secret (that she's a total nutcase XD) With Miyako getting physical Kei's chances are going down the drain. The kiss scene and RenjixChihiro was as beautiful as ever Miyako is indeed a total nutcase ...but Hiro is too stupid for Kei overall I hate the Miyako x Hiro couple |
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| I'm not really sure how I feel about this episode. I never really liked Miyako that much, so when the kissing scene came up I was just like, "Meh." and it didn't really bother me. Then they jumped into bed and I was like, "WTF? DX" Yeah... I'm pretty sure their side of the story is going to go downhill for me from now on. That's definitely why I like Renji's side of the story a whole lot more. It's so much more emotional and sadder, but it's still fantastic. The bed scene made me lose a lot of respect points for Hirono's side of the story though. I don't feel like Miyako is right for Hirono, and at the same time I don't feel like Kei is right for Hirono so I'm not really sure what to say. In all seriousness, I might just skip over Hirono/Miyako/Kei's side of the story. The bed scene really seriously bothered me. XP Not to give all the credit to Miyako and Hirono, I didn't like the opening scene when Kei walked out in a towel either. gotoKu- said: Miyako and Hiro getting in bed killed it for me. I'd prefer seeing more innocence in their characters; that was too far imo. Lol, this pretty much sums up my post. |
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gotoKu- said: Miyako and Hiro getting in bed killed it for me. I'd prefer seeing more innocence in their characters; that was too far imo. You know, some times innocence is overrated. |
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| haha Kei baka! baka! baka! I like it when couples in anime getting serious Kiss+ Hug² + sleeping in one bed ftw In some shows we hardly see holding hands or a kiss. |
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| nice tactic of Miyako to lure Hiro in bed :p also Kei is stupid she should them him early no matter wich one he like more ?? |
| nice tactic of Miyako to lure Hiro in bed :p also Kei is stupid she should them him early no matter wich one he like more ?? |
| the couples are playing out exactly like I thought they would in the beggining. I liked the development in the Chihiro-Renji romance. even though I liked the episode as well as the Hirono-Miyako romance development I did not care for the scene of them in bed. its clear to me now that Kei and Kyosuke will end up together,its clear that Kyosuke cares very much for Kei, and she is becoming more open to him, even though she doesnt realize it because she is obsessed with Hirono right now, I think she is starting to like Kyosuke. I'm looking forward to some development on their budding romance. as for the end, in my entire anime career I've never heard a girl cry as hard as Kei did at the end, even though I saw it coming several episodes back, I didnt think it would play out like that. |
kg-san said: Asu you're still a fragile flower... But its ok cause you're a beautiful flower! 花火花火花火 :D:D:D |
| Okay episode, wasn't as good as the previous one. Yaay, Miya's back! She totally got laid. 8D |
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| Can some this episode up in 3 words. "Take That Kei!!" Felt so good to see Miyako wind up with Hirono after all, nice to see some relationship paths actually go somewhere in an anime. Not sure if Chihiro's will be a happy ending though, its hard to tell at this juncture. |
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SuperKyou said: Can some this episode up in 3 words. "Take That Kei!!" Felt so good to see Miyako wind up with Hirono after all, nice to see some relationship paths actually go somewhere in an anime. Not sure if Chihiro's will be a happy ending though, its hard to tell at this juncture. haha seems like you have been worn out of what kei did xD well i should say it loud "Take that Kei" |
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| I did not expect Kei to find them like that so soon. But I have to say that this has not turned out to be as sad as I thought. Maybe Clannad affected how I view these Dramas now. |
ClementIV said: I did not expect Kei to find them like that so soon. But I have to say that this has not turned out to be as sad as I thought. Maybe Clannad affected how I view these Dramas now. i see what your saying, for some reason i really cant sympythies with the characters.like for example i really cant feel sad for renj nor can i appreciate the drama, and that miyakoxhirono kiss it felt sudden. |
| I love this show and all, but I'm surprised I'm not crying at some of the scenes. It's a cute anime indeed. But I'm just watching this anime with my mouth open, no tears flowing. murrr.. but still a great anime. Miyako sleeping with Hiro though? There we go Hiro! The kissing scene between those two was the cutest thing I've seen in the series. And when Kei walked in, HAHAH shit just hit the fan. great episode. but I'm really waiting for a moment in the show where I cry. I think I'm expecting this show to be too much like Clannad. |
| I don't think that bed scene was too early or it says something bad about Miyako. It is completely right. Because Ef is really DIFFERENT than other anime. Most of anime have confession and kiss scene only in the last episode, or even doesn't have at all. Just because there are... for kids, you know. But Ef is different. Completely different. Was the phone scene in 7th episode for kids? No! Is the horrible amnesia of Chihiro was for kids? No! And Hiro X Miya love wasn't too. And, you know, I belive that really strong feeling doesn't know word "early". |
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