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| bit mixed feelings on how they adapted this but I guess I'm okay with it... although it would have been more emotional to do it the long way instead of going straight to the True end |
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Draakisback said: Heres a question for all of you. How did riki and rin end up being the only ones thrown from the bus? and if they were thrown from the bus, how the hell did they only manage to have minor injuries? I kind of understand why JC staff put them outside the bus in this scene but it is logically silly as hell. Kyouske talking telling them the entire time that they were the only survivors yet they were thrown from a bus that fell off a cliff? yeah right? more likely that everyone else survives and they both die brutal deaths. I guess you could try to explain it away by saying that kyouske or kengo and masato carried them out of the bus while in the fake world, but this makes no sense at all considering if they had that capability they would have done it for everyone. Yes i understand that this is an anime and it doesnt need to be completely logical, but seriously? this is just one of the big issues i had with this episode. Kyousuke was also thrown from the bus, and he was able to crawl back. I think in the Little Busters world, being thrown out of the bus actually saves you o_O It would've made so much more sense for Riki and Rin to still be inside the bus being hugged by Masato and Kengo... at least that's what I thought. And as the other guy said, it was the same in the VN anyway. Based Maeda. |
| All that music cut off in the middle of the songs tore at my heart....;( Btw i still love this episode. EDIT: Added spoiler tags~ |
koagzeroDec 21, 2013 11:57 AM
| i havent played the novel but, the fact that there is hope just seems so wrong, and here i was thinking that thy wwould barely survive an explotion, or that they woould hear it from far away, but thay had all the tim in the world to go back and try to save them? it just seems wrong... well let´s see the true ending...i haave really high hopes for this ones, if done well it might even surpass after story (well the author say this one is his masterpice, but we'll see, after story and angel beats are not going to be easily surpassed) |
| Being a fan is like having a penis. Its nice to be proud of it But don't pull it out in public and wave it in other's faces Kyurem Black. Kyurem White. Together they are Pretty Kyurem. |
| Blunders and blasphemies. Good job JC Staff. Really. |
| Wow the buscrash was really good executed, still one episode to go |
Draakisback said: Heres a question for all of you. How did riki and rin end up being the only ones thrown from the bus? and if they were thrown from the bus, how the hell did they only manage to have minor injuries? I kind of understand why JC staff put them outside the bus in this scene but it is logically silly as hell. Kyouske talking telling them the entire time that they were the only survivors yet they were thrown from a bus that fell off a cliff? yeah right? more likely that everyone else survives and they both die brutal deaths. I guess you could try to explain it away by saying that kyouske or kengo and masato carried them out of the bus while in the fake world, but this makes no sense at all considering if they had that capability they would have done it for everyone. Yes i understand that this is an anime and it doesnt need to be completely logical, but seriously? this is just one of the big issues i had with this episode. You do realise that they were outside in the VN as well, right? Play the scene again, they get up, turn around and BAM! Outside, looking at the bus. |
| JC Staff, I have one word to say to you, f[rest is omitted]... WHAT THE? I was waiting by seconds all this week to see this episode, and guess what I have got? NOTHING, Absolutely NOTHING: just stupid animation to fill the episodes count so it would be some darned 13 NOT 12.... ---- Waiting for Rewrite adaption or Little Busters ( version 2016 ) ........ |
lightningfalconDec 21, 2013 9:42 AM
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Kiniest said: Zero_r2 said: i havent played the novel but, the fact that there is hope just seems so wrong, and here i was thinking that thy wwould barely survive an explotion, or that they woould hear it from far away, but thay had all the tim in the world to go back and try to save them? it just seems wrong... well let´s see the true ending...i haave really high hopes for this ones, if done well it might even surpass after story (well the author say this one is his masterpice, but we'll see, after story and angel beats are not going to be easily surpassed) Little Busters surpassed Angel Beats eons ago. Angel Beats: Score: 8.581 (scored by 178096 users) Ranked: #652 Popularity: #8 Little Busters Refrain: Score: 8.321 (scored by 4315 users) Ranked: #1852 Popularity: #1126 Yea it surpassed it "eons" ago... #sarcasm |
| I actually like what JC Staff is doing although there are some part that make me say wtf. Hospital scene wouldn't go well with the anime adaptation. |
| I think last episode set the bar too high for VN players... I think most of them were expecting a 1:1... (But Riki fainting by the bus is actual bullshit. Other than that, solid episode) |
| I dunno. The route JC Staff just builds up to a tragedy that never happens. They could've at least tried to satisfy people who would go for either a tragic end or this happy ending. The true end is only "logical" when Maeda decides "Oh, Little Busters is about becoming stronger, not overcoming tragedy. Riki and Rin just need to get stronger and save everyone and it'll be fine" while the side routes were about overcoming tragedy moreso than Riki and Rin actually becoming stronger. It's bad, easily as bad as Clannad's, except that adaptation and the VN at least did both endings. Now people can't even be satisfied with the tragic end it was aiming for. We're just forced into this "true end" that subverted many of the themes and ideas that it built up to. |
| Dat bus scene though. No explosion? Not a tear was shed. Oh well. |
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Tyrel said: Dat bus scene though. No explosion? Not a tear was shed. Oh well. No tear this week, cheer up! I hope we'll cry next week... |
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| Dat bus scene, damn... at least Riki and Rin manage to survive but the others just really tragic... Well, Riki and Rin said "It's not over yet" and they will eventually find a way to save everyone from these tragic events. Let's see how they manage to do this in the last episode for next week. |
Seano299 said: I think last episode set the bar too high for VN players... I think most of them were expecting a 1:1... (But Riki fainting by the bus is actual bullshit. Other than that, solid episode) Can someone please explain to me WHY fainting by the bus is bullshit. |
| Wafuu~ |
MCAL said: So tragic ending then deus ex machina happy true end is better than happy true end that feels properly built up. I'm just not following... I'd much rather have multiple interpretations of the themes of the series, where the bad/normal end implies overcoming tragedies, and the "true end" saying "Fuck all of that. The dream world was for Riki and Rin to become stronger. Now they can save everyone!" This ending just gave us the happy end the true end's theme contradictions. Unless they can brilliantly make up for this and give a convincing explanation for why the LBs should get to live, I'm not convinced. Maeda couldn't even entirely convince me, so there's that... I like the happy ending, but the tragic one was what actually made more sense thematically, and the anime just deletes that one entirely. |
cxu said: Seano299 said: I think last episode set the bar too high for VN players... I think most of them were expecting a 1:1... (But Riki fainting by the bus is actual bullshit. Other than that, solid episode) Can someone please explain to me WHY fainting by the bus is bullshit. Sorry, but I got no answer for you, 'cause it's not bullshit. |
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| I don't even know how to rate this episode. I was expecting people dying, My feels just went out the window. Just (╯°Д°）╯︵ ┻━┻ EDIT: spoiler tags |
LeccaDec 21, 2013 10:06 AM
Tyrel said: cxu said: Seano299 said: I think last episode set the bar too high for VN players... I think most of them were expecting a 1:1... (But Riki fainting by the bus is actual bullshit. Other than that, solid episode) Can someone please explain to me WHY fainting by the bus is bullshit. Sorry, but I got no answer for you, 'cause it's not bullshit. That's one thing I liked about this episode.... Lecca said: I don't even know how to rate this episode. I was expecting people dying, Just (╯°Д°）╯︵ ┻━┻ Well... now I thought of it again, perhaps it's too much for that to fit in one episode... this should be the only reason why they had to add this ODD episode ... you know, airing an anime episode is really costing |
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theKDL said: Lecca said: I don't even know how to rate this episode. I was expecting people dying, Just (╯°Д°）╯︵ ┻━┻ Well... now I thought of it again, perhaps it's too much for that to fit in one episode... this should be the only reason why they had to add this ODD episode ... you know, airing an anime episode is really costing Thanks for reminding me to spoiler tag that. And here I thought they would pour budget into this episode since if I remember correctly they've cut out animation quality in some episodes or I might just be hallucinating. |
| Lol for a moment it looked like desk was talking to Rin. Anyway bit of a strange ep, doesn't feel complete at all. |
cxu said: Seano299 said: I think last episode set the bar too high for VN players... I think most of them were expecting a 1:1... (But Riki fainting by the bus is actual bullshit. Other than that, solid episode) Can someone please explain to me WHY fainting by the bus is bullshit. |
| And here I thought JC Staff made the episode an abomination. I forgot that some VN readers tend to overreact if the adaptation was slightly different to the VN. Good episode nonetheless. The scenes with the girls were kind of creepy with them looking like ghosts with half of their body being colorless. Too bad they did not put the bad end cause I prefer that over the true end. For me a tear-jerking tragedy is better than a forced happy ending. Kind of surprised when they used the happy-sounding ED instead of another sad song. And finally Riki voicing the preview. Next episode is the last episode! Oh God i don't want it to end yet! Overcome this final task. Next time, The Little Busters. |
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| Nothing to say other than a great episode! Differences to the VN or whatever.... I don't give a damn.(I spoiled myself with the VN ending.... so I know) The episode as a whole was brilliant. I have no idea how they are going to end the story, but as far as THIS episode is concerned, I think it was good. Rin scenes were just.... T-T |
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| being said as the pinnacle of his work.. But to be honest, this is nowhere near Clannad after story level |
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Toaki90 said: being said as the pinnacle of his work.. But to be honest, this is nowhere near Clannad after story level If you compare the animes then yes this is nowhere near Afterstory. But if you compare their source material, then Little Busters VN is the better one. |
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Seano299 said: cxu said: Seano299 said: I think last episode set the bar too high for VN players... I think most of them were expecting a 1:1... (But Riki fainting by the bus is actual bullshit. Other than that, solid episode) Can someone please explain to me WHY fainting by the bus is bullshit. There, fixed your spoiler for you. Please stop confusing the anime with the VN. If you wanted the VN, then get out of here and read that instead. |
| Wafuu~ |
Toaki90 said: being said as the pinnacle of his work.. But to be honest, this is nowhere near Clannad after story level That's like complaining about Umineko after watching Higurashi, and saying "That's the pinnacle of Ryukishi's work?" This adaptation is more hyped than the source material, when it's clearly had a few (haha) issues in its delivery. |
Vladz0rDec 21, 2013 10:39 AM
Vladz0r said: That's like Toaki90 said: being said as the pinnacle of his work.. But to be honest, this is nowhere near Clannad after story level That's like complaining about Umineko after watching Higurashi, and saying "That's the pinnacle of Ryukishi's work?" This adaptation is more hyped than the source material, when it's clearly had a few (haha) issues in its delivery. Well, let's just wait for the next episode shall we? perhaps JC staff will get serious and make #1 episode in the whole anime history (*grins/sarcasm*) |
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Vladz0r said: That's like Toaki90 said: being said as the pinnacle of his work.. But to be honest, this is nowhere near Clannad after story level That's like complaining about Umineko after watching Higurashi, and saying "That's the pinnacle of Ryukishi's work?" This adaptation is more hyped than the source material, when it's clearly had a few (haha) issues in its delivery. It's just I read it a while ago where the writers said something like, this is the pinnacle of my work (I don't really know his name, what I do know he also wrote clannad AS) So, patiently I wait for it to surprise me but up to this episode it's way below my expectation However, that doesn't change the fact that little buster is a good series thou |
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Toaki90 said: Vladz0r said: That's like Toaki90 said: being said as the pinnacle of his work.. But to be honest, this is nowhere near Clannad after story level That's like complaining about Umineko after watching Higurashi, and saying "That's the pinnacle of Ryukishi's work?" This adaptation is more hyped than the source material, when it's clearly had a few (haha) issues in its delivery. It's just I read it a while ago where the writers said something like, this is the pinnacle of my work (I don't really know his name, what I do know he also wrote clannad AS) So, patiently I wait for it to surprise me but up to this episode it's way below my expectation However, that doesn't change the fact that little buster is a good series thou Put it this way. The pinnacle of his work was the Visual Novel where he wrote the best story ever. And here we have JC Staff trying to make a copy out of that best work and we get the anime. |
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-Riptide- said: Put it this way. The pinnacle of his work was the Visual Novel where he wrote the best story ever. And here we have JC Staff trying to make a copy out of that best work and we get the anime. Is that what they were doing? Oh god, my sides. |
-Riptide- said: Toaki90 said: Vladz0r said: That's like Toaki90 said: being said as the pinnacle of his work.. But to be honest, this is nowhere near Clannad after story level That's like complaining about Umineko after watching Higurashi, and saying "That's the pinnacle of Ryukishi's work?" This adaptation is more hyped than the source material, when it's clearly had a few (haha) issues in its delivery. It's just I read it a while ago where the writers said something like, this is the pinnacle of my work (I don't really know his name, what I do know he also wrote clannad AS) So, patiently I wait for it to surprise me but up to this episode it's way below my expectation However, that doesn't change the fact that little buster is a good series thou Put it this way. The pinnacle of his work was the Visual Novel where he wrote the best story ever. And here we have JC Staff trying to make a copy out of that best work and we get the anime. Oooh, I finally get it.. I dn't follow the VN for both thou haha |
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Vladz0r said: They were trying, but failed miserably. haha-Riptide- said: Put it this way. The pinnacle of his work was the Visual Novel where he wrote the best story ever. And here we have JC Staff trying to make a copy out of that best work and we get the anime. Is that what they were doing? Oh god, my sides. |
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| I get the feeling this episode is being rated pretty heavily based on comparison with the VN.. which sucks.. Am I who loved and cried at the girls' farewells D: and that bus crash was awesome, those were enough to make up for the wtf I had this episode |
| Komari is prettier/cuter without her shooting stars in her hair |
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-Riptide- said: Komari is prettier/cuter without her shooting stars in her hair ^ Agreed :DD 1 shooting star is best, I must hate symmetry vry much |
koagzero said: -Riptide- said: Komari is prettier/cuter without her shooting stars in her hair ^ Agreed :DD 1 shooting star is best, I must hate symmetry vry much You wont get along with Death the Kid then. No shooting stars are better though. Thats why I liked the scene with her on the bed in her route. |
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| Komari with no stars makes me hard. |
Vladz0r said: Komari with no stars makes me hard. This |
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JimRaynor said: koagzero said: I get the feeling this episode is being rated pretty heavily based on comparison with the VN.. which sucks.. Am I who loved and cried at the girls' farewells D: and that bus crash was awesome, those were enough to make up for the wtf I had this episode No, you're not the only one, and the anime only viewer doesn't care about the differences. I as a VN reader feel this episode is really good too. KyoAni also changed the way to present the last part of Clannad After Story to fit the anime form. JC Staff was just doing it for same reason. A good change for me though. If VN readers want 100% copy of original material just go read VN again. Clannad Animes don't give you the same shit as original VN as well. Totally agree with you. If I wanted a 100% copy of the VN I should have read the VN again. I'm happy with the adaptation and I can see the mistakes made by the studio, but bitching about it won't help so I just enjoy what I get (I yet didn't see a perfect adaptation done by any studio) ^^ I feel like in every episode talk there is a circlejerk of VN players that destroy fun discussions of the anime only viewers, talking about their biased opinions and unoriginal content added by J.C. Staff, music displacement etc. |
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| I see all the spoilers are out in full force in these comments. Don't know why I bother anymore. |
| For starters: Yes, for those who are a fan of the visual novel have the true ending sounds weird right off the bat, I did not care much for the hospital scene and the repentance of the two survivors, but the comments I have seen here, further making the relationship with CLANNAD (no link, by the way), Little Busters! the miracle of Key would become totally unnecessary and only fill sausage in history sorry fans, but JC Staff nailed it! JC Staff mostrand that KyoAni has only visual even though he loved all the works of key adapted by studio JC Staff sent a lot of loyalty in the series in every episode, and if miracle in Clannad, YES, it would be ridiculous to skip pro true ending, but in Little Busters! is different, Rin and Riki need to prove they have grown and this is the only way, not running more. I do not know why they are criticizing both, if they had not done it would not fit everything into 13 episodes. |
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