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| Wow, what a brilliant episode. Especially the last scene with myoue and the disappearing yase and dog and him turning koto back to normal. some moments were confusing as always but reading the theories here cleared lots of it. |
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| To Takuan_Soho, So some things that's been on my mind: 1) Why exactly did Bunny Koto have those dreams of Mirror Capital getting destroyed? I know that's not really the reason she had to leave. She had to leave mainly because she had to return the body to the Goddess (But in the end, she still hasn't?? I don't get that either). And Inari leaves with her because he loves her. However, there was implication that the power of creation was needed to keep Mirror Capital "stable" (from the talk between Kurama and Yakushimaru) so I'm assuming Inari gave Yakushimaru the power of creation to not only give him the power to make his own world, but to keep Mirror Capital "stable" while he's gone. But then I think I'm missing a piece of information about why the Mirror Capital started falling apart when MC Koto revealed a gateway to the capital to the rest of the parallel universes, even with Yakushimaru. Maybe I'm completely wrong, or forgetting something. 2) I get that Inari makes the ultimate sacrifice to save Yakushimaru. However, isn't it going a little too overboard to try and destroy all the universes just to get the point across that Yakushimaru has to actually do something? As a God, isn't that sort of irresponsible? Although I wouldn't disagree that Inari would do something like that casually, I still think sacrificing the whole universe just so that his son can live in a new one seems overly selfish and whimsical. I'm not trying to disagree, I'm just trying to see if the focus of the plan is not just on Yakushimaru but for something else. Like there's more to the plan than just Yakushimaru recreating the universe. 3) So Inari's sword acts as a key to other universes. How does that power lead to MC Koto becoming emotionless, and the Head Priest fainting/dying? Maybe it "closes" Koto's heart?? Many more but these are the three that came on my mind. |
| I don't know what's bigger disappointment, this or Galilei Donna. |
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| I absolutely loved the dialogue in this episode and the roles of all of the characters as the series heads towards its conclusion. Everything is coming together so well. I definitely did not think that this series would grow on me so much when I initially started watching it, but I'm going to miss it when it's over. |
| Fantastic episode, particularly the second half. Thankfully, the insert song was well used and it finally feels like this story is coming to a close. Inari is still quite the mysterious character. Though his actions this episode would speak otherwise, I still don't see him as the villain or the Bad Guy, I believe he just has his own way of doing things. Everything is now set up for the 'Grand Finale' and I have no doubt in my mind that Kyousougiga will deliver. |
| Oh men ;_: Very cute episode. |
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| 10:28 wut It was meh. 6/10 for this episode. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| Love when they use english songs for the soundtrack. Good episode, but I wasn't emotionally attached to the characters |
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| Witnessing one of the most promising show this season becoming mediocre. |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
DawnJ said: Witnessing one of the most promising show this season becoming mediocre. Nowhere near as bad as what happened to Samurai Flamenco. |
| (English isn't my first language, so i apologize in advance for any mistakes) Whoa, what an amazing episode. I was always really digging insert songs in animes, and Kyousogiga made proof of that again. I would even go that far to call it one of my favorite animes, if they weren't a few things I just don't understand. If someone got the time to read this through and even type an answer you would REALLY help me out, just because I love this anime and really WANT to understand it completely! ;.; 1) a) I don't get the whole reincarnation thing. Let me recap a bit before my actual question comes: The way I understood, Inari and the Head Priest are children of the actual, christian (?) God. Inari was given the power of creation, mankind, however, was created by his father (Inari mentions humans would have "suddenly" appeared and everything went "crazy" after they did... doesn't sound like his creation at all but I might be wrong). People feared Inari and made him live all by himself in the mountains. I don't get how that made him a monk and why he changed his name but that's not too important to me. So then there's the Mirror Capital and one day he & Lady Koto return from it. What exactly happened then? Many years later when MC Koto lives, Inari is his younger self. I get that he's reincarnated, but that means he DIED, right? How? When? o_o b) I'm pretty sure on this but I want to make sure: Am I right when I say Inari and the siblings age extremely slow? Like, from the time Earth was created until the who-knows-what-century Episode 01 takes place in, Inari, being a God, only aged up to his thirties (from the way he looks). Between that somewhat ancient century and the futuristic time MC Koto lives in, reincarnated Inari (who started from baby again I guess?) aged up to his teen years. And those 14 years MC Koto has lived were too short a time for him to noticably change. Same for the siblings: In Episode 01 Yakushimaru wonders how long they would have to stay children. Then there's a time skip and they're all adults. In Episode 03, Kurama mentions to Koto that they watched this place for "very, very long time", so I guess thousand of years passed (in the "normal world": ancient century from Episode 01 - futuristic time from Episode 02). Am I right? :O 2) I still don't get MC Koto. Lady Koto mentions she saw her when she was a baby, and also that she inherited her powers at birth. So, is she her ACTUAL baby? Like, born from her body? And what about Inari: He calls her "his other self". But isn't she just his daughter? However, both contradicts what he says in this episode, about how she was born by "someone else", or something like that. Didn't get that part at all. God my head hurts from thinking about these things for so long x_x If someone would explain obvious things I have missed I'd be very grateful ;.; |
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| Amazing episode, well-directed and the insert-song "The Story of my Life" was utterly beautiful and really touching, it was the best choice in that moment. Btw, need Finale right now. DawnJ said: Witnessing one of the most promising show this season becoming mediocre. I think we have a different meaning of "mediocre". Takuan_Soho said: pakoko said: only to have them taken away by a whimsical God, Inari. I can't help but hate Inari for that, and also because it seems like he's just selfishly giving up his responsibilities to MC Koto and Yakushimaru... Inari is not the bad guy. Think of this show on an individual basis (Myoue). Inari is still trying to save Myoue. Though he "saved" him by replacing his heart, as the last episode showed, Myoue still rejected this second chance at life; Inari created a brother and sister for Myoue, but Myoue never accepted their love, and instead selfishly shut himself off from everyone. Still trying to save Myoue, Inari gave over his ability to create, hoping that Myoue would use it to reincarnate himself, but Myoue, still denying life refused to, creating the stasis of the Capital. This is why everyone was tired, the monk brother, Inari, they kept trying to save Myoue, but the simple fact is that unless someone wants to live nothing you can do can save them. Inari's last gambit was to use Koto to destroy the universe, what good is the world if people can't be saved (not only is this a buddhist thought, but it is also in the Kabblah and Christian gnosticism)? This is what Inari meant when he told Bunny Koto that he would explain later: Inari knows exactly what he is doing: everything was done to get Myoue to use the power to create a new universe, one where Myoue would want to live. So far from Inari being selfish, he is actually willing to sacrifice everything, including himself, to save Myoue. Thank you, this was quite helpful. |
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| i just don't know anymore |
| Not sure why Inari is an asshole all of a sudden, but okay. Even if he's doing it for the greater good, or whatever, he's doing it in a very devious way. Quite honestly, I enjoyed this series more when it was exploring each of the characters and their feelings and issues. It had this nice emotional resonance to it. I understand that they had to get back to the story, and that they had to deal with some type of conflict in the end, but there's just something missing now. |
Thalandor46 said: Does the insert song have a name? Has it been released yet? Which insert song do you mean? The last one during Myoue's running? |
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Thalandor46 said: Does the insert song have a name? Has it been released yet? This one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPPYHxlx9cA |
| So Inari brought the end... but Yakushimaru is the beginning. Very interesting. |
migohunterDec 17, 2013 12:56 AM
| Powerful eyebrows. |
Takuan_Soho said: pakoko said: only to have them taken away by a whimsical God, Inari. I can't help but hate Inari for that, and also because it seems like he's just selfishly giving up his responsibilities to MC Koto and Yakushimaru... Inari is not the bad guy. Think of this show on an individual basis (Myoue). Inari is still trying to save Myoue. Though he "saved" him by replacing his heart, as the last episode showed, Myoue still rejected this second chance at life; Inari created a brother and sister for Myoue, but Myoue never accepted their love, and instead selfishly shut himself off from everyone. Still trying to save Myoue, Inari gave over his ability to create, hoping that Myoue would use it to reincarnate himself, but Myoue, still denying life refused to, creating the stasis of the Capital. This is why everyone was tired, the monk brother, Inari, they kept trying to save Myoue, but the simple fact is that unless someone wants to live nothing you can do can save them. Inari's last gambit was to use Koto to destroy the universe, what good is the world if people can't be saved (not only is this a buddhist thought, but it is also in the Kabblah and Christian gnosticism)? This is what Inari meant when he told Bunny Koto that he would explain later: Inari knows exactly what he is doing: everything was done to get Myoue to use the power to create a new universe, one where Myoue would want to live. So far from Inari being selfish, he is actually willing to sacrifice everything, including himself, to save Myoue. Kentaku said: Oh, and why is Inari so small? Most likely because he gave most of his power (the ability to create) to Myoue. Love your insights Takuan, clears up things a little bit. :) |
| Powerful eyebrows. |
| Strange episode, the next episode preview looks fun though. |
| Kyousougiga is really amazing, it was sad to see characters fading away. |
| I just realized that the guy with the spirits at around 15:24 is Hachiman from episode 2, the boy that challenged Koto and got owned :P Kyousogiga with that attention to detail. |
| Wow. This episode sure was... something. Koto's and the father's speeches were touching... then BAM! chaos! destroy it all! Did not see things going quite that direction. |
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| http://puu.sh/5VOph ^ lol I seriously just watched them walk across the screen xD felt like such a loong time Thank you Takuan_Soho for helping me understand Inari's position. I also previously saw him as the "bad guy" =P but it's not so black and white. |
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| Damn nice, this sure was a great episode! I really wonder what the last episode has to offer but damn this already made it damn good! |
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| That was the most offhanded explanation of the world's history I've ever seen. It's also probably the oddest case of "I'll explain later" I've seen thus far. I mean, wow. |
ShockedNov 13, 2014 9:50 PM
| Intense episode! |
| So man things are happening so quickly! I cant keep up! It doesn't help that i put this episode off for about a month. I just didn't want it to end! =[ Lets see how the finale goes. I hope i dont cry. |
| Be sure to message me if you quoted me and want me to respond! Just give me a link to the forum, because usually I leave my comment, then leave the forum. |
| Episode that brings into play the last remnants of the plot still at large; now the picture of the situation is complete. Very satisfied with the plot and narrative, drawings cute and well animated, impressive and catchy soundtrack, I always liked to listen to. |
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| Wow, I knew Inari was creepy, but I didn't expect him to be such a selfish moron. He says his father left and never returned, but that's exactly what he did to his children. Then he just built his own world putting the whole universe's balance at risk. Great. Let's hope Yakushimaru-Myoue and Koto work everything out and nobody's existence gets erased. |
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| Inari is like "I'll destroy everything, so that one person, Myoue can finally be happy in a rebooted reality. Everyone else in this reality can go screw themselves lmao". I get that he's doing it out of love, but at what cost? Is this altruism gone wrong? Is Kyousougiga objectivist propaganda? |ง།°╭͜ʖ╮°།|ง I also kind of feel cheated; Koto was built up as this super badass who is super-duper special, but this episode makes her seem inconsequential, just like Myoue's other siblings. This shouldn't detract any value from their character development in previous episodes, but it still kind of stings. In any case, Myoue still has my sympathy, and his reunion with Koto at the end was rewarding all the same. With all that in mind, this was episode was a thrilling ride; confusing and frustrating as it was. Bravo. |
LeeTailorMay 5, 2017 5:11 PM
| I really don't like this turn of events... I kiiiind of get what Inari wants to do, but this is a fucking irresponsible way to do it. What if his point didn't get across? Then every world would just disappear? All this to maybe save one "kid" and let him live in a world where he wants to? This just seems really stupid :/ And now Koto seems like she is just a tool, when before this she was more like a main character. I very much hope that this will have a more meaningful ending, since it pretty much went down from a 9/10 to a 8/10 with this episode :( |
RazielZeroDec 2, 2017 5:35 PM
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| Mind blown. Totally had no idea what Inari was trying to do until I read this thread. Thank god Myoue isn't as dense as me. |
| The priest mentioned Inari's reincarnation, interesting. So, is Koto Inari A, and Inari is, well, Inari B? Yase got her memory back, apparently. I hope this subplot will be utilized in a useful way instead of just putting Yase to the side in order to give other characters enough time. Wooden crosses at the end were probably not random. My earlier observation regarding the cradle was correct, yay! Inari is not the bad guy. Think of this show on an individual basis (Myoue). Inari is still trying to save Myoue. Though he "saved" him by replacing his heart, as the last episode showed, Myoue still rejected this second chance at life; Inari created a brother and sister for Myoue, but Myoue never accepted their love, and instead selfishly shut himself off from everyone. Still trying to save Myoue, Inari gave over his ability to create, hoping that Myoue would use it to reincarnate himself, but Myoue, still denying life refused to, creating the stasis of the Capital. This is why everyone was tired, the monk brother, Inari, they kept trying to save Myoue, but the simple fact is that unless someone wants to live nothing you can do can save them. Inari's last gambit was to use Koto to destroy the universe, what good is the world if people can't be saved (not only is this a buddhist thought, but it is also in the Kabblah and Christian gnosticism)? This is what Inari meant when he told Bunny Koto that he would explain later: Inari knows exactly what he is doing: everything was done to get Myoue to use the power to create a new universe, one where Myoue would want to live. So far from Inari being selfish, he is actually willing to sacrifice everything, including himself, to save Myoue. ... Kentaku said: Oh, and why is Inari so small? Most likely because he gave most of his power (the ability to create) to Myoue. My memory is a bit taxed right now, so please point out things that I am missing or mis-remembered something, but I am pretty sure the reason Momma_Koto had to leave was because the Shrine required it. The master said that the monitoring device on her had been destroyed. Why she was banished to the moon I think was a joke, in Japan the "man in the moon" is a "Rabbit Pounding Mochi cakes" (this is also why Sailor Moon had a Rabbit (in Japanese Usagi) connection. Also recall that when the Mirror began to collapse she said "it wasn't me", implying that she had thought this as well. Great insight as always. I love how Inari's sword functions as a key because it's also used to travel between different worlds. P.S. That Shrine maiden just left without the head priest lol. |
St0rmbladeDec 16, 2020 4:44 PM
| Inari always did give me creepy vibes so I'm not surprised that he's not exactly the good guy here. But he does seem to a method to his madness, so we'll see how all of this ends. |
Rebelhero said: So man things are happening so quickly! I cant keep up! It doesn't help that i put this episode off for about a month. I just didn't want it to end! =[ Lets see how the finale goes. I hope i dont cry. Way too many things happening at once. |
| There's a lot I really enjoy about this show, but it's just going completely off-the-rails plotwise now. From the haphazard explanation of the end-of-the-universe plot point (that should have been more than just foreshadowed well before this) to Inari just casually declaring himself as God without any context, all the way to the insane decision to transform the main character into a literal plot device, it's all just a series of baffling writing decisions that I can't wrap my head around. Also, I get that Inari is basically a sociopath (as has been obvious ever since the first Yakushimaru flashback), but I don't get why he'd do all of this just for Myoue/Yakushimaru. Selfishly bringing him back to life and granting him immortality when he didn't want it was one thing, but trying to destroy all of reality to make him act is bafflingly selfish and irresponsible even by Inari's standards. Why force all of this onto Myoue rather than letting him decide for himself the life he wants to live and the fate he wants? |
| Something about trying to help someone suicidal? You want to die and leave everyone behind so I will get rid of everyone so you could live in another world seems like a not so good lesson about the importance of life or maybe I just don't get this. |
| Mixed up feelings and well not really a good idea. This kind of things are bring the story line out of nowhere. Moments are build-up well but the story seems blurry. This should be a Drama Fantasy, not Action for real. |
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