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Oct 22, 2013 5:31 AM
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Here are the weekly Blu-ray & CD rankings for Oct 14th - Oct 20th

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

Blu-ray
*1, 27,540 27,540 Shingeki no Kyojin vol.4
*2, 10,884 10,884 Hanasaku Iroha: Home Sweet Home
*3, *8,281 *8,281 Hatarakou Maou-sama! vol.4
*4, *1,546 *1,546 Rozen Maiden (2013) vol.3
*5, *1,516 18,360 Free! vol.2
*6, *1,197 *1,197 Devil Survivor 2 the Animation vol.5
*7, *1,076 33,775 Shingeki no Kyojin vol.3
*8, **,975 37,382 Love Live! School Idol Project vol.7
(cut-off 975)


DVD
*1, 11,327 *,*11,327 Shingeki no Kyojin vol.4
*2, *1,592 *,*13,498 Free! vol.2
*3, *1,558 *,**1,558 Hatarakou Maou-sama! vol.4
*4, *1,014 1,218,310 Tonari no Totoro
*5, **,958 *,*25,200 Dragon Ball Z Movie 14: Kami to Kami - Regular Edition
*6, **,761 *,*15,881 Usavich Season 5
*7, **,740 *,***,740 Hanasaku Iroha: Home Sweet Home
*8, **,616 *,***,616 Devil Survivor 2 the Animation vol.5
*9, **,546 *,***,546 Makai Ouji: Devils and Realist vol.2
10, **,497 *,*15,723 Shingeki no Kyojin vol.3
11, **,494 *,519,989 Majo no Takkyuubin
12, **,432 *,***,432 Cardfight!! Vanguard: Link Joker-hen vol.6
13, **,379 *,363,576 Mononoke Hime
14, **,351 2,391,648 Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi
15, **,349 *,776,213 Tenkuu no Shiro Laputa
(cut-off 349)


CD Single
10, 16,715 *16,715 Kuroko no Basket 2 OP "The Other self"
16, *5,778 *40,103 Log Horizon OP "database feat. TAKUMA(10-FEET)"
35, *1,527 223,239 Shingeki no Kyojin OP "Jiyuu e no Shingeki"
40, *1,372 *16,220 Kara no Kyoukai: Mirai Fukuin theme song "Alleluia"
42, *1,339 **5,180 Monogatari Second Season ED "Sono Koe wo Oboeteru"
47, *1,144 **1,144 Cardfight!! Vanguard: Link Joker-hen ED "Ride on fight!"
(cut-off 1,000)


CD Album
*9, 7,319 *7,319 Kill Me Baby "Super Best Album CD" (bundled with OVA)
20, 3,291 16,126 J-AniSong Kamikyoku-Matsuri -Paradise- [DJ-Kazu in No.1 MuneAtsu MIX]
24, 2,490 10,704 T.M.Revolution "Geisha Boy - Anime Song Experience"
31, 2,028 16,011 The IdolM@ster Cinderella Master: Cute jewelries! 001
33, 1,900 *1,900 Haiyore! Nyaruko-san W best album "Jareikyoku-tachi"
36, 1,860 *1,860 Shingeki no Kyojin radio CD "Shingeki no Kyojin Radio ~Kaji to Shimono no Susume! Denpa Heidan~" vol.1
41, 1,723 *1,723 Pretty Rhythm: Rainbow Live "Prism☆Solo Collection" by Bell & Otoha & Wakana
(cut-off 1,000)


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symbvOct 22, 2013 6:03 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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Oct 22, 2013 5:32 AM
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2013 Summer Preliminary First Volume Sales

Key: Total - # Weeks Charted - Title - Format ranked - Release Date

32,153 *5 Free! [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/11
12,802 *2 Senki Zesshou Symphogear G [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/02
12,384 *3 Brothers Conflict [BD+DVD]: 2013/08/21
------ 10,000 Line ------
*9,676 *2 Highschool DxD New [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/25
*6,963 *2 Kiniro Mosaic [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/25
*6,898 *2 Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya [BD]: 2013/09/27
*6,650 *3 Dangan Ronpa the Animation [BD+DVD]: 2013/08/28
*5,473 *2 Kimi no Iru Machi [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/25
*5,375 *3 Servant x Service [BD+DVD]: 2013/08/21
*5,001 *3 Love Lab [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/20
*4,356 *2 Choujigen Game Neptune the Animation [BD]: 2013/09/25
*3,682 *2 Ro-Kyu-Bu! SS [BD]: 2013/09/25
---- Manabi Line (2899) ----
*2,601 *1 Gin no Saji: Silver Spoon [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/18
*2,399 *2 Uchouten Kazoku [BD]: 2013/09/25
*2,370 *1 Makai Ouji: Devils and Realist [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/18
*2,072 *2 Rozen Maiden (2013) [BD]: 2013/08/30
*1,205 *1 Watashi ga Motenai nowa Dou Kangaetemo Omaera ga Warui! [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/02
**,932 *1 Genei wo Kakeru Taiyou [BD]: 2013/09/25
**,908 *1 Fantatista Doll [BD]: 2013/09/20
**,809 *1 Genshiken Nidaime [BD]: 2013/09/04
**,656 *1 Kamisama no Inai Nichiyoubi [BD]: 2013/09/25
**,558 *1 Kitakubu Katsudou Kiroku [BD]: 2013/09/18
**,455 *1 Inu to Hasami wa Tsukaiyou [BD]: 2013/09/20
**,267 *1 Stella Jogakuin Koutou-ka C³-bu [BD]: 2013/09/18
**,*** ** Blood Lad [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/27
**,*** ** Recorder to Landsel Mi☆ [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/02


(BD not ranked; need full week data later this week)
Futari wa Milky Holmes [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/16

(not yet on sale or sales data not yet available)
Monogatari Second Season [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/23
Senyuu2 [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/25
Teekyuu2 [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/25
Gifuu Doudou!!: Kanetsugu to Keiji [DVD]: 2013/10/25
Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai: Megami-hen [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/30
Tamayura: More Aggressive [BD+DVD]: 2013/10/30
Gatchaman Crowds [BD+DVD]: 2014/01/22
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 22, 2013 5:41 AM
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What a shame, we'll need to wait till the end of the week to know whether symphogear reached 13k.

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Oct 22, 2013 5:47 AM
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*2, 10,884 10,884 Hanasaku Iroha: Home Sweet Home
^Good that it's 2nd can't wait for subs to come out :3!!

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Oct 22, 2013 5:48 AM
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I'm glad the reschedule of Hataraku's vol 4 didn't affect the sales.


10, 16,715 *16,715 Kuroko no Basket 2 OP "The Other self"
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Oct 22, 2013 5:49 AM
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The BIGGEST news in this week is this :

*9, 7,319 *7,319 Kill Me Baby "Super Best Album CD" (bundled with OVA)

Given its BD sold just a few hundred it is an amazing comeback. If it is counted in the BD chart it would even make #4. Anyway, being in top 10 of the weekly album chart is quite an achievement already. And this just proves what I have been saying, that Kill Me Baby is a franchise that got very poor anime disc sales but yet retain a high level of popularity. I never cease to be amazed at how many people still talk about this anime or making references about it so long after the anime has ended.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 22, 2013 6:01 AM
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symbv said:

41, 1,723 *1,723 Pretty Rhythm: Rainbow Live "Prism☆Solo Collection" by Beru & Otoha & Wakana


The preview for episode 29 shows "Bell" instead of "Beru".
Nothing is bad for being in any genre or demographic, especially anime for kids.
Oct 22, 2013 6:02 AM
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murazrai said:
symbv said:

41, 1,723 *1,723 Pretty Rhythm: Rainbow Live "Prism☆Solo Collection" by Beru & Otoha & Wakana
The preview for episode 29 shows "Bell" instead of "Beru".
You mean the word "Bell" was actually shown on the TV screen? In the post I was just transliterating the Japanese ベル, but if there is an official English translation for the word I can use that too.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 22, 2013 6:07 AM
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nice 31k for free! v2
hope it maintains a ~30k average with the other volumes c:
Oct 22, 2013 6:09 AM
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symbv said:
You mean the word "Bell" was actually shown on the TV screen? In the post I was just transliterating the Japanese ベル, but if there is an official English translation for the word I can use that too.


Indeed. Specifically, a name plate on a clothing rack which appeared during the episode 29 preview shows "Bell Selection" in cursive writing. Then again, there was a confusion whether it was "Bell" or "Beru".
Nothing is bad for being in any genre or demographic, especially anime for kids.
Oct 22, 2013 6:13 AM

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^ Well, as far as transliteration is concerned, Beru is correct, but if the character is someone who has only English name and got a Japanese name by having the name converted into katakana, then we should always follow her original English name. And if such information is not available, then I'd say both Beru and Bell are correct, but then if the anime itself is showing her name as Bell then I guess we should write it as Bell.


Haine15 said:
*2, 10,884 10,884 Hanasaku Iroha: Home Sweet Home
^Good that it's 2nd can't wait for subs to come out :3!!
Actually it is substantially lower than the Stalker prediction, which is 18.2k BD+DVD (with 1.1k being DVD), and its sales is not much higher than the TV series sales (which is what is expected for a movie with new contents), so viewed in this way fans in Japan treat the result as a bit of a disappointment.
symbvOct 22, 2013 6:20 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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16, *5,778 *40,103 Log Horizon OP "database feat. TAKUMA(10-FEET)"^^

passed the 40k mark

second weak 5778 sales i hope it will keep up at this amount
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symbv said:
The BIGGEST news in this week is this :

*9, 7,319 *7,319 Kill Me Baby "Super Best Album CD" (bundled with OVA)

Given its BD sold just a few hundred it is an amazing comeback. If it is counted in the BD chart it would even make #4. Anyway, being in top 10 of the weekly album chart is quite an achievement already. And this just proves what I have been saying, that Kill Me Baby is a franchise that got very poor anime disc sales but yet retain a high level of popularity. I never cease to be amazed at how many people still talk about this anime or making references about it so long after the anime has ended.

Why did the Japanese fans not like it? I watched a couple of episodes and thought it was hilarious. Which makes me want to ask, what comedy anime are more successful? because most of the comedy anime I like and find funny seem to have bad sales or not high enough sales ( ex: Nichijou, Danshi koukousei no nichijou, Baka to test)
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symbv said:

**,*** ** Blood Lad [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/27

Can anyone tell me what does these **,*** ** mean? Does that mean that it has sold so less that it's not even numbered? lol
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Natsu12345 said:
symbv said:

**,*** ** Blood Lad [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/27

Can anyone tell me what does these **,*** ** mean? Does that mean that it has sold so less that it's not even numbered? lol

Yes, it was below the threshold
Oct 22, 2013 6:58 AM

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tsudecimo said:
Why did the Japanese fans not like it? I watched a couple of episodes and thought it was hilarious.
I still remember vividly the reactions from fans when Kill Me Baby was on air. Many comments about how half an hour feels like hours. How repetitive are the look and feel. How hypnotizing it is. How few characters there are... There are tons of AA (ascii arts) and jokes about how fans said they watched the OP, slept for 20 min and then woke up to catch the ED again lol. But as the series progressed, hypnotizing became mesmerizing and more and more watchers confessed that elements of the visual, the sound, and the jokes were hard to get rid of from the head. Some of the Kill Me Baby jokes became constant currency in forums like 2ch (like the one with Yasuna claiming something she is going to recommend is going to be interesting and confidently said Sonia could bury her under the tree if it is not the case - of course we know what happens afterwards). And not sure if it is by word of mouth or social networking, the series became a sort of cult classic. The fact that Kill Me Baby and its jokes are still being referenced means that there are quite many people who have seen the work or at least know about it - it is well recognized.

tsudecimo said:
Which makes me want to ask, what comedy anime are more successful? because most of the comedy anime I like and find funny seem to have bad sales or not high enough sales ( ex: Nichijou, Danshi koukousei no nichijou, Baka to test)
BakaTest 1st season sold well though. And Danshi koukousei no Nichijou and Nichijou are both a bit like Kill Me Baby, though to a lesser extent: I mean both do have some recognition and there are some fan base to the works (although both seem to pale when compared with Kill Me Baby), but neither proved successful at BD/DVD sales. In Danshi's case, feedback at the time when it was aired was pretty good, but on the other hand, not many people think that this is something worth paying a small fortune (anime BDs are not cheap) to own.

In term of good anime BD/DVD sales for pure comedy (not drama+comedy like OreGairu, Chu2byo or Haganai), there are comedies like Working!, Hidamari Sketch, Hetalia, Yuru Yuri and I would count Dog Days as well (1st season has some drama though) and maybe Nyaruko-san and Ika-musume (both 1st season)
symbvOct 22, 2013 7:17 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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symbv said:

CD Single
35, *1,527 223,239 Shingeki no Kyojin OP "Jiyuu e no Shingeki"
40, *1,372 *16,220 Kara no Kyoukai: Mirai Fukuin theme song "Alleluia"
42, *1,339 **5,180 Monogatari Second Season ED "Sono Koe wo Oboeteru"

CD Album
24, 2,490 10,704 T.M.Revolution "Geisha Boy - Anime Song Experience"
36, 1,860 *1,860 Shingeki no Kyojin radio CD "Shingeki no Kyojin Radio ~Kaji to Shimono no Susume! Denpa Heidan~" vol.1

Not much that interests me is on the ranking.
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Natsu12345 said:
symbv said:

**,*** ** Blood Lad [BD+DVD]: 2013/09/27
Can anyone tell me what does these **,*** ** mean? Does that mean that it has sold so less that it's not even numbered? lol
In short, the title was not charted at all so there is no number to report. Of course it does not mean the actual sales was zero. In Blood Lad's case, the threshold for charting in the full weekly BD chart was 630 for the week when Blood Lad vol.1 was released, so it means Blood Lad vol.1 had to sell <630 BDs that week. For DVD the threshold was even higher (like 800 something). It is entirely possible that Blood Lad actually sold 1400 BD+DVD that week and still would not be charted, although more likely it should have sold quite a bit fewer than that.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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Haine15 said:
*2, 10,884 10,884 Hanasaku Iroha: Home Sweet Home
^Good that it's 2nd can't wait for subs to come out :3!!


Yup same here :3
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I thought SnK vol 4 would have done a bit better considering ost 2 was included if I'm not mistaken...
5 main aspects I base my ratings on:
1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it?
2. Is it better than Breaking Bad?
3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it?
4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL?
5. Is it actually good?

Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant...
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Am glad Hanasaku Iroha BDs sold well. Am proud to be one of them :D
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10, 16,715 *16,715 Kuroko no Basket 2 OP "The Other self"

YeY~ keep it up Kuroko no Basuke! <3

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KMB has pretty successfully marketed its own failure.
Hmm.. Not sure if this is the right way to put it, because I never see KMB dwelling on its failure when they keep up the trickle of merchandise which now turns into a small wave with this best album (coming with OVA) and later the BD Box. Fans do remember its failure at sales from time to time but I am sure not it is a deliberate marketing strategy driven by the anime production. Besides I see more references to its jokes and humor than talks about its poor sales when people mention KMB.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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slow week, Kill me Baby OVA sold pretty well unlike the TV anime, but it can be attributed to it being bundled with a CD, a lot of anime music CDs sell 7300+ even if it's from an anime that sold dismally.


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slow week, Kill me Baby OVA sold pretty well unlike the TV anime, but it can be attributed to it being bundled with a CD, a lot of anime music CDs sell 7300+ even if it's from an anime that sold dismally.
But those CD usually have big name artists or series which have a strong music element I think?

One thing that definitely helps though is that the price of the CD+OAD is very reasonable, so the boosting effect of having the OAD included is particularly prominent.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 22, 2013 11:51 AM

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Hatarakou Maou-sama! both regular DVD and Blu Ray selling well i'm really hoping for a 2nd season here
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symbv said:
*8, **,975 37,382 Love Live! School Idol Project vol.7

Expectation that Vol 7 passing through the 40K threshold is very likely. That's almost 55% of the seats for the 2-day concert at Saitama Super Area. Now if they can find another 25%, the concert will be considered as a success.
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symbv said:
*1, 27,540 27,540 Shingeki no Kyojin vol.4
*2, 10,884 10,884 Hanasaku Iroha: Home Sweet Home
*3, *8,281 *8,281 Hatarakou Maou-sama! vol.4

Great top 3! Cant wait to see Hanasaku movie.
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Besides I see more references to its jokes and humor than talks about its poor sales when people mention KMB.


Correct. KMB wasn't notable because of poor sales. Lots of anime bomb. It was notable because 2ch treated it as a big joke - basically, that cheap, boring, and unfunny show that you needed to bully and mock!

This negative attention brought a lot of viewers to the show, most of whom were there to join in the mockery. Unexpectedly though, several viewers actually liked KMB (bear in mind that the humor and pacing varied from episode to episode, so this was bound to happen to some extent) and a cult following emerged. These days, it's sort of a champion for underrated/unfairly condemned anime.

slow week, Kill me Baby OVA sold pretty well unlike the TV anime, but it can be attributed to it being bundled with a CD, a lot of anime music CDs sell 7300+ even if it's from an anime that sold dismally.


Was there much demand for KMB music? From what's being reported, stores are actually out of stock.....
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Glad that SnK and Free! are still doing pretty well. :)

When is Tokyo Raven's OP single coming out, by the way?
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Hataraku <3

Hopefully a group will pick up Hanasaku. I've been wanting to watch that movie for a while now.

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Laciie said:
Glad that SnK and Free! are still doing pretty well. :)

When is Tokyo Raven's OP single coming out, by the way?
Tokyo Ravens OP X-Encounter comes out November 6th, the ED 3 weeks later on the 27th.
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Laciie said:
Glad that SnK and Free! are still doing pretty well. :)

When is Tokyo Raven's OP single coming out, by the way?
Tokyo Ravens OP X-Encounter comes out November 6th, the ED 3 weeks later on the 27th.


Ahh, I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully it will sell well, I'll be buying it as well.
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There are a lot of good OP & ED songs this season. Could get expensive...
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I'll need to finish watching HanaIro now.
Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.
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Laciie said:
hpulley said:
Laciie said:
Glad that SnK and Free! are still doing pretty well. :)

When is Tokyo Raven's OP single coming out, by the way?
Tokyo Ravens OP X-Encounter comes out November 6th, the ED 3 weeks later on the 27th.


Ahh, I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully it will sell well, I'll be buying it as well.


Nice. I was watching Tokyo Ravens and was like, hmmm guess I'll give this show a chance...then the OP came on and I was like WHOA WHAT IS THIS?! lol. That OP is sooooo catchy. Hope it does well.
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Correct. KMB wasn't notable because of poor sales. Lots of anime bomb. It was notable because 2ch treated it as a big joke - basically, that cheap, boring, and unfunny show that you needed to bully and mock!

This negative attention brought a lot of viewers to the show, most of whom were there to join in the mockery. Unexpectedly though, several viewers actually liked KMB (bear in mind that the humor and pacing varied from episode to episode, so this was bound to happen to some extent) and a cult following emerged. These days, it's sort of a champion for underrated/unfairly condemned anime.
I would say the process of some viewers actually started to like KMB started somewhere in the middle of the series. Calling it mesmerizing or comments like "it is repetitive it is even boring but somehow I keep watching till the end and then I watch it again the next week..." were common.

For comparison, another anime which gets talked a lot in 2ch where people like to treat as a big joke to be bullied and mocked is Fractale but it never got beyond that status. Of course the troll status of Yamakan the director may have helped the anime to get stuck in the mocking target category but I would say that even those who were brought to the show by the negative attention do not find much merit or appeal for them to switch their opinion.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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Glad that SnK and Free! are still doing pretty well. :)

When is Tokyo Raven's OP single coming out, by the way?
Tokyo Ravens OP X-Encounter comes out November 6th, the ED 3 weeks later on the 27th.


Ahh, I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully it will sell well, I'll be buying it as well.


Nice. I was watching Tokyo Ravens and was like, hmmm guess I'll give this show a chance...then the OP came on and I was like WHOA WHAT IS THIS?! lol. That OP is sooooo catchy. Hope it does well.


I'm thinking of buying the CD, but I doubt I'll be buying the BDs though. I haven't seen much this season that is wow I want this BD right now although I've been and still considering Yu-Sibu, but that's pretty much it.


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There are a lot of good OP & ED songs this season. Could get expensive...
Somehow by this stage I remember fewer OP/ED in this season compared to the last few seasons. Not sure why but just seems that they are not making the same impression. And quite a few OP/ED just sound similar to previous songs from the same artist: Coppelion OP to K OP, Strike the Blood OP to Highschool of the Dead OP....
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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What i'm looking forward to see the most is Diabolik Lovers sales. That show totally caught me off guard and gives me serious lulz. It's garbage, but somehow i can't seem to stop watching it. Here's some hope that the BD/DVD gonna come out as fast as possible so i can bathe myself in some more lulz
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What i'm looking forward to see the most is Diabolik Lovers sales. That show totally caught me off guard and gives me serious lulz. It's garbage, but somehow i can't seem to stop watching it. Here's some hope that the BD/DVD gonna come out as fast as possible so i can bathe myself in some more lulz
There are a few things unique about the discs of Diabolik Lovers that I want to bring to attention:

1. The title does not have BD. It only has DVD.

2. The "limited edition", a phrase so abused nowadays that it usually just means the default edition that often is not even "limited", is truly limited. It is available only by direct order at Diabolik Lovers site, Animate (online or storefront) and Stellaworth (a shop that sells only female oriented games). Amazon does not stock it and so its sales trend is NOT available. We have no idea how good or bad it will sell.

3. The "regular edition" will be released only Two Months after the "limited edition" is out. It is indeed stocked by Amazon but currently the sales prediction is very low at around 200.

The "limited edition" of vol.1 will be released on Nov 27. I believe Oricon will count the sales at Animate but I doubt it will count the sales made by the official franchise website. So any sales we are going to see will very likely be a substantial underestimate.
symbvOct 22, 2013 9:30 PM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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symbv said:
Amiluhur said:
What i'm looking forward to see the most is Diabolik Lovers sales. That show totally caught me off guard and gives me serious lulz. It's garbage, but somehow i can't seem to stop watching it. Here's some hope that the BD/DVD gonna come out as fast as possible so i can bathe myself in some more lulz
There are a few things unique about the discs of Diabolik Lovers that I want to bring to attention:

1. The title does not have BD. It only has DVD.

2. The "limited edition", a phrase so abused nowadays that it usually just means the default edition that often is not even "limited", is truly limited. It is available only by direct order at Diabolik Lovers site, Animate (online or storefront) and Stellaworth (a shop that sells only female oriented games). Amazon does not stock it and so its sales trend is NOT available. We have no idea how good or bad it will sell.

3. The "regular edition" will be released only Two Months after the "limited edition" is out. It is indeed stocked by Amazon but currently the sales prediction is very low at around 200.

The "limited edition" of vol.1 will be released on Nov 27. I believe Oricon will count the sales at Animate but I doubt it will count the sales made by the official franchise website. So any sales we are going to see will very likely to be a substantial underestimate.


1. That's poor business sense, everyone buying this will be paying top dollar, offer BDs as well.

2. The limited edition label is tacked on so people will preorder, nothing too bad about it, it may cause some confusion, I'd rather have it as 1st edition or 1st pressing instead to prevent confusion. Having the DVDs exclusive is a mixed bag, while it's good for Japanese fans, it does pose problems for an importer and things will get more expensive soon for purchases due to the sales tax hike in Japan and while it won't affect most importers, it will affect those who buy exclusive items that will require a forwarding service. I'll be hit with that tax when I get the next exclusive or possible limited/rare item off an auction site or Dengekiya.

3. That sucks


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1. That's poor business sense, everyone buying this will be paying top dollar, offer BDs as well.
3. That sucks
I don't know. I just think that the business model this female oriented anime chose to adopt has its own reason, and I guess much of it has to do with cost control. Offering just one format, and a cheaper one at that, cuts cost, and we know female consumers don't mind DVD format, in fact often preferring it. Making it available at only very limited number of channels cuts cost substantially too, both in terms of inventory manufacturing/storage cost and distribution cost. Foreign buyers are going to be a tiny minority anyway and Animate and direct order offers countrywide coverage. I won't call it poor business sense so easily.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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symbv said:
Hoppy said:
1. That's poor business sense, everyone buying this will be paying top dollar, offer BDs as well.
3. That sucks
I don't know. I just think that the business model this female oriented anime chose to adopt has its own reason, and I guess much of it has to do with cost control. Offering just one format, and a cheaper one at that, cuts cost, and we know female consumers don't mind DVD format, in fact often preferring it. Making it available at only very limited number of channels cuts cost substantially too, both in terms of inventory manufacturing/storage cost and distribution cost. Foreign buyers are going to be a tiny minority anyway and Animate and direct order offers countrywide coverage. I won't call it poor business sense so easily.


I think the affordability is the reason female buyers prefer DVDs over BDs, as for direct order and other mail order methods, it's common knowledge that the reason for them buying this way is for convenience and privacy, I don't blame them, being in an anime section with mostly men would be frightening or embarrassing for a female especially if she's with her friends.


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symbv said:
hpulley said:
There are a lot of good OP & ED songs this season. Could get expensive...
Somehow by this stage I remember fewer OP/ED in this season compared to the last few seasons. Not sure why but just seems that they are not making the same impression. And quite a few OP/ED just sound similar to previous songs from the same artist: Coppelion OP to K OP, Strike the Blood OP to Highschool of the Dead OP....


I probably haven't seen/heard as many of the op/Ed as of now as you, but of what I have heard the only one to really stand out to me was the Tokyo Ravens OP. Now whether that's a sign of how good the Tokyo Ravens OP is or how unimpressive the rest have been I'm not sure.
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Hoppy said:
it's common knowledge that the reason for them buying this way is for convenience and privacy, I don't blame them, being in an anime section with mostly men would be frightening or embarrassing for a female especially if she's with her friends.
I think in Japan the gender ratio of customer base is a major consideration in retail business because customers do care about it. Business magazines have no lack of reports about how shops like fast food shop or ramen restaurant change their decoration and serve procedure (not just the menu) so that females would not find it difficult to enter the shops filled with guys. If females find it even hard to enter a ramen shop it is easy to see how much more reluctant they would be entering an anime shop if it is deemed to server a mainly male clientele.
symbvOct 22, 2013 10:18 PM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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Hoppy said:
I think the affordability is the reason female buyers prefer DVDs over BDs, as for direct order and other mail order methods, it's common knowledge that the reason for them buying this way is for convenience and privacy, I don't blame them, being in an anime section with mostly men would be frightening or embarrassing for a female especially if she's with her friends.


http://www.darkmirage.com/2007/12/25/otome-road-and-doujinshi/

They have an Otome Road in Japan that's the female equivalent to Akihabara for males. So anime section with mostly females do exist in Japan.
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symbv said:
I think in Japan the gender ratio of customer base is a major consideration in retail business because customers do care about it. Business magazines have no lack of reports about how shops like fast food shop or ramen restaurant change their decoration and serve procedure (not just the menu) so that females would not find it difficult to enter the shops filled with guys. If females find it even hard to enter a ramen shop it is easy to see how much more reluctant they would be entering an anime shop if it is deemed to server a mainly male clientele.





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They have an Otome Road in Japan that's the female equivalent to Akihabara for males. So anime section with mostly females do exist in Japan.
Otome Road came into existence largely thanks to the shift of Animate branch in Ikekuburo to focus more on female oriented products and services to provide an alternative of Akihabara for female fans. All the doujin, manga, cosplay, game shops and butler cafes were centered around that monument Animate building there.



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I definitely agree that Animate is one good example of anime shops but I think here when people talk about anime shops they mean places where anime BD/DVD can be bought so it would include doujin shops like Tora no Ana as well. And I am not sure if Animate had as many female customers by proportion in the past as now - I always have a feeling that Animate put less focus on catering female consumers until the last 20 years or so. While Animate now has an environment that makes it easy for female customers to go, I think for most places that sell anime BD/DVD (which is where we started talking about male/female customers here) tend to have overwhelmingly male customers.

As for DVD, I think hpulley and I would all agree that there is the question of price. However as for how widespread the players, I think while we can quote this as a major factor back in 2008 or 2009, over the years male otaku have largely shifted to BDs while female fans and mainstream consumers till buy more DVDs than BDs. This mean the spread of the players is a symptom - there should be deeper reason behind why BD players are not more widespread except in some areas like the male otaku. I always read in places 2ch where people claim that there is no point in buying DVD because the current digital TV already offers better video quality than DVD, but clearly many people do not notice the difference and thus go for the cheaper DVD than the more expensive BD.

As for whether female otaku are open or not, I think it all depends. I have read articles where women were interviewed about hiding their anime and manga hobby from everyone. What I sense is that people are more open than the past (say 10 years or 20 years ago) and this is the same for male and female otaku, but still there are quite a bit of stigma regarding the otaku label. You are right in saying that it is more tricky in a relationship for males if they revealed to be an otaku, but I am sure that unless the other side is also an anime/manga fan, a female otaku could also hit problem if her hobby is exposed. As for girls talking Hetalia loudly but guys talk K-On only quietly, I guess it has more to do with ojiisan talking about high school girls in K-On could be viewed as kimoi hentai while girls loving ikemen manga is considered normal?


Mod Edit: comment made in Japanese without English translation put into spoiler tag.
ThangLongOct 24, 2013 7:58 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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