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Sep 28, 2013 12:29 PM

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Disappointed. I like how they pandered to these damn fujoshi by magically healing Levi. Eren going Kaio Ken was ridiculous, dont try to justify it. Not to mention Eren in titan is brain dead as f*ck.

Whenever they make s2 remake this episode and try to make the Titan in the wall reveal a bit less shittier cause it fucking sucked.

ep-7/10
Series-8.5-9/10
Sep 28, 2013 12:30 PM

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Levirtrow said:
Edit: now that it ended, I feel... empty.


Just like the anime elelelelelellele.
Sep 28, 2013 12:31 PM
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Amarrez said:

- Instead of being thrown up to Annie by an in control Eren, Mikasa just uses 3DMG to zip up to Annie instead.
Is this what really happens? Because I don't get that vibe from those pages in the manga. You can clearly see that Mikasa does use her 3DMG when Hanji warns her not to go after Annie. The only part that I see that could've given you that idea is Armin's reaction the page before when he's alarmed by Eren, but that's only because he's startled at how quickly Eren has recovered himself when he was a mess just moments previously, in contrast to the the mess he was in when they were plugging the hole in the wall. Unless I missed something...
Sep 28, 2013 12:34 PM

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garnite said:
Amarrez said:

- Instead of being thrown up to Annie by an in control Eren, Mikasa just uses 3DMG to zip up to Annie instead.
Is this what really happens? Because I don't get that vibe from those pages in the manga. You can clearly see that Mikasa does use her 3DMG when Hanji warns her not to go after Annie. The only part that I see that could've given you that idea is Armin's reaction the page before when he's alarmed by Eren, but that's only because he's startled at how quickly Eren has recovered himself when he was a mess just moments previously, in contrast to the the mess he was in when they were plugging the hole in the wall. Unless I missed something...

No 3DMG.

http://i.imgur.com/aCxx4UG.jpg

She flies up after being thrown and then uses 3DMG to cut across to Annie.
Sep 28, 2013 12:34 PM

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Xinception said:
But not throwing Mikasa? Fuck.
It's barely shown in the manga. I didn't even get that she was thrown the first time I read it. The entire walls are titans part was completely left out until the short scene after the credits, and this is what you care about? Or were you being sarcastic?
Sep 28, 2013 12:36 PM

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stAtic91 said:
Xinception said:
But not throwing Mikasa? Fuck.
It's barely shown in the manga. I didn't even get that she was thrown the first time I read it. The entire walls are titans part was completely left out until the short scene after the credits, and this is what you care about? Or were you being sarcastic?

Call it pedantic, but it shows that Eren is conscious and thinking when using his titan form for basically the first time, instead of being a blithering retard. He can even comprehend and follow Armin's instructions.
Sep 28, 2013 12:38 PM
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stAtic91 said:
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But not throwing Mikasa? Fuck.
It's barely shown in the manga. I didn't even get that she was thrown the first time I read it. The entire walls are titans part was completely left out until the short scene after the credits, and this is what you care about? Or were you being sarcastic?


It was heavily implied so.

But think about it, wouldn't it have been better if Eren threw Mikasa instead?

More logical to explain how she got up there faster than the rest.

Shows teamwork between them, despite having different methods of fighting (3DMG, Titan Form)

But eh, kinda disappointed. I'll still give this episode a 5 though. The actions make up for it.
Sep 28, 2013 12:40 PM
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Amarrez said:
garnite said:
Amarrez said:

- Instead of being thrown up to Annie by an in control Eren, Mikasa just uses 3DMG to zip up to Annie instead.
Is this what really happens? Because I don't get that vibe from those pages in the manga. You can clearly see that Mikasa does use her 3DMG when Hanji warns her not to go after Annie. The only part that I see that could've given you that idea is Armin's reaction the page before when he's alarmed by Eren, but that's only because he's startled at how quickly Eren has recovered himself when he was a mess just moments previously, in contrast to the the mess he was in when they were plugging the hole in the wall. Unless I missed something...

No 3DMG.

http://i.imgur.com/aCxx4UG.jpg

She flies up after being thrown and then uses 3DMG to cut across to Annie.


But that's clearly just a close up of what really happened. Once she begins to pursue Annie, you only see two close ups, and in one you see the 3DMG which I think you're supposed to presume was the means to her getting up there. I think it's completely assuming to say that Eren threw her, as the only indication is Armin's reaction, which I'm pretty sure is only with regards to his new found control and alertness as a titan. Of course that's going to surprise Armin. Eren looks content and ready for action, but not like he just chucked Mikasa into the sky. Bit fan-fictiony.
Sep 28, 2013 12:43 PM

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Amarrez said:
stAtic91 said:
Xinception said:
But not throwing Mikasa? Fuck.
It's barely shown in the manga. I didn't even get that she was thrown the first time I read it. The entire walls are titans part was completely left out until the short scene after the credits, and this is what you care about? Or were you being sarcastic?

Call it pedantic, but it shows that Eren is conscious and thinking when using his titan form for basically the first time, instead of being a blithering retard. He can even comprehend and follow Armin's instructions.
Exactly, that really annoyed the fuk outta me. It really showed Eren's growth in the manga that he is slolwy learning to control his Titan but nope let's make him rage everywhere like a brain dead twat cause it's cooler.
Sep 28, 2013 12:46 PM

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Poor Annie... one of my favs. R.I.P.
10/10 for the anime, but I can't beileve they messed up one of the most important scene in this anime. 1/5 for the episode.
Next season when?
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Sep 28, 2013 12:48 PM

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Poor Annie... one of my favs. R.I.P. 10/10 for the anime, it's one of the best I've seen in about 5 years.
Kudos...
Next season when?


She's not actually dead
Sep 28, 2013 12:50 PM

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ErenxMikasa said:
Meruru_Arls said:
Poor Annie... one of my favs. R.I.P. 10/10 for the anime, it's one of the best I've seen in about 5 years.
Kudos...
Next season when?


She's not actually dead


I think they said if she is removed from the crystal. She will die.
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Sep 28, 2013 12:51 PM

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Wow this episode was terrible, they didn't adapt it well from the manga 2/5

Overall it was an okay series, there were a lot of annoying moments and repetitive vapid dialogue. Eren is a terrible main character, the anime adaption didn't make him any better, so one dimensional and lacks growth and depth, Misaka was cool but that's about it. I enjoyed hearing my favorite voice actor Kamiya Hiroshi voicing Levi, he fitted him perfectly. Not gonna watch a second season of this, I will just stick to the manga and probably just put it on hold since it's so slow paced right now. The manga is better 6/10.
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Meruru_Arls said:
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Meruru_Arls said:
Poor Annie... one of my favs. R.I.P. 10/10 for the anime, it's one of the best I've seen in about 5 years.
Kudos...
Next season when?


She's not actually dead


I think they said if she is removed from the crystal. She will die.


I don't remember them saying that in the manga.
Sep 28, 2013 12:52 PM
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ErenxMikasa said:
Meruru_Arls said:
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Meruru_Arls said:
Poor Annie... one of my favs. R.I.P. 10/10 for the anime, it's one of the best I've seen in about 5 years.
Kudos...
Next season when?


She's not actually dead


I think they said if she is removed from the crystal. She will die.


I don't remember them saying that in the manga.


Nope, they never stated that.
Sep 28, 2013 12:52 PM

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giving this episode a 8/10

they should have ended with hanji talking with the pastor after the wall... also levi should stay outta this, he is injured, mikasa should be thrown by eren up to annie...
well i dont mind the fire-mode, for me it was more like all his body parts regenerating

i give the whole series a 9.5/10, there are minor details which bugs me, but really, compared to other animes it is really one of the good ones


i think for season 2 they need to reanimated the last episode, this time following the manga, which leads directly to the next event of the other characters
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I never got a vibe Eren actually threw Mikasa, I think you guys made it up yourselves based on one blurry manga panel that can be interpreted in different ways, Eren throwing Mikasa not even being the most obvious/logical one.
Season 2 they can easily start with the wall scene extended version, pretending after the credit one second reveal never happened. Even if they not, postponing the reveal will still be kinda passable, should they find a way to bring there all the characters needed.
Also fire titan looked like an exaggerated version of Eren's regeneration effect previously shown when he lost and regained his arm in the end of episode 7, only extended to injuries he got all over his body after being mauled by FT.
So I'm pretty pleased with the episode.
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Sep 28, 2013 12:53 PM

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Wow this episode was terrible, they didn't adapt it well from the manga 2/5

Overall it was an okay series, there were a lot of annoying moments and repetitive vapid dialogue. Eren is a terrible main character, the anime adaption didn't make him any better, so one dimensional and lacks growth and depth, Misaka was cool but that's about it. I enjoyed hearing my favorite voice actor Kamiya Hiroshi voicing Levi, he fitted him perfectly. Not gonna watch a second season of this, I will just stick to the manga and probably just put it on hold since it's so slow paced right now. The manga is better 6/10.


Yes, I can't believe they waited until the final episode to mess everything up. I'm in rage mode now.
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Sep 28, 2013 12:53 PM

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Amarrez said:
stAtic91 said:
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But not throwing Mikasa? Fuck.
It's barely shown in the manga. I didn't even get that she was thrown the first time I read it. The entire walls are titans part was completely left out until the short scene after the credits, and this is what you care about? Or were you being sarcastic?

Call it pedantic, but it shows that Eren is conscious and thinking when using his titan form for basically the first time, instead of being a blithering retard. He can even comprehend and follow Armin's instructions.
When you put it like this it's more understandable why you wanted them to keep that in.
Sep 28, 2013 12:59 PM

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Holy shit these manga readers are starting to piss me off so damn bad

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Sep 28, 2013 12:59 PM

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It was a good ending for a show that hasn't been guaranteed a 2nd season. Rather then delving into a whole other thing, they put the titan in the wall as a brief post-credits thing as a hint of more to come.
Sep 28, 2013 1:01 PM

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Amarrez said:
I just realized that they had Mikasa pull Eren away from the titan instead of Armin. They're really pushing that ship, huh?
No complaints here

Regarding Eren's "fire mode"

Am I the only person who didn't dislike it?

Titans are hot steam comes off them when they heal or exert themselves ( the armored titan breaking through wall Maria, Eren carrying the boulder). The fire, to me represented Eren pushing himself to the limit, the fire instead of the steam is Eren's body being pushed to its limits, sure it's different from the manga but there are much worse differences in this episode (the reveal of the wa titan dafuq?) .
Sep 28, 2013 1:03 PM

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6/10 episode. So many things changed and that deus ex machina; I lol'd.

8.5/10 series
Sep 28, 2013 1:04 PM

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MikasaxEren said:
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I just realized that they had Mikasa pull Eren away from the titan instead of Armin. They're really pushing that ship, huh?
No complaints here

Regarding Eren's "fire mode"

Am I the only person who didn't dislike it?

Titans are hot steam comes off them when they heal or exert themselves ( the armored titan breaking through wall Maria, Eren carrying the boulder). The fire, to me represented Eren pushing himself to the limit, the fire instead of the steam is Eren's body being pushed to its limits, sure it's different from the manga but there are much worse differences in this episode (the reveal of the wa titan dafuq?) .


Yes... That fire mode bs ruin everything. What were they thinking... geez.
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Sep 28, 2013 1:07 PM

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The most overated anime of 2013 finally ends. Kill la kill will take its legacy though but I guess its okay.
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Sep 28, 2013 1:08 PM

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MikasaxEren said:
Amarrez said:
I just realized that they had Mikasa pull Eren away from the titan instead of Armin. They're really pushing that ship, huh?
No complaints here

Regarding Eren's "fire mode"

Am I the only person who didn't dislike it?

Titans are hot steam comes off them when they heal or exert themselves ( the armored titan breaking through wall Maria, Eren carrying the boulder). The fire, to me represented Eren pushing himself to the limit, the fire instead of the steam is Eren's body being pushed to its limits, sure it's different from the manga but there are much worse differences in this episode (the reveal of the wa titan dafuq?) .
I didn't dislike it. Rage mode. Manga readers am mad. Probably just as fiery sitting at their computers.
Sep 28, 2013 1:10 PM

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* FACEPALMS *

I would like the last episode redone for and if Season 2 comes out.

For the life of me, why a material so clear to be adapted should be incinerated by rubbing Jean in my face, boosting Levi's character as if he needs it, and, seriously, Eren and the Wall are done horrible.

The fight went downhill without Armin and Mikasa. It was SO important for Eren to punch away Annie's head in the end, wasn't it, when the opposite actually made the suspense in the manga!

The good points are Annie and Mikasa. When I see the TL, Erwin vs. Dawk might line-up here.

3/5 for the episode. I really expected more, not less.

9/10 for the series - remains.
Sep 28, 2013 1:11 PM

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Meruru_Arls said:
MikasaxEren said:
Amarrez said:
I just realized that they had Mikasa pull Eren away from the titan instead of Armin. They're really pushing that ship, huh?
No complaints here

Regarding Eren's "fire mode"

Am I the only person who didn't dislike it?

Titans are hot steam comes off them when they heal or exert themselves ( the armored titan breaking through wall Maria, Eren carrying the boulder). The fire, to me represented Eren pushing himself to the limit, the fire instead of the steam is Eren's body being pushed to its limits, sure it's different from the manga but there are much worse differences in this episode (the reveal of the wa titan dafuq?) .


Yes... That fire mode bs ruin everything. What were they thinking... geez.

Why? When titans exert themselves steam comes off of them, Eren was pushing himself to the max and became hotter - fire is hotter than steam.
Whilst not faithful to the manga, there are much worse changes in the episode

I mean they totally botched the wall titan reveal.
Sep 28, 2013 1:13 PM

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Pipoko said:
Meruru_Arls said:
MikasaxEren said:
Amarrez said:
I just realized that they had Mikasa pull Eren away from the titan instead of Armin. They're really pushing that ship, huh?
No complaints here

Regarding Eren's "fire mode"

Am I the only person who didn't dislike it?

Titans are hot steam comes off them when they heal or exert themselves ( the armored titan breaking through wall Maria, Eren carrying the boulder). The fire, to me represented Eren pushing himself to the limit, the fire instead of the steam is Eren's body being pushed to its limits, sure it's different from the manga but there are much worse differences in this episode (the reveal of the wa titan dafuq?) .


Yes... That fire mode bs ruin everything. What were they thinking... geez.


People say that.. yet, thinking about it, what exactly did it ruin or change in the overall picture? It's so easy to criticize something just because it isn't in the source. Yes, it's out of nowhere, yes it's ridiculous, but what exactly did that change in the overall scheme of things?


It ruins its future potential as an anime, and out of alll 25 episodes. This was the only one that made me rage. I truly hate deus ex machina. Why can't people be creative anymore.
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Sep 28, 2013 1:13 PM
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Meruru_Arls said:
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Poor Annie... one of my favs. R.I.P. 10/10 for the anime, it's one of the best I've seen in about 5 years.
Kudos...
Next season when?


She's not actually dead


I think they said if she is removed from the crystal. She will die.


It's a guess, they have no idea what could happen.

And to be honest, if Isayama wanted her dead he should have just killed her instead of creating a crystal thing. So I'm sure she is still alive.

Besides her last memories are of her father saying "Come back home".
Sep 28, 2013 1:14 PM

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One thing I don't get it how the fuck Levi's leg was cured all of a sudden. :\
Sep 28, 2013 1:24 PM

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At least the second half ended on a higher note than the first

Giant monsters beating the crap out of each other is always fun to watch
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Meruru_Arls said:
Pipoko said:
Meruru_Arls said:
MikasaxEren said:
Amarrez said:
I just realized that they had Mikasa pull Eren away from the titan instead of Armin. They're really pushing that ship, huh?
No complaints here

Regarding Eren's "fire mode"

Am I the only person who didn't dislike it?

Titans are hot steam comes off them when they heal or exert themselves ( the armored titan breaking through wall Maria, Eren carrying the boulder). The fire, to me represented Eren pushing himself to the limit, the fire instead of the steam is Eren's body being pushed to its limits, sure it's different from the manga but there are much worse differences in this episode (the reveal of the wa titan dafuq?) .


Yes... That fire mode bs ruin everything. What were they thinking... geez.


People say that.. yet, thinking about it, what exactly did it ruin or change in the overall picture? It's so easy to criticize something just because it isn't in the source. Yes, it's out of nowhere, yes it's ridiculous, but what exactly did that change in the overall scheme of things?


It ruins its future potential as an anime, and out of alll 25 episodes. This was the only one that made me rage. I truly hate deus ex machina. Why can't people be creative anymore.


Umm, where exactly did you see the deus ex machina there?

As for the titan in the wall, if anything, it served like a sequel hook if ever a second season will be pushed.


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if anything, it served like a sequel hook if ever a second season will be pushed.

Well yeah, except they're gonna have to retcon like 1/2 of episode 25 to make Utgard castle arc make sense.
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if anything, it served like a sequel hook if ever a second season will be pushed.

Well yeah, except they're gonna have to retcon like 1/2 of episode 25 to make Utgard castle arc make sense.


And you have the second half of the first episode with the dudes giving the group near Wall Rose the news that Titans have broken in.

More tension~
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Chiyonyan said:
if anything, it served like a sequel hook if ever a second season will be pushed.

Well yeah, except they're gonna have to retcon like 1/2 of episode 25 to make Utgard castle arc make sense.


That I can't deny, retconning might be an option.


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No seriously, there's some off stuff in this episode, but what exactly contradicts anything at Utgard?
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No seriously, there's some off stuff in this episode, but what exactly constradicts anything at Utgard?


Well, if they don't retcon the second half of episode 25. It'd make a big mess in the plot in general. So retconnin is a must when S2 happens.
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WHAATT? (I haven't watch the episode yet *downloading)
Levi was there???

If I had known Levi would be in the final episode, I would have had gone to the screening. Feel bumped.
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The episode seems so not right in so many ways and reading comments from the manga readers seems my hunches were right, that is, they altered quite the chunk of the original material.

That being said, the episode itself was glorious because of the Eren and Annie's fight and of course the way Erwin promising the real attack on titan will commence from here. Mikasa holding Eren's hands was touching. Thus a 5/5 for this episode and I am not going to lower my series score just because of the anime not sticking entirely with the manga. So it remains a 10/10.

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Pipoko said:
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Pipoko said:
No seriously, there's some off stuff in this episode, but what exactly constradicts anything at Utgard?


Well, if they don't retcon the second half of episode 25. It'd make a big mess in the plot in general. So retconnin is a must when S2 happens.


What exactly? I don't get it! I'm thinking, but all these changes in this episode - none of it should be affecting utgard because


You're right there. But
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Pipoko said:
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Pipoko said:
Xinception said:
Pipoko said:
No seriously, there's some off stuff in this episode, but what exactly constradicts anything at Utgard?


Well, if they don't retcon the second half of episode 25. It'd make a big mess in the plot in general. So retconnin is a must when S2 happens.


What exactly? I don't get it! I'm thinking, but all these changes in this episode - none of it should be affecting utgard because


You're right there. But




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Yeah, they did, but it's plausible to set the aftermath with the wall in the start of the 2nd season so that it wouldn't create that plothole.


I don't know, still felt like a cocktease to me.

Unless Hanji returns with a group of soldier to clean up the mess, it's busted.
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Well all in all the show was decent. I like the manga much, much more. The pacing was awfully slow at times, the order of some crucial points bugged me a lot. But all in all it was decent. Now going back to monthly releases.
I'll probably give it a 7/10
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Well all in all the show was decent. I like the manga much, much more. The pacing was awfully slow at times, the order of some crucial points bugged me a lot. But all in all it was decent. Now going back to monthly releases.
I'll probably give it a 7/10


It'll be a cruel wait.

Let us, manga readers, pull each other through 4 weeks of nothing-ness....

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This adaptation had me up until episode 24. It really did. Even though it left out important scenes such as

- Eren's dream about Mikasa at the very beginning
- Eren's monologue in the forest of giant trees about not wanting to be seen as a monster
- Annie's first smile when Eren is enthused about her technique (this should have been in the training scene; if not at least episode 24, as it would have shown a deeper respect and camaraderie between Eren and Annie, further justifying his reluctance to transform)

the show was still mostly faithful to its excellent manga counterpart, with good filler, beautiful animation, and an outstanding OST. But the second half of episode 25 was just incredibly disappointing. The reasons are all related to the plot, characters, and presentation, not the design of the show itself. They are:

1. Eren losing himself to his titan - This issue goes back to episode 24, when he flies into a rage and resolves to kill Annie. This is VERY poor character development. What happened to the Eren who was maturing and learning self-control during his time with the Levi squad? The manga depicted Eren transforming in order to protect Mikasa and Armin. It was a somber, sober decision following a poignant moment with Mikasa (which was understated in the anime). He keeps control of himself throughout the fight, instead of becoming a mindless, flaming berserker. This shows an improved control over his titan form, which is CRUCIAL to his later fight with the (SPOILER) Armored Titan. He never brings himself to hate Annie, think of her as evil, or truly want to kill her; he is more confused about her motives than anything, and the tone of his monologue in the anime should have reflected that (which it didn't). Instead, the anime depicts "Raging (Fire) Eren."

Raging (Fire) Eren personifies the generic shounen "anger is power" trope. AoT has previously subverted this trope (as far back as episode 5) by showing the viewer that mindless rage gets everyone killed, but now indulges and glorifies it to pander to action-heads. This is deeply inconsistent.

Eren becomes the honey badger when it comes to civilian collateral; he just didn't give a fuck. In the manga it's clear that he tries to limit the scope of damage done to Stohess, but here he charges, throws, and tackles without the slightest regard for the buildings around him. This wanton destruction is then used as an excuse to portray Erwin as an ends-before-means extremist, exemplified by the "little girl" scene. To a similar extent, Armin is shown following in Erwin's footsteps without hesitation, making repeated and unnecessary use of the "sacrifice something to obtain something" and "become a monster to defeat monsters" quotes. The repetition of said quotes is just one example of all the useless "rooftop chatter" that occurred during this episode. (Credit goes to several other posters for pointing this out)

TL;DR - In the manga, Eren develops as a human. The reader can feel that there is a human inside his titan. In the anime, he becomes a mindless beast that causes wanton destruction. The flames on his body are not a big issue; his character certainly is. To a lesser extent, Erwin and Armin's ends-before-means extremism is over-exaggerated and sometimes used as a excuse to add unnecessary filler monologues.

2. Eren does not throw Mikasa - This is an offshoot of 1, in that the throwing action shows Eren in a rational, levelheaded, controlled state, able to listen to Armin and coordinate with Mikasa (instead of punching her like he did in Episode 11). It also explains why none of the other Scouts were able to reach Annie, and why Mikasa was able to reach her without even using the 3DMG. This scene could have been incredibly epic, iconic even, in the anime. Unfortunately, it was simply cut.

3. Mikasa, Pastor Nick, Hanji, and Armin do not see the Colossal Titan inside Wall Sina - What? THIS should have been the BIGGEST dramatic reveal in the first season. THIS was supposed to shock non-manga readers into wanting more. That moment when Mikasa stares dumbfounded at the titan's face could have been beautiful. Instead, we are given a comical few seconds after the ending credits; NOT serious, dramatic, and powerful, in order to really provoke the viewer into thinking about its implications, but COMICAL.

This isn't just a matter of presentation. (SPOILERS) What will happen to the scene where Hanji dangles Pastor Nick over the wall? What will happen to the dark secret that the Wall Cultists were created to protect, and Levi's subsequent attempt to extract information from them? What will happen to Armin's deductions, and his idea that Eren may be able to repair the walls with titan crystal? What will happen to Christa's role in this whole affair? All of it will either go to shit, or have to be ass-pulled.

4. Levi swoops in with the 3DMG (to impress the fangirls) - Really? Levi's ankle is shot! He couldn't even save Petra's body from a retarded titan, but now he has the precision to cut Eren out of his titan? There was no point to introducing Levi into that scene, other than blocking Mikasa's character development (in the manga, she resolves to take responsibility for getting Levi injured, taking a small first step away from Eren-centrism).

Besides being total bullshit from a practical point of view, IT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE that Hajime Isayama pulled Levi out of the story when he did.

It is very important that Levi be excluded at the moment, because Levi is a cathartic character. That's why he's so popular. When the reader/viewer is frustrated that no one can handle the female titan, Levi swoops in and does away with her. When the reader/viewer can't stand the corrupt military police, Levi spits insults at them and gets away with it, because he's LEVI. Levi is not and was never meant to embody morally ambiguous themes.

This is why his return in the anime is a (BIG) problem, because after Annie is revealed as the female titan, killing titans becomes MORALLY AMBIGUOUS. Even enemy titans have become humanized. If Levi is well enough to use the 3DMG already, what will happen when (SPOILER) the Armored and Colossal Titans make their 3rd appearance? How will the anime justify their escape with Eren when the Achilles of titan killing is already back in action?

These 4 points and their sub-points sum up the MAJOR character and plot issues that his episode has opened.

I really thought that WIT/IG included filler in order to do this segment of the manga full justice in the finale: no filler, just pure, good storytelling based on an award-winning manga from a talented author.

That's ALL they had to do to knock it out of the park. THEY HAD ONE JOB, AND THEY FUCKED IT UP.

In order to continue with a second season properly, the least they would need to do is remake episode 25. I, however, am in the AoT: Titanhood camp: wait until the manga nears its end, and do a faithfully adapted remake with even better production values, no pacing issues, and preservation of character development. A show like that could become the next FMAB.

As it is however, the AoT anime has just ruined what could have been one of the most epic and iconic finales of all time.
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Great anime. 10/10
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Even Mass Effect 3 had a better ending.
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Hmm...the ending is quite underwhelming imo, I thought it's going to end with a cliffhanger like Code Geass S1 but apparently not. What's with the half-assed titan reveal?

But all in all, it is a great adaptation. 8.5/10 for keeping true to the source material but i think they could make the ending better

BUT 10/10 if you think of the anime as an alternate reality where some instances are kind of different but overall ends at the same note, like Bioshock Infinite's constants and variables bit.

The constant is the Titan reveal and Annie's crystallization while the variable is Eren's psychological state when he is in Titan mode. I mean, things would turn out differently if he is calm (like in the manga) in comparison to when he goes cray cray right?
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8.2 for the whole anime as it was an awesome experience but did lack on the character development a bit and the ending was a bit meh
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