Hunter x Hunter (2011) Episode 90 Discussion

nanny96 said:
Well,the difference is that in HxH they talk to say interesting thing,in Db they say "I'm stronger than you!" "No,I'M stronger than you!" "No! I can destroy the universe with a fart!" "Me too!" ecc. ecc.

fearthebeard85 said:
Can I go in one Hunter x Hunter episode discussion these days without seeing just about every other shounen series being thrown under the bus? I understand in most part it's in defense of HxH, but damn its becoming a weekly thing these days lol.

Akanezora said:


I thought the same. Damn, that stand is fucking cute.

Anyway, pretty good episode, I liked Killua's fight over Gon's fight, it was a lot more interesting imho. Also, can't wait to see that majestic King.

Kvshi said:


The reason most people are more "interesting" then Gon is because of how much experience they had with fighting enemies and using nen compared to Gon so of course people enjoyed the other characters rather then Gon's fights. Gon is a bit uninteresting at this point, but remember he only learned nen a while ago and learning advance forms of nen is impressive considering how long it normally takes.

So comparing Gon to those nen users later on is like comparing a small animal to a lion.

I guarantee most people would rather see Phantom Troupe in a battle rather then Gon and Killua because of thre destructive forms of nen and there violent forms of fighting opponents.

Django_Freeman said:
You can't argue about the fact that last episode's fight had strategy. You know, all the stuff about Gon provoking Knuckle and using fake Jajanken to disturb the flow of his aura, with Killua's long explanation and the baseball analogy. You may not like it, but it's still strategy. And it's not only about strategy, but also about character development. Killua trying to overcome his habit of running away is major character development, and that's something we knew of since the beginning of the manga (when he gave up against Illumi even though he knew Gon's life was at stake). Knuckle explaining his ability was absolutely necessary because otherwise, none of the strategies in the second part of the arc would make sense, therefore all the explaining was setting up the future strategies.

HurricaneSweet said:
@candor nothing original? That's rock paper scissor unlike gomu gomu or kameha focuses on psychological tricks, you don't know which ones he'll actually use. At least that's the case twice, not to mention the fakes, to me, clever tricks like these are far more interesting than just spamming attacks or planet busters...

As for the rest it's development of strength for gon and character for killua.

Gon just gets more and more interesting as the non cliche character

I mean damn spoiler preview but they actually LOSE to knuckle and shoot? That's impressive.

Salce said:

What really was kind of complicated was the estimation about Gon's total aura.

SetsukoHara said:

even though it is hard to digest for the viewer/reader most of the time.

wakka9ca said:
I don't understand what is so complicated about basic arithmetic. Are you serious saying the estimation was that complicated? Oh man...

Xvenger said:
Well the way i see it, if people were expecting an actual physical badass confrontation between Gon vs. Knuckle then they're going to be let down. There's more than one way of winning a fight and that ability is absolutely perfect for him. I don't think many people here realize that the long ass explanation from Knuckle wasn't just purely an info dump from Togashi, it was part of Knuckle's strategy in terms of winning to stall out Gon from repaying the debt and let the outrageously high interest rate stack up until to the point where it's game over for Gon.
It's a time bomb and Madhouse went with the route of not shortening the explanation to make the viewer really feel the amount of time that Gon wasted by not doing anything.

It's also funny and interesting that Knuckle found the perfect balance between his love for his pacifistic nature and duking it out in a manly brawl by forcing the opponent to neutralize the debt through this while not inflicting any severe damage to either fighters at the same time.

These are the reasons as to why i liked the Gon vs Knuckle segment because it is once again something that I completely didn't see happening...IN ANY SHOW lol. But I will say that Killua's moments in this were much more "precious" and also much more important development for him which is why it easily trumps Gon's scene for many viewers. It's just sad that some people see things in a very clear cut manner where when there's too much talking in an awaited fight scene, it is automatically deemed as "uneventful and boring" whereas there could be so much more meaning to the scene if they take the time to creatively think outside the box and formulate their own interpretations to it.

In terms of comprehending the ability itself I also didn't catch on to everything at first but then I realized, you don't even have to pay attention to the calculations at all. Just remember one number which is Gon's max limit (21000 something) and know that if the mascot goes past that number, it will declare bankruptcy and won't let him use nen for a while.

Salce said:

It wasn't mathematically complicated.
It just was hard to follow Knuckle reasoning. For example, he says that Gon AOP is some number, but when he uses jajanken, due to the restrictions in his ability, he is able to reach a higher number. I don't think that was clear in Crunchyroll translation, I'm sure many viewers didn't catch it, I knew it because of the manga.

Kvshi said:
Knuckle may have been explaining in that manner to waste time into his favor which creates mooe interest for every minute he talks.

japanda said:
Aura debt? This is getting ridiculous. Stop the internal monologues already and get back to REAL fighting.

lovevc said:
this is bs, not making progress at all. i wanna see the king

Blazed88 said:
Getting bored of this anime going so damn slowly week to week. No progression at all at this point.

Gonna have to take a few weeks off and watch a couple eps bunched, because this is becoming painful.

dodoberry said:
Wow, people are way too action hungry, I think it's great Madhouse explains things properly and concentrates on characters' development.

wakka9ca said:


I don't understand what is so complicated about basic arithmetic. Are you serious saying the estimation was that complicated? Oh man...

Satan-sama said:
I'm still watching the episode 'till now and couldn't manage to understand clearly knuckle's ability xD
this's my 56th time seeing the first part of the episode
I'm already understand his ability but the part of "POP" and "AOP" can't understand at all
what's exactly the deference between them?

UnbornMVs said:


Awwwww :3

I wonder what happened to Killua's eye.

TheDodo said:
Not sure it s the right time to talk about it but i feel there are some fairly big plot-holes.

One is the whole 1 month competition thing, how did Netero manage to plan all this that fast? Did he know Gon and Killua were fighting the chimera and would get their ass kicked? Also how did he know their current strength?

FlareKnight said:
I have to say Killua's fight was 100 times more interesting than Gon's fight. Way too much annoying math going on with Gon and Knuckles. I don't blame Gon for going empty there. That was just a pain to think about. Hopefully Gon just kicks his ass quickly next episode to make up for it XD.

Much more interesting watching Killua struggle against his limits. His battle has far less to do with Shoot than his brother. He's fighting his own habits and teachings rather than his opponent. The problem being that it's going to leave Killua in a worse condition since he's having to do things he's not used to. Though the only benefit is that it seems like Shoot doesn't seem to like hurting people he doesn't want to hurt.