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Nyron said: also I wrote a review, but IDK if it'll be posted thanks to MAL's dumb new requirements [cut for length] I'm really just too baffled by what reads as a scathing, nonsensical wall of text?? This "review" sounds more like a "i'm gonna rip on this anime just 'cause". I'm not even sure if we were watching the same show. There's something called "being reasonably critical", and you're far from it. I personally won't praise Valvrave as the best show of the current season, but that first episode surely wasn't a pile of rubbish. ....MP, on the other hand. Really? >"I hate the OP, because it's just TM Revolution but worse." This though. THIS is unacceptable. |
Agarest said: I assure you i know that. But they had at least they had a little backstory to explain a little of how they could pilot a mecha and a whole show to develop their OP abilities. A disregard humanity button doesn't do it for me. This does seem like Gundam through and through with character developments and interaction. But they changed it a bit so it wouldn't be exactly like Gundam especially with some Geass writing influence, which is exactly why I said 'why couldn't they make a proper one' like another 00, that was their thing. And I never said I liked any of the Gundam MCs. I hated pretty much all Gundam MCs. I loved the shows though. But they are not as annoying as these half ass, weak willed MCs they keep writing in, in the industry. I can stand an asshole, annoying, or angsty mc but not these weak sauce mcs who was not trying become op . The only show I know that killed off and dealt with Heroine/MC love intest death after episode 1 was Cross Game. (I highly doubt she died) I wouldn't defend this show knowing they could do better than to just throw random things that seem interesting together. Irenesharda said: Umm, ending notwithstanding, this WAS Gundam in everything but name. Do you know how many "annoying MCs that become ace pilots" Gundam has in its vast library? Quite a few, I promise you. If you just started watching anime/shounen/mecha shows then this might not be bad, but like I said I may be desensitized to enjoy this. Believe me, I've been watching mech and anime in general for quite a number of years, and yes some things I get bored with and desensitized. I know what your talking about, and yes I have had my fill of weak, annoying MCs. But I still enjoy a good mech show that follows the formula, even if I've seen it quite a few times before. I was simply pointing out that you said you wanted a Gundam show, and that was pretty much exactly what this was. And Gundam's MCs quite frankly sometimes ARE that bad. My favorite of them all will always be Amuro Ray, who is the best among them in my opinion, but yeah, they are pretty bad. But to each his own. I can understand if this was the one that broke the camels back. I have had many shows that were okay, but the cliches caused me to drop it. |
Nyron said: Scryed and 08th ms team were great I was trying to make a point about how low sunrise has fallen since then Examples then? Cause Phi Brain was great and Tiger and Bunny, don't even get me started on that show, I love it. Danshi Koukousei No Nichijou was hilarious as well. All of those three shows were in the last two years so unless you have examples showing that Sunrise has fallen, I don't see how we can complain that Sunrise is the studio behind this show. |
Nyron said: N o one watched phi brain. I watched Phi Brain and thought it was pretty good : / |
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Nyron said: SenutiAi said: Nyron said: Scryed and 08th ms team were great I was trying to make a point about how low sunrise has fallen since then Examples then? Cause Phi Brain was great and Tiger and Bunny, don't even get me started on that show, I love it. Danshi Koukousei No Nichijou was hilarious as well. All of those three shows were in the last two years so unless you have examples showing that Sunrise has fallen, I don't see how we can complain that Sunrise is the studio behind this show. N o one watched phi brain. And don't get ME started on T&B. The show went from 10/10 to god awful in the last third. that show killed all the faith I had left Iin them Allright you hate sunrise cool, we understand. Now can you finally move on with your life? |
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Nyron said: SenutiAi said: Nyron said: Scryed and 08th ms team were great I was trying to make a point about how low sunrise has fallen since then Examples then? Cause Phi Brain was great and Tiger and Bunny, don't even get me started on that show, I love it. Danshi Koukousei No Nichijou was hilarious as well. All of those three shows were in the last two years so unless you have examples showing that Sunrise has fallen, I don't see how we can complain that Sunrise is the studio behind this show. N o one watched phi brain. And don't get ME started on T&B. The show went from 10/10 to god awful in the last third. that show killed all the faith I had left Iin them No one watched it? So why is it getting a THIRD season. As for Tiger and Bunny, I'm going to ignore your comment because at the end of the day I know that it's not true. If the show was ruined for you then I'm sorry that sucks for you, but I think there's a lot of people that would disagree with you. By the way, you still didn't give me any examples. |
xAvengerx said: Nyron said: N o one watched phi brain. I watched Phi Brain and thought it was pretty good : / Thank you! |
| Ha ha, oh god, what the fuck am I watching? I've been waiting for another incredibly enjoyable original anime trainwreck to come along, and I guess this fits the bill. |
AmarrezApr 12, 2013 12:31 AM
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Ballermina said: Every year, there's a new beta MC to make fun of. Getting real tired of your shit, anime. Most mecha shows are - MC loves (some) girl - MC doesnt have any nuts to confess. - MC gets in giant mecha and kicks ass. This show has: - MC loves (some) girl - MC has nuts to confess to girl he likes - MC love interest gets killed in (1st epd) - MC gets Mecha and takes revenge for love interest - MC makes enemies into chopped meat - MC gets stabbed, and shot, then comes back to life and goes vamp on mofos So what is funny about him? |
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IZEROII said: Dude that was pretty good. They should of just done a new Gundam (Origin doesn't count) though to redeem that AGE bullshit. I just wanted to say this, still, thanks for mentioning it ww |
meganezukiApr 12, 2013 12:34 AM
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| Vampire? What was injected by Valvrave exactly... The animation was a bit lazy, but overall decent I love the opening Pretty good beginning, but the flow feels disconnected |
bippo said: HungLikeaZombie said: This show has: - MC loves (some) girl - MC has nuts to confess to girl he likes - MC love interest gets killed in (1st epd) So what is funny about him? MC did not confess to Shoko, he was going to tell her he is going out with transferee-chan. :3 you are correct he was 50% away from completing his sentence |
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| Ohhhh! Those Sunrise production values! The way the story played itself out was done awkwardly with Haruto just knowing to get into the Valvrave for revenge. I felt it over dramatized the situation at hand showing him getting beat up trying to make us think he's gonna die but it's freaking episode 1. I didn't get the sense of danger they were trying to impose on me as a viewer. Lots of visual goodness though and I didn't find it frustrating. As for the cast, who we were shown in the premiere were likable enough. Haruto got on my nerves at first but I can see him growing up as the show progresses. I wonder if the show is going to be of a serialized nature with plot twists every episode. I mean WTF at the end lol? Vampires in my mecha? Was not expecting that |
HybridMBLApr 12, 2013 1:00 AM
| So many unexpected things going on. Most of which caught me off-guard. Yet another space mech anime that i got to wait every week for |
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Nyron said: N o one watched phi brain. And don't get ME started on T&B. The show went from 10/10 to god awful in the last third. that show killed all the faith I had left Iin them You rated T&B 9 in your review so I don't know why that 'god awful' that 'killed all the faith I left in them' come from? In your other account, you rated Code Geass R2, Sunrise flagship Mecha of its time, a 3. So your beef with Sunrise has been going on for so long indeed. No wonder why you go for such length to trash Valvrare. You wrote both in the episode thread and the review page just to make your view seen. You even get out of your way to praise Majestic Prince, a show riddles with even more cliques and has worse character designs than Valvrare, as something on par with Gargantia! Sorry, but that's where you lost me on your whole supposedly impartial and objective review. You whole goal of trashing the show and Sunrise, and trying to persuade people to not even give the show a chance really reveals here, no matter how many words you wrote to cover it. But actually, I do wonder if those are your honest opinions considering you praise some abysmal writings like Aquarion Evol so much. If that is the case, I seriously question your taste in Mecha anime Valvrare is not something ground-breaking, but it's a solid Mecha show. From the animation, character design, to the overall plot all radiate Mecha feel. It's similar to other Sunrise shows, but that's a working and well received formula so I don't see why the studio has to make something different. Unless you are not into Sunrise's Mecha, I don't see why you can hate it. For newbie to the genre, it's certainly pretty and interesting enough to keep them watching. All in all, I object to your views on Valvrare. Your mini review is well written. But it does not mean your opinion is impartial, or even correct |
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| I do agree with those who think this anime has a Gundam Seed feeling. I'm shocked and surprised the same time that they didn't censored any of those violence scenes. Haruto got stabbed in the chest After that L-elf is shooting Haruto's body multiple times. And What!? Haruto is a vampire now ? A vampire in a mecha ? you can count me in :) And as expected the visuals and animations are awesome looking i love it. The characters art reminds me of Sacred Seven + a little bit of Gundam Seed. Valvrave looks like Nirvash from Eureka Seven + Aquarion together. And it looks like this anime got a great budget just look at that cast list so many well known seiyuu up there. I'm loving the Opening Music "Preserved Roses" by T.M.Revolution x Mizuki Nana. Definitely a 5/5 from me. can't wait till the next episode!! |
srwgfanApr 12, 2013 1:04 AM
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| Well, somehow I think Sunrise is getting better, at least surely it is far from being worse than its past. @ThangLong, You save me from writing yet another long-ish post. Thanks ;-) |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| The beginning was average -I'm glad there is killing -If they keep up with this animation and mecha fights i will keep watching -Main character is pretty much a coward i bet he breaks down next episode. |
| Am I like the only person who felt that him getting into the mecha was painfully forced? And actually being able to use it effectively? ... Because I found myself cringing at the poor writing. I also very much hope Ms. Heroine stays dead. She wasn't that bad a character, I just really don't want Mr. MC to complain about this throughout the whole show. Get over it. Go pilot your stolen(?) robot and kick some butt please. If she turns out to be alive and fall into enemy hands (I have a bad feeling)... Just shoot me. speaking of which my opinion of the show before the op; blehhh might continue to watch... My opinion after the op; 0___o Did he just?? ... *rewinds* .... *rewinds again* I am now very anxiously waiting an explanation. |
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Nyron said: My expectations for mecha anime are very high Also one does not simply mashup two pop song artists into an OP and have it be good Scryed and 08th ms team were great I was trying to make a point about how low sunrise has fallen since then Also also Attack on Titan is totally mecha. You gotta read that manga Your "point" was fairly abysmal. You have high expectations for mecha anime, and yet.... MP. Seriously. In regards to the OP, I just...??? You've said nothing but "it sucks" without continuing with anything respectfully critical. Your use of "mashup" is also incorrect, btw. Again, I wonder if we were even listening to/watching the same thing. |
Firixizu_Mint said: ...The animation was a bit lazy, but overall decent... I'm always a horrible judge with animation. but, the animation here was pretty good. Loved the eye designs. |
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hull1996 said: Am I like the only person who felt that him getting into the mecha was painfully forced? While watching RAW, I felt like it was being dragged a little. However, it got better in the subed version since I am more engaged in what's going on. hull1996 said: And actually being able to use it effectively? The explantion maybe is in the next episode. It cetainly has something to do with 'not being human' I guess that the MC somehow synchronizes with the robot, and becoming 'two-in-one' Thus, he can drive it effectively without problem, and he will live as long as the robot survives. |
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bippo said: So Kira is a vampire now huh. Fucking Sunrise. I'm in. Haruto definitely reminded me of Kira with his kind and peaceful nature...even the revenge part, except this time, it's for a girl. Holy hell was I surprised at the end when that guy just stabbed Haruto like that, then proceeded to shoot Haruto o_O all that blood. I really wasn't expecting it, but there was a good amount of bloodshed in this episode. And that red hair guy who's voiced by KajiKaji seems pretty crazy...when he saw that one of the staff was still alive, he got excited and shot him repeatedly. Hm, seems like one of those unnecessary crazy antagonist that I've seen in Gundam Seed...we don't need any of those shallow annoying ass antagonists, thank you very much. Still, I like the character designs, but that's about it for this episode. Since it's 2 cour/seasons, it should get better. I won't judge too much since it's only the first episode. Besides, that last part was pretty creepy. Obviously Haruto wasn't dead but I definitely didn't predict that he would go and bite that silver hair guy. |
| Best mecha action since Gundam 00 and Gundam Unicorn. Screw the childish crappy Gundam Age. SUNRISE's still the king of mecha anime. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| Jesus fuck I was surprised with that vampire thing!! |
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| Plot is pretty much a standard Gundam story. Invasion of a neutral colony hiding a new prototype, boy meets Gundam, boy is Newtype etc. But overall the episode was more enjoyable than the first episodes of the other two /m/ shows. Hope that girl stays dead. |
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ThangLong said: Get bodied, +1 to you.Nyron said: N o one watched phi brain. And don't get ME started on T&B. The show went from 10/10 to god awful in the last third. that show killed all the faith I had left Iin them You rated T&B 9 in your review so I don't know why that 'god awful' that 'killed all the faith I left in them' come from? In your other account, you rated Code Geass R2, Sunrise flagship Mecha of its time, a 3. So your beef with Sunrise has been going on for so long indeed. No wonder why you go for such length to trash Valvrare. You wrote both in the episode thread and the review page just to make your view seen. You even get out of your way to praise Majestic Prince, a show riddles with even more cliques and has worse character designs than Valvrare, as something on par with Gargantia! Sorry, but that's where you lost me on your whole supposedly impartial and objective review. You whole goal of trashing the show and Sunrise, and trying to persuade people to not even give the show a chance really reveals here, no matter how many words you wrote to cover it. But actually, I do wonder if those are your honest opinions considering you praise some abysmal writings like Aquarion Evol so much. If that is the case, I seriously question your taste in Mecha anime Valvrare is not something ground-breaking, but it's a solid Mecha show. From the animation, character design, to the overall plot all radiate Mecha feel. It's similar to other Sunrise shows, but that's a working and well received formula so I don't see why the studio has to make something different. Unless you are not into Sunrise's Mecha, I don't see why you can hate it. For newbie to the genre, it's certainly pretty and interesting enough to keep them watching. All in all, I object to your views on Valvrare. Your mini review is well written. But it does not mean your opinion is impartial, or even correct |
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ThangLong said: Nyron said: N o one watched phi brain. And don't get ME started on T&B. The show went from 10/10 to god awful in the last third. that show killed all the faith I had left Iin them You rated T&B 9 in your review so I don't know why that 'god awful' that 'killed all the faith I left in them' come from? In your other account, you rated Code Geass R2, Sunrise flagship Mecha of its time, a 3. So your beef with Sunrise has been going on for so long indeed. No wonder why you go for such length to trash Valvrare. You wrote both in the episode thread and the review page just to make your view seen. You even get out of your way to praise Majestic Prince, a show riddles with even more cliques and has worse character designs than Valvrare, as something on par with Gargantia! Sorry, but that's where you lost me on your whole supposedly impartial and objective review. You whole goal of trashing the show and Sunrise, and trying to persuade people to not even give the show a chance really reveals here, no matter how many words you wrote to cover it. But actually, I do wonder if those are your honest opinions considering you praise some abysmal writings like Aquarion Evol so much. If that is the case, I seriously question your taste in Mecha anime Valvrare is not something ground-breaking, but it's a solid Mecha show. From the animation, character design, to the overall plot all radiate Mecha feel. It's similar to other Sunrise shows, but that's a working and well received formula so I don't see why the studio has to make something different. Unless you are not into Sunrise's Mecha, I don't see why you can hate it. For newbie to the genre, it's certainly pretty and interesting enough to keep them watching. All in all, I object to your views on Valvrare. Your mini review is well written. But it does not mean your opinion is impartial, or even correct Damn.lol. Anyways. It felt really typical of Sunrise for the most part at first. But the the whole vampire like deal threw it off.lol. I didn't expect that. He got up and bit the other guy. So that suit turned him into a vampire? Its interesting and that suit was pretty badass. I like the Samurai theme of it. |
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| I hate mecha anime but the end was creepy XD |
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| Really good first episode in my opinion. The action was intense and the visuals look to be top notch. I see a lot of potential in this show since it seems to possess the right amount of seriousness and lightheartedness all at once. It sucks the MC's love interest had to die in the first episode, but for some reason I don't think she's really dead. I could be totally wrong but whatever, it's just a hunch. The rivalry between the MC and the white haired kid seems to have been set into motion, hopefully we'll get some good mecha action from those two in the future. The ending scene really threw me for a loop with the whole sudden zombie transformation and everything. I guess whoever pilots Valvrave has to become a zombie or something?! Anyway great first episode, and I really look forward to watching the rest of this series! |
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| So... a mobile suit that turns you into a vampire. That's new. |
| ...gundam seed 2? Yep, gundam seed 2. :DDDD First impressions: 7/10 |
| I hope Shouko is not dead. 5/5 |
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| Meh I'm not really impress with the MC and most of the character but the animation is great so I guess I'm giving it 7.5/10 |
MyAmyApr 12, 2013 3:42 AM
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| 1st episode was good but that ending is killing. |
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| Holy shit that ending. I'm hooked, I'll be looking forward to seeing each episode on a weekly basis. |
Irenesharda said: Pknoctis said: Eh. So far, premise has been an exact mix of Gundam Seed and Gundam Seed Destiny. Gundam Seed: -Outsiders invade neutral colony, lots of innocents die -Kid gets in a mech and does a lot of damage -Tension between MC and another kid from opposing faction Gundam Seed Destiny: -Beloved dies (or did she? they didn't show her body) -In response, MC screams into the air -MC decides to pilot a mecha because of their beloved This show is what you could call a Gundam clone, and believe me, not just Gundam Seed/Destiny and Gundam 00 have done this. All Gundams all the way back to Gundam 0079 have these elements in one way or another. After a while, you can probably just plot out the first episode of any given Gundam series in your sleep. they literally have a formula. I don't really see your point when Mecha has been doing the exact same stuff since Go Nagai. 99% of mecha has a character "stumbling" into a mecha and magically learning how to control it. What type of mecha anime doesn't have 2 opposing sides fighting because of some type of war? I mean, yeah, you could say this is similar to Gundam in more ways then 1, but calling it a Gundam clone is just a bit ignorant. Just saying that I honestly think the reason people choose to compare every mecha to Gundam is because it's mainstream and it's usually the anime that people think about when Mecha comes to mind. |
AvakianApr 12, 2013 4:28 AM
| Never watched Gundam or much mecha, so I don't have much to compare it to. But at least this anime seems better than Majestic Prince >.<. Will watch for a few episodes. Wow, blood and deaths (not even drawn out deaths!) in an anime! Haven't seen that in a while; I'm pleasantly surprised. |
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SquChan said: Wow this opening was fantastic. T.M. Revolution + Mizuki Nana had to be double awesome, no doubt. But ofc I also liked the episode. I guess if the girl you love dies, you couldn't care less about resigning as human being lol But dat end! Hadn't a WTF?!-moment like this in ages. He turned into a friggin' vampire (without fangs)?! So far I like none of the characters..................... but I guess that is too soon to say anyways. However.. I want THIS OPENING! In full! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ This pretty sum up my thoughts. |
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| the first episode is great...mecha along with supernatural...wait can i consider it supernatural?well great episode, uncensored violence as well as the color in the battle scene is outstanding... anyway...is it really a vampire?i thought it's a zombie... |
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