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Here are the weekly Blu-ray & CD rankings for 11th - 17th.

Blu-ray
*1, 5,532 *5,532 K vol.7
*2, 5,354 *5,354 K vol.6
*3, 2,953 45,833 Nekomonogatari: Kuro vol.1 Limited Edition
*4, 1,170 34,706 Ookami Kodomo no Ame to Yuki Blu-ray
*5, *,749 11,108 Ookami Kodomo no Ame to Yuki Blu-ray + DVD
*6, *,498 *5,294 Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru vol.1 Limited Edition
*7, *,482 27,313 Sword Art Online vol.5 Limited Edition
*8, *,454 23,917 Biohazard: Damnation Limited Edition
*9, *,415 *2,773 GJ-bu vol.1
10, *,375 23,598 Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199 vol.4

DVD
*1, 2,695 *,**2,695 K vol.7
*2, 2,638 *,*36,154 Ookami Kodomo no Ame to Yuki DVD
*3, 2,528 *,**2,528 K vol.6
*4, 1,891 *,**8,734 Initial D Fifth Stage vol.3
*5, *,792 *,*24,952 Biohazard: Damnation
*6, *,786 *,***,786 Himitsukessha Taka no Tsume NEO vol.5
*7, *,690 *,**6,344 Nekomonogatari: Kuro vol.1 Limited Edition
*8, *,656 *,**4,399 Aikatsu! vol.1
*9, *,558 1,182,584 Tonari no Totoro
16, *,380 *,*19,531 Kuroko no Basket vol.8
17, *,379 *,**6,117 Kamiusagi Rope
18, *,376 *,**6,272 Kamiusagi Rope 3
19, *,343 *,500,667 Majo no Takkyuubin
20, *,340 *,**7,736 Yorinuki Gintama-san On Theater 2D Kabuki-cho Shitennoh Hen Limited Edition
22, *,337 *,**5,840 Kamiusagi Rope Movie
26, *,316 *,**6,749 Kamiusagi Rope 2
30, *,291 *,*10,649 Initial D Fifth Stage vol.2

Single CD
10, 10,979 10,979 Gintama "Sakuramitsusuki"
11, 10,881 10,881 Magi "The Bravery"
16, *6,997 *6,997 Ogura Yui & Ishihara Kaori "Shiny Blue"
18, *6,717 41,435 Magi "Matataku Hoshi no Shita de"
23, *5,016 25,981 Psycho-Pass "All Alone With You"
24, *4,180 82,063 Doraemon: Nobita no Himitsu Dogu Hakubutsukan "Mirai no Museum"
29, *3,147 16,609 Love Live! School Idol Project "Korekara no Someday" "Wonder zone"
30, *3,087 13,115 Dokidoki! Precure "Happy Go Lucky! DokiDoki! Precure" "Kono Sora no Mukoh"
31, *2,753 13,746 Psycho-Pass "Out of Control"
38, *1,963 *1,963 Hatano Wataru "Kimi wa Boku no Kaeru Basho"
47, *1,683 *1,683 Precure All Stars New Stage 2: Kokoro no Tomodachi "Precure ~Eien no Tomodashi~ 2013 version" "Minna Tomodachi"

Source: Oricon Youtaiju
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Seems like K have it good. I don't really like K.
 
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11, 10,881 10,881 Magi "The Bravery"

Nice though I wish it has more sales.
 
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Nice to see that Supercell with Koeda is selling :)

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16, *,380 *,*19,531 Kuroko no Basket vol.8

Glad to see Kuroko.
 
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Key observations

- The last 2 volumes of "K" are vastly boosted by event tickets. Whereas the first week sales of K vol.5 was around 5.5k, here we see around 8k sales for vol.6 & 7

- Nekomonogatari added another 3.7k of sales. According to anecdotes I saw in Japanese forum, quite many casual fans of the -monogatari series did not even know the OVA was released (much less aired on TV) already. This would explain its bigger tail compared to other anime. This brings it much closer to what the last volume of Nise (just short of 60k).

- OreShura and GJ-bu have accumulated sales. Most likely to see them again next week because of the flood of new titles coming.

- Aikatsu v1 is also showing strength. A minor surprise hit for 2012 Fall anime.

- ROBOTICS;NOTES OP single failed to chart !!
Modified by symbv, Mar 19, 2013 3:17 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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dtshyk said:

Blu-ray
*3, 2,953 45,833 Nekomonogatari: Kuro vol.1 Limited Edition
*6, *,498 *5,294 Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru vol.1 Limited Edition
*7, *,482 27,313 Sword Art Online vol.5 Limited Edition
*9, *,415 *2,773 GJ-bu vol.1

DVD
*7, *,690 *,**6,344 Nekomonogatari: Kuro vol.1 Limited Edition


Nice to see a big follow-up for NekoKuro v1.

Good to see OreShura v1 and SAO v5 continue to truck on and nice to see GJ-bu v1 add more.

This is really the calm before the storm... Next week is going to have pretty high thresholds with many "hits" coming out in the March 18~24 week. And some of them like Gundam UC v6 and Nanoha Movie 2 having multiple editions that will rank as well, lol.

Gundam UC v6
GaruPan v3
KuroBas v9
Horizon II v7
Nanoha Movie 2
Love Live! v1
Chu2koi! v4
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23, *5,016 25,981 Psycho-Pass "All Alone With You" HAH xD

and srsly K really doesnt deserve that -.-
 
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Ejc said:

This is really the calm before the storm... Next week is going to have pretty high thresholds with many "hits" coming out in the March 18~24 week. And some of them like Gundam UC v6 and Nanoha Movie 2 having multiple editions that will rank as well, lol.

Gundam UC v6
GaruPan v3
KuroBas v9
Horizon II v7
Nanoha Movie 2
Love Live! v1
Chu2koi! v4


In the coming week, there are indeed a lot of titles being released...

Just for this season's anime:

**,*** ** Zettai Karen Children -The Unlimited- Hyoubu Kyousuke [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/20
**,*** ** D.C.III ~Da Capo III~ [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/20
**,*** ** Maoyuu Maou Yuusha [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/20
**,*** ** Tamako Market [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/20
**,*** ** Ai Mai Mii [DVD]: 2013/03/22
**,*** ** Hakkenden Touhou Hakken Ibun [DVD+BD]: 2012/03/22
**,*** ** Love Live! [BD]: 2012/03/22

And then we have the following that seem strong enough to have a chance at a spot in the top 10 list.

UC Gundam v6 - deluxe, regular editons
Nanona movie 2nd - super deluxe, deluxe, regular editions
GirlPan v3
Horizon2 v7
Chunibyou v4
Psycho-Pass v4
KuroBas v9
Smile Precure movie
Precure all stars BD Box
Hanasaku Iroha BD Box
Saki Achiga-hen v8
Gundam Seed C.E.73 Stargazer
Total Eclipse v7
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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WTF. K is not that great to be in the top spot.
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Disappointed that Stacatto Days (Yama no Susume) didn't rank on CD singles :(

Glad Someday / Wonder Zone is still selling well. Can't wait to see how BD1 does next week for LoveLive!

Happy to see Nekomonogatari, Ookami and Oreshura adding more.

Edit: looking not so forward to the numbers for D.C.III.

Garupan v3 a chance at top ten? I should think so! Top current release perhaps.
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Nothing surprising. Waiting for Nanoha Movie 2. Hope it would be the same hit as first one
 
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Nice to see K doing this well. Looking forward to the next season!
 
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WTF. K is not that great to be in the top spot.


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Rating: 9/10
Huh?

Its not good nor bad, just highly above average.
 
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*1, 5,532 *5,532 K vol.7
*2, 5,354 *5,354 K vol.6

Aaaawww yeah!
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Rasen-No-Hikari said:

and srsly K really doesnt deserve that -.-


what you expect...
cool ikemen with semi yaoi plot, all fujoshi gonna fap it...

 
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WTF. K is not that great to be in the top spot.
You expect other titles in their 2nd or 3rd week to outsell K in its first week? It is not a matter of whether K is great but simple practical market maths that K is in the top spot.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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dtshyk said:
Blu-ray
*1, 5,532 *5,532 K vol.7
*2, 5,354 *5,354 K vol.6

DVD
*1, 2,695 *,**2,695 K vol.7

Nice, For Vol.7, the character songs might be helping with the sale. I like them.

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Single CD
18, *6,717 41,435 Magi "Matataku Hoshi no Shita de"
24, *4,180 82,063 Doraemon: Nobita no Himitsu Dogu Hakubutsukan "Mirai no Museum"
31, *2,753 13,746 Psycho-Pass "Out of Control"
38, *1,963 *1,963 Hatano Wataru "Kimi wa Boku no Kaeru Basho"

Nice job, Hatano-san.
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jmal said:
I'd say the opposite so far: this is fairly small second week. It's smaller than any Nise second week in absolute numbers and smaller than all but Nise v1 in terms of percentage of the first two weeks. It's still 7k behind any Nise volume as well.
I agree with the numbers. My focus is mainly on how Neko-Kuro v1 compared with the last volume out in the -monogatari franchise, which is Nise v5. And I think I misstated my point - instead of "bigger tail" the speculation is more about a "longer tail".

And I am also thinking a final figure of around 54-55k.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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Aikatsu...strong...unbelievable...

Also, I hate to say this but Ryo should find the next guest vocal for supercell. I love koeda but she is dragging the group to hell. (i hope no one on the vocaloid forum will see this XD )
 
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Wow! Pretty good sales for K! Hopefully the 2nd season comes soon!

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Also, I hate to say this but Ryo should find the next guest vocal for supercell. I love koeda but she is dragging the group to hell. (i hope no one on the vocaloid forum will see this XD )


I kinda agree with this, she's a little screamy for my liking ^^;
 
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bippo said:

Also, I hate to say this but Ryo should find the next guest vocal for supercell. I love koeda but she is dragging the group to hell. (i hope no one on the vocaloid forum will see this XD )


I kinda agree with this, she's a little screamy for my liking ^^;

heh there is someone better than koeda and thats chelly >.<
 
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K? Really? -.-
 
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While the big titles are fighting for the top of the charts, K sneaks in and nicks a few thousand sales.
The release of atomic energy has not created a new problem. It has merely made more urgent the necessity of solving an existing one. - Albert Einstein
 
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I see Supercell raking in the dough. Not bad
 
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Rasen-No-Hikari said:
mistress_kisara said:

bippo said:

Also, I hate to say this but Ryo should find the next guest vocal for supercell. I love koeda but she is dragging the group to hell. (i hope no one on the vocaloid forum will see this XD )


I kinda agree with this, she's a little screamy for my liking ^^;

heh there is someone better than koeda and thats chelly >.<


Chelly already has Egoist project with Ryo. Don't see the reason for her to became part of Supercell.
 
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Glad to see Neko up there, lol.
 
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Resident Evil damnation looking good. This movie has the best animation to date. Cant wait for it to come over seas.
 
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Nachtwandler_21 said:
Rasen-No-Hikari said:
mistress_kisara said:

bippo said:

Also, I hate to say this but Ryo should find the next guest vocal for supercell. I love koeda but she is dragging the group to hell. (i hope no one on the vocaloid forum will see this XD )


I kinda agree with this, she's a little screamy for my liking ^^;

heh there is someone better than koeda and thats chelly >.<


Chelly already has Egoist project with Ryo. Don't see the reason for her to became part of Supercell.

bro chelly(egoist) IS from supercell the name *EGOIST* is just left from Guilty Crown and they didnt touch it or change it back to supercell and chelly joined supercell by winning some event of recruitment for supercell anyway

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Resident Evil damnation looking good. This movie has the best animation to date. Cant wait for it to come over seas.

hmm its 3D to begin with and it failed in story
 
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~52k for NekoKuro. not bad.
next week's gonna be amazing

 
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Next week is Love Live! release right? Gotta wait for that one
 
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Wow! Pretty good sales for K! Hopefully the 2nd season comes soon!


A second season has already been announced.

Also, to those who are saying K doesn't deserve being at the top, this ain't about which anime is best. This is about which anime can pander to it's target market the best. And quite clearly, K managed to do it brilliantly. Seriously, this is like asking why a KyoAni anime sells well.
 
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Seriously, this is like asking why a KyoAni anime sells well.
While what you said about K has good point, on KyoAni the truth is these days a KyoAni anime does not necessarily sell well. Look at Nichijou. And Tamako Market is likely to perform well below early expectation. If the pandering theory is correct, one may say that perhaps KyoAni does not really pander to its target market always that well, or it does not really do as much pandering as many stereotypical views have it. At the end, I think asking why a KyoAni anime sells well is as valid as asking why an anime by any other studio sells well.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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And then BOOM, My Neighbor Totoro out of fucking nowhere.

Does it really count as out of nowhere if it's ranked nearly every week for over 11 years? =P


I almost wonder if people are just being sarcastic bringing it up now since they know you'll always respond to it every week.

 
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yhunata said:
Seriously, this is like asking why a KyoAni anime sells well.
While what you said about K has good point, on KyoAni the truth is these days a KyoAni anime does not necessarily sell well. Look at Nichijou. And Tamako Market is likely to perform well below early expectation. If the pandering theory is correct, one may say that perhaps KyoAni does not really pander to its target market always that well, or it does not really do as much pandering as many stereotypical views have it. At the end, I think asking why a KyoAni anime sells well is as valid as asking why an anime by any other studio sells well.


I was referring to the earlier ones and ones like Chuunibyou, but you got the point. And it's actually quite sad if they can't meet their target markets that well. That's pretty much the only thing they've got to run on. It would be a sad day for the anime industry if KyoAni were to shut down, simply for the loss of their beautiful animation.
 
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RyanSaotome said:
jmal said:
DEMOLITION_D said:
And then BOOM, My Neighbor Totoro out of fucking nowhere.

Does it really count as out of nowhere if it's ranked nearly every week for over 11 years? =P


I almost wonder if people are just being sarcastic bringing it up now since they know you'll always respond to it every week.


It think the original comment is already sarcastic lol. Totoro is a classic that will continue to sell as long as babies are born in Japan xD. This is just like people commented on One Piece earlier in the manga news section
 
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Regarding K topped the week's chart, I think it's mainly because this is a slow week, as well as the the event ticket that symbv mentioned. First week's 5k is so-so for an anime with that much production value.
 
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I was referring to the earlier ones and ones like Chuunibyou, but you got the point.
Well, then you seem to pick and choose only the successful KyoAni titles. I mean, even early KyoAni has big failure like Munto, and recent KyoAni has failure like Nichijou. The bottom line is there is a point of asking why a KyoAni anime sells well, because KyoAni anime does not always sell well either.

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And it's actually quite sad if they can't meet their target markets that well. That's pretty much the only thing they've got to run on. It would be a sad day for the anime industry if KyoAni were to shut down, simply for the loss of their beautiful animation.
Very much agree. I always have very high respect for KyoAni, and it is not just the quality of animation, the fact that its show does not always sell well actually indicates a willingness not to always pander but to tread new ground, even though to its detractors what they do look all the same.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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symbv said:
yhunata said:
I was referring to the earlier ones and ones like Chuunibyou, but you got the point.
Well, then you seem to pick and choose only the successful KyoAni titles. I mean, even early KyoAni has big failure like Munto, and recent KyoAni has failure like Nichijou. The bottom line is there is a point of asking why a KyoAni anime sells well, because KyoAni anime does not always sell well either.


Seems I had a poor choice of words. I shouldn't have mentioned a specific studio.

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yhunata said:
And it's actually quite sad if they can't meet their target markets that well. That's pretty much the only thing they've got to run on. It would be a sad day for the anime industry if KyoAni were to shut down, simply for the loss of their beautiful animation.
Very much agree. I always have very high respect for KyoAni, and it is not just the quality of animation, the fact that its show does not always sell well actually indicates a willingness not to always pander but to tread new ground, even though to its detractors what they do look all the same.


Too bad our respect is not shared by everyone. It would be great if they tried to create a different type of anime, though that's unlikely to ever happen.
 
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K is selling a lot, so it might really get a second season, too bad didn't like it, Btooom was so much better!
 
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K is selling a lot, so it might really get a second season, too bad didn't like it, Btooom was so much better!


I agree but BTOOOM 4 will be lucky to get ranked at all next week. Don't understand but... oh well!
 
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K is selling a lot, so it might really get a second season, too bad didn't like it, Btooom was so much better!


Like I said in the previous page, K already has a confirmed second season coming.
 
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O.o Aikatsu is on the list. Yet, is a good anime, but for me not enought to buy a DVD of the serie
 
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yhunata said:

symbv said:
yhunata said:
And it's actually quite sad if they can't meet their target markets that well. That's pretty much the only thing they've got to run on. It would be a sad day for the anime industry if KyoAni were to shut down, simply for the loss of their beautiful animation.
Very much agree. I always have very high respect for KyoAni, and it is not just the quality of animation, the fact that its show does not always sell well actually indicates a willingness not to always pander but to tread new ground, even though to its detractors what they do look all the same.


Too bad our respect is not shared by everyone. It would be great if they tried to create a different type of anime, though that's unlikely to ever happen.


I respect KyoAni as well. It's just that I cannot bring myself watching their recent releases since they all feel the same to me. KyoAni these days is just going around, picking up some obscures titles while studios like JC Staff and A1 keep stocking up popular adaptations. It's not "breaking grounds" if you pick up obscure titles, but then still use the same old drawing styles and plot devices tainted by the Moe stigma that people have come to associate KyoAni with.

I'm disappointed considering how much potential had been wasted when KyoAni not adapting popular stuffs out there like SAO or Little Buster. Imagine what would have turned out for those series. KyoAni needs a change of direction, and fast. Just copy what Sunrise did. They are the best at diversifying their works
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yhunata said:
symbv said:
yhunata said:
Seriously, this is like asking why a KyoAni anime sells well.
While what you said about K has good point, on KyoAni the truth is these days a KyoAni anime does not necessarily sell well. Look at Nichijou. And Tamako Market is likely to perform well below early expectation. If the pandering theory is correct, one may say that perhaps KyoAni does not really pander to its target market always that well, or it does not really do as much pandering as many stereotypical views have it. At the end, I think asking why a KyoAni anime sells well is as valid as asking why an anime by any other studio sells well.


I was referring to the earlier ones and ones like Chuunibyou, but you got the point. And it's actually quite sad if they can't meet their target markets that well. That's pretty much the only thing they've got to run on. It would be a sad day for the anime industry if KyoAni were to shut down, simply for the loss of their beautiful animation.


On the other hand it would get rid of a lot of disinformation, misconceptions, inter-fandom drama (the Shaft vs. Kyoani thing is just insufferable and you'd sometimes think they are the only two studios worth paying attention to the way some diehards go on about them) and just general unpleasantness within the western anime community right off the bat. Frankly after all the crap I've had to deal with from Kyoani fans over the years and just how much damage I think their existence has done to peoples conceptions of anime, the fanbase, moe, and the relationships within communities I would not shed a single tear if they were to just go away. I mean I'd feel sorry for the people that genuinely just like their stuff and aren't obnoxious about their appreciation of it by putting other stuff down at the same time, but the benefits I can see of them just never being a factor in anime again far outweigh whatever might be lost, which right now looks to me to just be a specific fluid style of animation with specific character designs.

Also I think people are grossly underestimating how many units Tamako Market is going to move. It's first volume is currently occupying the #27 spot on the Amazon Bestseller charts as an example and the 2nd volume has been steadily climbing as well. It must have done something to get attention back, but god help me if I could possibly guess what as I'm really not good at honing in on the things that Japanese fans go nuts for. I'm not seeing signs of it being another major smash hit, but it's not looking like a major bomb either.

I guess you can count me as another one of those people that sees the Kyoani fanbase as crazy devoted and who has the hunch that no matter what their output it will sell respectably because of that strong devotion and obligation to support them within the base. If it does do well (Going to claim well to be 6,000-7,000+ per volume here) I think it'll provide a fair bit of proof for the theory that diehard fans showed up at the 11th hour to I suppose pay their dues. If not then I'd say symbv/jmal's points stand. Very curious to see what happens here as even the pro-Kyoani crowd seems very certain it'll be a disappointing return come next Monday, whereas I'll believe it when I see it.

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I'm disappointed considering how much potential had been wasted when KyoAni not adapting popular stuffs out there like SAO or Little Buster. Imagine what would have turned out for those series. KyoAni needs a change of direction, and fast. Just copy what Sunrise did. They are the best at diversifying their works


The problem with this is that Sunrise is almost impossibly huge and in a rare position where they are set up to do this sort of thing and diversify while Kyoani isn't really if for no other reason than the simply lack the same access to diverse resources and talents. Sunrise is essentially a collection of producers with a stupid amount of capital and human resources to draw on from outside the company (think like New York Yankees buying their team type deal), whereas Kyoani is very much an animation studio in the traditional sense (think Mushi Production) that keeps a familiar in house staff that essentially contribute on every project. It's not to the point of Shaft where they literally have only have one director who controls basically the entire vision and direction of the studios projects, but it's not hard to see how a lot of their stuff can end up feeling sameish when it's a lot of the same people working on every project.

Compare that to Sunrise who are subdivided into approximately 10 different sub-studios each with their own assigned producer pursuing their own ideas and who can and will simply hire the staff and cast they need for a given project based on their resume and also pull on Namco Bandai's internal resources like Lantis large retention of music artists and you can see why they have such a different approach by necessity. Sunrise is also in a rare position because of it's size, history, reputation, capital and position as a Namco Bandai subsidiary to essentially be it's own content publisher and to deliver a steady stream of it's own original copyrighted franchises.

Unless Kyoani suddenly has a major turnover in staff or starts to look a little more for outside talent to come in and work with them on a project I expect the ideas, processes and overall output to remain very familiar.
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didn´t" K" had high production cost? Is 8 k really enought to cover the cost?
 
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I see you are still unaware of how much much more aggressively, overwhelmingly negative you are than any of the people you're so offended by. How unfortunate.


The speed with which people such as yourself immediately dash to the defensive without even understanding the charges being made and as if what I'm saying couldn't possibly have a hint of truth to it is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about here. Although I was also talking about people that follow their stuff just to criticize it for being moe pandering. In general though I was simply talking about all the extremism that surrounds the studios output and reputation in general both positive and negative that I'd love to see the community rid of for good. If you want to deny that that sort of extremism and drama exists around Kyoani that's fine I suppose, it just puts further proof to my point at the end of the day that people don't want to acknowledge that Kyoani fandom has problems.
 
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jmal said:
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didn´t" K" had high production cost? Is 8 k really enought to cover the cost?

I'm not sure it did have that high a cost, honestly. My impression from watching the whole show is that it managed to "do more with less". There's a lot of stock repeated footage, especially for attacks, and production values in general dropped later on in the show. I never minded too much because it was good silly fun, but visually it was definitely noticeable. I think K papered over some of its production deficiencies fairly well with the heavily stylized art.

I can't say if the DVD/BDs covered the cost all by themselves, but it's pretty common for that not to happen even with decently successful shows anyway. A lot of money gets made up with music, print adaptations, license fees/streaming revenue, and of course merchandise. If DVD/BDs alone cover costs, you've probably got a very very successful show on your hands.

Yeah, GoRA did say that it got a 2nd season because "there was a lot of support from the fans". K has a HUGE pile of merchandises available :D
 
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I'm really scratching my head at K's sales figures.
 
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The speed with which people such as yourself immediately dash to the defensive without even understanding the charges being made and as if what I'm saying couldn't possibly have a hint of truth to it is exactly the sort of thing I'm talking about here.

Come now, don't imply you're saying anything new. It's not jumping to conclusions if I've seen the same stereotypes a dozen times now. You're offended by the cruel indignities you've suffered at the hands of crazed zealots who are ruining anime and [etc]. Tossing in an offhand caveat about "oh except for a couple reasonable ones", as if that undoes the massive stereotyping you engaged in for sentences or paragraphs, is a cheap trick. Sorry, I tried way harder than was reasonable to find something fair in your position, but then every time you'd turn around and undo it all with the force of a nuke a week or two later the next time you posted. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. No more.


You're refusal to acknowledge any of these things as anything other than 100% stereotypes (I assume the whole thing with Little Busters as an example of what I'm talking about just never happened) or to even acknowledge that there's a hint of truth to any of these assertions I've made is again EXACTLY the sort of thing I'm talking about and almost creating a meta-level conversation. Just so entrenched and unwilling to engage the issue because you think it's unpleasant or mean-spirited or something. I mean I'm a huge fan of Gundam for example and think the world of the franchise, but I still acknowledge that there's huge image problems with extremism and disinformation within that community that comes off as undesirable to a lot of people. It's unpleasant, but I'm not going to deny it's there or try to accuse people of simply stereotyping when they point out how it's kept them from getting into the franchise or when they say the fans scare them away.

But sure whatever man, it's all just a bunch of stereotyping any time anybody suggests there's drama, misinformation and fanaticism surrounding Kyoani and there's just no truth to any of it. I'll just tell you what you want to hear from now on and everyone can be happy and march forward in flat out denial as the perfect happy community. Sigh.....
 
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