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Dec 18, 2012 4:58 AM
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Here are the weekly Blu-ray & CD rankings for December 10th - 16th. Blu-ray *1, 1,290 *9,253 Majo no Takkyuubin *2, *,802 **,802 Sengoku Collection vol.9 *3, *,711 **,711 Sengoku Collection vol.10 *4, *,645 *5,622 Berserk Ougon Jidaihen II: Doldrey Kouryaku *5, *,638 30,073 Sword Art Online vol.2 Limited Edition *6, *,611 *3,579 K vol.3 *7, *,596 **,596 Himitsukessha Taka no Tsume Blu-ray Box vol.1 Limited Edition *8, *,541 22,752 Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199 vol.3 DVD *1, 1,658 *,**1,658 Sengoku Collection vol.l9 *2, 1,477 1,169,808 Tonari no Totoro *3, 1,415 *,**1,415 Sengoku Collection vol.10 *4, *,922 *,**3,705 Sore Ike! Anpanman *5, *,906 *,***,906 Himitsukessha Taka no Tsume NEO vol.2 *6, *,856 *,**7,878 Detective Conan Movie 16: The Eleventh Striker Standard Edition *7, *,774 *,493,603 Majo no Takkyuubin *8, *,708 *,**1,936 Doraemon: Nobita and the Miracle Island - Animal Adventure Standard Edition *9, *,607 *,**4,234 Crayon Shin-chan Movie 20: Arashi wo Yobu! Ora to Uchuu no Princess 10, *,594 *,*11,099 Detective Conan Movie 16: The Eleventh Striker Special Edition Single CD 11, 12,475 *12,457 Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun "White Wishes" 15, *6,688 *28,008 Psycho-Pass "Namae no Nai Kaibutsu" 31, *2,740 *39,754 Sword Art Online "Innocence" 32, *2,735 *26,004 Sword Art Online "Overfly" 35, *2,433 *24,067 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure "Jojo~Sono Chi no Unmei~" 36, *2,416 *16,730 Kuroko no Basket Character Song Solo Series vol.9 Daiki 37, *2,411 *14,720 Saint Seiya Omega "ShinseiΩShinwa" 38, *2,348 115,226 Nerawareta Gakuen "Hikaru Monotachi" 40, *2,193 *46,375 Magi "V.I.P." 41, *2,136 **7,707 Fate/stay night Realta Nua game "Arcadia" 46, *1,948 *13,076 Kuroko no Basket Character Song Solo Series vol.11 Yukio 47, *1,876 *36,163 Ixion Saga DT "DT Suteru" "Let's go ED" Source: Oricon Youtaiju |
dtshykDec 18, 2012 4:59 AM
Dec 18, 2012 5:04 AM
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Tari Tari and Nobuna not ranked for their 2nd week. It may be more surprising for Tari Tari than Nobuna as Nobuna sold <500 copies for its 2nd week in the previous volume. On the other hand, K is doing quite well here. All eyes are now on what will prove to be the first critical week for this season's anime with quite a number of titles tipped to be the topsellers in this season releasing volume 1: **,*** ** Chuunibyou Demo Koi ga Shitai! [DVD+BD]: 2012/12/19 **,*** ** Gintama' Enchousen [DVD]: 2012/12/19 **,*** ** Code:Breaker [DVD+BD]: 2012/12/21 **,*** ** Girls und Panzer [DVD+BD]: 2012/12/21 **,*** ** Hayate no Gotoku! Can't Take My Eyes Off You [DVD+BD]: 2012/12/21 **,*** ** Initial D 5th Stage [DVD+BD]: 2012/12/21 **,*** ** Psycho-Pass [DVD+BD]: 2012/12/21 **,*** ** Jormungand Perfect Order [DVD+BD]: 2012/12/21 **,*** ** To LOVE-Ru Darkness [DVD+BD]: 2012/12/21 |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 5:05 AM
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I can understand Ixion Saga DT numbers, but Magi OP is really that good? |
Dec 18, 2012 5:15 AM
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jmal said: It's from a mainstream act, not anisong singers, named SID. All their recent albums and singles have debuted top 10, some even #1. So I assume it sold based on the band, not the anime. That goes for many high-selling anime OP/EDs. Forgot about that. No wonder Psycho-Pass ED is also in high-numbers, edit: Egoist* is popular around there. I guess the only single who made the top by it's own is JoJo's OP. |
Dec 18, 2012 5:17 AM
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Once again, absolutely nothing. Can't wait for next week though. GuP vs Jojo's vs TLR vs Chuuni for the top selling spots. |
Dec 18, 2012 5:21 AM
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Niyawa said: Wait until you see the figures for Magi ED when it comes next week. It will easily beat even this number for the OP, simply because it is Nogisaka46 who sings it.I can understand Ixion Saga DT numbers, but Magi OP is really that good? |
symbvDec 18, 2012 5:27 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 5:22 AM
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Dec 18, 2012 5:22 AM
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Amarrez said: I listed the vol.1 of this season's anime to be released this week earlier in this thread. You may want to take a look there: Can't wait for next week though. GuP vs Jojo's vs TLR vs Chuuni for the top selling spots. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=533646&show=0#msg18968078 |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 5:32 AM
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Dec 18, 2012 5:34 AM
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jmal said: A close scan of the guesstimates in 2ch gives a range of first week figure of 12k to 18k for its first week and 15k to 21k for grand total. GirlPan should sell a good deal more more than the others there, by maybe 5k, possibly a good deal more. One thing to bear in mind is that Amazon has announced that anyone who orders GirlPan vol.1 on or after Dec 13th will only get the BD/DVD after Jan 11th, but it does not seem to dent any momentum of the title staying high in the sales ranking. It now beats Ookami Kodomo and stays at #4 in the Amazon BD/DVD bestseller ranking. jmal said: Chuunibyou is being viewed less and less favorably by fans in Japan, and the latest episode (ep.11) has one of the worst feedbacks I have seen for KyoAni anime in the last 2 years. I know you consider ep.11 to be one of KyoAni's recent best but unfortunately it is the opposite case in Japan. The limited number of people who read the original novel hate it. Most of those who have not read the novels are uncomfortable with the delicate balancing act of comedy vs drama, and the various weight placed on different characters. There are a few who love the recent development but they are outnumbered by those who dislike it. The final episode may give solace to those who feel they are disappointed by what they've seen so far, but many already think even so it is too little too late to save this anime. Still the KyoAni brand is powerful and there seem to be sufficient people who still find the anime to their liking to keep it very competitive to be one of the top 4 sellers among this season's anime.Chuunibyou might be second of the ones coming out next week (putting aside Gintama which is just a few new eps, not a full season) but it's been pretty flat the past week or two so I'm not sure how waiting for the final ep might be affecting sales. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 5:39 AM
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How are sales for LB! looking? It also comes out next week (or in 2 weeks, I'm not sure since it's out on the 26th). |
Dec 18, 2012 5:41 AM
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Limechan said: How are sales for LB! looking? It also comes out next week (or in 2 weeks, I'm not sure since it's out on the 26th). 5-6k, somewhere in that bracket. http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?n=B009ES4JK6 |
Dec 18, 2012 5:46 AM
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Amarrez said: Limechan said: How are sales for LB! looking? It also comes out next week (or in 2 weeks, I'm not sure since it's out on the 26th). 5-6k, somewhere in that bracket. http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?n=B009ES4JK6 Is that good? I don't know much about sale values, so... LB!, GuP and Sakurasou are my favourite animes of this season, so I'd love to see them all selling well. |
Dec 18, 2012 5:48 AM
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Amarrez said: Don't forget the 1.3k or so of the DVD as well. For LB! the DVD sales may not be negligible:Limechan said: How are sales for LB! looking? It also comes out next week (or in 2 weeks, I'm not sure since it's out on the 26th). 5-6k, somewhere in that bracket. http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?n=B009ES4JK6 http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?n=B009ES4KQE |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 5:49 AM
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LB is doing alright, but not amazingly. More than enough to make some profit. Sakurasou is on course to flop. Might not even get 2k sales. GuP will almost certainly be the highest selling show of the season, I'd say around 20k. |
Dec 18, 2012 5:51 AM
#17
K. Season 2 when? |
Dec 18, 2012 6:05 AM
#18
dtshyk said: Single CD 11, 12,475 *12,457 Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun "White Wishes" 15, *6,688 *28,008 Psycho-Pass "Namae no Nai Kaibutsu" 31, *2,740 *39,754 Sword Art Online "Innocence" 32, *2,735 *26,004 Sword Art Online "Overfly" 40, *2,193 *46,375 Magi "V.I.P." 47, *1,876 *36,163 Ixion Saga DT "DT Suteru" "Let's go ED" White Wishes is on a good ranking! |
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Dec 18, 2012 6:06 AM
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Amarrez said: LB is doing alright, but not amazingly. More than enough to make some profit. Sakurasou is on course to flop. Might not even get 2k sales. GuP will almost certainly be the highest selling show of the season, I'd say around 20k. How is that possible when Sakurasou is getting so many good critics and is ranking higher in most anime websites than GuP and LB!? |
Dec 18, 2012 6:07 AM
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Because the anime websites you're talking about are western. We're talking about Japanese sales. I think you'll find that Japanese and Western tastes are quite different sometimes. |
Dec 18, 2012 6:09 AM
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Limechan said: Let's check one by one:Is that good? I don't know much about sale values, so... LB!, GuP and Sakurasou are my favourite animes of this season, so I'd love to see them all selling well. LB! - Much lower than the initial expectation when the season starts. The strong franchise of the VN does not seem to have much effect on the sales of this anime. Perhaps it is because it is animated too late, perhaps the initial routes are not as attractive to people who are not fans of the VN. It is still being watched by many but it has got less and less attention as time passes. It has done quite a lot of work to make sure it sticks close to the spirit of VN (choice of seiyuu, music, important elements of the VN story) but it seems some VN fans still find fault with the adaptation. The current predicted sales is kind of decent for a TV anime series (anything above 6k is) but definitely a disappointment for a franchise this famous. GuP - The Dark Horse of this season. The unexpected Cinderella success story that no one predicted when the season starts. It has gone from strength to strength with one episode after another that strikes many fans as awesome. The positive feedback and acclaim by fans in Japan is as universal as I have ever seen for some time. Originally it was expected to sell no more than 3k by fans in Japan with even the most optimistic predicting at most 5k. The line has been moving up ever since, and currently the range of prediction of its sales is 12k-18k for its first week and 15k-21k for final sales. The one thing to note is that a sales of >10k is considered a major hit for a midnight TV anime series, and GuP is now almost sure to make that. It is likely to be the top seller of this season's anime too (assuming Nekomonogatari is not counted, which is debatable). And all this despite all the production problems and delay of broadcast (with the final 2 episodes only coming out in March next year). A legend that will live in anime history. Sakurasou - One of the "air anime" this season. "Air anime" is used by Japanese fans to indicate anime that, regardless of its production quality or technical merits, fail to gather much attention to at least generate enough sales. "Air anime" is usually assumed to be struggling to get to a 3k sales line, a line that fans in Japan use to separate the "winner" and the "loser" for a sesaon's anime. There may be a lot of people watching it because of a pleasing character design or some interesting moments in the story but it is not really "loved" so much by fans to the extent that they will buy the BD/DVD. In Sakurasou's case it is not really a fully "Air" anime because at least I can see quite a number of blogs reviewing it. However, its prospect is hit by the firestorm caused by the change in the anime to switch a dish (cooked to feed Nanami when she was ill) from a simple Japanese dish in the LN to a Korean dish, which touched some raw nerves among anime fans in Japan who stirred up huge anti-Korean protests in internet and attacked the anime and its staff on the net. Of course it has the result of drawing attention to this anime (so that it is not as "air" as before) but the net result may not be beneficial to the sales of its BD. In Amazon the entries of the various volumes of the BD are filled with angry 1-star reviews. Actually this has happened before to Kokoro Connect in the last season (which also got a firestorm in internet because of some controversy), and what happened there does not bode well for Sakurasou. |
symbvDec 18, 2012 6:13 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 6:13 AM
#22
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: K. Season 2 when? please no, sequels most of the time just ruins the original |
Dec 18, 2012 6:15 AM
#23
j0x said: Actually I have a feeling that the writers of K develop the world of K deliberately to be so grand with that many characters so that there is room for multiple sequels, prequels and spinoffs that can happen in that world.Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: please no, sequels most of the time just ruins the originalK. Season 2 when? |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 6:21 AM
#24
symbv said: Limechan said: Let's check one by one:Is that good? I don't know much about sale values, so... LB!, GuP and Sakurasou are my favourite animes of this season, so I'd love to see them all selling well. LB! - Much lower than the initial expectation when the season starts. The strong franchise of the VN does not seem to have much effect on the sales of this anime. Perhaps it is because it is animated too late, perhaps the initial routes are not as attractive to people who are not fans of the VN. It is still being watched by many but it has got less and less attention as time passes. It has done quite a lot of work to make sure it sticks close to the spirit of VN (choice of seiyuu, music, important elements of the VN story) but it seems some VN fans still find fault with the adaptation. The current predicted sales is kind of decent for a TV anime series (anything above 6k is) but definitely a disappointment for a franchise this famous. GuP - The Dark Horse of this season. The unexpected Cinderella success story that no one predicted when the season starts. It has gone from strength to strength with one episode after another that strikes many fans as awesome. The positive feedback and acclaim by fans in Japan is as universal as I have ever seen for some time. Originally it was expected to sell no more than 3k by fans in Japan with even the most optimistic predicting at most 5k. The line has been moving up ever since, and currently the range of prediction of its sales is 12k-18k for its first week and 15k-21k for final sales. The one thing to note is that a sales of >10k is considered a major hit for a midnight TV anime series, and GuP is now almost sure to make that. It is likely to be the top seller of this season's anime too (assuming Nekomonogatari is not counted, which is debatable). And all this despite all the production problems and delay of broadcast (with the final 2 episodes only coming out in March next year). A legend that will live in anime history. Sakurasou - One of the "air anime" this season. "Air anime" is used by Japanese fans to indicate anime that, regardless of its production quality or technical merits, fail to gather much attention to at least generate enough sales. "Air anime" is usually assumed to be struggling to get to a 3k sales line, a line that fans in Japan use to separate the "winner" and the "loser" for a sesaon's anime. There may be a lot of people watching it because of a pleasing character design or some interesting moments in the story but it is not really "loved" so much by fans to the extent that they will buy the BD/DVD. In Sakurasou's case it is not really a fully "Air" anime because at least I can see quite a number of blogs reviewing it. However, its prospect is hit by the firestorm caused by the change in the anime to switch a dish (cooked to feed Nanami when she was ill) from a simple Japanese dish in the LN to a Korean dish, which touched some raw nerves among anime fans in Japan who stirred up huge anti-Korean protests in internet and attacked the anime and its staff on the net. Of course it has the result of drawing attention to this anime (so that it is not as "air" as before) but the net result may not be beneficial to the sales of its BD. In Amazon the entries of the various volumes of the BD are filled with angry 1-star reviews. Actually this has happened before to Kokoro Connect in the last season (which also got a firestorm in internet because of some controversy), and what happened there does not bode well for Sakurasou. I understand what happened with Kokoro Connect and all that, but this about Sakurasou is ridiculous! Ok, J.C. Staff could've sticked to the LN, but it's not something so offensive that deserves to make the anime's sales bad. |
Dec 18, 2012 6:27 AM
#25
Limechan said: I'd like to point out that, as I said, as an "Air Anime" it is predicted to be struggling at around a 3k line so it is not as if it was expected to sell well anyway. Any plus the anime will provide should come in via other channels, like boost to the LN sales. However, like Kokoro Connect, this already low expected sales may have been further hurt by the controversy, so the new line may be 2k or less. I understand what happened with Kokoro Connect and all that, but this about Sakurasou is ridiculous! Limechan said: Not sure about the reactions of fans in the west, who may indeed find the adaptation to be "offensive", but for fans in Japan it seems the complaint rests mainly on "not that interesting" rather than finding anything they did to be "offensive".Ok, J.C. Staff could've sticked to the LN, but it's not something so offensive that deserves to make the anime's sales bad. jmal said: In fact, Yaraon is considered to be one of the major anime sites to be contributing to the firestorm just by consistently reporting on the change and the reactions from the net. Oh god, is that why I kept seeing screenshots of the food on yaraon? |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 6:32 AM
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: K. Season 2 when? We have yet to see the green king and his green ways of ruling!!! |
Dec 18, 2012 6:37 AM
#27
jmal said: The problem I see is that while the xenophobic anime fans may be a minority, their number does not seem to be that small, at least in this particular case. And there are quite many who are usually reasonable but can get jumpy whenever Korea is mentioned (this is particularly noticeable in the many 1-star reviews written in Amazon). Really sad but all too true. The anti-Korean sentiment is particularly strong and strident among the male demography and there are some who wonder whether the fact that the director, the episode director (for the episode which got controversial) and the screenplay writer are all female may have been a factor.Limechan means the Korean thing, which shouldn't be offensive, but you've noted apparently was to a few xenophobic anime fans. Still, I'm going to assume it's one of those "annoying vocal minority" things, which the vast majority of controversies end up being. |
symbvDec 18, 2012 6:40 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 7:05 AM
#28
^ Just currious, does this kind of racism only apply to Korean ? What about other foreign country, if the dish was, for example, a Chinese food, would fan react the same way ? |
Dec 18, 2012 7:26 AM
#29
dreznovk said: Besides what jmal said, the funny thing is that precisely the same question was brought up in places like 2ch, and you know what is the most common answer I saw?^ Just currious, does this kind of racism only apply to Korean ? What about other foreign country, if the dish was, for example, a Chinese food, would fan react the same way ? "I love Chinese food so it's fine, but I don't like Chinese people." |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 7:47 AM
#30
jmal said: Korea seems to get special hatred, but China usually isn't far behind. Especially with the immature hysterics going on over a couple of rocks in the ocean right now. Well, my people are quite concern with those 'rock' though (mineral, critical position, national proud, some political stuff), that's why there have been some anti-china raging on the internet these days. Don't know who's right and wrong though, as i don't believe anything coming from communist government. symbv said: Besides what jmal said, the funny thing is that precisely the same question was brought up in places like 2ch, and you know what is the most common answer I saw? "I love Chinese food so it's fine, but I don't like Chinese people." I guess they just don't hate Chinese enough. What the deal between Japanese and Korean anyway, i though you guys were getting along. Back to the topic, any chance Hidamari Sketch will sell more than Stalker prediction ? What about previous seasons, how did it predict HS sales ? |
Dec 18, 2012 7:51 AM
#31
Someone wishing for K Season 2? Story must have gotten better... gotta catch up. And really, Sengoku Collection? |
Dec 18, 2012 7:51 AM
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Dec 18, 2012 7:59 AM
#33
dreznovk said: Don't really know, but many Japanese associate a lot of negative traits with Korean people and this has a long history, and the popularity of K-Pop and Korean TV dramas in recent years, as well as the rise of Korean economy (and brands) while Japanese economy is tanking, further adds to the sense of urgency among the xenophobic. What the deal between Japanese and Korean anyway, i though you guys were getting along. dreznovk said: Hidamari is considered to be a storefront-leaning type like Dog Days and Yuru Yuri, so the guess is that it will sell better than the figures predicted by the stalker. I do not have the old stalker data to tell you how well the stalker predicted the final sales of previous seasons. I guess jmal may be able to help here.Back to the topic, any chance Hidamari Sketch will sell more than Stalker prediction ? What about previous seasons, how did it predict HS sales ? |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 8:33 AM
#34
jmal said: symbv said: Hidamari is considered to be a storefront-leaning type like Dog Days and Yuru Yuri, so the guess is that it will sell better than the figures predicted by the stalker. I'm clinging to this hope, but I haven't seen it ranking at HMV or Animate or Softmap or Gamers. Can you provide links to those websites ? jmal said: Which means I worry about whether Honeycomb sells enough to get a fifth and presumably final season, because Vol. 1 has the event ticket application and Vols. 2+ can be expected to drop. Yeah, that's why i hope stalker underestimate Vol.1 sales. A drop from the ~7000k BD+DVD doesn't seem too good and 4 seasons are still not enough for me. Thanks for the info, jmal. |
Dec 18, 2012 8:37 AM
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Dec 18, 2012 8:43 AM
#36
Where the hell is Tonari kaibutsu? :< well, at least the song did well... |
Dec 18, 2012 10:40 AM
#37
jmal said: My take of the BDs that will rank next week. Not all may come up in the Tues list but they should appear on the Fri list.And for anyone wondering, yes next week is completely brutal and many releases won't rank at all especially when you consider all the mainstream Ghibli and Disney and Pixar parents will be buying for Christmas presents. GirlPan #1 Chu2byo #1 ToLoveRu Darkness #1 Psycho-Pass #1 Jormungand2 #1 Tiger & Bunny special edition Side Bunny Horizon2 #4 KuroBas #6 YuruYuri2 #4 Total Eclipse #4 Jintai #4 Cowboy Bepop BD Box Elfenlied BD Box MS Gundam Seed HD-remaster BD Box #4 Yukikaze BD Box Pokémon the Movie: Kyurem vs. the Sword of Justice |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 11:29 AM
#38
symbv said: I'm sad to hear this as Chuunibyou 11 was definitely the most powerful episode this season for me, maybe something in JoJo can come close, I'm behind with that series, other shows can't compare. Oh well, it's not like me not agreeing with Japan happened for the first time but I'm still disappointed that they're turning away from Chuuni after this episode, 04 would be much more understandable.Chuunibyou is being viewed less and less favorably by fans in Japan, and the latest episode (ep.11) has one of the worst feedbacks I have seen for KyoAni anime in the last 2 years. I know you consider ep.11 to be one of KyoAni's recent best but unfortunately it is the opposite case in Japan. The limited number of people who read the original novel hate it. Most of those who have not read the novels are uncomfortable with the delicate balancing act of comedy vs drama, and the various weight placed on different characters. There are a few who love the recent development but they are outnumbered by those who dislike it. The final episode may give solace to those who feel they are disappointed by what they've seen so far, but many already think even so it is too little too late to save this anime. Still the KyoAni brand is powerful and there seem to be sufficient people who still find the anime to their liking to keep it very competitive to be one of the top 4 sellers among this season's anime. |
ProgeuszDec 18, 2012 11:41 AM
Dec 18, 2012 12:12 PM
#39
jmal said: I would not underestimate the number of "some people" though. The reaction is pretty predominantly unfavorable, and I don't see it only in 2ch but also in blogs which in Japan are usually milder and more neutral. Admittedly the sales may not be budging much from a longer timespan perspective, but it is also clear the lack of boost of ep.11 is a reflection of the lack of enthusiasm for that episode. The strength shown by Chuunibyou could also be explained by the residential appeal of the anime, like the characters or the sakuga. Given the mood of the series is quite different for the late part compared to the early part of the series, a better gauge may be to see how much, if any, of drop of sales are we seeing for the later volumes compared to the early volumes of the series.It remains to be seen whether some people complaining on 2ch actually amounts to anything, though. |
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 18, 2012 12:17 PM
#40
Yvese said: This week was meh. Next week is the moment of truth. Been waiting for this day since the start of the season! I know right! :D |
Dec 18, 2012 12:33 PM
#41
i need to watch berserk 2nd movie and detective conan 16th movie |
Dec 18, 2012 2:06 PM
#42
The calm before the storm. |
The release of atomic energy has not created a new problem. It has merely made more urgent the necessity of solving an existing one. - Albert Einstein |
Dec 18, 2012 2:42 PM
#43
Dec 18, 2012 2:50 PM
#44
Ghibli movies always take the slow weeks it seems. And Sengoku Collection does better than I expected with this being a slow week. But yeah, stuff is gonna get interesting next week. |
I probably regret this post by now. |
Dec 18, 2012 4:21 PM
#45
jmal said: Yes, it's above the rest but it hasn't moved up by much. I expected bigger jump after revolutionary episode 11 but we got mere 38-45 -> 34 and even that lasted just few hours and fell to 35-49. Recent bump due to release date got it to 30 max too. I can only hope final episode will change the feelings of Japanese otaku and make them buy the show. symbv dealt a rather crushing blow... #2 (and it's definitely not sure either) of the season sounds pretty nice but I'd like higher sales than those predicted. Do you have any estimation on how big HMV is compared to amazon when it comes to anime sales?It remains to be seen whether some people complaining on 2ch actually amounts to anything, though. While it hasn't shot up the way I would have liked for release week, it's still beating everything from Fall except GirlPan (and Gintama if you do cumulative points). The only anime that have been ahead of it consistently the past week or two are Nekomogatari, GirlPan, Ookami Kodomo, and the KuroBas fandisc - all totally expected. Jojo was ahead of it for a few hours here and there on the strength of a strong episode I assume, but now it and Darkness and Chuunibyou are running pretty close together. And Chuunibyou is still dominating HMV. The long term ranking history also continues to show consistency so I'm not yet convinced this is a big deal. Looks like DVD+BD combined Stalker points just passed 10k in the last day or so too. |
Dec 19, 2012 4:09 AM
#46
One thing I want to add is that Chuunibyou will definitely sell well in absolute numbers - meaning 10k or more, the line of a major hit. Whatever complaints there are for ep.11 are not going to cause a collapse of support or sales. However, it is also true that since the anime took a sharp turn to a serious drama mode, the momentum of the anime has stalled and the camp of detractors has grown with time (and I want to stress that it does not only have to do with the turn to seriousness). Yet it is not an "Air Anime", which unfortunately is the fate inflicting its predecessor Nichijou (despite the KyoAni brand and its magic of cool sakuga and moe trickery). It is clear that the anime still retains enough elements to keep a sizable of fans fascinated - amazing sakuga, mesmerizing music, very endearing characters like Molly Summer, Rikka and Kumin. So the question may be more like 1) Could it have done even better in sales? (and the conventional wisdom seems that it could have) 2) Are we going to see a sharper drop of sales for the later volumes? Possible but a lot can still depend on how the series end. The director mentioned earlier in interview that the ending is "the most beautiful I have directed" and since the director (Ishihara) directed anime like Haruhi, Air, both Clannad and Kanon, a lot of fans place high hopes on an ending that is so awesome that it will change the opinion of this series for many people. |
symbvDec 19, 2012 4:13 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 19, 2012 5:44 AM
#47
jmal said: Well, after the Nichijou fiasco, I would not even say that. As you said, there has been slight progress on the expectation game after Nichijou. Yet, it is also true that people still expect really high sales for KyoAni anime -- just take a look at the guesses made for the coming KyoAni series in Winter season: almost nobody is predicting anything less than 9k, and it is an original anime. I'd settle for "everything KyoAni must be a solid seller" maybe, i.e. I would agree that anything below 5 or 6k might be disappointing with their frame count and brand recognition. Yet the point I tried to make is slightly different. The thinking that Chuunibyou could have done even better in sales is based on what if the perception stayed mostly favorable in the later part of the series as it did in the early episodes. So it is not like it is only because of KyoAni that people are saying it and "nobody would have assumed so if a different studio were doing it". The thinking can show up for any anime done by any studio if it seems to hold promise of good popularity at early episodes but get stalled in later episodes (we can even say this to anime like Little Busters!). The only difference is that for KyoAni the line is set a bit higher. I still remember when we were a few episodes into the series, it was widely predicted that the final stalker BD points would be >10000 and few thought such view was unreasonable or skewed, but now the final stalker BD points are stuck at just a bit above 8500. So I can see why a lot of people think that the series could have done better in terms of sales compared to the expectation at the early stage of the series. |
symbvDec 19, 2012 6:01 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Dec 19, 2012 9:40 AM
#48
Dec 19, 2012 12:25 PM
#49
I gotta say I'm hoping that Episode 11 hurts the Chuunibyou sales. I absolutely loved the series before that, my favorite of the season... and then they had to make one of the worst attempts at forced drama ever, and go against everything that was good in the series. It fell out of my top 3 after that episode and I'm a bit spiteful about it. I cancelled my preorder (I was only gonna get that and GuP) and changed it to Little Busters afterwards. To me, if it sells well after that joke of an episode, it'll just tell KyoAni its okay to make stuff like that. I absolutely don't want them to do another like it in the future. |
RyanSaotomeDec 19, 2012 12:29 PM
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Dec 19, 2012 1:14 PM
#50
jmal said: Not surprising given the incredibly positive reaction the final episode got. I've seen "Godly episode" on a couple of blogs.In any case it's rising after the final episode, with Vol. 1 now up to 28th from ~40 before airing, and most of the volumes are back in the top 100 too, so yay. What I'm curious about is the delays HMV is having in shipping out some orders. I've seen a few people complain that an order is stuck in the equivalent of "shipping soon" for days (the Nichijou DVD-Box took 5 days for me last week and my copy of BD v1 is still in it since Monday afternoon EST). They won't charge anyone until it ships, so we might see consistency in daily sales due to that if they won't count it as a sale until it's charged. |
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