jmal said: Well if you're going to convert an anime movie into a live action movie, this would be one of the easier ones, in the sense that it's certainly a sort of story that's been told through live action many times. I won't be interested in watching it myself, but I certainly don't think it's strange, whereas many other anime or video game to film adaptations just strike me as incredibly ill-conceived ideas.
^ This. I think that this could be adapted very well since there doesn't have to be many SFX compared to other anime. I'm just not sure that the live-action would have the same impact as the anime movie.
Knowing western producers, it'll most likely have an all Caucasian cast, set in some alternate history American city where America lost World War 2, just so it makes sense that they're all white.
THAT, or they'll be white actors with yellow-face make-up.
Of course it's gonna have an all-white cast, film producers are a bunch of shameless racists. But since I don't watch live action anyway, I don't really care much. Grave of the Fireflies is one of my most favourite animated films of all time, but these guys are just going to ruin the story, so why care.
While I didn't exactly expect a universal approval or enthusiasm for this live action adaptation, I'm still surprised at how negatively most of the people here have reacted to these news.
I don't know much about Dresden Pictures, but they seem to be a more "artistic" studio rather than one focused on making low-brow cash-cow blockbusters. But it doesn't matter so much which studio is adapting the original work, since it is also possible some other studio might bump in and either buy the rights from Dresden Pictures outright, or collaborate with them to make the final product.
What strikes me the most, thought, about the reactions here is the almost instinctive knee-jerk reaction to the mere thought of a Western studio adapting an anime into a live-action movie. While it is somewhat understandable, seeing as the adaptations of DBZ and Avatar were spectacular failures, the anime fans seem to have lost all perspective when it comes to adaptations.
First of all, Grave of the Fireflies is a very different kind of story compared to the long-running franchises like Dragonball and Avatar. It's a short and complete story that is easy to adapt, as opposed to working through hundreds of episodes of DBZ in an attempt to create a script for a singular story.
Secondly, many here want them to retain the setting and cast only Asians, which is a complete nonsense. First of all, there's already a live action Japanese adaptation of "Grave of the Fireflies", so to make the same story with Asian actors using the "Western money" is a no brainer and completely pointless.
Story of the original movie is strongly linked to the destruction of WW2, and I don't know if you guys are aware of this, the WW2 wasn't fought only in Asia/Pacific, but also in Europe. Therefore, the studio can easily change the setting from Japan to the UK during the Blitz or devastated and ruined Germany in the end and the direct aftermath of the war. Nothing of the content of the original movie would be lost and the movie would be much more familiar to the European audiences. Frankly, I find it absurd that some people think it is a sacrilege to change the setting or cast Caucasian actors. Granted, there are anime that are so quintessentially Japanese that any sort of adaptation for the Western audiences would be rather pointless because a huge portion of the original content would be lost in localization. But Grave of the Fireflies is not one of those anime, and I'm actually looking forward to seeing this movie made.
name93 said: Story of the original movie is strongly linked to the destruction of WW2, and I don't know if you guys are aware of this, the WW2 wasn't fought only in Asia/Pacific, but also in Europe. Therefore, the studio can easily change the setting from Japan to the UK during the Blitz or devastated and ruined Germany in the end and the direct aftermath of the war. Nothing of the content of the original movie would be lost and the movie would be much more familiar to the European audiences. Frankly, I find it absurd that some people think it is a sacrilege to change the setting or cast Caucasian actors. Granted, there are anime that are so quintessentially Japanese that any sort of adaptation for the Western audiences would be rather pointless because a huge portion of the original content would be lost in localization. But Grave of the Fireflies is not one of those anime, and I'm actually looking forward to seeing this movie made.
I don't know if I'd agree with that. I think the WW2 the Japanese experienced was very different from the WW2 Europeans or Americans experienced. It wouldn't make much sense to have a movie about the holocaust set in Japan, would it? Meanwhile Japan is the only country to have ever been a victim of nuclear warfare, an "honor" that I feel should not be appropriated. Granted, this particular movie does not focus on the nuclear bombings directly, but it is still an experience that is tied more to Japan and the Japanese people than one may initially think. If Grave of the Fireflies was purely fictional then I wouldn't really care, but seeing as how it is not only explicitly set in WW2 but also semi-autobiographical on the author's part, giving the setting a complete overhaul would not only make little sense to me, it also seems like a plain insensitive thing to do.
While I didn't exactly expect a universal approval or enthusiasm for this live action adaptation, I'm still surprised at how negatively most of the people here have reacted to these news.
I don't know much about Dresden Pictures, but they seem to be a more "artistic" studio rather than one focused on making low-brow cash-cow blockbusters. But it doesn't matter so much which studio is adapting the original work, since it is also possible some other studio might bump in and either buy the rights from Dresden Pictures outright, or collaborate with them to make the final product.
What strikes me the most, thought, about the reactions here is the almost instinctive knee-jerk reaction to the mere thought of a Western studio adapting an anime into a live-action movie. While it is somewhat understandable, seeing as the adaptations of DBZ and Avatar were spectacular failures, the anime fans seem to have lost all perspective when it comes to adaptations.
First of all, Grave of the Fireflies is a very different kind of story compared to the long-running franchises like Dragonball and Avatar. It's a short and complete story that is easy to adapt, as opposed to working through hundreds of episodes of DBZ in an attempt to create a script for a singular story.
Secondly, many here want them to retain the setting and cast only Asians, which is a complete nonsense. First of all, there's already a live action Japanese adaptation of "Grave of the Fireflies", so to make the same story with Asian actors using the "Western money" is a no brainer and completely pointless.
Story of the original movie is strongly linked to the destruction of WW2, and I don't know if you guys are aware of this, the WW2 wasn't fought only in Asia/Pacific, but also in Europe. Therefore, the studio can easily change the setting from Japan to the UK during the Blitz or devastated and ruined Germany in the end and the direct aftermath of the war. Nothing of the content of the original movie would be lost and the movie would be much more familiar to the European audiences. Frankly, I find it absurd that some people think it is a sacrilege to change the setting or cast Caucasian actors. Granted, there are anime that are so quintessentially Japanese that any sort of adaptation for the Western audiences would be rather pointless because a huge portion of the original content would be lost in localization. But Grave of the Fireflies is not one of those anime, and I'm actually looking forward to seeing this movie made.
Agreed. What's with the extreme pessimistic or even sometimes hostile view towards anything western (most of the time American)? I don't look at other countries and automatically think they are going to ruin anything they get their hands on. You guys need to be careful what you say because I've seen some borderline racist comments here from time to time.
wingless said: I don't know if I'd agree with that. I think the WW2 the Japanese experienced was very different from the WW2 Europeans or Americans experienced. It wouldn't make much sense to have a movie about the holocaust set in Japan, would it? Meanwhile Japan is the only country to have ever been a victim of nuclear warfare, an "honor" that I feel should not be appropriated. Granted, this particular movie does not focus on the nuclear bombings directly, but it is still an experience that is tied more to Japan and the Japanese people than one may initially think. If Grave of the Fireflies was purely fictional then I wouldn't really care, but seeing as how it is not only explicitly set in WW2 but also semi-autobiographical on the author's part, giving the setting a complete overhaul would not only make little sense to me, it also seems like a plain insensitive thing to do.
The experiences of Germans, Russians and even British weren't that different from the experiences of the Japanese. Destruction of their cities, rations, police hours, and in the German case, refusal to surrender until the bitter end.
And as you pointed out, the original movie doesn't focus on the use of the A-bombs, which were Japan-exclusive, so the difference in setting would have minimal impact on the overall plot, character development and themes of the Western adaptation.
As for the "insensitivity" of hijacking someone's tragic personal story to use it as a vehicle to suit your own agenda, let me point you to this interesting review of the "Grave of the fireflies":
As you can see in the review ( and if you've maybe read the original novel you'd know it already ), the anime adaptation of the novel also took some liberties and skewed the messages and meaning of the original story, so whatever the Dresden Pictures decide to change, the precedent has been already done. Or maybe changing the original story is OK for the Japanese anime directors but strictly forbidden for the Westerners?
Besides, I don't see a problem in them taking the basic concept and the idea of the original story and change it slightly to make it more relevant to the modern ( Western ) audiences, as long as it's good. Movies such as "V for Vendetta" show us that it is not imperative for a movie to be a 100% faithful adaptation of the original material; what matters the most that the movie is good in its own right.
Guys. Japan already tried and failed at making a live action adaption of GoTF.
Both Takahata (director of the anime version) and the dude who actually WROTE the "Grave of the Fireflies" autobiography (Akiyuki Nosaka) apparently agreed that this story was better suited for animation.
Animation kicked live action's ass here and some people just don't get it/accept it. How about making a movie about YOUR particular experiences in the war, UK? It's not like there's a lack of material. Actually, make it even better. Make it as an animation.
I laugh at some of these comments. It's by a newly-founded, niche UK company. Are they going to try to use huge special effects? No. Will it be set in America? No, and if they did then I'd love to find out how they would.
If anything, this has a chance of actually being made and actually being very good, because with all these reasons they will go close to the source material as it won't involve many special effects or a big budget. As long as it has good actors than this'll be really good.
Not all movies need to be knocked down immediately. Akira did. This doesn't.