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| Here are my thoughts: What The Fuck That is all. |
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| I don't think the ending was all that bad |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| Just wow yea lets just leave this chat at this cuz the best part of this show was the fact that Eureka 7 was the prequel. |
the_trainman said:  MASTER PIC DEFINITELY :D GREAT FIND LMAO also how the fuck Ao knew how to use the board? even Renton had problems with reffing :D Besides, if he erased scub coral then not eureka nor him would exist in first place. He should have disappeared. |
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nanamichan212 said: My thoughts exactly! Ao is a moron, he forgot he killed all trapar with the magic gun.... Then jumped out of Nirvash and midway in the air "Oh crap". Happy music, cut to credits. |
| I shall know no fear as I am fear incarnated |
| i was pretending to watch this while playing minesweeper. |
| if we die we'll meet again in valhalla... |
| yay its finally over now to wait for it along with Aquarion EVOL, AGE and hopefully Unicorn and EVA RB to appear in the next SRW Z can see that E7 AO dimension/parallel worlds/time travel mind fuck would fit in also even tho memories of Ao have been wipe out i like to think that that it still lingers within his friends like Maggie when approached her old mech she see small glimpse of her memories before the quarts gun was shot the first time if i remember correctly |
Brigs77Nov 20, 2012 2:57 PM
| I really don't knot what people are complaining about. I was crying in the last episode, from the moment I heard "Niji" in the background... That was so perfect, I never thought this gonna happen ;___; I didn't understand everything about the ending, but I don't care. All those scenes with Eureka, Renton and Ao was better that I've imagined. Of course, first series was hundred times better, but... I got what I wanted. I LOVED IT. |
Lolitha said: the_trainman said: MASTER PIC DEFINITELY :D GREAT FIND LMAO also how the fuck Ao knew how to use the board? even Renton had problems with reffing :D Besides, if he erased scub coral then not eureka nor him would exist in first place. He should have disappeared. I liked the characters, hated the convoluted mess of a plot, but I loved the ending. One of the few instances that time travel actually FIXES a timeline. It doesn't even make sense, but I don't care lol, that's the ending. Also I'm glad everyone else caught the whole board no trappers thing. Mind you Eureka survived a crazy free-fall the first time, and it didn't even cause any complications with her pregnancy lol. Hell if I was made of whatever Eueraka and Ao was made of, I'd do it too. |
kitsuko said: It was really terrible, really the only part i liked about this ramdomized forcefuly plot twisted end, was the part of the "fight" renton vs ao and that was solely because of this dialog: Renton: "¡The original is enough!" Ao: ¿What the hell? ¡¿Says who?! When i heard that i just coulndn't stop my laugh ^^ OMG that is the best line ever, can't believe I missed that!!! |
| I don't really know what to say... really. Well, it's kind of sad that Ao became an unexistant person but well, Eureka and Renton are now together. But there is nothing really clear. I felt it missed soemthing. But it's not like I don't like Eureka seven Ao, but I won't and don't really want to consider it as a sequel. I'm not thinking too deep for the details but it's just that my mind is all messed up right now. |
| They made feel so bad after seeing what they done with Eureka Seven. AO is so bad. |
| Welp. Atleast this sequel didn't have shitty drama and irritating characters for half of its running time. 5/10 |
| Just finished it! I actually quite liked the ending. A lot of people complained about how there wasn't any love really in the show as opposed to the original, I'm glad these last two episodes helped dispel that notion. It's still about love, its just an entirely different type of love. Its not romantic love, its parental love. They wanted their child to be happy so badly that they went back in time to a safer time period. It ended up messing up the timelines, but it worked out because their son was able to grow up. They may separated but at least they were able to be together, for a short while. It's certainly a bittersweet ending, which I'm a sucker for anyway, but I thought it was pretty good for only having a few episodes to wrap it up in. Renton and Eureka are still together, they can still have children in the future since the time line has been repaired. They should still be in the original series universe unless I misinterpreted it. Ao's back in his world and everything progressed quite nicely. I choose to believe that they remembered him, but if not it allows him to make amends for all of the mistakes in made in his relationship with Naru. It was certainly an enjoyable series, not perfect. It should have been longer, they would have had more time to develop the characters a bit more, and correct the pacing. But, I think everything worked out well. Eureka and Renton's sacrifice wasn't in vain. Ao can now live a happy, relatively normal life. And that's exactly what they wanted for him. All in All I liked it. |
| It is bad. Really bad. Meaningless, rushed and simply stupid. Many may say that it is easy to criticize. It is true. But this show really should never happen. I want to say a lot of bad things to the storywriter but... All this is useless. I'm upset. P.S. Never watch this show, if you have watched the original E7. |
| Deus ex machina ending? Awesome animation with the mecha fights. |
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 Says everyone AO. |
 "I always take life with a grain of salt, ...plus a slice of lemon, ...and a shot of tequila." |
| So many thoughts right now. Don't know how to grade this. I think this series would have worked better if they had made this story outside the Eureka Seven universe. They tried to be too clever with the time travel thing and it backfired. And the characters are not as charming or endearing as in the original series. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Meh.. not sure what to say, was hoping for more I guess. At least the music was good and I liked seeing Renton and Eureka again. I just wish they wouldn't have had all this time travel and alternate dimension crap and just stuck with the original E7 timeline. I'm not sure why Bones thought it would be a good idea to make everything such a big mindfuck. I guess they just went full retard? All in all I didn't hate the series but it was a big disappointment compared to the original. |
| This series should have never existed, the original was more than enough, well at least on the bright side in ways it may as well not have existed, only good thing to come out of this, if it can even be called a good thing that is, considering it wasted 24 episodes of nothing. |
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| One of the many silly things that make no sense. This did catch my mind as I watched the end... I was like.... how is he supposed to land without dieing?? Alongside the "how'd Ao survive for such a long time in a broken down cockpit". At the end of Eureka Seven yeah Eureka and Renton fall, but at least Eureka had wings, we can at least pretend she was able to use them as they came to the ground. |
Nobu-chan said: That's kind of the problem... they were the only highlights in the show, and in many ways their presence in the series is only used to distract fans from the fact that the AO series was extremely convoluted....I didn't understand everything about the ending, but I don't care. All those scenes with Eureka, Renton and Ao was better that I've imagined.. I admit I got caught up in the excitement of seeing Eureka and Renton again, but that only emphasizes just how bad the the rest of the cast in this series pales by comparison. Additionally it bothered me that they were trying to get me not to notice all the dumb things they were doing.... to get me excited for nothing. Mind you the reason I didn't take to it that well is because of how they characterized them in the series... it completely contrasts the original Eureka Seven. |
InfiniteDestiny said: This series should have never existed, but it did deal with it |
AidanAK47 said: [img]http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49/AidanAK47/gg_EUREKA_SEVEN_AO_-_24_845386EAmkv_20121120_212557029.jpg[img] Says everyone AO. what about the E7 movie? |
Nobu-chan said: That's the sad thing. Pretty much hit the nail on the head. I wanted to love this series, the first 3 episodes were amazing, just meeting Ao and these new characters, and all I could think about was how Ao would bond with them. Share experiences with Gazelle, or Naru, or even Ivica. But as the show progressed past the first group of episodes they became almost formulaic. Typical Ao Episode; - Open with characters living their life, have empty, meaningless, vague dialogue - reveal a key detail, things like quartz, Ao's vision, Generation Blue secrets, ect. - More Character interaction, usually talking about personal angsty issues - Close out the episode by defeating a Secret The funny thing was I thought all this was going to change after episode 13 and 14 with Eureka. That the world would've changed, but hell there's still several episodes that follow this formula. At the end of the day each episode became redundant... but BONES still managed to get me hyped up with these super hype moments. Namely episodes 13/14 and then hype for episodes 23/24. Everything between 13/14 is extremely pointless.... with the only exciting moment being the discovery of the Quartz Gun. |
| Finished... at least... the insert song was enjoyable... needs to find a mp3. |
| Bones you fucked up.... |
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| I guess figured out why this show ended like this - storywriter watched "Steins; Gate" too much. |
| I feel so bad for Ao and rest that I would make a sequel for this just to make it straight. And I would start it like this: Ao is falling down, realising that he can't use the trapar bord because there is no trapar thingy in this world. He starts panicking and his life starts flashing before his eyes. He screems in despair, but calms down as he realises that either way he has nothing to live for. He is all alone in the world that he is an alien. He thinks of his mom and how much he mised her all his life and never had a chance to have a normal life in a normal world. He cries out his last words in wich he says how much he wanted to embrace his mother one more time, and closes his eyes as he is about to fall into the water... But he doesn't. He opens his eyes and realises that he is floating just a couple of meters above the sea. On his back were wings which looked the same as his Eureka's on the turning point in time. He smiles through tears and says "You saved me, even if you are not here Eureka", and loses his consciousness. He awakes and sees Naru who is tending him in her house. He jumps up and calls her by her name and then they start a conversation from which he concludes that he newer was born on this island and that there was no scub coral crisis in this world, but some things are still odd (like stories of sighthings of a huge asteroid and beam of light which took the asteroid whit it). Naru is confused, and thinks that Ao's head is messed up from beeing nearly drown and drifted to shore where she founded him. She goes out to tell others from her house that he has awaken. Ao shakes his head trying to clear his mind and gets out couple of seconds after her and tells her and the people who were there that his memories are a bit messed up, and that he has to go somewhere on the island that he think he remembers. Naru agrees to let him go only if he allows her to go with him and after a short angumet he says yes. They take a walk around the island and he realises that there are small diferences from his originall hometown, but it is basicly the same place with same people. They finally end up at the place where the scub coral plant would be in paralel universe. In this universe it was just as it was befor the coral scub crisis. He smiles as he realises that this is really the world in which the scubs and the secrets are just pieces of his memories. He seems happy as he just stands there, smiling and looking blank at something what is not there. He looks up in the sky and silently says "I'm going to miss you all", thinking about the people he shared his life with in the paralel world. Naru which was next to him thinks that he said something to her and says "Hum? You said something?", to which he answers smiling with "Nothing... Let's go back to your place.". She nods in agreement and they turn around heading back to where they came from. Sudendly after they made a couple of steps, a recognisable voice spoke from the place they were standing just a couple of seconds ago saying "Somehow, I knew that I will find you here Ao...". Ao seems to petrified in the position he got himself in when he heard the voice. His face is shown pale, mouth slightly open, and eyes bulging in horror. The camera tilts to side revealing menacing silhouette of a young man. "What are the odds..." the voice says and starts to laugh in a grotesqe and sad way, and for the episode epilogue it is revealed that the mysterious voice is Truth in his evil humanoid form. And that would be it for the first episode. I would colour the theme of the episode with bright and relaxing soundtrack and culminate it with an epic choir on the ending when the Truth shows up. For the next episode I would show the stories of the other world, in which Ao jumped in in the polar light, which is showed to be unchanged, which bothers the crew of the Paid Piper and the rest. Fleur and Elena are desperate, trying to accept the fact that Eo is gone. Time is passing and everything is starting to return to 'usual' in that world. There are no more scub coral incidents, no more secrets showings and the rest of the scub corals are beeing destroyed by the Generation Blue. On the end of the episode the pole light is shown turnig red and emitting blinding crimson light, which than explodes and creates enormus red pillar. I would further expand the original plot from Eureka 7 Ao and twist it so that it gets much darker and epic. Truth would become Deception after learnig the full truth about the Scub and the Secrets searching worlds for the Arbiter (entity which is the actual creator of secrets and the gardian of existence and the Knowing) he met after shoting him self with the quartz gun. Ao would return to his friends (possible lovers) and the story about his parrents would be disturbed never again. Ao would now be clasified as Eror, as he should't exsist and with those infected by Scub which started to mutate would be constantly pursued by Cleaners, badass successors of Secrets, which are making even bigger mess than their predecessors. And I know... I'm boring. My grammar is horrible. My imagination sucks... Screw you :D |
| Art should be left alone by those unenlightened, raw and uncensored as it is, because enough refinement was already done by it's creator, in it's creation. |
AidanAK47 said: Says everyone AO. This pretty much sums up this entire series. |
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SpiritxGun36 said: This is discussed in the original E7 anime. And i was wondering who was the one to tell Eureka she was selfish to love Renton...i was like wtf. I knew i wasn't going to get an explanation on what happened to the old e7 characters and i had low expectations coming into the episode so I give it a 7/10. Very generous. There are various instances where Eureka struggles from guilt, because of the actions she's committed in the past, and a sense of responsibility she has from those actions. For example Ray who blamed Eureka for being barren, and was upset that her adopted children called her mother.... so basically when she's talking about people saying it was selfish of her to want children, that's what she is referring to. Also there is another point where she talks about the guilt of being happy.... she basically self hates because she knows she's ruined and ended other peoples lives, and believes because of this for, her to enjoy being with Renton, and having that happiness with him, she in turn feels selfish cause she believes she doesn't deserve it.... the fact that she could be so happy despite having made so many others unhappy. So it isn't directly explained in E7 Ao (which is unfortunate because for those who aren't as familiar with the series, that statement could be lost)... not even a small flash back to those characters... which owuld've been again another nice connector. |
| Finally saw the final two episodes. And, I gotta say... that was bold. Surprisingly, they wrapped up far more plot-points than I was expecting, but still, think there was lost potential here; it also felt way too abrupt as an ending. I enjoyed it greatly, nonetheless, even though the series as a whole is a mixed bag. I'd give the series a 7.4, but it'll have to settle for a 7.0 on my list. A month ago, I would have been very tempted to write a review for this series, but at this point, much of my interest in it has passed - given that these last two episodes seem to be flame-bait (unsurprisingly), I think I'll refrain from extensive discussion on this one. I still think the series is fairly underrated, but can understand the hard criticisms it's getting. And despite that, it still could have been a lot better, in my book; it definitely took a direction I would not have preferred, but I can live with it. |
DangerrNov 20, 2012 4:57 PM
| i wasn't expecting this... so was there a point to any of this?. |
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ioi70 said: A lot better than I was expecting, so glad Renton and Eureka survived it and were reunited. Also the fight between Renton and Ao was great as well as Truth becoming the Nirvash's archetype actually made him likable, pity they didn't put it in earlier. Oh and the use of the Eureka Seven climax song was fantastic. Bad points, climax was rushed way too much, it basically just came off as one huge info dump when it really needed a lengthier exposition. Also the canon cannon got used way too much. Honestly though looking back it was probably the only way to end it. Still it felt like a bit of a cheap shot considering everything that happened in the series. Also felt they fucked up with Naru again. But overall for what it was, it was good. You've basically summarized my sentiments on the episode(s) exactly. katsu044 said: i wasn't expecting this... so was there a point to any of this?. That there was a story to be told; never mind the paradoxes and time-fuckery involved. |
DangerrNov 20, 2012 4:56 PM
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