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Oct 13, 2012 8:15 AM

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Not sure if want. I'll follow the same road as Nanoha and become something weird, although with less fanservice.
Oct 13, 2012 8:29 AM

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More Madoka?

Best anime news of this year.
Oct 13, 2012 8:45 AM

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Why Shaft ?! Why should they continue this ultra profitable series to make more money ?! It's not like they're BUSINESS company or something !

Seriously, you people can complain about 'milking' all you want if it turn out to be horrible (i'll join you guys as well if that happen). For now, i'm just going to enjoy the fact that i can see more of my favorite show.
Oct 13, 2012 9:26 AM

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I guess Madoka will be alive for a long time...
Oct 13, 2012 10:04 AM

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Keep milking I guess.
I probably regret this post by now.
Oct 13, 2012 12:31 PM

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I'll obviously watch it, but neggghhheehhhhh. We really don't need a Madoka continuation. Although Kazumi/Oriko Magica would be cool to watch. Can somebody tell me which is better?
Oct 13, 2012 12:37 PM
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Omniknight said:
The fact that you judge the anime before you even watched it makes your opinion completely invalid.


I know better than to go by people's lists, but since I don't see One Piece or Naruto in your dropped list, I have to wonder if you've seen more than a single episode of either.

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You won't like this anime because it requires thinking and appreciation of thematic elements. The characters in this anime have emotions and motives behind their struggles, unlike the poor characterization seen in One Piece and Naruto.


1 ) It only requires thinking if you're too busy freaking out over the shock value that gets stuffed down our throats every other episode, and of course faulty writing like the whole entropy thing. The plot's pretty simple when it's not mindscrewing the audience with sloppy characterization and false advertising.

2 ) I don't think you should be criticizing other people's favorite shows about poor characterization when the poster girl for your profile page has no character outside of an irrational and desperate devotion to a girl she met one month ago.

and speaking of bad characterization...
Oct 13, 2012 12:49 PM
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As long as effort is put into the new project, and it actually has an interesting story, i'll watch it. Kazumi manga is still ongoing though. I have no idea how close it might be to a conclusion, since i'm avoiding it until it's completed and I can read it all at once. I've read Oriko, and that was a really good short manga. I'd like to see it adapted.

I don't expect any new project to be as good as the original, because it was flat out amazing. As long as it comes as close has possible to that level without screwing up pre-established elements to the series, i'll be happy.
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Oct 13, 2012 1:09 PM
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C'mon. What else is there?

The ending was pretty damn bleak/depressing, but it was conclusive.

It's the new Code Geass!
Oct 13, 2012 1:28 PM

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RLinksoul said:
Omniknight said:
The fact that you judge the anime before you even watched it makes your opinion completely invalid.


I know better than to go by people's lists, but since I don't see One Piece or Naruto in your dropped list, I have to wonder if you've seen more than a single episode of either.

Omniknight said:
You won't like this anime because it requires thinking and appreciation of thematic elements. The characters in this anime have emotions and motives behind their struggles, unlike the poor characterization seen in One Piece and Naruto.


1 ) It only requires thinking if you're too busy freaking out over the shock value that gets stuffed down our throats every other episode, and of course faulty writing like the whole entropy thing. The plot's pretty simple when it's not mindscrewing the audience with sloppy characterization and false advertising.

2 ) I don't think you should be criticizing other people's favorite shows about poor characterization when the poster girl for your profile page has no character outside of an irrational and desperate devotion to a girl she met one month ago.

and speaking of bad characterization...


There is a ton of symbolism, imagery and forshadowing in this anime if you were attentive enough to pay attention to the small details.
The references to Faust, the imagery of the unicorn and mermaid for Kyoko and Sayaka (referencing other stories from the past), Kyoko's and Sayaka's shadow imposing on the church murals foreshadowing Sayaka will kill Kyoko, the witch's domain based on the person's past... The list goes on.
The anime was great because it left you with questions each episode. The next episode, some would be answered and another set of questions would be left to us to wonder about. The ending wrapped things up nicely with only a few small details that were left unanswered.

The entropy thing I admit is a little loose (because time travel breaks the 2nd law of thermodynamics), but really, it's outlandish reasoning is secondary to the fact that Kyuubey's motive in ultimately a good one. This is the key message: Kyuubey is not your typical villain that wants to destroy the world. He is the ultimate utilitarian, sacrificing the few for the good of the many.

On the topic of characterization, may I name the types of events that she went through before finding the confidence and willpower to bring about her wish: Mami's beheading, her friend falling from grace and turning into a witch, Kyoko's sacrifice and her wish to save Sayaka, Homura revealing her true motives and nature, Kyuubey showing Madoka ultimately what magical girls have done for humanity and the sacrifices that they had to go through. If this isn't enough to chance someone's character, please tell me what will. Your "wet blanket to completely confident moment" is due to her realization that she can do something. It was an impulsive thought. Right before you know your friend is about to die, even if you are scared to death, is it unimaginable that you would find the courage to fight? Did you complain when Simon suddenly got the balls to save Kamina from Viral in Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann?

You also totally forgot about the characterization behind Sayaka (tragic hero) and Homura's story (the desperation behind trying and trying, yet failing each time to reach your goal). Mami's characterization is probably the weakest if you want to complain about something.

Trust me, my friends shove One Piece and Naruto down my throat. I don't watch the anime because I ave the manga being read to me all the time. It can be entertaining, but it's certainly nothing noteworthy and it definitely does not require your brain to be on. It's not so much I don't like One Piece and Naruto. It's more that there's a portion of people with this "brainless" mentality posting idiotic things like commenting on things they have never seen.
I can see you are basically doing the same thing. At least you tried to provide an example of "sloppy" characterization, albeit a very poor one.

I would also love if you could share the great characterization that is found in One Piece and Naruto. I hope you will amuse me.

Also for your information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder
Sorry, Madoka doesn't qualify for bipolar disorder under the DSM.
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RLinksoul said:
Omniknight said:
The fact that you judge the anime before you even watched it makes your opinion completely invalid.


I know better than to go by people's lists, but since I don't see One Piece or Naruto in your dropped list, I have to wonder if you've seen more than a single episode of either.

And you are clearly an expert on Naruto and One Piece, since you've seen....less than 20 episodes of each series.
Oct 13, 2012 2:39 PM

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No... just no. Please.
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Oct 13, 2012 3:21 PM

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This thread is creating much entropy.

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Oct 13, 2012 4:56 PM
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I hope this news will come true when I come back from RTC! >_<
Oct 13, 2012 5:37 PM

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Not surprised. Concept is interesting, and you self-insert characters in it's pre-Madoka universe and the After-Reconstruction universe.

At least I got other magical girls to focus while the wait.

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This thread is creating much entropy.

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And that.. Was hilarious. You people need to calm down. Nothing surprising. But I hope that the continuation will have new magical girls instead to take a break from the Madoka cast.

"Everyone go love Cyan!"
Oct 13, 2012 5:47 PM
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Why Shaft ?! Why should they continue this ultra profitable series to make more money ?! It's not like they're BUSINESS company or something !

Shaft has a production advancement department you know.
Oct 13, 2012 6:03 PM

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mleh said:
This thread is creating much entropy.

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Post of the thread.
Oct 13, 2012 7:26 PM

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Here is was I hope. They should have more seasons but the plot can focuse more on the characters and plus I would like to see more characters that got involve with the contract.
Oct 14, 2012 3:04 AM

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Kazumi Magica please.

Otherwise... ehh.
Oct 14, 2012 3:32 AM

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I don't understand why people want Kazumi Magica and think anything else won't be as good. Have a little faith. Madoka is his original series, Urobuchi for sure is capable of creating another masterpiece, even if he doesn't decide to adapt one of existing mangas.
Oct 14, 2012 6:21 AM

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This is what I want to see more so just give me more!!!
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 14, 2012 12:34 PM

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Yes. :DD
Oct 14, 2012 12:47 PM

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Maybe about Oriko Magica?
Oct 14, 2012 5:58 PM
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SHAFT is already preparing itself for cash-raking of immense proportions, especially with the entire Bakemonogatari series in their hands.

Zenmonogatari + [next Madoka Magica project] = MONEYMONEYMONEY
Oct 14, 2012 6:01 PM

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Milk that cash cow I guess? Idk I'm all for continuing a series if it's still good and if it still makes sense to continue it, but the Madoka anime was pretty finished..
Oct 14, 2012 10:35 PM

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*sigh* if I hear one more thing about Madoka then I think I'm gonna scream...
Oct 14, 2012 11:39 PM

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Meau94 said:
*sigh* if I hear one more thing about Madoka then I think I'm gonna scream...

Prepare to scream every day then ;-)
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 15, 2012 6:44 AM

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The story looked unfinished in the TV series, and even if the movie will complete it, there's still the spin-off manga to explore, as they shed a little light on the whole Madoka-universe as well.

Either way, I'm curious to how far they can milk this.
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Oct 15, 2012 7:11 AM

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Please stop, Madoka was good. Now it should be over. It has run it's course.

peace

Oct 15, 2012 2:16 PM

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symbv said:
This is what I want to see more so just give me more!!!


ARR ... that is sooooo cute!!! Where is that clip from? Is it official???
Oct 15, 2012 2:22 PM

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AFAIK it's from movie's opening. I want more...
Oct 15, 2012 4:59 PM

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zeneevee said:
Please stop, Madoka was good. Now it should be over. It has run it's course.

peace


You never know until it airs. Though I will agree with you in a sense. It's going to take a Herculean feat to top this anime. I'd be really happy with meets expectations at this point since my expectations are at the level of the TV anime.

I hope as well they don't turn up the yuri dial up too much. Suggested yuri is fine, but once yuri takes center stage over the plot, then things can go badly.
Oct 15, 2012 6:25 PM

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AFAIK it's from movie's opening. I want more...

It's from the end of the latest trailer. I believe you're correct about it being in the OP, Luminous.

And it is, like, the best gif ever.


God .. I'd buy it just for that. My yuri goggles exploded.
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scruffykiwi said:
jmal said:
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AFAIK it's from movie's opening. I want more...

It's from the end of the latest trailer. I believe you're correct about it being in the OP, Luminous.

And it is, like, the best gif ever.


God .. I'd buy it just for that. My yuri goggles exploded.


You can also see the whole trailer video (and a lot more other information about the movies) in the following post I posted in another Madoka thread
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=414229&pages=4&show=60#msg17726757
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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Butcher might leave the quartet after the third film. Apparently he wants Aniplex and Shaft to hire a new writer because they're thinking of doing a 2-cour continuation with a new character.

http://0taku.livedoor.biz/archives/4315217.html
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bippo said:
Butcher might leave the quartet after the third film. Apparently he wants Aniplex and Shaft to hire a new writer because they're thinking of doing a 2-cour continuation with a new character.
http://0taku.livedoor.biz/archives/4315217.html

Hiring more writer does NOT mean Urobuchi is quitting !!! ( It is not what Urobuchi said in the interview. In fact he answered the question of "What will become of Magica Quratet" by saying "I want to expand it". After that he said that more writers should be brought in so that Madoka can be sustained over a long period. He even mentioned PreCure as an example -- and not just the fact that PreCure lasts long but also how PreCure started as a 2-people team but is now a 5-people team as the work is constantly updated to suit the time. He wants Madoka to be like that and be remembered over time and what he realizes is that changes and updates may be needed and this is best done by bringing in more talents (which for him would be screenplay writing).
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 16, 2012 10:24 AM
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why the hell is everyone saying milking? I for one am happy with the news. Gen must like Madoka same as me to continue working on Madoka some more instead of other animes :3 In case no one knows or went to watch, the DRAMA CD for Madoka was FCKKKING Good! And it was a great slice of life side story to the Madoka series. I'm eager to see Madoka continued.
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thought I should include link so people know what I'm talking about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXhoQBCRcmE
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Oct 16, 2012 10:42 AM

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Yes, I dearly want a Slice-of-Life version of Madoka. Besides the Drama CD, the official doujin anthology of Madoka has a lot of great slice-of-life stories too. Even Fate/Stay Night and Tsukihime have Carnival Phantasm for example.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 16, 2012 1:23 PM
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Oh hell good news for all the madoka fan, and Gen ofc <3.
2-cour series ... sounds interesting.
Oct 17, 2012 1:09 AM

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Hell yeah!
It seems he wants to create another Precure or Gundam franchise out of Madoka, he's aiming as high as possible. I can only wish him luck and hope that next seasons are as good as first one. Now, give us some REAL heartwarming SoL, Urobuchi, pretty please.
This news really made my day, one of my favorite anime will last for years, deep inside I thought about it happening, seeing how many possibilities madokaverse creates but I never thought I would hear confirmation so soon. Long live Madoka franchise!
Oct 19, 2012 6:37 PM

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Dont know why people are screaming about milking it and not to do anymore. At least wait till whatever they do is out and if it is good then is that not fine? we would of got something else good out of it and something new to watch out of a franchise we like. Though if it is bad then you can feel free bash the crap out of it and call milking.


This. I'll watch it and then I'll say if it was milking or not. I mean, people haven't even watched the third movie to see if a sequel is even possible, but they are sure as hell to complain about it. lol
The only thing I'll say it was done with "milking the cow" in mind was the game. The story is well written and it will please the fans, but it's a crap as a game and they didn't put all that much effort on it. And I'm a rabid fan, just not stupid.

As for a possible alter story (aka one without the original crew), I'm against it. They have so much they can do with the original characters (or at least with Kazumi Magica and Co.). I dunno if I'd continue following it if it was somekind of Precure. Well, wait and see, I guess.
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bippo said:
Butcher might leave the quartet after the third film. Apparently he wants Aniplex and Shaft to hire a new writer because they're thinking of doing a 2-cour continuation with a new character.
http://0taku.livedoor.biz/archives/4315217.html

Hiring more writer does NOT mean Urobuchi is quitting !!! ( It is not what Urobuchi said in the interview. In fact he answered the question of "What will become of Magica Quratet" by saying "I want to expand it". After that he said that more writers should be brought in so that Madoka can be sustained over a long period. He even mentioned PreCure as an example -- and not just the fact that PreCure lasts long but also how PreCure started as a 2-people team but is now a 5-people team as the work is constantly updated to suit the time. He wants Madoka to be like that and be remembered over time and what he realizes is that changes and updates may be needed and this is best done by bringing in more talents (which for him would be screenplay writing).


Madoka being like Precure doubtful, Precure has a much wider audience than Madoka. He needs new writers because he won't make a peaceful magic girl series on his own and trust me fans will want that soon enough.


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Omg omg omg =O

Madoka's a masterpiece, so this is surely going to be great :D

I'm hyped for it :)
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Madoka's a masterpiece, so this is surely going to be great :D
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This makes little sense - so when they should squeeze it?
In 1-3-5 years? People won't buy it then, now it's the best moment. Unless it develops into some long running franchise in type of Gundam or Macross - those are kings of milking.


I think you need to update your examples on who are the kings of milking.
- Macross had it's big hit back in the 80s with Hikaru Ichijou & Lynn Minmay and every series that happned after their supposed lifetime was just happening within their universe. And please don't claim Robotech was part of the Macross franchise because it wasn't. It was a sorry excuse of a franchise wanting to be part of the Macross universe.
- Gundam in the past referenced each other in one timeline (UC) but it has been long dropped and everything else that came out (FC, AC, AW, CC, CE, AD and AG) are mostly stand alone series that have no relation whatsoever to its predecessor.

Those 2 franchises are successful and ARE NOT milking it because they don't use the same cast and characters over and over again doing the same crap. You want a really good example of an anime franchise that's really milking it even when we're sick and tired of it it makes us puke bricks

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Well it's more of an amazing series so why not.
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Janethan23 said:


Those 2 franchises are successful and ARE NOT milking it because they don't use the same cast and characters over and over again doing the same crap.


To be honest I find it strange he thinks either franchise is milking. Macross for its age, doesn't have that many series/movies, and Gundam shows are so different to each other he really has no point in that regard. Other than the Gundam name, non-UC tend to be very different to each other and focus on different demographics. Unless he's going to try to tell me G-Gundam is the same as Wing, or Wing the same as Unicorn.

Milking imo, is constantly using a franchise while staying within the boundaries of what made it successful, and being careful not to stop out of those boundaries. Sunrise hardly does that with Gundam.
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even the second movie made it seem like it was fully over. and we have the 3rd movie on its way for us...
if they use new characters, that might be interesting, have different generations doing this and evolving, might be good if they can do it right


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