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| Seems like the Chrome city is well protected from anything including microwave until "someone" make a hole in it ,I barely can see the sky if its not because of the hole lol. They must have been very upset to left their high-tech city or maybe they left because something bad happen in it. Those robot can't detect those fairy, I guess this creature are just human's imagination but this fairly did help Watashi in many harsh situation.... I wonder does the Watashi has any special Esper ability ? Its really nice that Watashi save those fairy from leaving the town at the price of her hair.Hope those fairy will return after those microwave are gone ^_^/ |
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Bio said: All the other ones had pretty clear messages, but what was this one getting at? Machines are people too? Don't go to space? That's a little harder to swallow than artificial food can be bad. Was also awkward that they never actually showed the shift between the mini monoliths and the humanoid probes. Can't say I really understood that they were actually the same thing rather than just connected until the end. I liked the parody aspect and the genuine references to the probes, though. Just, not to clear on what they were doing with it. The long backstory at the end wasn't really funny or commentary. Suddenly going for drama? A less obvious parody? I do think that part of it is thought on what if one day we do manage to produce things with sentience like that. Much like the situation with eating food with a mind of its own, would it still be the right thing to use them as we please? That and it did help show Watashi has sympathy to her. Despite whatever negative things she has been thinking she continues on with wanting good of those she cares about. And the end seemed to fit in with the tone of the rest of the series to me. It continued showing the ridiculousness of human ways sometimes. So ready to send off the probes into space instead of thinking of them becoming something more. The inability to move past the idea they have stuck on upon. PaninaManina said: Sury said: I wonder why Pion couldn't see the fairies. I have one theory for that. Faeries live only through human imagination and fantasy. As we see in the ending animation, the fairies taught many things to humans, helping them to lift civilization. Except that when humans acquired a certain level of technology they entered the age of reason. The fairies said they can not stand electromagnetic waves. I imagine that technology is bad for them because it decreases the fantasy in the minds of humans. Humans stop believing in mythologies. As a machine Pioneer can't see them. I predict that will be explained or shown that the fairies reappeared in the world because humans entered another dark age. Humans don't know anything anymore and the world came back to be a mystery, making room for belief in myths and folklore, besides not having more consumer electronics to threaten the fairies. Note that in Comiket episode faeries keep away from scene. It would not be because they were keeping away from the printers? Oh, that's a pretty cool idea. I like that they are possibly just the product of the human mind. It would point out quite nicely how people are so often the source of their own issues as life continues on. 7HS said: a 2ch thread describing P-ko commented 塩基計算機を搭載していて人並の思考秩序（意識や感情）があり, meaning something like 'she is equipped with a DNA computer which is capable of human-like thought (consciousness and emotion.)' Ah, I was wondering about this as well, thanks. :) Catastrophic said: i was wondering why her hair wasnt showing any of its life-saving capabilities then. She had not used any of that quick growing hair gel yet. |
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| CURIOSITY, WHAT FATE HAVE WE GIVEN TO YOU?! Also, the story is most likely animated out of order, if you are wondering about her hair. This is before episode 1 and 2. |
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| I hate to sound DUMB But.... What the hell happened to Pioneer and Voyager at the end? Did they turn into those winding things or what? The space thing tugged mah heartstrings. T^T So cold.... *shiver-shiver* |
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s2012k1993 said: I had trouble understanding Oyage's explanation of Pion's (pioneer) anomaly. This is what I seem to have understand, but it makes little to no sense for me. She conducted a pH test (around Uranus) and found the results depressing. Therefore, she, not wanting to miss the warmth of the solar system, decided to decelerate and turn back to earth. On her way back, she found Oyage (Voyager) and brought him with her back to earth. Oyage landed before her and damaged himself in a way to remove his memories, while clothing himself in some mysterious slime to protect himself from microwaves that would self-repair his memories. Meanwhile, Pion crashes into Earth and also loses her memories, which she doesn't regain until she exposes herself and Oyage to microwaves. 1) What does a pH test have anything to do with warmth or even the detection of life forms? 2) Does Oyage hop back to earth with Pion or return back to earth only because of the Human Monument signal? If it's the latter, how does Oyage know of Pion? 3) How do microwaves damage Pion and Oyage and where did their self-repair technology come from (certainly, we didn't have such tech in the 70s)? 4) Oyage claims he was self-aware before being sent into space. How does that work or is the audience meant to suspend their disbelief momentarily? 5) Based on Pion and Oyage's conversations, it seems they didn't find any other lifeforms. If the fairies are a life-form, why doesn't Pion pick them up? (PaninaManina has an interesting hypothesis) 6) What are the slimes??? The episode was very confusing for me, but I did catch onto the main theme. It's hilarious how all the humans treat the two probes as robots, while revealing the existence of very real human emotions from the two of them. I will try to explain a little, but realize that I do not speak English very well. The two probes had the task of simply examining and exploring the unknown space in search of any sign of life. Pioneer, as the name implies, was a pioneer. She was the first to go into deep space and ALONE. At the beginning the mission's exciting. So many planets we've never seen closely, finally within reach. Think how exciting it was getting close to Gas Giants for the first time, except that with each planet you reach, further delay to reach the next and nothing beyond Uranus, only vacuum. Starting from there the Pioneer mission was just afloat aimlessly. When the Pioneer-chan ran that pH test she should not have found NOTHING. That must have been terrifying. She knew she would not have anything else to see, nothing else to do... and more, the solar system is not homogeneous, it has layers.  The Pioneer anomaly is a phenomenon of deceleration that occurs only in Pioneer probes. This does not happen in the Voyager probes. Pioneer-chan was simply scared to keep going alone, except that unlike the Voyager she didn't have the courage to abandon the mission and return. In a way, Voyager says she is a hypocrite for condemn him to abandon the mission when she would do the same at the first opportunity. When Pioneer-chan detected the signal with the instructions for Voyager to come back Earth she used this as an excuse to come back too, and if she had to return to the mission after that she would do accompanied with him rather than alone. What puzzles me is ... why the probes have gained human form? This is not very convenient for humans? Imagine that the probes returned in its original form, the UN staff could handle the technology of it, even if outdated? It's so easy to have probes in human form and may simply say out loud and in human language all they need to know... s not possible that the expectation of them, and their imagination of how these probes would be the driving force that gave power to the fairies to turn the probes into humanoids? |
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SnakeBeater said: I hate to sound DUMB But.... What the hell happened to Pioneer and Voyager at the end? Did they turn into those winding things or what? The space thing tugged mah heartstrings. T^T So cold.... *shiver-shiver* Here is how I understand it: They had around 15 minutes of battery, so they two, together with Watashi build a device with two mechanisms like from an old clock that you could wind. Winding each of them for an hour generates energy for the appropriate probe to function for a minute. Sorry, I'm lazy to post screen shot of the device with the winding mechanisms. |
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| Woah, so random!~ @___@ But that's what makes it one of my favorite shows this season. So, they're the ones who made her cut her long, beautiful pink hair!!!! T___T UNFORGIVABLE. Somehow, the story about the probes reminded me of the first 80's Star Trek movie <___< |
PaninaManina said: Well, maybe. The real difference is that the Voyager probes were often using thrust to correct/change their path and alignment, as compared to the pioneer probes which did not. The precision of the change in velocity when doing so is to poor to be able to accurately predict future acceleration to the same level needed to make reasonable comparisons to the Pioneer probes. The Pioneer anomaly is a phenomenon of deceleration that occurs only in Pioneer probes. This does not happen in the Voyager probes. Anyway, a few people are still arguing about what caused it, but last I read a couple of teams studying the problem concluded that heat radiating from the craft themselves, reflecting off of parts of the craft in the rear, was causing the slow down. In short, last we heard from them the Pioneer probes were getting cold! ;) |
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| Hilarious. This show is just perfect. Space probes turned humanoid? Awesomesauce. <3 |
| Nooooo HER HAIR. Dear god why :(. Hopefully it grows back. |
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| So now we know why her hair was cut in the first episode. |
Tyrel said: This is before the previous episodes happened, so she will probably have her long hair back next episode.Nooooo HER HAIR. Dear god why :(. Hopefully it grows back. |
| Pretty 'stellar' episode as usual. I'm really loving how much thought has gone into the creation of the Jinrui world and just how much fantasy they've been able to pull off in the settings. I think this arc was rather deep in particular and the relationship of fairies and humans is really well thought out and explained 'logically'. I have some commentary and analysis here on the entire arc if anyone's interested in a bit of a read. |
| ^Seeing as two space probes somehow evolved into self aware robots mounted with weapons, I don't think they were going for scientific accuracy. |
| Pion was pioneer & Oyage was voyager..& both of them were robots too.Her hair is short again. |
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| This show amazed me again, sure not everything was realistic but that isn't what this show is aiming for. Her hair is short again, I wonder if this was a prequel or another hair cut. |
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MasterMeNL said: it was a prequel (thankfully).This show amazed me again, sure not everything was realistic but that isn't what this show is aiming for. Her hair is short again, I wonder if this was a prequel or another hair cut. Oh, this show never fails to get some laughs out of me :) |
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| Everyone repeat after me before posting: "This episode was a prequel, her hair was not cut again. This episode was a prequel, her hair was not cut again. This episode was a prequel, her hair was not cut again. This episode was a prequel, her hair was not cut again. This episode was a prequel, her hair was not cut again. This episode was a prequel, her hair was not cut again. This episode was a prequel, her hair was not cut again. This episode was a prequel, her hair was not cut again. This episode was a prequel, her hair was not cut again." |
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wenchance said: Carl Sagan would be turning in his grave if such a thing happened. LOL-MOR! Were not for Carl, this episode would never exist. Funny. |
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Another very fascinating episode. On both terms of Human’s Decline and that of space exploration. I however found it TOTALLY STUPID to make probes have feelings not to mention dragging out the end and finally Watashi did WHAT? Sabotage? WHAT? For who? I can’t even believe the following,  WTF? How did she even use that? Oh wait in the spoiler Instead it was not like that at all. At least she got the fairies back and the probes on hold whom really serve no purpose on Earth other than quenching their loneliness and coming back for some other episodes of this series. That being said some short comments. Find that Pion in the spoiler Totally hilarious duet between Oyage and Pion in the spoiler The most fascinating comes after the above part in the following,  Totally amazing! Along with the spoiler Now that being said I was RAGING in the spoiler The whole monster fight in the spoiler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus A rather legendary monster. I for one as much as many out there screamed for VOYAGER AND PIONEER! In the spoiler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_program And Pion is the latest one the 11 series. Both links explaining marvelously of those 2 probes. A rather strong achievement of humanity before its decline indeed. So the few things a the end were really dumb. Like the emotions in the spoiler Regardless of the bitching it was still good. They should try not to DRAG out stuff like at the end. It leaves a sour taste TBH. Excellent space exploration references. They do deserve:  I will leave it at that. BTW Image Stitches and Pic Dump in the BLOG: http://ecchiking99.blogspot.ca/2012/08/image-stitches-and-pic-dump-of-jinrui.html Some nice ones of Oyage and Watashi. |
| Yumekichi give it a Orson Welles gif. Such a achivement... |
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| @Yumekichi11 I like your picture-filled posts with panoramic effort but you again went full retard overanalyzing, just like that time with ep03. You want no fairies? Why watching the show then. And there won't be any of them if it is about electricity. |
| Good episode :) I'm glad that Pion and Oyage will be staying; I like them. Anyone else think of Disney's Pocahontas when Pion and Watashi went to see Oyage in that tent (tent-like thing)? |
| God... Are some of you really getting the plot? 'cause I do not. Damn ain't sure if I should read the manga instead though... can any1 tell me what just happened in the last minutes? they said something about batteries being recharged or something didn't really get that. |
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ChitOKun said: No I did not say that but I mention the end results consequences. @Yumekichi11 I like your picture-filled posts with panoramic effort but you again went full retard over-analyzing, just like that time with ep03. You want no fairies? Why watching the show then. And there won't be any of them if it is about electricity. I did not mean to emphasize on any fairy hatred but it does irk when humanity is declining of all people one who is a mediator sides with fairies and not humans who are more in need since they are declining. I need to see more than fairies just providing protection. Like for example can do do more than providing provisions and preventing bad luck? Electricity at least would have at least make humans work more around and stuff. So all in all it's not about fairies but more their worth VS the worth of getting rid of electricity for their survival and stopping humans from using it. It's a rather complex debate but in thee end I think humanity may decline less with electricity and fairies trying to coexist instead of whining about it being death for them. Analyzing this show is worth the time TBH. It's rather philosophical IMO. |
| I still think that since humanity managed to decline to the point we have it in anime while having electricity then there's no use going back. It's time for fairies. |
ChitOKun said: That point is quite agreeable however it looked more to me humanity was moving far more and better with that electricity. That's all however let's see how the fairies upon returning output their help.I still think that since humanity managed to decline to the point we have it in anime while having electricity then there's no use going back. It's time for fairies. Punishment was still harsh IMO. Well deserved but too harsh. |
| oyage was SO cuteee ,i loved his cat form |
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| While this was interesting as usual (I was especially impressed with the Pioneer Anomaly reference), this dipped into the area I was hoping it would avoid, i.e. being overly surreal without purpose. I also didn't agree with the message in this one, nor its implications, but that's not pertinent to my feelings on the episode. Despite that, I still quite enjoyed this arc, but it did not meet what I've come to expect. |
| And just like that, Assistant cements his awesomeness as one of the best silent protagonist you'll ever see.Another wonderfully weird ep and loved the dragon quest references. The inclusion of the pioneer anomaly was quite surprising and i enjoyed the anime's unique take on the phenomenon. The ending left me quite confused though, so did Pion and Oyage have their batteries removed for the portable generators or were they actually converted into portable generators? Either way its quite depressing, 1 hour of cranking = 1 minute of power that would mean that they would have to wind for around 60 days just to get a day's worth of juice. |
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| The chronology is sort of wacky, right? So doesn't this take place before Watashi used that magic hair growth thing? That's sort of my perception at least. Eh, didn't shine as great as the other arcs did. Hopefully the second half keeps up a better pace and message the the other ones had. |
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| What a confusing episode. Doesn't help that I watched this early in the morning. Overall, a weak arc. What happened to all the dark and surreal humor? |
| As expected, another hilarious episode. and with a touch of drama too~ probably my second favorite episode for this show so far~ (my favorite is the one with the chickens >_<) Funniest part was this  "Shocking desu ne..." XD And... NOBUYUKI HIYAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Made this episode even more hilarious and SO much more worth watching ( ; w ; ) |
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| Oyage and Pion's story was quite sad. |
| didnt think it was the best arc yet.... but it was interesting that they talked about Pioneer and Voyager from NASA. and i guess it's related to ep1 where her hair is cut short, and we can also see the crater of where the monolith fell when we see the village for the first time. although im still a bit skeptical about the time jump in the story. |
| Well done Japan! Now I feel sad for space probes, excellent job! I always wondered though...if we ever reach such a high technological level that interstellar travel becomes a possibility, will an organization one day reclaim the probes if they are still out there and bring them home? I loved Assistant's drawings and Watashi as usual. Before she confiscated the armor and when she acted all innocent. 5/5 great episode, loved it. |
| No, she's cut her hair again! EDIT: Ah, it seems that this story was before first episode ;D. |
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| I was right that she was the monolith!!! Didn't expect that they were space probes that turned into humans. Nice episode as always. |
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| Am I the only one here who's perplexed as to why Watashi's walkie-talkie worked in this episode, when we clearly see a scene of them running out of battery power in the previous one? Is this just lazy and forgetful writing, or did Pion actually recharge it with her electrical cat powers? If so, where's the scene, I wanna watch it! =( |
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| Still waiting for something as epic as the first arc... |
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| Great episode was quite nice and funny especially with that huge cat and was that a big dady reference with that old diving suit and drill on his right hand? Either way quite an interesting episode! Up to the next one! |
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| big daddy satellites that can turn into humans and gigantic cats, and build bulldozers. yeah this anime is hard on the drugs |
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| I have no idea what I'm watching and I love it. |
| Huh, BIG BATTLE! ... Kind of? :P He transformed into a huge cat ... well, that's certainly interesting o_O Once again Pion shows up to save the day! :P So it turns out they were actually Voyager and Pioneer ... spacecrafts huh? That was certainly unexpected :O They were living all this time and just wanted to come on home ... awww :( Well we certainly DO send them out there for a long time in the cold ... D: Guess this takes place before the first episode since she had to cut off her hair because she let them stay here with us :P Interesting talk about the microwaves though! I mean, the fairies avoid them but they help to repair the memories of the probes? Plus she used it to attack Oyage when he was in his cat form ... curious and curiouser ;O |
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