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| dat moment when himari found the note ;A; GOD WHY? Great series overall. |
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| I'm crying tears of blood here. They just won't stop flowing. It's easily one of the most heart-wrenching yet heart-warming finals I've ever seen in my life. I think I might like it even more than Utena... Fucking 11/10. |
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| Very good show gave it an 8/10 personally I liked the easy going nature the show had the first half. I think it could have been better had it not gone too metaphysical. The message at the end was beautiful and that last episode made up for the previous 4 episodes which where so-so. Confusing story-telling throughout the story but for the most part it was an excellent anime. Very sad but satisfying ending. I think Ringo got the worst part of the deal haha. |
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| That ending quickly escalated... Didn't see even part of this coming until the last ... 5 eps or so, when it all started becoming serious. Damn... I just understood when seeing the images of the first poster on this topic : Loved it. But it started totally differently though, and some eps seemed useless. But still, I'd give it a ... bah, a 9 :D |
ZacksFairApr 14, 2014 1:45 AM
q_w_e_r_t_y said: is the whole caged in a box thing a symbolic thing or it actually happened??? and the apple appearing in Kanba's box, is it a predestined thing or something happened in the past that made the apple appear in Kanba's box??? and the message to their precious one is for who??? The boxes were symbolic. People live inside their boxes, shut off from the world and are never loved by anyone. Because of this they simply fade away. Nobody remembers them, nobody cares about them. They may as well have not existed. The apple was predestined. It represents a variety of things, most notably fate and love. Kanba was fated to be loved and to live. A common line from Shouma throughout the show was that he hated fate because it made life pointless. From the day they were born, they were destined to be loved or to not be loved. Shouma was fated to never be loved. However, Kanba and Shouma cheated fate. They shared the apple of fate and were able to live happily together as a family. But it came at a cost, because they cheated fate they were punished. A punishment that Himari would later share when she got a piece of the apple too. The message for the precious one was to inform us, the viewers, of who was loved. Kanba said he had somebody that he wanted to send a message to. This is because he was had someone he loved, as fate chose him to be loved. When Shouma tried to think of who he would give his precious message to, he came up blank. He had no one who loved him and nobody to give a message to. This is why Kanba had an apple and Shouma didn't. Of course after they shared the apple their fate's became intertwined and they were able to love each other. ChronosXIII said: Hah, Kanba and Shouma replace the two kids in episode 1. So that's why there is a child version of the two in that particular title card. Amazing, I didn't even remember particular scene. Kanba and Shouma's fate was foreshadowed from the very beginning. "But everything's over when you're dead" "It's not over! What I'm trying to say is that's actually where everything begins!" When they gave up their lives for love, that's where their lives truly began. Like Sanetoshi said, everything was a test. I'm sure this show probably has all kinds of things that you'd pick up on with a second watch. |
co1onelMay 19, 2014 10:28 PM
| at first i pick this out of boredeom brcause character sets just seem nice, well this anime is a tear breaker and im glad that i pick it up :') 7/10 for me |
“They stood together in a false intimacy, a nervous contact. And he was in love with her.” ― D.H. Lawrence, Women in Love |
| Ahhhh~ I really wanted Ringo X Shouma to go through to the end. I guess their "fate" cock blocked any romantic feeling... |
| 10/10 I'm still crying right now :( |
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unmemorable_hero said: I'm....still....crying...... Holy shit..... I started this show thinking it would be a 7....then later I bumped it up to an 8, and then near the end I was like, at least a 9...... 10/10 That was amazing..... Truly amazing.....one of the best anime I've seen done so well artistically in every aspect....a true masterpiece. my only beef with it: What the fuck was with Kanba's dead body in the diner? That never got explained, and if it did, will someone enlighten me on it? But seriously....that was...magnificent. The organization killed Kanba's father, other characters allude to him being 'eaten up' or something to that effect by the group, and that Kanba would be next if he kept up his plot. |
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| I'm not sure how I feel about this anime. I like the symbolism & depth but there were a lot of plot holes & needless stuff that happened. Maybe i'll like it more if someone explains some of the more confusing parts to me. Let me see if I got the jist down. Himari is sick. They could avoid most of the pain & suffering of the entire anime by letting her die but thats not an option so they go after the Penguindrum which is in the book (or not?). Shouma is the only real son of that family but shares the burden with Kanba. Due to the familys past coming back to haunt them (mainly because everyone loved momaka (sp?). No one else cared to bother them unless it involved her) so due to their past making life difficult (thus making Himaris life tough) Shouma decides to tell her to go to the grandparents house (Stupid decision on his part. They were the only ones able to save her but being around them caused her more pain as well). At this point Ringo learns that the charm in the book can save Himari (as well as the drum?) at the price of her life. Fast forward. She uses it. They use the drum. Kinda pointless. Here are my questions: 1. What did Ringo even do at the end? Like.. The spell or charm or whatever was supposed to be able to transfer destiny's which she was using to save Himari (which supposedly the penguindrum alone would've saved her or... something?). The price was that Ringo would become invisible (die). That price was transferred over to Shouma so he vanished instead but if Ringo/Shouma saved Himari then what the fuck did Kanba do??? He went into survival tactic mode with Himari & she revealed the penguin drum. He sacrificed himself to save her using it (i think?). Whats the point of the charm & the drum both doing the exact same thing & saving Himari?? The only possible explanation I could think of is that the charm switched how their destiny was going to go from there (death mostly) but took Shoumas life & the drum/tactic brought their present somewhere else (home, no memory of the brothers, etc) but took Kanbas life. 2. Did Momaka get split into the hats? Like.. Were the hats just Momaka? I'd understand if that were the case considering pink-haired-dude said she was the only one that loved him (or something) so he'd want to keep her alive (technically). I have a few more questions but can't remember them at the moment. |
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| My mind and heart are still drifting away in the faraway nothingness realm in astonishment and the stunning, outstanding bittersweet impact I got from this series. Ahhhh... I have to take my mind back to the real world... Need... to... do homeworks.... I'll miss the seizon senryaku transformation scene for a while. |
| That was one hell of a ride. Bittersweet but I'd say that definitely wasn't a BAD END at all. Though Kanba, Shouma and Himari aren't together, the important thing is that they've all escaped that miserable fate they had. Himari has a loving family and is free from sickness. The crime their extremist parents never happened (because they don't exist) and they're now free of all the burden that resulted from it. All is well. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| Too much goddamned symbolism and metaphores. My brain is roasted after watching this anime. And not in a good way. Too many things that made absolutely no sense. Too hard to understand. Doddammit, I like intelligent and clever anime, but they overdid it... sadly. Episodes 1-11 I rate 8/10 cuz nice comedy and Ringo being cute/silly Episodes 12- 24 I rate 6/10 too messed up and complicated. Overall 6,5. I really want to give it just 6 because second half of the anime made me angry... but I'll be nice and give it 7... Never again. |
| I haven't seen a bittersweet ending like that since Gunbuster. |
| well i enjoyed it but i still dont get the end 0.o gabe it a 9 since i enjoyed it and the penguins were awesome |
| My favorite quotes from animes: Those who seek miracles will never experience one. The hand of salvation only extends to people who try to make miracles happen. - Ef a tale of melodies. I destroy worlds. I create worlds. - Code geass We are humans. - Shinsekai yori 100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups, 100 squats, and a 10km run EVERY SINGLE DAY!!! - One punch man |
| Good start, shitty mid, strong recovery, shitty end Mostly everything that happened in this show was nonsense. A lot of the character's motivations are really messed up (the teacher suddenly deciding that he wants revenge after making it clear that he doesn't; the pink haired guy... well, I'll be fucked if I know what's going on with him) The "it was all a dream!" ending is just a cop-out. Symbolism by itself doesn't make for a good story |
| Wow....i actually cried when seeing both of them disappear like that. Haven't cried from an anime in a long time. But at least Himari has Ringo and Sho and Kanba have each other. It just sucked that they both had to disappear without leaving a trace of their existence. That was one hell of a ride. |
| That ending... Kanba and Shouma didn't deserve to die like that ;_;...at least shouma didn't. |
| wow this was really good, love this anime :) |
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| >they shared the fruit of fate As much as I absolutely abhor the idea of "fate" that was a beautiful ending. 9/10 |
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| u guys overhyped this shit wayy tooo much |
Neko_Chick said: NO! It's exactly the opposite! They WERE able to leave a trace: they left a message to Himari, they left a memory in Natsume's head, and most importantly, they made Yuri and Keiju finally understand the message Momoka had left them.It just sucked that they both had to disappear without leaving a trace of their existence. The whole purpose of the show was to leave a message "I love you" to us, watchers, from the director, so that we, watchers, no matter how lost we are or will be in our lives, remember that we're not alone, that there is at least one person who really cares for us, so we should cherish that, because "even if fate steals everything from them, the loved children will definitely find happiness." So cheer up! The finale was epic and grandiose! It totally broke through the limits of the show to spread into the real world of ours. |
sonnandeskcar said: Clearly copied the ending from Madoka, 4/10 cliché ending but it's not copied from Madoka. Baaaka Happy ending, yet it sad. Sho and Kan became kid, for what reason? Kan X Himari and Sho X Ringo at the end, im satisfied with it. |
| I'm left with all the feels... wasn't expecting that kind of ending. This series made me laugh at the beginning, but now I'm crying. Not good, I have a final in an hour. |
| what a strange and wonderful show that was. that is why i watch anime - stories that simply would not exist in any other media. 10/10 |
NeutroNShivA said: Too much goddamned symbolism and metaphores. My brain is roasted after watching this anime. And not in a good way. Too many things that made absolutely no sense. Too hard to understand. Doddammit, I like intelligent and clever anime, but they overdid it... sadly. Episodes 1-11 I rate 8/10 cuz nice comedy and Ringo being cute/silly Episodes 12- 24 I rate 6/10 too messed up and complicated. Overall 6,5. I really want to give it just 6 because second half of the anime made me angry... but I'll be nice and give it 7... Never again. I kinda agree with this one. The plot holes contained in this anime is ridiculously high. The author seems to have a habit of pulling some magical things out of his pockets. Seriously, the anime was quite ok the first part, it was then on the second part the ruined it. The biggest problem with this series is with its characters, they seem to be too inconsistent. In one episode, one character got his personality 180 degrees and on the same episode it happened again. It was most apparent on Ringo and Tabuki. I'm so happy they didn't get too much screen time later because it really irritated me. But don't get me wrong, I'm not a pure hater of this series, in fact, I somehow liked how the series ended. The flashbacks were good, on how the story made it piece by piece. I just didn't like how the show was executed, I feel like the show is very inconsistent. I'll be nice I'll give it 6/10 |
"You should definitely do the things you enjoy. If we were all restrained by common sense, life wouldn't be what it is."-[i]Miyamura Miyako[/i] |
| This anime has put me in a very dark place of sadness, I cried so much while watching the final episode , I just can't give it anything less then a ten. I'm fucking speechless. I know there's no way in hell this should get a 10/10 but something in me is telling me to give it a 10/10. This really made me feel a certain way. I can't even explain it, I just really can't |
| BISH IM IN NARNIA <3 |
| I tried my hardest to understand everything I could, but from episode 14 onwards, it felt like the series had raised its difficulty setting. I really hope I have missed something big, because after the ending I thought: "that was it?". Ringo was my favorite character, even though she was also a victim of the sudden personality shifts / twists in the anime; for example, even after rewatching it, Tabuki and Yuri's desire for revenge was never forshadowed. I can't wait to watch Yuri Kuma Arashi to waste my time on more symbolism. |
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extrarice09 said: examples?I kinda agree with this one. The plot holes contained in this anime is ridiculously high. The author seems to have a habit of pulling some magical things out of his pockets. extrarice09 said: Again, how did any of them go 180? It's just nonsense. The characters were absolutely amazing and were developed very carefully over the entire show.The biggest problem with this series is with its characters, they seem to be too inconsistent. In one episode, one character got his personality 180 degrees and on the same episode it happened again. It was most apparent on Ringo and Tabuki. extrarice09 said: The show is in fact very consistent. It's complicated and touches upon several topics, but it's overall very well executed. It's only a matter of personal preference.I just didn't like how the show was executed, I feel like the show is very inconsistent. kokusho36 said: Like which one? Ringo was my favorite character, even though she was also a victim of the sudden personality shifts kokusho36 said: why did it have to be foreshadowed is one question, but it was foreshadowed. Don't the fact that Yuri - "Princess of Lies" - can steal a girl, give her sleeping pills and try to seduce and hurt her physically and emotionally for the sake of briefly meeting her past love, not enough to expect a possible revenge that she planned with Tabuki long ago? A woman who nobody ever said she was beautiful or loved her. A woman whose father hurt her so badly that she almost died if not for a fate change by Momoka? Is this still not enough foreshadowing of the dirtiness in her personality? And come on, ep 17, right before the break, Sanetoshi pretty much foreshadowed and explained everything:even after rewatching it, Tabuki and Yuri's desire for revenge was never forshadowed. "Isn't it electrifying? In the human world, truth and reality aren't always one and the same. Humans just call their desires and ambitions as 'truth'. Humans will even kill other humans if they have 'truth' as excuse. War. It's war." And I remember people predicting dark side of Tabuki from the OP alone... so no, there were no behaviour outside the character. Or try to at least prove it. |
| I'm so confused, that I don't even know what I'm confused about.. I believe I understood everything that happened but at the same time I don't. ELECTRIFYING! I haven't felt like this since Inception. |
Apologies, I just can't avoid to rant. |
| confusing but Himari is best girl ^~^ |
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| Subjectively, this was one of the most unique and refreshing series I've seen in awhile (well, this and Shinsekai Yori). I really enjoyed it thoroughly. All in all, this was a great ending for a even greater series. |
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| still have a ton of questions, my brain is kind of overwhelmed right now since I watched this in one sitting i don't know how i feel about both of brothers dying and himari getting to live....hmmm i'm really tempted to add this to my favorites list. i'll have to get some sleep first and then think about this anime more |
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| wat I still don't know what was the pink-haired guy's role in it lol |
| Too ridiculous to take seriously, not abstract enough to be avant-garde. Incoherent and congested narratives aren't "deep". Watching two-dimensional characters yelling for 24 episodes about "fate" and saving Himari was monotonous as hell. 5/10 overall for not being completely terrible. |
| It was really confusing. I loved some parts of it, some parts were a bit boring. I really loved the characters. The art was really good, specifically the way they used colours in the backgrounds. The way the house stood out was beautiful. 8/10 |
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| bittersweet ending, it's very good.. anyway is Ringo eventually remember shouma? |
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| That. was. amazing. If I had to summarize this whole entire ride and that ending it would be those 3 words. I would love to give this anime a perfect score but there were some bits here and there that I wasn't into. So a solid 9/10 series and 6/5 episode. The goodbye between Shouma and Ringo hit me a lot more than I thought it would. I don't know how to feel from these bittersweet endings. I know it's good but at the current emotional state I can't help but feel sad. Very complicated feeling indeed and this whole show in general. So Kanba and Shouma basically sacrificed themselves at the end and just changed the whole entire world completely. Not too sure about those two kids at the end there. Were they actually Kanba and Shouma reincarnated or "ghosts" getting ready to leave with the penguins. Either way beautiful anime. Definitely getting into my favorites list. |
| I felt like watching the animated Lost. The series is getting gradually more and more ridiculous. Authors are adding "mysteries" and "twists" just to keep this train running but oh boy how stupid it gets. Initially likeable characters start to behave totally illogically, talk nonstop about fate and punishement. Give me a break, you are beating a dead horse already in middle of series. Art and animation is nice and soundtrack is no doubt the best part of this series, but that is it for me. All those empty symbols and would-be depth and richness of story is so flat, that it is often more interesting to pay attention to penguin sidekicks clowning around. I havent been so angry about anime since infamous School Days, I cannot believe I finished it. |
Heartless_czMay 25, 2015 10:35 AM
| Best bullshit and troll anime since Inferno Cop and NGE Instant 10/10 and straight to my anime favs |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Some serious mind funk episode. I don't actually know what to say, my mind has been seriously funked, thanks to this anime, i'm just gonna take a little break from anime to compose myself. |
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