With regards to Kotoura-san, you asked for my reasons in the thread.
Here you go:
The premise looked so full of promise.
This introduction was so... poor. The girl is so plot conveniently stupid, even the dumbest of children will have learnt to avoid blurting out what they've just learnt like she does if they get spurned and punished every time they do it. It's basics! Negative reinforcement like that even works on dogs! Why is this child so retarded? Oh right, because otherwise this melodramatic situation will have never have come about.
If I'm honest, I actually felt for the mother, even if they did make her massively over exaggerate her inability to deal with it to force down our throats "OMG, look how hard a life she led! Brings a tear to your eye doesn't it? ..... WHY AREN'T YOU CRYING YET?!!". Having to deal with someone that incorrigibly stupid would drive me mad. Then again I would have dealt with it better, I suppose everyone in that family was stupid.
Lol what? What the hell was with that random asshole "You were feeding the kitten, what a pain! Never come back!".
And that graceful way they introduced the main character, the guy to resolve her problems:
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!.
This is about as subtle as the Gurren Lagann in the final episode, but wielding a hammer with the word "EMOTION" stamped on it. Yeh, about that subtle.
Anyway, so continuing on with the second half...
So she has become a self pitying idiot who still hasn't learned to control herself. If it weren't for how fake the other girl's reactions were, I'd almost empathise with them.
Okay, I quite like the guy at least, he fits the role he needs to well, and well, I can sort of imagine someone like him trying to cheer up a scrooge just for the fun of it. He is a bit too stupid for my liking, but I'll take the good bits where I can.
Yeh, I should, cause that next scene. "The driver didn't care that the light was red". My god that set up is so stupid it actually made me laugh. So a driver in a lorry was going to skip a red light, running over someone (because he must have seen them) in broad daylight. Yep, sure, that's realistic isn't it?
Overall
It's trying so hard to be emotional, endearing and heart warming, but the writing is absolutely shit, and it has no emotional subtlety, it likes to beat you down with it. Let me put it this way, the subtlety is worse than AnoHana was. Picture painted.
Additionally:
Firixizu_Mint said:
InfiniteRyvius said:
mokki said: it's not trying hard to be emotional. i loved the first episode and i didn't cry or feel sad, but i really enjoyed the writing and i don't think it deserves to be called "shit." just because most of the users here cried or got upset doesn't mean that's what the director intended to happen. i also don't think haruka deserves to be called retarded or a self pitying idiot. she was just a little child when she started hearing other people's thoughts, and she thought they were actually talking because she was a child and couldn't make sense of it. instead of her parents trying to understand and teach her how to control her ability, they abused her and abandoned her. after enduring abuse and abandonment from almost everyone she's ever met or known, including her parents, are you actually getting mad at her being cold and mean towards everyone around her? the writing actually makes sense here.
You don't think it was trying to be emotional? Not even when she finds solace in that abandoned cat, which gets cruelly taken away by some random woman who also tells her to fuck off and never come back, leading her to have an emotional breakdown and scream? Not at all?
I call the writing "shit" because it gives us an unconvincing plot and some really poorly thought out plot devices. It also didn't lead up to the dramatic sessions well, though that's possibly a directing problem rather than a writing problem. I get that the mother and father were both horrible human beings, however you have to ask yourself, how? They are shown as initially loving people, but then they become assholes. Also, they apparently NEVER QUESTIONED her ability. Nope. Didn't take note of it at all. I'm not going to believe that. That is poor writing.
I get how she doesn't want to make friends, but the fact she still doesn't bother to restrain herself from giving responses based on peoples thoughts is.... it's like she's picking a fight with everyone, like she wants to be hated by everyone. There's a difference between having no friends and being hated. This is why I also say she's self-pitying.
Anything else?
The breakdown after the woman took the cat away, imo that happened because of the emotional buildup she experienced after all the horrible things she has received and those feelings just happened to explode when the cat was taken away
The mother and father part, you realized that her mother has tried going to many doctors even she thought that Kotoura is being possessed with evil spirit right? Probably, the parents just don't know that she has ability to read people mind or at least don't want to accept the fact that she has that kind of ability because if they accept it, their secrets will be revealed. That's why they (including her friends) consider Kotoura a threat
Quoted it from the other forum
"But there's a subtler message behind it, and that's the fact that the reason Kotoura-san is such an outcast is because of the gap that exists between people's desires and what they say and do. Of course no one likes to be reminded of that gap, and that makes Kotoura a threat."
And lastly she was just a child, she didn't realized that her ability is abnormal at first and thought that it was okay to let out all of her mind-reading works. And what could she do if her friends know her ability to read mind and end up hating her? If you find someone who can read your mind, what will you do? but, I can't deny that she purposely making herself being hated by her friends to make them get away from her and lacking restraint to not giving responses because she doesn't want the same thing happen again in the future.
Just my thought, can be right or wrong :)
You are right regarding the cat, I never said otherwise, it's just that he said it wasn't trying to be emotional which I thought was bizarre, the scene with the cat was quite clearly meant to cause emotion, they even put on the "this is the time to cry" music when it happened.
The mother, I do get what happened, I'm saying it's hard to swallow. I do think going to all those doctors etc was reasonable, I could easily see that happening. However, it's how it got that bad in the first place that I find questionable. The mother was originally shown as a loving parent, and we saw that Kotoura had the ability from a young age, she must have figured out her ability, how could she not have? This was a time when the family was all happy too, so it wouldn't have been a bitter pill to swallow, she wouldn't have had secrets to reveal (well, not major ones anyway). In any case, the way the episode portrayed it, it's as if they didn't figure it out until a few years later when their home life was on the rocks, and that's when they couldn't accept it. Why did it take them so long?
I should point out at this point that I don't hate the show, I do think it will be an enjoyable show, but it was just so heavy handed and clumsy in the first episode I found it took away from everything. I think it's one of the better shows to start airing this season, but I just think they could have done it so much better, rather than simply instructing the audience "feel sad now".
Mawaru Penguindrum is the reason I am writing on your profile now. Not wanting to spoil it's greatness with trivial words, I will only say that it is my #2 favorite and I hold it dear like a fine wine, and those users that also love it. So, be my MAL friend. We are bound by the wheels of fate.
oops .. no problem ! ^__^
first .. good luck with your work ^^ work never ends lol
the only thing I do to entertain myself in my free time these days is to watch anime .. I watch much more than before
now .. I'm very surprised !
first .. that you are watching that bear cafe show XD XD somehow I never imagined that a show like this will catch your interest P:
second .. it seems to me that you didn't like the episode of tsuritama *__*
anyway .. this is the first Nakamura show for me so maybe that's why it really felt great ? the style felt very refreshing .. and I liked the metaphors alot especially the "drowning" scenes ..
great news about utena ! I'm watching it ( reached episode 9 ) and Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Utena feels more original and unique to me than mawaru @_@
and I really liked the references to Lady Oscar : ) used to love rose of Versailles when I was a kid XD
Legend of the Galactic Heroes is really great .. loving it so much ( e.17) great political story with great nations and Ideologies .. never seen an anime like this before, code geass inspired soooo much from this show but never became as good or even close !
I have a question .. a matter of curiosity P: do you watch the Bundesliga ? because i'm a big fan for Bayern Munchen XD supporting them from the days of Stephen Effenberg and Mehmet Scholl ..
my apologies if I wasted your time .. nice to hear from you too ^_^
I replied to a post of yours in the Tsuritama thread. Please check it out and tell me if it was insightful and/or informative by commenting on my profile. :>
I'll be glad to continue the discussion in comments if you want, too. You'd be surprised how tightly knit together anime staff can be, stylistically.
hey, how are you soulelle ?
I would like to recommend "Tsuritama" to you from this season
fantastic art style and a very unique story
this is the other noitaminA this spring : )
I'm also fine ^^
you know ? In fact .. I love Shaft ! I was excited for nise so I decided to watch bake, and thank god I did ! XD Shaft is a great group of artists .. and I love their previous works like Madoka and ef .. bake tops them because it was adapted from a novel so the writing is exceptional here .
yup, I also don't like fan-service at all .. but what really annoyed me was some scenes regarding Hachikuji ! they were really .. offensive to me I mean she's just a kid
anyway .. I liked araragi and senjougahara very very much !
about noitamina .. I will make sure to watch Thermae Romae .. oh, I was really disappointed with guilty crown ! I felt that it was broadcasted via the noitamina slot because of commercial purposes .. not like other noitaminas
and of course I will watch FLCL, anything you recommend is a must watch ! : )
what about Utena ?
and, soulelle .. can I send a friend request ?
thank you very much for your time ^^
