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Feb 11, 2015 10:18 PM

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Wow, Killua is dangerous...
Ok that the heart was in a bag, but loved it anyway!!
Feb 14, 2015 12:46 PM
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I know I'm in the minority when I say this but I actually prefer the 2011 heart scene to the 1999 version, or at very least think it's very good in its own way.

In the 1999 version its more "in your face" that Killua can be seriously fucked up, he crushes it.

On the other hand, the 2011 version goes for a more "chilling" feel. I love how he just holds the heart, stares at Jones with a sadistic grin on his face as he slowly dies. There was no BGM at the time which I felt definitely added to the scene, all you could hear is the heart-thump. Placing the heart back in his hand is an extra but brilliant touch. I don't know, it's not as "holy shit" as the original but I find this one a bit more subtle in its delivery but also brilliant.
Mar 16, 2015 9:53 PM

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Mar 17, 2015 12:26 PM

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Nice clean kill, it would be more interesting if Killua just threw the heart off into the bottomless pit, but he isn't that evil yet.

Mar 26, 2015 3:44 PM

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Holy sh*t, after he killed those two guys on the blimp thing I was expecting Killua to have a quick/easy win but DAYUUUMMM ripped out a guys heart... He's one stone cold bastard
Apr 18, 2015 7:54 AM

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damn Killua's badass o.o
Apr 20, 2015 5:14 PM

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Oh Jesus, Killua is a monster.
Jun 27, 2015 9:56 AM
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killua is such a badass!
Jun 30, 2015 11:25 PM

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Holy fuck, that execution was beyond scary. Kilua, you beast.

Also, Leorio.... just... wow.
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Jul 28, 2015 12:29 PM

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Dat heart
Aug 30, 2015 9:48 PM

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Divinenega said:
I found this post on another forum, and I think it;s an interesting way to look at the heart scene's censorship:

While I am resoundingly in favour of the old anime in virtually every conceivable regard, the heart removal scene in this episode--taken purely in isolation--is something I prefer in this new adaptation. There's something subtle about it--and something very, very clever.

The removal of music is sufficient to bestow the scene with some gravitas on its own, but it was having Killua wrap the heart up in the cloth and have the screen play perform simply to the sound of the heart beat that was so achingly clever; and it's all down to what it does for the imagination.

Hiding the heart from view is necessary for the time-slot--and I won't pretend that what's happened here is anything other than a response to that--but it's how this anime takes that restriction and uses it to its advantage to evoke something sinister that I find staggering.

After Killua does his work, when you hear the heart beat sound start up when the screen dashes to Joness's profile, your imagination gets to work. You start to think: "Did Killua just...?" And then the screen turns to Killua, who doesn't flagrantly show the thing off to reach an immediate climax; he lets the thing pump away, hidden so weakly from view, in blood-soaked bit of cloth. The sight of the heart itself couldn't be more close--but you never get that catharsis...you never get that immediate shock--and this makes the scene that bit more disturbing. You never quite get to see the full extent of the horror.

If Killua had revealed the heart from the outset, that would have necessarily been the climax to a crescendo of tension. There's no way, I believe, that you can maintain a sense of unease when a pulsing human heart is in full view. The full extent of the deed would be in full view, and there would be nothing more to say about it: the shock is there, and that's that. It is because Killua leaves it up to your imagination to imagine the gore oozing inside that bit of cloth that the sight is horrific. As a result of the cloth being blood-soaked--nothing more than a paltry curtain--the heart is never more than a thin veil away from a terrible sight: it's achingly close. Having Killua go through the trouble of tying it up in a knot, suggesting continued tampering with a functioning human organ, makes the interference on his part feel disturbingly gratuitous. He doesn't outright show Joness why he's suddenly feeling cold, he lets the realisation slowly dawn upon him...but it's never actually confirmed. We all know it, but we're never quite get that closure. We're still left in palpable anticipation. Killua invites your imagination to consider the worst--to consider just how ugly the thing looks, and continue to gather suspense for the impending sight of it. The disquieting crescendo can keep building--and that makes the scene very affecting.

But there is no climax. You get close to it, but you never quite see it. All the while, Killua just holds that pulsing bag in his hand--a symbol representing an impending horror. Worse than actually finding a zombie in Resident Evil, for example, is the knowledge that you're about to find a zombie behind a door--and it's that tension before you encounter something you're not sure you're prepared for that makes your stomach turn. Like getting a vaccination, it's the wait that kills you; the process is brief and lacks impact. The effect is emulated here; having the heart wrapped in the bag represents that door or that wait--it's the difference between the tension being released and the sickening sense of tension being maintained. The fact that Killua never crushes the heart leaves its horror in tact....because it's still there. You can't get that climax to release the tension. He places it back in Joness's fingers and its relative horror never subsides, because that climax--the full reveal of the heart--is never satisfied. It's still there, so close but so far away, the quietude of the scene only augmenting the unchanging sentiment of tension--a sense of tension that, even when the electronic counter changes to '3', never goes away.

For something born out of need to meet the demands of an early-morning time-slot, I think that's absolutely genius.

freakin' agreed.

Damonashu said:
You all must stop whining so incessantly about the lack of gore in this adaptation. It's far too reminiscent of immature people who say things along the lines of "it's not mature if people don't die," and far worse than that, it shows a willing ignorance of how different things between the late 90s and now, are. Lastly, it's not a valid criticism. While I don't believe that blood should be censored because it can and has been used as an effective dramatic cue, gore doesn't really add much. I will admit that a particular scene from the climax of Greed island won't have as much as an impact as it did in the manga, if they censor it (as signs show they will), as long as it doesn't ruin the story or characters, it's fine.

That said, another quality episode. I just watched 9 - 11 in one sitting so forgive me if it wasn't in this episode, but watching Hisoka fight that guy and seeing how fluid the animation was really made me happy that madhouse is animating this series.


also agreed.


Toto_y_Moi said:
colbub said:
This version did censor things quite a bit: I mean, instead of presenting the woman who Leorio gambled with as a psychologist who made people suicide, she was presented with a different crime, and they didn't really show Killua's heart ripping scene as intensely as they could have. You could say that, of course, the heart being in a bag made of his shirt makes it seem more suspenseful but the shirt was sucked into the hole, not ripped out. There's a hole in that theory. So, if it wasn't the shirt, why would Killua have a paper bag for gruesome things? He came here for a game, for entertainment, and he had been trained to kill since he was three. Though him giving back the heart was funny, I agree.

Also, with the bright colours, it does give a sense of life into the animation, and more kid-friendly, but it stops the atmosphere of how unforgiving the Hunter Exam is. It doesn't wholly get through the feeling that the people who pass the hunter test can be unforgiving, and that's why when presented with Gon's sometimes aloof and trusting attitude that they want to help him. It's just that kind of world, and somehow, sometimes it doesn't feel that way, which I worry sometimes for in the future Gon influencing others comes into play many many times...

I guess I could some it up by the new series being 'cuter', and the old series being 'cooler' (artwise). You can't really criticise the quality of art in the old one since it really was old, but how they're presented... it gives me that impression. It's whether the watcher is more adapted to the newer style of art, or could appreciate the old style of art.

Although both have it's good and weak points, somehow right now I think the old one still has more impact. Maybe in the future of this new series it would change. If I was too harsh, I'm sorry. >_<

Actually, aside from Killua wrapping Johness' heart up in his shirt cloth, the new series was closer to the manga than the original.

http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/71821-Hunter-X-Hunter-Anime-Fall-2011?p=2707026&viewfull=1#post2707026

I did an in depth comparison here, if you're interested.


that was cool! do more :)
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Sep 19, 2015 1:16 PM

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This just got way better.
Jan 1, 2016 2:53 PM

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Wow. Killua. Didnt see that coming :O
Jan 6, 2016 1:58 PM

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I don't understand why this remake is 17+ and the original is pg-13 like wtf,in that the heart was not censored.
Apr 9, 2016 1:35 PM

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Heart scene was better in the 1999 version, Still good tho.


Light-Yagami-God said:
I don't understand why this remake is 17+ and the original is pg-13 like wtf,in that the heart was not censored.

+17 Because of the CA arc.
May 2, 2016 7:08 PM
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Killua's a badass there, and returning back the heart just makes him even more creepier of a character.

5/5
May 2, 2016 7:56 PM

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God fucking dammit Leorio. You're an idiot, why do I like you so much?
May 31, 2016 3:56 PM
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Haha, he took his balls.......Oh, that's his heart.
Jun 13, 2016 11:35 PM

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oh please~ why no gore. :(
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Jul 7, 2016 2:19 PM

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After watching this great episode, I can only say, I'm so sick of this nostalgia amnesty so people are giving the original anime over this far better one.


I read the manga first (but stopped, because I knew it would never resolve) and then checked out the 99 anime... I absolutely hated it more than anything.
It was one of the worst adaptations I had ever seen in my life. Horrible animation, even worse pacing and the filler, my god.

It killed all enjoyment of the manga chapters I had read.


I have loved this new series from beginning to end thus far; and while they cut some stuff that people complain about; it's called cutting the fat. What they cut is redundant and slows down the pacing; manga or not.

And I cannot believe people are saying the coloring in the original series is superior. That was one of the most butt-ugly things about it. Hisoka with teal hair (that was later changed to orange, for some reason), everything was so muted and wrong.

Menchi looks a million times better with blue hair, and Leroute looks closer to her manga counterpart than her muted 1999 anime design.




It's an overdue post, but god, am I sick of nostalgia allowing bad adaptations of the past to get an automatic free pass.
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Aug 5, 2016 9:00 PM

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Only Kurapika seems to be truly wary of Killua lol Gon is just like "Yeah he's a killer nbd".
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Oct 5, 2016 9:29 PM

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Leorio got a feel. Nice. I'd hit it, too.

Killer 5: Take Your Heart.

Killer with the wan taan kill.

Killer is dead.

Damn. I wanted Leorio to say something to Leroute before he left.
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Oct 15, 2016 1:53 PM

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Killua, damn lol.
Dec 2, 2016 2:14 PM

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Wow.. killua killed him like he was nothing o.O
Dec 19, 2016 2:47 PM

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That was an OK episode.
I'm starting to think this anime is highly overrated, I'm watching this slowly because it's pretty boring until now. However, my friends told me to keep watching because it gets better later, let's see if it's true.
Mar 10, 2017 9:45 PM

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That escalated quickly









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Apr 20, 2017 4:28 PM

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Well it was quite predictable that he's rip out the heart, but man I'm happy I was right.
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Jul 23, 2017 7:17 PM
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Killua with the brief kill, amazing
Nov 23, 2017 6:26 PM

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Um. That was my favorite part D: the part where Killua crushes Johness' heart in front of his desperate face

Maaaaaaannnnnn.

I GUESSSSSSSSSSSSS... I don't like these little changes in the new series, but I'm still in for the ride bc apparently there are also perks to it, according to ppl :/ like I heard the battle scenes are pretty epic so I'm just waiting it out til it happens. It's a little hard tho every time I see something different that I don't necessarily approve of v__v
Dec 12, 2017 7:03 AM

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I can't blame Leorio for guessing that she's a guy. With newer and more 'weird' anime fanbase in 2011 than in 1999. There are more traps in anime than there have been ever before!!!

Killua is badass, even though he did not crush the heart...
May 20, 2018 7:52 AM

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Rewatching.


Hmm, Killua ripping out the heart was a bit lackluster compared to how I had it in memory.

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Aug 10, 2018 4:45 AM

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So much whining about the censorship, but I found it hilarious! I thought Killua had cut off the guys ballsack at first for some reason and I cracked up, only to then realize that a ballsack wouldn't be that big and wouldn't be pulsating either... yeah, I'm an idiot.

But what about the fact that Leorio prioritized fingering the vajayjay of a girl over passing the Hunter exam? I love a good old pervert who knows what's up and isn't ashamed to admit it in front of others. Sexual assault has never been this fun!

I liked this episode a lot actually.
Aug 13, 2018 11:15 PM

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damn you leorio …you and your libido cost them 50 hours ..but damn that heart replacing technique though.
Sep 20, 2018 10:44 AM

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Sitting in class right now with my jaw dropped. That little shota boy ripped a mass murderer's heart out!
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Dec 23, 2018 6:45 AM

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Shame about the censorship about the hearth, but still wasn't that bad to be honest! Looking forwards to see what's next!
May 12, 2019 5:21 PM

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Don't mess with Killua! Probably the cutest little badass ever.

Leorio brought many laughs this episode too xD

Oct 3, 2019 12:21 AM

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Leorio's dumbassery might've cost them 50 hours worth of time they could've used to escape but it's not all bad since Hisoka got out of there in just 6 hours and they wouldn't have been able to confirm Kurapika's victory without killing anyone if it weren't for what Leo did. Can't say the same for the last guy though. Him getting his heart ripped out and losing the fight for just a fraction of a second was horrifying and an astounding feat of Killua.








Nov 28, 2019 10:39 PM
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I'm disappointed in Leorio although, frankly, Killua surprised me.
Apr 11, 2020 2:11 PM
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Haha. "My dad can do it better so theres no blood" This is getting good!
Aug 4, 2020 3:05 PM
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i love coming back to this anime
Sep 2, 2020 4:23 PM
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And I thought that Leorio was clever... lol, he's totally perverted xD the most interesting character was Kirua wow he literally stole his opponent's heart in 1s that's both impressive and terrifying
Sep 23, 2020 2:07 AM

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Damnnn Killua is op as fuck, that was nasty can't wait to learn more about him.
Sep 26, 2020 11:41 AM
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Oh, jeezus Killua. I was not expecting that.
Oct 8, 2020 12:32 PM

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Just like with the 1999 version, I would enjoy this anime more if Leorio and Kurapika weren't main characters. Killua is by far the most interesting of the bunch and Gon is okay.
Dec 6, 2020 1:29 AM

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now that was crazy left me speechless, finally got that hook in even deeper! lol
Jan 25, 2021 6:25 AM

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WHATTT, Killua is just- WHAT
Feb 4, 2021 8:45 PM

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NGL, I expected Leorio to lose his and Killua to win his. The whole Leroute being a girl thing was hilarious. I hope we see Leroute again sometime. I wonder why Hisoka needed to take the exam again. He seems like he coulda passed it the first go-around lol.
Apr 7, 2021 12:47 PM

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Something's wrong with Killua's head and it seems like Kurapika is the only one the least bit worried
May 11, 2021 9:11 PM

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Hahaha lucky Leorio, getting to touch that beautiful girl. Im so jealous.

Killua fucking murdered that guy :D

Aug 22, 2021 12:56 PM

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Damn this episode really signified Killua as most powerfull person of the bunch, even Kurapika doesn't feel as strong as him.

This kid really is something else and his moments so far in the anime have been some of the best and most memorable
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