When does One Piece start to get good?

outlaw98 said:
thanks for responding all. I started reading the manga and so far its better than what I remember in the anime. I'm thinking that I will probably just continue reading the manga instead of watching the anime since I have such a crappy internet connection, plus I don't want to go through the trouble of avoiding the fillers.

jpem said:
Seems we gained another great user today.

gatygun said:


Also "gaara" enemy was a interseting take on it.

tsudecimo said:
Never. Either you like it or don't for the mindless ''fun'' that it is.

Ookami-Kaze said:
I became a fan of one piece at the Arlong park arc. Thats when it separated itself from other shonen and showed that it wasn't just a goofy comedy show with the occasional fight, well at least in my opinion.

tsudecimo said:
Never. Either you like it or don't for the mindless ''fun'' that it is.

Polyphemus said:

You're a Naruto fan. It's mindless minus the fun. Back down.

The most important thing you should take from reading One Piece is that it's an adventure manga first and foremost. This isn't Bleach or Hunter x Hunter, which are more traditional battle manga

tsudecimo said:

One Piece is a traditional battle manga, adventure being it's main genre doesn't change that, same goes for Dragonball (a lot of battle manga have adventure as one of their genres) . And I really wouldn't call HxH traditional, especially compared to One Piece..seriously. It's main appeal is that it's atypical.

gatygun said:
Got mixed feelings about the series. One piece never really got my attention as the art style and the weird way of movements mainly. Always felt like a stoner series.

As a lot of people praise it and it has a lot of content which only gets better and better from what i heard i forced myself to get through the start of the series just to see if the series clicked with me.

I watched now 139 episodes ( half way season 5 ) and i think i got a fair idea on how the series is really.

The start of the series was interesting, it was a new take on anime that i didn't saw before which was refreshing. Also the story pushes really fast forwards which was soemthing i liked. As most anime get stuck on a certain area with endless amounts of episodes where not much happens in ( or is filled with filler material ).

So the start was actually interesting of the series, i had to get used towards the art style that's for sure.

I also find it interesting on how the series pretty much copy's all kinds of idea's from other anime's or disney or whatever else and forms its own version of it. Which is interesting.

The pinocchio arc was absolute the most horrid at the start, that almost made me quit the series entirely. I just had to push myself through it terrible. The whole char can be deleted in my opinion. And i hope he won't last much longer in the series, but he probably will.

I like the relax laid back and not so serious kind of tone the anime has specially at the start.

Then the nami arc started and i got pulled back in, the story was really good with the mermaid fish dudes. I liked it a lot and gave me enough fuel to push me forwards in the series. I got some kind of naruto feeling from it at that point.

The series moved again fast forwards after some filler material and after some great encounters with that sword dude and the steam dude the serie got more depth on that the main char can't just take down everybody in a sec.

I really wanted the story to hit the grand line and moves forwards to see him hit the one piece or whatever dangers would be in there.

The start of the grand line ( pinocchio whale ) was again a interesting weird take on it and soon after that they met some giants which was a interesting story but dragged forwards to long in my opinion.

I liked that they introduced number enemy's much like what bleach has with there enemy's. and that they moved fast through them by defeating them.

Then the desert part started with really strong enemy's which i really wanted to see how that would end + got a dejavu towards the nami part only on a more workout out level.

But the arc was filled with fillers that dragged on and on and on which made it a incredible sore to sit through it. Also "gaara" enemy was a interseting take on it.

That arc kinda burned me out entirely tho even while there where interesting parts in it. I just wanted it to be over with, way way way to much episodes spend on it. It's not what one piece was before it. They should have shortened it way way more.

Now the story mvoed forwards and all kinds of filler islands and other bore ministory's accure which are absolutely dreadful. I will force myself through another 3 seasons probably as i read that soon the story will pick up again.

But i honestly don't know if i can sit 16 seasons through this stuff.

It seems to be a hit and miss at places. The alabarca or whatever it was called just burned me out entirely on it.

I'm now watching some fire works episode and after i finished that some monkey dude and a robot island aka filler filler filler, and i reached a point where i just fast forwards through episodes to see if there is something interesting going to happen.

My conclusion after 140 episodes is that the series needs to be cut down by somebody. just get rid of all the filler material and move from story straight into another interesting story. Cut the horrible fillers and cut some of the longer arc's like the sand arc with the sand guy into a more watchable experience.

For new people towards this, if you got nothing else to see this will probably entertain you on some level if you skip through the boring parts. Otherwise i would just skip it entirely.

The good content is to sparse to sit through the endless hours of anime.

- based on the first 140 episodes.

edit ( watched another 160 episodes at 300 now)

Watched a bit more lately i'm now currently at episode 297 and probably will finish to 300 today. I basically watched the skyland arc and currently at ernest island ( goverment ) which is probably wrapping up soon. All the fillers in between are hardly remembered anymore.

As i heard the water 7 is the most favorite arc for a lot of people i really wanted to see why and kept on going.

The sky island arc was interesting at first, ( mysterious + incredible powerful god ) but soon ended up in the same never ending arc as the sand one. It overstayed it's welcome way to long. A cut down version would probably make the arc a lot more watchable.
I basically ended up having the same impression as the sand arc when the final boss fight started to happen, i just wanted it to be over with so we could jump to a new story. ( lol at the ending of it tho ).

Good arc if it would be cut down considerable much like the sand arc.

The water 7 arc was interesting, because i heard good reviews about it. And i wanted to know more about the hand girl nakami that they ended up picking up ( not good with names). I heard that all get explained there. A lot of people also seemed to find it one of the best arcs there was to the serie so i couldn't wait.

When i saw the ice dude, ( i love ice chars in general ) i got stoked again. I really wanted to see what would go forwards. When the island got introduced i didn't think much of it as to why would this island be interesting at all. But when the story progressed it get better and better. I liked the Italia kind of influence with the sinking city and the flood ( the netherlands ) that would happen. I liked the back story's of the characters. And i liked that there where incredible strong chars that simple where seen to be unbeatable and that luffy really was in danger here and couldn't just stream roll to victory. They really had a big issue here where i really wanted to see how they could beat them or progressed against them.

I liked how the island had a dark environment instead of a lighter one.

Once water 7 wrapped up ( atleast i think it ended probably not ) they moved on towards the ernest island). I liked this concept as it gave me the feeling that the story moved forwards drastically by moving forwards towards a different island. I got the feeling that i wasn't stuck in a palce forever which i hated in the arcs before it ( longer ones ) and that i got a fresh new beginning again even with the same chars and enemy's.

I couldn't wait to see what happens on the island and i wasn't disappointing at the start of it, the progression into the island also did go fast and i really wanted to see how they could ever possible do damage towards them or to get there girlfriend back again.

Then the story dropped some of my interest personally all of the sudden. The big issue with it was that somehow in those few episodes of chasing over the water they all got a massive power boost and can damage those enemy's that where practically unbeatable before. Everybody seemed to get a power up ( the dam reindeer, zorro, bruce lee, the girl with her staff ), it just made no sense to me at all.

And luffy seemed to power up towards super saiyan 1 out of nowhere and pushed towards super saiyan 2 on top of it in a matter of 3 episodes. I was "what the hell is going on lol". Why didn't he used this before? did he suddenly got a power up out of doing nothing? Oh the hell he got even another power up on top of it.

Anyway, the fights started to happen, and i hoped that either they would be dealt with in 1/2 episodes per fight end just end it with that as they suddently could easily attack them ( made no sense to me ) but instead it started to grind like a slow turtle forwards again like hte other arcs did.

Good luck our little friend ace did get some action again in a episode, and frankly i'm more stoked about the ice guy + ace in future episodes then anything else atm. The main act dropped the ball a bit to much in my vision.

I'm currently at them collecting keys and beating the crap out of c9, but i'm already started to bend towards the point of becoming a drag again where i just want it to end. The 20 episodes to finish up a fight is becoming frustrating.

Anyway i hope it ends soon, because the fights are becoming idiotic to say the least, it probably will drag on for another 100+ episodes tho.

After this arc ends i will probably only resort towards some fights on youtube or something to the chars that i like and just read some wiki's on how things progress to wrap it up in a day or two. Because i can't see myself currently sitting through another 300 episodes where half of it is just dragged out content to drag the story forwards as long as possible.

gatygun said:

My conclusions about one piece as a newcommer towards the serie is therefore, don't waste your time on it. Just youtube luffy fights and arcs and be done with it. There is practically way much filler to sit through it all.

Wait until somebody cuts it down into a more watchable experience. It would probably be better if they made a 10 piece serie of 1,5 hour each to go through everything. I could see how 1,5 hour is enough to go through every single arc without any issue. Or just skip it entirely.

Even while i wasted a metric ton of time on this serie, i still got a feeling that i will probably follow it in the long run. I will probably wait a year before 100 episodes are released so i can atleast see the end of this saga in one go, as clearly watching a single episode every weak isn't going to bring you much result in one piece at all.

But i willl drop it for now.

Anyway i'm out.

InProblematique said:


If you would please point out where, in my post, I said that childish is bad, I would be grateful. In fact, as I was getting out of the shower just now, I was coming here to amend my post to say, "so what if someone likes something lighthearted."

I have absolutely no problem with One Piece fans. As a fan of Bleach and Naruto, I dig longer manga/anime, and am actively trying to get into One Piece. Which, you know, I said. In my first post. You know, the one that you quoted. I want to like it, and since everyone tells me to stick with it, I'm doing so.

The reason I even found this thread was because I typed the question into Google. I wanted to know the opinions of people who are more familiar with One Piece on when they think it gets better, if they think it doesn't get better, etc. I read all of the responses here and felt fairly positive that it would be worth reading and watching for quite a bit longer. Which is exactly what I'm going to do.

My problem with the post I called out is the fact that it was incredibly demeaning. "This is a stupid question." No, it's not. Plenty of people ask it, and everyone here was perfectly capable of giving a civil response without calling out the intelligence of the OP.

And don't pretend that "go watch Pokemon or something" line he tossed in wasn't demeaning. It was a smack in the face to people who love anime and manga, but just don't get into one series. If I don't get into One Piece, I'm too stupid to understand, so I should just go watch Pokemon? Come on. People have different tastes. It's part of what makes manga and anime so amazing.

I was offended because I felt like he was calling out my intelligence by proxy. I wanted to know the answer to the same question, and I get to the bottom and find someone telling me it's a stupid question and I should just go watch Pokemon.

A - As you mentioned, there's nothing wrong with people who enjoy Pokemon.
B - He's the one that used it in a derogatory manner
C - I don't like people who shove people into corners with hostile answers to perfectly legitimate questions. It annoys me, because it quells debate and discussion on the matter. And since that was the last post in the thread, he obviously did a good job of quelling it for a few years.

I'm not going to sit behind a keyboard and read something that offends me and just sit here if I have a chance to say something.

I love manga and anime. I'm not judgmental of anyone that reads any medium of manga. I do, however, have problems with people who can't politely answer questions without hostile undertones the entire time.

If that makes me as bad as him, then fine. Whatever. I respect your opinion. I disagree with it, but I'm not going to sit here and call you stupid over it.

And for what it's worth, I just went through and watched Yu-Gi-Oh! (the very first series) for the first time since I was in like seventh, like 12 years ago. I will probably watch Pokemon again too. Does that make me stupid, and the subject of being called less than intelligent? If the answer to that question is yes, then I guess I should toss the bachelor's degree I have in psychology, and go ahead and call it quits on the master's degree in biology I'm currently working on.