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| This is my favorite AoT episode... so far. |
 My biggest regret: Reading all 200+ chapters of Kanojo, Okarishimasu |
KneelBeforeMe said: Zprotu said: Not even WIT's adaptation was perfect, why are y'all complaining about people having valid criticism. Dear lord grow up. This guy rates the manga and anime 10s and whines if people docks points for valid reasons.he's kinda right about the fact that people have been actively looking for things done in a poor way ever since the studio change happened, and it's getting really annoying now This right here. I skimmed his lists and 8.20, 9.06 mean scores don't exactly speak to a viewer capable of criticism. I can't imagine for the life of me that you would react so childishly if I explained to you why I gave FMAB only a 5/10. The same goes for me if you were to criticize one of my favorite series. Dealing well with opinions that don't match your own is part of anime rating after all. I love reading good reviews where counter-arguments are well elaborated. @I_Am_Freeballing 's "foaming at the mouth" overreaction is still quite funny though :D |
Emanon30Jan 30, 2022 2:36 PM
 That face and the rumbling sound... Amazing episode. 10/10 |
I_Am_Freeballing said: Emanon30 said: Gleefully hating? Jesus, what a drama queen. If a 6/10 is hate I don't want to see your childish overreactions over people's 4/10s. It's coming in here acting surprised people like it and acting like your more critical opinion is somehow more grounded. 6 is perfectly fine, your reasons for 6 aren't. I think your spectrum is a bit convoluted. 6/10 means fine. My views on image composition, staging and blocking don't support a 1/10. Is that so hard to understand? |
| Ayo, what the fuck did I just watch? What is time in Attack on Titan? Who drives this story? Who started it? Will this make any sense? Who's the bad guy here? These are all questions I'm asking myself.. I don't think Attack on Titan has gotten this complex before, wow. EDIT: I realized something. Since Grisha can see the memories of Eren, he was probably driven by his will to be free/his hatred towards the royals. Eren being there in the frame kind of tripped me into thinking that he was physically there with Grisha when he was about to take the lives of the royals, but not necessarily. However, I believe that Eren's rage was communicated to Grisha through the powers of the Attack Titan and the father was compelled by those emotions to do whatever he ended up doing. I'm literally just as shocked as Zeke right now. We have all been played by the Tatakae bastard lol. |
samashi20Jan 30, 2022 2:37 PM
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| It's a good episode but it's getting kinda hard to suspend my disbelief with the way they are wrapping the plot around. I get what's happening, Eren is the one who influences Grisha to take the path that he takes and we are seeing that happening right now as Zeke shows Eren Grisha's memories in order to to prove that he was brainwashed by Grisha. In truth, we somehow learn that Eren is the real mastermind, the Attack Titan somehow transcends time and users are able to view memories of the future inheritors of the Titan. So Grisha is driven to the path he took by none other that Eren who is the future inheritor of the Attack Titan. I guess this links into the name of the first episode as well. Nevertheless, this whole concept feels rather paradoxical and ironical for reasons I will describe. Grisha only obtained the founding titan because of Eren's interference from the future, however Eren can only obtain the Attack Titan to create this interference if Grisha goes through with the plan and eventually passes it down to him. There's a two way dependency through time which creates a paradox here. If we are to somehow assume that these events are 'predestined' to happen the way we see it in the show, then this would mean Eren is incapable of ever achieving the freedom he wants because of the fact that everything that happened was predetermined making the entire show a contradiction to it's own theme of freedom. Nevertheless I guess it's a good idea to not think too much of this and just move on and enjoy what we're given. Episode presentation was top notch as usual. |
Lelouch0202Jan 30, 2022 2:12 PM
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256k said: The good thing about Mappa redrawing the chapter 1 scenes, is that they didnt fucked up the most important part like WIT did, but hey, keep praising WIT, there's still a BIGGER mistake to see, and that one will affect only to anime viewers thanks to WIT and their crappy adaptation Haythemdbara said: just a humble question why was grisha clearly looking at the old eren while addressing to the younger one in this scene? i checked the original scene from the first episode but grisha's face didn't even show It is shown, as a mistake, for just 1 second, Grisha looks to kid Eren on WIT adaptation, then the scene of the key appears  What about the Mikasa dream panel in chapter 1? That was also omitted in WIT's adaption and plays a crucial part later on. |
| Attack on Titan is the Best Anime in History, is there still anyone objecting? |
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| Damn! Grisha’s VA did a fantastic job in the second half of the episode! |
| This episode completely shocked me, So all along it was actually Eren who was telling Grisha to do what he did?! If so, Then everything that happened was all orchestrated by Eren since the start. I'm still trying to grasp it, Its such a baffling twist. |
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Bowman145 said: Damn! Grisha’s VA did a fantastic job in the second half of the episode! Hard agree. But Grisha's vocie acting was even before top notch. Remember his scream at Zeke's dissapointing military performance? |
256k said: @Emanon30 Didn't wanted to say what you just said on purpose, but yes, that's the scene i'm saying ^^U Got you. I think I was ominous enough. Since WIT skipped it in the first episode, I think MAPPA has to correct that. At least I hope they will. |
| Well, how can i say it.... the episode itself was incredible (duh) but the animation/art really ruined my enjoyment, especially in the second half, Eren and Grisha looked really weird most of the time. This might be the first season 4 episode which i struggled to like, part 1 never had issues like this. It's a shame since this is one of my favourite manga chapters but what's done is done. On a more positive note the preview looks actually pretty good. |
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| Never liked this plot twist tbh, story was fine without it and adding time magic does nothing but mess up a story. Glad other people like it tho, they adapted it really well |
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| wow each episode is getting better and better!!! (while also feeling shorter and shorter in length lol) so shocked to hear that the attack titan's power is to see into the future, like holy cow??????? this whole time????? grisha could see/hear future eren????? so eren had basically been the mastermind this whole time???? this whole time??????????????? im itching to rewatch the series from the start because ive forgotten so much stuff and from what ive read in other comments, theyve been hinting at stuff in past seasons (which has usually just gone over my head) |
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| Almost cried when grisha told zeke he loved him... |
256k said: amagirinomikoto said: wow each episode is getting better and better!!! (while also feeling shorter and shorter in length lol) so shocked to hear that the attack titan's power is to see into the future, like holy cow??????? this whole time????? grisha could see/hear future eren????? so eren had basically been the mastermind this whole time???? this whole time??????????????? im itching to rewatch the series from the start because ive forgotten so much stuff and from what ive read in other comments, theyve been hinting at stuff in past seasons (which has usually just gone over my head) Make yourself a favour, instead of doing that, read at least the chapter 1 of the manga, you'll thank me later, WIT fucked up the most important thing as i proved a few post before you funnily enough, i was actually just considering going and reading the beginning of the manga! will definitely go read the first chapter now that you said so! :) |
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| TATAKAE. Eren revolution!! Guy did the timeline dirty. |
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Emanon30 said: I_Am_Freeballing said: It's coming in here acting surprised people like it and acting like your more critical opinion is somehow more grounded. 6 is perfectly fine, your reasons for 6 aren't. I think your spectrum is a bit convoluted. 6/10 means fine. My views on image composition, staging and blocking don't support a 1/10. Is that so hard to understand? 6/10 is fine? Did you read that in a MAL guidebook? My spectrum is convoluted? More like you're following the textbook scoring. Anything from 1-7 is trash in reality. Noone actually cares for the nuanced differences between a 4 and 5 or between a 5 and 6. You think someone looks at a series with a score of 6 and goes: ''Oh, this is fine. Might as well check it out.''? I still stand by what I said in my original post. You're scoring this as if you were a judge, and a one not easily impressed at that. Which is fine and all but don't come in here and be like ''Oh my God what is all this praise for something I clearly view as 'fine'? Surely everyone must be making a mistake. These people rating it a 10 lack critical skills. Ew.'' No, I recognize the episode has flaws, but I still rate it a 10 because it still deserves it in my mind despite said flaws. Rating it a 6 is fine, but stop acting as if your judgment of the series is superior to others. That's what triggered me. |
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| OMG this episode was nothing but amazing!!! Truly did justice to the manga. 1000/10 |
Mess with waifu, lose your laifu |
| The chapter starts off quiet, but then...DAMN. Very good chapter |
I_Am_Freeballing said: Emanon30 said: I think your spectrum is a bit convoluted. 6/10 means fine. My views on image composition, staging and blocking don't support a 1/10. Is that so hard to understand? 6/10 is fine? Did you read that in a MAL guidebook? My spectrum is convoluted? More like you're following the textbook scoring. Anything from 1-7 is trash in reality. Noone actually cares for the nuanced differences between a 4 and 5 or between a 5 and 6. You think someone looks at a series with a score of 6 and goes: ''Oh, this is fine. Might as well check it out.''? I still stand by what I said in my original post. You're scoring this as if you were a judge, and a one not easily impressed at that. Which is fine and all but don't come in here and be like ''Oh my God what is all this praise for something I clearly view as 'fine'? Surely everyone must be making a mistake. These people rating it a 10 lack critical skills. Ew.'' No, I recognize the episode has flaws, but I still rate it a 10 because it still deserves it in my mind despite said flaws. Rating it a 6 is fine, but stop acting as if your judgment of the series is superior to others. That's what triggered me. Ah, the "7 is actually average" argument. Oh boy... "That's what triggered me." Yeah, we can tell you're really triggered. From "My spectrum is convoluted?" to "Anything from 1-7 is trash in reality". Hilarious :D Let me go back and change my 8/10 for the manga, and my 10/10 for Part 2 of Season 3 to a 1/10 like you suggested earlier^^ |
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Emanon30 said: I_Am_Freeballing said: 6/10 is fine? Did you read that in a MAL guidebook? My spectrum is convoluted? More like you're following the textbook scoring. Anything from 1-7 is trash in reality. Noone actually cares for the nuanced differences between a 4 and 5 or between a 5 and 6. You think someone looks at a series with a score of 6 and goes: ''Oh, this is fine. Might as well check it out.''? I still stand by what I said in my original post. You're scoring this as if you were a judge, and a one not easily impressed at that. Which is fine and all but don't come in here and be like ''Oh my God what is all this praise for something I clearly view as 'fine'? Surely everyone must be making a mistake. These people rating it a 10 lack critical skills. Ew.'' No, I recognize the episode has flaws, but I still rate it a 10 because it still deserves it in my mind despite said flaws. Rating it a 6 is fine, but stop acting as if your judgment of the series is superior to others. That's what triggered me. Ah, the "7 is actually average" argument. Oh boy... "That's what triggered me." Yeah, we can tell you're really triggered. From "My spectrum is convoluted?" to "Anything from 1-7 is trash in reality". Hilarious :D Let me go back and change my 8/10 for the manga, and my 10/10 for Part 2 of Season 3 to a 1/10 like you suggested earlier^^ Just make sure to calculate everything so you don't make a mistake in rating. This is official business after all. Wouldn't want you mistakenly rating this season a 7. That would make it a whooping 'good'. |
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I_Am_Freeballing said: Emanon30 said: Ah, the "7 is actually average" argument. Oh boy... "That's what triggered me." Yeah, we can tell you're really triggered. From "My spectrum is convoluted?" to "Anything from 1-7 is trash in reality". Hilarious :D Let me go back and change my 8/10 for the manga, and my 10/10 for Part 2 of Season 3 to a 1/10 like you suggested earlier^^ Just make sure to calculate everything so you don't make a mistake in rating. This is official business after all. Wouldn't want you mistakenly rating this season a 7. That would make it a whooping 'good'. You're so salty :DD Your assumptions and strawman arguments are pretty cute. |
| I didn't really care for the last couple episodes much since I'm not much of a fan of anything past the S3P2 point in both anime and manga with the direction of the story, but MAPPA did a solid job with executing these two episodes at least for most anime-only fans to enjoy. My mates watching this episode online with me who were anime-onlys were pretty hyped and emotional overall surrounding me so they did their job in that aspect and it mostly worked. I don't have much to add on the matter myself but for the people surrounding me who didn't read the manga at all, it was nice seeing them be that invested in the last 2 episodes together. |
| One word: "Amazing" So great to finally see it animated. OUTSTANDING VOICE ACTING BY GRISHA'S VA, SO GOOOOOD!! |
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| So they copied the whole plot twist from Interstellar. Wow, Isayama is a great mangaka. |
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Rhaegar0 said: So they copied the whole plot twist from Interstellar. Wow, Isayama is a great mangaka. No, they copied it from DARK. |
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| Damn that was one hell of an episode. Eren really is a dark manipulator after all |
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I_Am_Freeballing said: Rhaegar0 said: So they copied the whole plot twist from Interstellar. Wow, Isayama is a great mangaka. No, they copied it from DARK. Thanks for spoiling, I haven't watched Dark yet, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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Rhaegar0 said: So they copied the whole plot twist from Interstellar. Wow, Isayama is a great mangaka. Thanks for spoiling, I haven't watched Interstellar yet, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| Holy sh*t, this episode looked like ass, in some parts it was downright comical and i almost laughed, that's how bad it was. I guess you could say Mappa outdid itself this time. It's crazy how so many people fail to see the extremely awkward presentation of this episode, not even the first part was this bad, how could they let such talentless hacks direct this anime is beyond me, what a disgrace. |
| Eren be pulling the reverse cards real hard in last parts of episode, i suppose the shit is gonna get real from now on. Also is just me that thought frieda is eren the first time she appeared this ep? |
| After last week's directorial tour de force this felt like a bit of a step backwards if I'm being honest, strictly from an adaptational standpoint. Lots of still frames and rather bland staging in the first 16 or so minutes. Luckily, the content is still strong enough on its own to carry the episode through. Grisha's voice actor steals the spotlight once again, elevating his breakdown scene beyond what the manga was able to convey. Great stuff. I'm very disappointed by how they handled the hand-kiss, however. The way it's framed in the manga makes it an ominous, ever looming presence juxtaposed on top of the murder of the royal family. The moment that solidified Eren's descent down this path, when he went from the boy in the first 3 seasons to the person we're witnessing right now. Here, it's given zero pomp and circumstance, a short glimpse that'll likely feel unimportant to anime-onlies. I have no doubt that Omine would've framed this scene with the gravity it demanded, considering the brilliant artistic touches and pacing he infused the previous episode with. This week's episode could've really used that kind of authorial intent to emphasize its dreamlike state and slow descent into nightmare. That said, it was still a solid adaptation with some highlights towards the back half and a great episode by itself. That entire sequence from "stand up, dad" forwards was outstanding. Grisha's apology to Zeke hits much harder here than in the manga. Here's hoping that more of that energy carries through to the next episode, which should be the highlight of the season... Though I would argue a certain pair of chapters later on have even higher potential, but they're significantly more complicated to pull off, so let's hope Mappa's production pipeline doesn't crumble under its own weight again by then. |
Haythemdbara said: just a humble question why was grisha clearly looking at the old eren while addressing to the younger one in this scene? i checked the original scene from the first episode but grisha's face didn't even show   I think it was obvious enough, but i will mark it as spoiler just in case |
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