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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Seems like Runge played that psychiatrist into confirming Tenma's whereabouts although for some reason I can't help but like the guy, I just wonder what he's thinking now considering he's just received even more info on Johan. |
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| I wonder if Runge will ever listen to reason. I really hope he meets Johan at Munich, so he can finally understand who the real criminal is (though I don't think such thing will happen this soon, maybe in the late 50s or 60s episodes). |
| Runge is really an antagonist in this series, so we can't help about him changing to a protagonist. The only one who can help Tenma is Nina, no other one. |
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| Runge is an idiot. He's stubborn as hell. |
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| Runge is a douchebag. Too stubborn. Though perhaps he is going to think about Johan as another suspect. I doubt it. |
| I couldn't help, but laugh at Lunge. He just won't give up XD Though I really wonder what he'll do with the photo of Johan or if Lunge will change his mind after meeting him. |
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| Even tho Gillen gave a good statement about why Tenma's not the killer, and even though he analized every single aspect and characteristics of the personality of Runge in front of his eyes... HE JUST WONT GIVE UP. Jesus mother fucking Christ, Runge pisses me off really hard. I hate that kind of personality. |
| I thought Runge might've finally accepted that Tenma was innocent but he just used the psychiatrist for information |
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| Whenever a close-up of Runge's ugly face appears I get the strongest urge to just punt my computer through a wall. I hate him that much. I hope he meets Johann very soon. I'm sick of seeing his face. >.> |
| I was right about Runge's mind. As explained by Dr Gillen. Runge just can't make a mistake. The thing that he is trying to capture Tenma himself is a proof of that. He used to say that he solved the case and that it is police work to find and arrest him. But it seems that Runge has a doubt now, that he might not be correct at solving this particular case. That is why he is after Tenma. To prove himself that he was actually right. He seems calm on the outside, but his inner world is a disaster now. His logical side is in grave conflict with his personality. And the big day is coming for Tenma. He is so determined to fix his mistake when he saved Johan from death. But will he be able to actually kill Johan? Murdering , means killing yourself. But what IS murder? It is an act when a human being kills another human being. Can we consider Johan being a human being? He is a monster no doubt. And Tenma is aware of this fact. But another fact could give birth to uncertainty in Tenma's mind. Johan is a schizophrenic. Only one side of him is monster. There is a human being somewhere deep inside of him. But then again, that is what Johan himself "said". There is no actual proof. It could all be a scheme to prevent Tenma from killing him. I would be sure about that 100% if not for another fact. He asked his sister to shoot him in the head before arriving at Tenma's hospital. If we do not think of a logical reason why Johan, being a monster, asked to do that, we cannot claim that he is not a schizophrenic. |
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| I wish the above poster would stop referring to Johan as a schizophrenic. There has been nothing in the show to indicate that he has schizophrenia, and your ignorance about psychological issues is baffling. You can't just start calling peoples' mental issues schizophrenia. If the show has pointed in any direction to a mental disorder, it points to DID, Dissociative Identity Disorder, or multiple personalities in laymen's terms. I guess you're going to do this for every episode. |
| Every time I see an English-speaker on the Internet add an honorific to someone's name, I die a little bit inside. Every time I see, "^_^," my will to carry on crumbles that much more. |
| does anyone call the cops in this show? if i was reichwein, i would've demanded a police escort outside my house and office. |
| First time in broad day light! |
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| Though Runge's stubbornness can be annoying. I just can't help but like the guy |
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| hm things seem to be getting more interesting i wonder if this will get more complecated also those cope really stink to not be able to catch tenma |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| i wanna stab runge |
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| Runge is awesome. Glad to have both him and Tenma back. This arc has finally picked up. |
| Ehh, Runge is back. Don;t know what to think about him anymore. |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| im annoyed at how no matter how much info runge is given saying tenma is innocent and johon did it...he straight out wont listen....his character now officially annoys me... the pyschologist fell easily into runge's lies |
SickeninglySweetJun 18, 2011 4:15 PM
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| It's funny how Lunge keeps thinking Tenma's the criminal. |
| i hate runge |
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| Runge is now officially obsessed. He no longer listens to objective reasoning. And I loved Dr. Reichwein's dossiers of distinguished personalities who have been his patients. Wim Wenders, Werner Herzog and Natasja Kinski amongst others. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| I have to say, I somewhat like Lunge now. He's just so manipulative, it's cool XD I don't know how he still suspects Tenma though. Must be his pride. And wow, Johan's face always makes me jump >.< |
Mikiyo said: Even tho Gillen gave a good statement about why Tenma's not the killer, and even though he analized every single aspect and characteristics of the personality of Runge in front of his eyes... HE JUST WONT GIVE UP. Jesus mother fucking Christ, Runge pisses me off really hard. I hate that kind of personality. This!!! I hope he dies by Johan's hand realizing he was wrong! ¬¬ |
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| Yeah runge should have listened, his personality was spot on by Gillen, which is why I'm not sure why Gillen told him where Tenma was, he should have known that one picture wouldn't be enough to change Runge's mind... Oh well. |
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| Man, Gillen couldn't have hit the nail on the head any better with Lunge. That guy is stubborn as hell. When Lunge said he was going to find Johan I thought, "Good, maybe the little bastard will make you jump off a roof too." Oh, and shame on you Gillen, for letting that nut know where Tenma was. |
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| That conversation between Lunge and Gillen was excellent. |
| Nice episode and Lunge. :3 About Episode: I feel bad for dieter that he reall cares about Tenma and don't want to be his becoming Monster too. But fact is Johan is bad man and bad man has to be erased from world. So I understand why Tenma has rage for Johan. Looks like Dr. and Rudy has same kind of thinking system like they understand others feelings and thoughts. Also about Lunge and Rudy's talk it's good that now Rudy explained that he needs to stop thinking about Tenma is suspect but Innocent. Also now when Lunge saw Johan's picture I am pretty sure he only tries to catch up with Tenma and he wants to heard Tenma to more information about Johan. It's also true that Lunge have never ever made mistakes because that shaking hand device.But now when someone mentioned that he is doubtful which is why I think he will help Tenma. 5/5 |
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| Runge is really stubborn, even a child would understand that all those deaths surrounding Johan can't be a coincidence. |
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| I wonder when is Lunge going to realize that even he can make a mistake. But at least he got some evidence that proves that Johann does exist and Tenma is not delusional. |
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| I forsee Runge completely losing his mind. |
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| I can see why people hate Lunge but I'm not really one to dislike characters too much. Without Lunge, it wouldn't be as epic anyways. I like his tenacity. One thing I thought was lame in this episode was how Rudy actually fell for it and gave up Tenma's location. Then again, he does want Tenma to fight for his innocence and doesn't want him to kill so him getting caught could help him. Second time watching this series and loving it. |
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| Another great episode! Did you know that all of the other case files that Dr. Reichwein had when he was looking for "Richard D. Braun's" were all of real German actors and directors? What a different cameo! Now, the only one I recognized without looking each one up was Werner Herzog, and after knowing more about him, it wouldn't surprise me if he did seek counseling. :P Keep pursuing your dreams! ~ Wynn |
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| another amazing episode(despite being slow) shame they didn't show how Tenma and Reichwein escape from Roberto. and wow Tenma is getting more and more depress as more episodes comes by :P tbh i don't know why you people hating on Lunge. he's just a persistent person who wants to be right. plus he's also calculative and when he sets his sights on a target he never let's go. he doesn't care if Tenma is innocent, he just want to point an evidence that he did a crime so he could arrest him. Gillet is also smart since he's a top psychiatrist and that's why he was able to deduce why Lunge is tapping his fingers like that in a second! so that's why Gilet is also fond about his casset tapes :P also anyone find it creepy when Tenma was looking at the TV screen it seems Johan was looking back at him!! next episode is gonna be intense! |
| It seems Dr. Reichwein is into movies, lol http://i.imgur.com/TPXgmjU.png Anyway. I haven't commented on Monster in a while, but this is growing a lot on me and the characters are very well-defined at this point... ...I like Lunge. In part because I can't help but believe that he will eventually side with Tenma, on the other hand because his role as an antagonist to me trascends the simple stubbornness. It has come to a point where searching for Tenma is more of a self-defining issue than anything else, for some reason he has made this hunt the only purpose in his life. I hope this will be explored rather soon. |
jal90Oct 19, 2013 12:16 AM
| Runge... *facepalm* |
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| I love lunge XD |
| EL PSY KONGROO!!! |
| Mr. giller told runge about himself. Lol. The stubborn bastard -,- |
 As of now, please try to refrain from looking at MAL. its a complete mess right now T-T People of anime have whooped, roasted, beaten, and tamed my ass. I have learned my ways and will never speak that horrible word. But, believe me, MY DAY OF VENGEANCE SHALL COME(please dont take this seriously, just "trying" to be funny lol |
| Fuck Lunge -_- Hope Johan kills him! |
| ''We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?'' - Uchiha Itachi |
| Gillen read Lunge like an open book but he's still stuck in his own delusions. Lunge is actually a pretty competent detective but when it comes to Tenma he throws all logic out of the window. |
| lunge is disgusting. he doesn't care about justice or the crime, he has made that clear. he's simply obsessed with tenma and wants to not be mistaken, as the psychologist implied. hopefully him being in possession of that photo gets him killed. |
| Funny enough, Lunge would probably have even more fun chasing Johann. But wow! Seeing Johann on TV... so exposed to the public is so weird. We've been following his shadow for so long. Only half-way through the series!! |
| i loved it when lunge was the one getting analyised, what dr Giller said was so true. And were was lunge when johan freaking appeared on TV >.< |
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| I just hate Lunge.. very stubborn. |
| I like Gillen's analysis of Lunge. In the end Lunge outplayed him, however, and is as stubborn as ever. I can't help but wonder if he has a doubt lingering now. No matter how stubborn he is, the logical side of him should have raised some sort of yellow flag. It's annoying because he's the only one who has a legitimate/moral means of stopping Johan. Still, he is a good as a character. I'm not quite as sure whether Tenma's confrontation with Johan will happen after that preview. |
| Runge is just pathetic. I can see him being used by Johann. |
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