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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Alma D: his physical body is broken literally. Also interesting to learn about the origins of Alma's soul. I like how they adapted that segment with a lot of emotions and better animation than the previous episode. The feels...I also kinda like how Allen went to attack the Millennium Earl. Kanda and Alma's relationship has been very intense and I think this episode expressed their friendship at its conclusion. And about time Howard Link arrives to help! |
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| Kanda holding Alma tightly like that as he died had me bawling. Especially after he said he loved him. Fuck... This is too sad for my lil' gay heart. I hope their soul was saved and can move on now. Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Alma D: his physical body is broken literally. Also interesting to learn about the origins of Alma's soul. I like how they adapted that segment with a lot of emotions and better animation than the previous episode. The feels...I also kinda like how Allen went to attack the Millennium Earl. Kanda and Alma's relationship has been very intense and I think this episode expressed their friendship at its conclusion. And about time Howard Link arrives to help! Why do you always do this...? It's not just friendship! I bet if Alma's soul wasn't in a male body it wouldn't be a problem for you to acknowledge, right? The thing I like about this is that a soul is a soul no matter what body it happens to be in. Kanda and Alma loved each other, despite being both males in this life, despite not even being both human at the end. Their love surpassed everything. |
TyrelAug 30, 2016 12:52 AM
| So Alma was Kanda's lover, or at least her soul. |
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| One of the better episodes of this season despite the inconsistent animation quality. I've read all of the manga, and I can honestly say that I'm impressed how they managed to address such a large amount of material into just one episode. To be totally frank, I feel this could have been split into two episodes, to create more feels (Alma death is in fact peak of the arc). What worries me is their fast pace. Knowing there's four episodes, tells me they could have done a more thorough job on some of the chapters of this particular arc. I'm not sure where they're going to end - but honestly, I would have expected this scene to be the 12. or 13. episode. *For manga readers* Would any manga readers that are up-to-date like to message me on their opinions so far? All in all 4/5 episode. Not 5/5 because animation quality was a bit off at times (due to budget) and rushed a bit. |
| Very good episode, Much better than last week's animations. I'm really glad they kept the OST for the show, That slow piano of the the fourteenth's song in the beginning was beautiful. Alma's death after Yuu learns he(she) was the person he was searching for is really sad :( Probably one of the rare moments where we see Yuu thanking Allen. I really like what Allen did for Alma and Yuu even though it puts his own position in the order at risk, Very respectable of him to do what he did. Based on the PV I guess we'll probably see the anime end around chapter 205. Maybe a little extra but I'd say 205 would be the best place to end it. |
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Literally WHAT DID YOU SMOKE ????? The animation was way worse than previous episodes, it was terrible, no.. that doesn't even begin to describe it, it was disgusting. |
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Hatsuyuki said: Animation was better compared to last week. Last week 1/2 or more were just zoomed in backgrounds with another added layer adding the "lightning effect". This week episode atleast didn't had much static images in the animation(still alot, but much less compared to last week).Literally WHAT DID YOU SMOKE ????? The animation was way worse than previous episodes, it was terrible, no.. that doesn't even begin to describe it, it was disgusting. |
| RiP Alma Karma, poor Yu got it so damn tough in this episode :< |
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| Oh man. So hyped for what comes next. Animation... was better than last week. Good episode nonetheless. |
TyrelAug 29, 2016 3:43 PM
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| GOOOOOOOD, THAT WAS AWESOME!!!! I NEED MORE!! The twist about Kalma's soul was great, i totally loved it!!! Though it made me cry a bit... Buuuut, i can't say that i totally understand why Kanda and Kalma fought in the previous episode.... |
| I think it was pretty good, at least much better than previous one. Didn't get me really into the feels probably cause of manga and i think it felt longer when i was reading. |
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| Th Hatsuyuki said: these were fast moments.... U shoukd take a still scene insteadLiterally WHAT DID YOU SMOKE ????? The animation was way worse than previous episodes, it was terrible, no.. that doesn't even begin to describe it, it was disgusting. |
| Amazing episode even though the animation still pretty bad compared to a couple weeks ago. Really curious to where they'll end the anime at now, I expected this content to be in the 12th episode or so |
| I like anime. |
UchihaPower said: Amazing episode even though the animation still pretty bad compared to a couple weeks ago. Really curious to where they'll end the anime at now, I expected this content to be in the 12th episode or so Well I posted this on another site for the 2 ways it can end -as a manga reader. I see it ending on 205 or 208. One of these chapters. |
SilverWolf442Aug 29, 2016 4:57 PM
| I´m really glad the animation was better. The soundtrack nailed it! They played instrumental "tsunaida te ni kiss wo" and "lala no komori uta" perfectly. Alma........ Oh my god, Alma..... I cried in this episode. I love this mayo dork as much as I love Kanda. Their reunion is just... I can´t. |
| "Could you not talk with me? I'm busy breathing." |
| Those Alma x Kanda feels were done well, soundtrack 10/10. The rest was rough, but oh my god the hype is coming. |
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| That was an emotional episode. Didn't expect that twist with Alma's soul. |
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| I loved it! The emotions were captured amazingly well. I especially like the parallel between Lala's story and Kanda's. Her lullaby was even there. It was beautifully done, imo. Jotakak said: Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Alma D: his physical body is broken literally. Also interesting to learn about the origins of Alma's soul. I like how they adapted that segment with a lot of emotions and better animation than the previous episode. The feels...I also kinda like how Allen went to attack the Millennium Earl. Kanda and Alma's relationship has been very intense and I think this episode expressed their friendship at its conclusion. And about time Howard Link arrives to help! Why do you always do this...? It's not just friendship! I bet if Alma's soul wasn't in a male body it wouldn't be a problem for you to acknowledge, right? The thing I like about this is that a soul is a soul no matter what body it happens to be in. Kanda and Alma loved each other, despite being both males in this life, despite not even being both human at the end. Their love surpassed everything. I'm gonna have to agree with OP. It was just a friendship in Kanda's and Alma's lifetime. In the past they were lovers. But that was then and this is now. Their current connection and love for each other has everything to do what they went through together and nothing to do with a past they partially remember (I'll admit it probably helped). Nothing about their current lives suggests that their relationship was romantic. Even the "I love you" felt like an expression between dear friends. And I really liked that aspect. I think the storytelling was very clear that, yes they had a previous life that connected them, but they have their own lives now. What connected them in the present wasn't their past lives, but the hardships and circumstances they faced together. The fact that their previous souls (or past life?) could be put to rest knowing the end of their lover was enough for both of them. So while I understand your position about their relationship, I disagree. Not because I can't acknowledge a gay relationship, but because there's not really much there to suggest that they had those kinds of feelings for each other in their current life. I agree that they love each other deeply, but to so much as say that it's romantic is too much of stretch for me. To each their own, I suppose. |
Nea_ said: I loved it! The emotions were captured amazingly well. I especially like the parallel between Lala's story and Kanda's. Her lullaby was even there. It was beautifully done, imo. Jotakak said: Why do you always do this...? It's not just friendship! I bet if Alma's soul wasn't in a male body it wouldn't be a problem for you to acknowledge, right? The thing I like about this is that a soul is a soul no matter what body it happens to be in. Kanda and Alma loved each other, despite being both males in this life, despite not even being both human at the end. Their love surpassed everything. I'm gonna have to agree with OP. It was just a friendship in Kanda's and Alma's lifetime. In the past they were lovers. But that was then and this is now. Their current connection and love for each other has everything to do what they went through together and nothing to do with a past they partially remember (I'll admit it probably helped). Nothing about their current lives suggests that their relationship was romantic. Even the "I love you" felt like an expression between dear friends. And I really liked that aspect. I think the storytelling was very clear that, yes they had a previous life that connected them, but they have their own lives now. What connected them in the present wasn't their past lives, but the hardships and circumstances they faced together. The fact that their previous souls (or past life?) could be put to rest knowing the end of their lover was enough for both of them. So while I understand your position about their relationship, I disagree. Not because I can't acknowledge a gay relationship, but because there's not really much there to suggest that they had those kinds of feelings for each other in their current life. I agree that they love each other deeply, but to so much as say that it's romantic is too much of stretch for me. To each their own, I suppose. This is the most ridiculous bullshit I've seen anyone say in regards to Kanda's and Alma's past together, even from back when I read this arc in the manga years back. They were lovers and the whole point was to show it transcending their original lives into this one. Everything about them laying there, with Alma dying was supposed to be portrayed as romantic. They are still the same souls that loved each other in their past life, and that love continued on to the point where Kanda was willing to search for his lover forever until he found out it was Alma. |
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Aiko_Hiroshi said: Nea_ said: I loved it! The emotions were captured amazingly well. I especially like the parallel between Lala's story and Kanda's. Her lullaby was even there. It was beautifully done, imo. I'm gonna have to agree with OP. It was just a friendship in Kanda's and Alma's lifetime. In the past they were lovers. But that was then and this is now. Their current connection and love for each other has everything to do what they went through together and nothing to do with a past they partially remember (I'll admit it probably helped). Nothing about their current lives suggests that their relationship was romantic. Even the "I love you" felt like an expression between dear friends. And I really liked that aspect. I think the storytelling was very clear that, yes they had a previous life that connected them, but they have their own lives now. What connected them in the present wasn't their past lives, but the hardships and circumstances they faced together. The fact that their previous souls (or past life?) could be put to rest knowing the end of their lover was enough for both of them. So while I understand your position about their relationship, I disagree. Not because I can't acknowledge a gay relationship, but because there's not really much there to suggest that they had those kinds of feelings for each other in their current life. I agree that they love each other deeply, but to so much as say that it's romantic is too much of stretch for me. To each their own, I suppose. This is the most ridiculous bullshit I've seen anyone say in regards to Kanda's and Alma's past together, even from back when I read this arc in the manga years back. They were lovers and the whole point was to show it transcending their original lives into this one. Everything about them laying there, with Alma dying was supposed to be portrayed as romantic. They are still the same souls that loved each other in their past life, and that love continued on to the point where Kanda was willing to search for his lover forever until he found out it was Alma. Thank you. The two of them might have different bodies, but their souls are the same. |
| The emotions on this episode was successfully executed I love evry moment of it |
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| Omg Alma and kanda together 😭😭😭😭 |
| A new rendition of the 14th's Melody at the beginning. Its been years since I've heard that song. Loving the nostalgia trip from the old OST. Is that Cross Marian's voice coming out of Timcanpy!? Kanda with the Grey hair looks horrendous but Allen looking like a Noah is awesome! This is really tragic. Each passing episode makes me feel more and more depressed over Kanda and Alma's situation. I knew he sounded so familiar with little dialogue Krory gets. I loved that Kanda called Allen Bean Sprout in telephathy before reviving himself. He finally called Allen by his full name! I'm not sure if this ever happened before! Just looked it up, but the VA for Arystar is done by the VA for Sasuke Uchiha...That part should've gone to Kanda instead. Though I'm actually perfectly fine with the current VA for Kanda but I feel Sugiyama could do it better and the personality of Kanda/Sasuke is similar. Sugiyama fits Arystar as well so I'm not bothered by it. I still can't get use to fucking Lavi's voice though. It's awful. Fucking Link and Rouvelier are easily the biggest cunts of the series and they haven't even been in this series for that long. If my memory serves me right, I believe they showed up around episode 95 out of 104(I think?) of the 1st series. Meaning that in less than 20 episodes, they are easily more of an antagonists than the Earl and Noah. 3/5 -Felt like this arc was rushed. I believe it was 2 Arcs in 5-6 episodes? Not too sure, again, I'm going off memory which is very poor. The farewell animation for Kanda and Alma was underwhelming and left a lot to be desired. I lost my shit when I saw Chaozii floating in the water like that. God that was awful artwork. They made a grimm situation turn into unintentional comedy. I'm having PTSD of Mayoiga... |
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Aiko_Hiroshi said: Nea_ said: I loved it! The emotions were captured amazingly well. I especially like the parallel between Lala's story and Kanda's. Her lullaby was even there. It was beautifully done, imo. I'm gonna have to agree with OP. It was just a friendship in Kanda's and Alma's lifetime. In the past they were lovers. But that was then and this is now. Their current connection and love for each other has everything to do what they went through together and nothing to do with a past they partially remember (I'll admit it probably helped). Nothing about their current lives suggests that their relationship was romantic. Even the "I love you" felt like an expression between dear friends. And I really liked that aspect. I think the storytelling was very clear that, yes they had a previous life that connected them, but they have their own lives now. What connected them in the present wasn't their past lives, but the hardships and circumstances they faced together. The fact that their previous souls (or past life?) could be put to rest knowing the end of their lover was enough for both of them. So while I understand your position about their relationship, I disagree. Not because I can't acknowledge a gay relationship, but because there's not really much there to suggest that they had those kinds of feelings for each other in their current life. I agree that they love each other deeply, but to so much as say that it's romantic is too much of stretch for me. To each their own, I suppose. This is the most ridiculous bullshit I've seen anyone say in regards to Kanda's and Alma's past together, even from back when I read this arc in the manga years back. They were lovers and the whole point was to show it transcending their original lives into this one. Everything about them laying there, with Alma dying was supposed to be portrayed as romantic. They are still the same souls that loved each other in their past life, and that love continued on to the point where Kanda was willing to search for his lover forever until he found out it was Alma. I'm really glad we can respect each other's opinions of a relationship that was not explicitly stated to be either romantic or platonic. Haha. But you didn't do that so.... Anyway, I still don't agree. Even when I read the manga, I didn't get that romantic feel to it. If anything the bond they had reminded me of Ed and Al's relationship. The experiments were something I interpreted as being like an artificial reincarnation. So the soul is the same but the life is different. It reminded me of the idea that twins are reincarnated lovers (most twins aren't incestuous, but they do have a deep bond that's different from normal siblings) So I took their relationship differently than some. Clearly. But I guess my interpretation is bull because differences....? I'm not sure. |
Nea_Aug 30, 2016 3:42 AM
SilverWolf442 said: Well I posted this on another site for the 2 ways it can end -as a manga reader. I see it ending on 205 or 208. One of these chapters. Well, I have some other thoughts on this. Since at least 2-3 chapters are animated in one episode, I do think that |
Nea_ said: Aiko_Hiroshi said: This is the most ridiculous bullshit I've seen anyone say in regards to Kanda's and Alma's past together, even from back when I read this arc in the manga years back. They were lovers and the whole point was to show it transcending their original lives into this one. Everything about them laying there, with Alma dying was supposed to be portrayed as romantic. They are still the same souls that loved each other in their past life, and that love continued on to the point where Kanda was willing to search for his lover forever until he found out it was Alma. I'm really glad we can respect each other's opinions of a relationship that was not explicitly stated to be either romantic or platonic. Haha. But you didn't do that so.... Anyway, I still don't agree. Even when I read the manga, I didn't get that romantic feel to it. If anything the bond they had reminded me of Ed and Al's relationship. The experiments were something I interpreted as being like an artificial reincarnation. So the soul is the same but the life is different. It reminded me of the idea that twins are reincarnated lovers (most twins aren't incestuous, but they do have a deep bond that's different from normal siblings) So I took their relationship differently than some. Clearly. But I guess my interpretation is bull because differences....? I'm not sure. Here's the way I see it, if Alma were female after reincarnation would we even have this discussion or know it's romantic? My bet's on the later. I guess I can see where people are coming from when they think it's friendship, but I sure don't hold my friends that way. About the rest of the episode, I cried like a baby just like I did in the manga. |
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| They adapted the death of Alma well despite the art being sloppy as times. That part was better in the manga imo, but, well, at least the voice acting helped. Judging by the preview of the next episode, now it's 100 confirmed this will end during the I'm a bit concerned about that, since with 4 episodes to air, and how short the arc is, I hope they don't drag it out too much. |
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| Awww I cried!! End really liked the scene when Kanda thanks Allen and finaly says his name in acknowledgement...I guess it was easy to see coming, but still liked it. |
PaladinAlchemist said: Nea_ said: I'm really glad we can respect each other's opinions of a relationship that was not explicitly stated to be either romantic or platonic. Haha. But you didn't do that so.... Anyway, I still don't agree. Even when I read the manga, I didn't get that romantic feel to it. If anything the bond they had reminded me of Ed and Al's relationship. The experiments were something I interpreted as being like an artificial reincarnation. So the soul is the same but the life is different. It reminded me of the idea that twins are reincarnated lovers (most twins aren't incestuous, but they do have a deep bond that's different from normal siblings) So I took their relationship differently than some. Clearly. But I guess my interpretation is bull because differences....? I'm not sure. Here's the way I see it, if Alma were female after reincarnation would we even have this discussion or know it's romantic? My bet's on the later. I guess I can see where people are coming from when they think it's friendship, but I sure don't hold my friends that way. About the rest of the episode, I cried like a baby just like I did in the manga. I would still question it. Regardless of gender, I can't see it as romantic. Plus he was dying so...I would probably cradle a friend in my arms too (more than likely a family member since I don't have close friends). I'm a believer in platonic physical affection and so are other cultures. Two grown men holding hands in some places is simply a sign of friendship. Hence my stance. Consequently, I'm starting to question what romantic love is and where the line is drawn between platonic and romantic love. It's been a thoughtful morning. But whatever. I get that I hold an unpopular opinion. I just don't appreciate it when someone discredits my opinion because of reasons. Especially when I didn't do the same. It's insulting. |
| this was amazing and alot of emotions were conveyed |
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| I really miss the old animation from season 1, I'm greatful that dgm is back, but HATE the animation so much, but even so I enjoying watching. Ep. 09 OMG Nea killing me every time. I LOVE his voice and the way he talks. Nea's scene are most precious, really enjoying s2 because of that. The 14th's Melody as background music, aaahh miss it so much <3 when I hear it I become to feel warm miss the old days of dgm. Alma and Yuu <3 I cried, there scene was so touching. And I love the background music during Alma sence when he confess to Allen. anyway I hate animation and the fact they did change Allan&lavi's voice, but enjoying every ep. |
| *sigh* tear jerking... another sad episode... :((( |
| Damn, another amazing episode. This is really as good a sequel as I could ask for, sure the pacing and animation aren't great but they are still doing a great job conveying the emotions properly. The part where Kanda and Alma are sent off to that place from the first few episodes made me cry. I wonder what happened to Timcanpy there though. Sounded like Cross speaking through him... Hopefully that's explained later on. |
| I already forgot who is that dud who uses his onmyouji scroll to restrain Allen? 3/5. |
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| I read somewhere that this season would focus on allen and kanda out of our main group from the first series, but I really hope with Lavi's disappearance, that when he comes back (asap please) he will be more relevant to the story ;-; I miss my favorite character </3 |
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