Seiken no Blacksmith Episode 8 Discussion

ShanaFlame said:
you gotta love Luke here^^ I really like Charlotte more than Cecily here :)

francismeunier said:
He did nothing to help Charlotte

ShanaFlame said:
Well, it would be boring if he's always there to help her.

Chimasternmay said:
3 god dam episode with less then a minute worth of Luke, that was hard to bear

Zilpzalp said:
francismeunier, I think you forgot that the empire would destroy the city if they would let them escape with taking their swords.

francismeunier said:
I will admit that action and development were good...everything else made no logic sense. Why not let Margot/Doris/Penelope have their Demon Swords and escape? Instead some challenge was done by Cecily. The first thing is Margot, Cecily's aim must have gotten suddenly good and Margot's dodging bad...since she got hit by Cecily on the shoulder and was bleeding from a direct hit of Aria. Penelope....no logic at all, how could Cecily use Aria after Ballock absorbed the powers of Aria....fail, the Ballock knife only absorbs and does not neutralize all the powers of a demon sword. On top of that Penelope got her arm pierced through by Aria. Finally the battle against Doris....how could Aria in a parry attack against Claymore beat that demon sword when both are supposed to be equal in strengh unless wind beats earth? This makes no sense. Even worse was the thing with Charlotte after....she tries to stab Cecily only to get her sword deviated by Cecily's hand with a small cut to her hand and a slap to the face? O_O *In disbelief* The only good thing was the action but Cecily's arrogance in her words dissapointed me. Why not just take the demon swords and escape? Charlotte and her party are now defenseless if they ever get captured.....Total logical mess in this episode. Wonder if the subs will even make sense of this....maybe.

Zilpzalp said:

Start with hero -> hero gets weapon -> hero loses because he is too bad -> someone dies / is in danger, hero levels up to level 2 -> hero wins this time.

francismeunier said:
It would fantastic if Charlotte had Doris/Margot/Penelope with their demon swords...but now they are defenseless. It will be boring to see no action with those demon swords would you not agree?

ShanaFlame said:
Yeah, good point there.

argilium said:
Ah that kind of logic....I prefered using normal logic. Even if the Empire does not chase them, they will try to find them then they will kill them. I would not be sure if they attacked the Empire they would be killed with those demon swords....with enough practice they would have been able to be as good as Cecily.
Point was Cecily was that good at concentration at that time. Even with a new more precise attack...I think it needs aim and Cecily got really good at is suddenly even if she had some practice we see in episode 7.
Yeah? What about episode 6 when Cecily could not use Aria for some time? I agree with the wind speed thing, Penelope could have dodged that easily and remember she was only one who got on Cecily a cut....too bad it was not deeper. At least she kicked Cecily good.
That might be....still think Doris should gotten Cecily by that time.
Yeah, the slap logic is right, won't argue with that....have fun with the rest.

Olymunaai said:
We almost got to the end without any boob references or jokes etc, then they went and ruined it *facepalm*

argilium said:
talk about the sacred blacksmith.. but it's a fault on luke's character being like that.. the hell he cares about unnecessary stuff...

francismeunier said:

I agree to that, it did ruin it for me too.

Wasabi said:
What a cliche episode. Cecily wins through sheer resolve and now she gets all preachy.

Wasabi said:
Cecily wins through sheer resolve and now she gets all preachy.

stAtic91 said:
It didn't look like sheer resolve to me. Cecily has improved her skills and is actually thinking and working together with Aria, that's why she won.

1jzSC said:


the only highlight of this terribly boring episode

BitchMaster said:


So what do you know about his goal to say it's "unnecessary"? Unless you read the manga or novel ahead of us...Otherwise stop assume things puh-lease <_<

1jzSC said:


the only highlight of this terribly boring episode

noteDhero said:
The whole episode was lame and cliche, but I honestly didn't have many problems outside of that (because we've seen much worse in previous episodes, we have to admit) until the end. Just as I was thinking, "Ok, what's the point of this arc? We saw 4 demon swords, one of which intimated something sinister (yet highly forgettable) about the difference between transforming and non-transforming sword; and we saw the white haired guy in what seemed to be the Empire's army. Was that really the whole point?"

But then, right at the end, we get thrown a bone, and Charlotte basically says, "We were puppets on a string, I didn't tell you, but I guess I should now since I tried to kill you, racked up your tab, and destroyed your place of work. The guy's name is Sigfried."

What. The. Fuck.
What kind of half-assed bullshit excuse is that to try and make the whole thing relevant?

Beyond that, francis, I totally agree with argilium. Charlotte and company were trapped, and since they declined both offers from the Empire and the militant forces (or whatever), the only thing they could do was fake their death and move on from there. They could have kept the swords if they went with the opposing force, but since they weren't attached to them anyways, it didn't matter.

I take issue with the fact that Cecily suddenly has more new powers with Aria even though we never saw any training (but lots of dress up and chores), and the timeline of this whole episode seemed rather small.

Down another point for me. Even if the animation was good.

noteDhero said:
My point of contention is that we don't see the training. Instead, we get a chore montage.

noteDhero said:
I'll put more emphasis on "see." We just get heavy panting by a ponytailed Cecily, a couple of swipes, while Aria looks on retardedly with her hands clasped together.

noteDhero said:
My point of contention is that we don't see the training. Instead, we get a chore montage.

BitchMaster said:
and now you're demanding a waste of time by showing Cecily's training step-by-step?

Shancakeschan said:
Needs. more. Luke.

nii-nii said:


This. I can't deal with this whole Luke-having-two-seconds-of-screentime thing anymore. It's just not cutting it for me.

snowteddy said:
i dont know why u guys hate cecily so much(and are still watching the show with so much complaints)..

BitchMaster said:

LOL you said to me about how directors should put what they think are necessary in a show instead of wasting their time like how they did with Kurozuka and now you're demanding a waste of time by showing Cecily's training step-by-step? What does that change anyway? We knew that she trained herself, even though the way she imagined how to handle a katana looked stupid, she still had training that permitted her to improve and beat her nemesis instead of some shonen dude who won because the author decided it to be so. This, at least is logical and swallowable to me. Why wasting 5 mins to a whole ep to drag the training shit out? What most spectators want is action against movable objects, instead of the heroine training to puch some sandbag, amirite?

But other than this, I can't argue about the fact that this show failed in its time management as it wasted too much time on unnecessary moe shit stuffs ( For the love of GDO, the ending song is full of that crap already...) Proof to show how anime producers nowadays are desperate for cash, not that I don't understand their pain and the situation that they are facing though...