Is there an anime you can't seem to find flaws in it's enjoyment? Probable spoilers for multiple series.
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Apr 23, 2014 9:21 AM
#81
Extreme3708 said: My favorite anime ever is One Piece, I simply love almost everything about it and I doubt I will find another series to can take it's place in my heart, however I do find some flaws in One Piece ( animation and art is a big issue) and also some other things I come across as well. In the other hand Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood in my opinion is "the perfect anime" I just can't seem to find anything wrong with it. I rate based in my enjoyment but when I think about it FMAB animation, sound, story, characters is just amazing. It has a little bit of everything to be honest, I think it definitely deserves the top spot on MAL. But I wanna know if there is a series that you guys like, that you like so much that you can't find anything wrong with it. Dragon Ball Z. To be frank. I know there's actually plenty wrong with it, but I choose to ignore everything wrong with it every single time I watch it. I just prefer the rose-tinted glasses I see it through, and I don't believe that's ever going to change. I got too much nostalgia from it. |
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Apr 23, 2014 10:22 AM
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pLaguE_ said: Shinsekai yori is one with little flaws and the flaws that are there can easily be ignored. It's hard to find an anime that doesn't have flaws. Mushishi and Shinsekai yori are my choices. How can SSY have easily overlooked flaws when the characters are meh and most of the revelations mean nothing by the end. Hey audience the Queerats are actually human...but we're not gonna tell anyone or do anything about it lolz. |
Apr 23, 2014 10:55 AM
#83
hybreezy said: pLaguE_ said: Shinsekai yori is one with little flaws and the flaws that are there can easily be ignored. It's hard to find an anime that doesn't have flaws. Mushishi and Shinsekai yori are my choices. How can SSY have easily overlooked flaws when the characters are meh and most of the revelations mean nothing by the end. Hey audience the Queerats are actually human...but we're not gonna tell anyone or do anything about it lolz. What is there to do about it? All throughout the series they explained the amount of manipulating they do to the human brain. They have been mutating humans into queerats for an extremely long time. There is no telling that even if they were to find out that they would somehow remember it. The only 5 who actually have any type of freewill are the 5 MC's. The characters can be stale at times, but they all have their separate views and how they respond to each action upon them. |
Apr 23, 2014 10:59 AM
#84
hybreezy said: pLaguE_ said: Shinsekai yori is one with little flaws and the flaws that are there can easily be ignored. It's hard to find an anime that doesn't have flaws. Mushishi and Shinsekai yori are my choices. How can SSY have easily overlooked flaws when the characters are meh and most of the revelations mean nothing by the end. Hey audience the Queerats are actually human...but we're not gonna tell anyone or do anything about it lolz. Um, how is that bad? most of the cast was being kept in the dark about it so why should we know? |
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Apr 23, 2014 11:11 AM
#85
Let's see So after Squealer murders two of their best friends and raises their child to be a murdering psychopath, let's randomly reveal they were human all along and that makes it okay. The fact Saki even mercy kills him and apologizes makes it even more comical. Also in terms of what could be done? Umm let's see Queerat uprising slaughters tons of people because they're tired of being mistreated. Well we won anyway so we'll just go back to treating them like shit and laughing at this "we're human notion" anyway. Also doesn't Saki inherit the highest power of the village from that elderly woman? Clearly she's in a position to make changes. The characters also don't really grow at all from their experiences either. I still enjoyed the show quite a bit, but really... |
Apr 23, 2014 11:23 AM
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hybreezy said: Let's see So after Squealer murders two of their best friends and raises their child to be a murdering psychopath, let's randomly reveal they were human all along and that makes it okay. The fact Saki even mercy kills him and apologizes makes it even more comical. Also in terms of what could be done? Umm let's see Queerat uprising slaughters tons of people because they're tired of being mistreated. Well we won anyway so we'll just go back to treating them like shit and laughing at this "we're human notion" anyway. Also doesn't Saki inherit the highest power of the village from that elderly woman? Clearly she's in a position to make changes. The characters also don't really grow at all from their experiences either. I still enjoyed the show quite a bit, but really... Mercy killing him is comical? The reasoning behind their entire revolt was because they were humans. There were signs early on that they could possibly be humans. Even if there wasn't any it doesn't take much to understand they are from a viewer standpoint. Saki never(?) inherits her position. She works with the exospecies control for the majority of the adulthood that we see in the anime. It is never directly that she is in control of the Ethics committee even in the end. It is only said that she is a member. The human race that currently is alive, will have no recollection of the events that took place due to the manipulation of their minds. Saki is capable of some change, but to fully say they will regroup and become a better society? They don't even know that themselves even at the very last second of the anime. That civilization is too far gone into what they already started. The change that could possibly happen would take decades to change. |
Apr 23, 2014 2:17 PM
#87
Extreme3708 said: ButNotForMe said: Yes, Cowboy Bebop Oh wait Episode 21 SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED Im on episode 11 of cowboy bebop and I don't see whats so special about it. Sure spike is a cool MC but it has poor story, worldbuilding and boring episodes. Story and episodes I can agree, since there's isn't much at the first 11 episodes when episode 5 is clearly the best but worldbuilding? really? If you find it boring, just watch Spike's and Faye's arc as Jet's arc contains the worst episode of the show |
It is so dense. Every single image has so many things going on. |
Apr 23, 2014 3:28 PM
#88
Yeah Bebop has some solid worldbuilding, I think that is probably one of the show's biggest strengths. Also one of the relatively few benefits I can see to episodic stories in general. |
Apr 23, 2014 4:57 PM
#89
The wordbuilding in Cowboy Bebop is probably one of the weakest part of the show. Compare it to LoGH, that reserved two whole episodes narrating the historical events that led to the current political universe, and you’ll see the difference. In Cowboy Bebop there is hardly any explanation of why everything is happening, like how some of the planets visited in the show seem to have different cultures and technologies, as well as divergent political and religious structure. I can accept the lack of information if there is a reason for it, but there isn’t. Moreover in Cowboy Bebop people can apparently live in space just by holding their breath and clog their ears (episode 7 around minute 20.00), nice worldbuildng there. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:03 PM
#90
Nope, no animes nor anything is perfect |
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Apr 23, 2014 5:10 PM
#91
tsudecimo said: My nigga. Yes, though I still enjoy Brotherhood a good deal it's far from perfect and no where near the level most people hold it to. The original is vastly more thought out in a lot of areas. On topic, Ghost in the Shell SAC series is another that comes to mind. I couldn't really find flaws with it nor would I change anything about it except more lesbian scenes with the Major.LoneWolfRain said: As far as TV series goes, the only anime that I can't find any legit flaws in is Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. I have yet to hear of any criticism that makes it a bad anime in any way. Of course it isn't perfect (since there's no such thing as a perfect work IMO), but it still doesn't have any major flaws. And I enjoyed it as well. #1) The first time Father reabsorbed Greed, he COMPLETELY reabsorbed him into his body, as in he became like he was before he gave birth to Greed. The second time he reabsorbed Greed, Greed not only retained his consciousness, he somehow was able to nullify Father’s alchemy/regeneration and turn his body into charcoal (or weak carbon), which, for some reason, Father wasn’t able to turn back to flesh, despite the fact that he STILL had THOUSANDS of souls within him. Also, it was stated his body was supposed to be MADE OF Philosopher’s Stones, not contain one like the Homunculi (in other words there’s no part of him, except for his soul, that’s not a Philosopher’s Stone). However, when a hole was punched him him, they are all suddenly seen escaping. When Father punched a hole in Hohenheim (and when he was shot many times in the manga), the souls didn’t escape. Also, how could Father destroy Greed just by biting down on him, especially if he was in such a “weakened” state? #2) Father’s arm was still inside of Ling AFTER he removed all of his Philosopher’s Stone and Greed. How was Ling able to survive being run through if Father removed his Philospher’s Stone? Seems this was done/stretched just for the sake of convenience to the plot. #3) Also, did Ling actually figure out how to gain immortality with the Philosopher’s Stone he took back to Xing? If not, why did he become emperor? And if he didn’t learn how to insert it into himself to make himself immortal while in Amestris, who’s to say the emperor simply wouldn’t have taken it from him to use on himself? In the manga, May said that the emperor is the kind of person who might do that, hence why she didn’t want to take back to him the method of creating the Stone, or the fact that it’s composed of human souls—because he just might actually try to make one to prolong his life. #4) King Bradley constantly keeps his Ultimate Eye covered with an eyepatch. Yet somehow, he is still able to use it to dodge and predict anything and everything. He also removed this patch when fighting Greed/Ling at Central HQ, commenting that, like when he fought Ling before, that it was his “blind spot.” So, he is able to, at least partially, see through what we assume is a completely opaque material (or it could just be inconsistent writing either way—he can use it when covered by his eyepatch, but it’s still somehow his “blind spot?”). However, Buccaneer is able to stab him by thrusting his sword through Fu into Bradley, impaling both of them, commenting that “even with Godlike eyes, there’s no way you can dodge an attack that you can’t see!” A solid, opaque object (Fu) was blocking Buccaneer, just like how Bradley’s eyepatch is a solid, opaque object. Seems like this was done for convenience of the story. -->#4a) A supplement to that: How would Bradley be able to avoid a _hail_ of bullets? Some of the bullets/artillery shells would block from view some of the other bullets/artillery shells, especially when facing a whole platoon or army. Futhermore, when he was still rising up through the ranks as a young man, wouldn’t it be possible that some of the higher caliber bullets could pass through the men nearby/in front of him who were blocking his view and still be able to hit him without him seeing them? He explained to Greed that his Ultimate Eye is the reason he was able to “dodge flying bullets on the battlefield” and rise to his current rank, but situations like the ones just mentioned must have arisen at some point, right? -->#4b) Also, the ONLY thing I can think of to explain that is that his eyepatch appears opaque from the outside, but allows him to at least partially see through it from the inside? Even this is somewhat of a stretch, though, in my opinion. #5) Why do Selim and King Bradley act like father and son even when no one is around or when they think no one is around? They seem to have an inconsistent relationship (sometimes occasionally when no one is around, their roles will switch; Selim is Pride and older than/senior to King Bradley/Wrath). Also, why would Selim drop over and over again to his mother and others around him that he admires/likes/wants to be like the Fullmetal Alchemist all the time? Wouldn’t it be smarter not to do that, as a homunculus? And how come his eyes glaze over and he gets so excited when he meets Alphonse? I don’t think he could be that good of an actor—it’s not all that believable. Neither is his complete personality change from when we think he’s just a normal boy, Selim Bradley, to when we find out he’s actually Pride. It’s just not portrayed/developed well, in my opinion. #6) Why the HELL would Lust think it’s okay to kill both Alphonse and Roy Mustang? NONE of the other homunculi, including Father, EVER try to kill EITHER of them, EVEN when they discover the nationwide transmutation circle, AND stumble across Father’s lair. Even after Lust is killed, they never take it even close to that level by trying to harm or eliminate any of them. Totally inconsistent and ridiculous. Lust is also aware of Father and the other homunculi’s motives and what they are and are not willing to do, and that totally goes against that. She would’ve majorly screwed things up/made things difficult for Father if she had actually killed them, and I’m sure none of the other homunculi would’ve been happy with her if she had done that OR handled it in the way she did. #7) Pride doesn’t seem to be injured in the same way as the other homunculi when fighting Heinkel, and isn’t seen regenerating, but still comments his Philosopher’s Stone has been weakened from fighting him. This is odd and inconsistent. #8) How could Edward know what would happen when he made himself into a Philosopher’s Stone to invade Pride? He could’ve been lost in the torrent of souls or sucked in by Pride; he has no idea what would’ve happened. #9) Is Pride’s “true form” shadows or the small infant seen after Edward defeats him? They’re completely different substances. Selim says he needs a new “container” when his body is breaking down , but what’s left when he is defeated IS a container. Also, Hohenheim remarks that Father made Pride in his image—as a mass of shadows, implying that the SHADOWS may actually be his real body. Hard to make sense of this.. it seems a little inconsistent. #10) Father DOES seem to genuinely care for his “children” at first (except for Greed, whom he only melted down and reabsorbed because he openly rebelled against him and was potentially a big liability). He toasts the rest of the homunculi goodwill after reabsorbing Greed, calls Gluttony “my son” and takes care to recreate him with all of his former powers and memory intact after his Stone runs out, AND seems to confirm by his reaction Hohenheim’s accusation that the REAL reason he expelled his sins and created the Homunculi is because he wanted a family. Yet all of a sudden he abandons Pride, and Edward does convince Pride (or at least gets under his skin about it) that Father doesn’t care about him. This COULD be interpreted as Father simply wanted to take care of business and then return to Pride, or thought Pride could handle himself. Things don’t QUITE add up no matter which way you look at it. ***#11) Scar: this is a big one. So, it’s eventually discovered when he’s fighting King Bradley that before the Promised Day, he tattooed his left arm with his brother’s reconstruction array. So, he uses his right arm to destroy surrounding materials and sever Bradley’s arms, and his left arm to CREATE spikes which rise up from the ground. HOWEVER, it has been stated many, many times throughout the series, the three steps of alchemy are: understanding, deconstruction, and reconstruction. In other words, you have to 1) Know what you’re deconstructing, 2) BREAK IT DOWN, and 3) reconstruct it. That arm ONLY has the array for RECONSTRUCTION on it. Therefore, he shouldn’t be able to transmute ANYTHING without using BOTH of his hands (or perhaps even clapping them together first like Kimblee did to perform his alchemy), to deconstruct and THEN reconstruct it. The only thing I could POSSIBLY see his left arm being able to do (and this is a stretch, since it’s been made very clear you HAVE to go in order with those three steps of alchemy and there haven’t been any other cases of an entire step being skipped in the manga or in Brotherhood) without his right arm is bonding things together, like turning hydrogen and oxygen in the air into water, etc. #12) Mustang—If he couldn’t see, how could he clap his hands and create that barrier from the ground when fighting Father with Hawkeye? He couldn’t see what material, or at least what kind of stone, he was transmuting. It’s possible he just already knew since he’s been in HQ a lot, but not necessarily in that particular area of HQ. Edward couldn’t break Buccaneer’s automail arm when fighting him for the first time near Briggs Fortress because he didn’t know what it was composed of (he thought it was made of iron, but it wasn’t). Also, if I remember correctly there are other times when characters used deconstruction without knowing what they were deconstructing. #13) Sloth didn’t need to be hurt/killed as many times as the other Homunculi, especially Envy/Lust—look how many times they are “killed” vs. the few times Sloth is killed. Yes he suffered massive damage each of those times, but Lust/Envy often had their WHOLE BODY incinerated; one time Mustang even took Lust’s Philosopher’s stone out and it had to regenerate her body from NOTHING, which is equivalent to destroying her ENTIRE BODY once (Sloth never incurred that much damage), and regenerating it once. -->#13a) Note: I admit this MAY be because Sloth is bigger and therefore has much more mass than the other homunculi, therefore takes more energy to regenerate his whole body; still though, that might be a stretch. #14) Why didn’t Edward keep his automail as diamond-hard carbon when fighting Father? It wouldn’ t have been destroyed then, most likely. It seemed to be in this form when fighting Pride in Father’s lair, because he was able to block his attacks. Did he THEN transmute it back afterwards?? Why? Seems like this was done SOLELY so that Alphonse would later transmute his soul to restore his flesh-and-blood arm, when in fact that situation was easily avoidable by Edward. #15) Greed- I think it’s idiotic that Greed doesn’t fully (or even close to fully, really) harden his body when fighting others, especially homunculi. I know he explained that he doesn’t LIKE to because it covers his handsome face, but if that’s the case, WHY would he break it out almost right away when fighting Edward and Izumi, and then NEVER use it again until the VERY end as Greed/Ling (junk like this has been done in other anime series too—a character will go full-out in his first appearance, but then never do that again for the rest of the series, even when his life is in danger; it’s just done to “punch up” the story or something at the expense of inconsistency)? Had he done this, instead of simply only hardening his arms as he usually does, he wouldn’t have been captured and melted down by father, would basically be nearly invincible when fighting (except against alchemists) and could make short work of his opponents, and most importantly, had NO REASON to run away from or be scared of Bradley when he attacked him in his residence and Bradley tried to decapitate him. This is DEFINITELY done for the convenience of the story, in my opinion. No fun having a character that’s too powerful or invincible, so we’ll just make it that he’s too dense to figure out he could win ALL his fights and not get himself into NEARLY as much trouble if he just completely used his powers rather than half-assing it. Total crap. Bradley could never beat him if he fully used his Ultimate Shield, and neither could Pride. Making it so he doesn't utilize it fully most of the time when he easily could only creates forced and artificial tension/drama. #16) The thing with Greed being able to regenerate but Bradley not being able to just isn’t explained well, or at least fully (yeah, you could argue his thing about explaining that after fighting the Philosopher’s Stone when first becoming Wrath he was left with one soul and therefore couldn’t regenerate.. but I don’t buy it. How could he have any powers as a homunculus anyway with just ONE soul, like any ordinary humans? Their super speed/strength/etc. assumedly comes from the stone, which contains a multitude of souls). Although Bradley’s missing ability to regenerate might explain his aging (all the other homunculi who can regenerate don’t age, although not enough time passed to see if Greed/Ling would age), it still seems like this was done for convenience—he’s already hard to kill with his Ultimate Eye, so he would’ve been impossible for the characters to kill if he could regenerate as well. #17) The thing about Hohenheim dying at the end because he ran out of Stone.. I don’t buy it. He should’ve become a normal human if he had only his soul left. Furthermore, Bradley said he was left with only one soul after becoming Wrath, and Hohenheim is very similar to a Homunculus anyway (the structure of his body is identical to Father’s). Bradley didn’t deteriorate into nothing and/or die after this, and neither should Hohenheim have. Maybe my argument is a stretch here, but I still think it’s dumb that he died at the end just because he only had one soul left. #18) Eclipses don’t usually last as long as was depicted; Father should’ve started his transmutation RIGHT before the moon completely covered the sun, not right when it did. By doing that he risked the eclipse ending and the circle surrounding the eclipse dissipating before opening the Sun’s door/gate. #19) Although Alphonse was very upset when he met his body in front of the doors when his soul left his armor body after it was transported to Father’s lair along with Edward, Izumi, and Mustang, because he knew that it was so atrophied and weak that he wouldn’t be able to use it to fight… WHAT could he have traded to get it back??? The body was calling his soul to it, as in the body probably wanted his soul to return to it in the gate/doors. Did Alphonse really think he could just take his body back to Father’s lair without paying a price? This part definitely doesn’t add up. AND Alphonse is an accomplished alchemist who’s even seen the Truth; there’s no way he could be so dumb or ignorant as to not know that he’d have to pay something to get his body back and couldn’t just “take it with him” just because. Makes no sense at all. If anything, trying to unite his body and soul would end with BOTH being trapped in the gate/doors. Although, really, Alphonse probably should have just stayed there, at least for a period of time (if that was an option), without uniting with his body, so that Father wouldn’t have a fifth sacrifice to use. #20) Aren’t Ed, Al, Izumi, Mustang, and Hohenheim supposed to be human _sacrifices_?? They weren’t sacrificed at all; they were fine at the end, and Father even had to try to kill them AFTER the eclipse transmutation was over because they were clearly not dead. What was their role in the transmutation, why were they even required? I think if these were five random Alchemists that the reader was not familiar with OR were just people that the homunculi forced to perform human transmutation who weren’t major characters or important to the plot, Arakawa would’ve written it so that they would’ve died. But obviously no one would want to see five major characters die, so it was, in my opinion, done for convenience of the plot. #21) Mustang should’ve lost his eyes, not just his eyesight, in the human transmutation, just like Judau did in the “Blind Alchemist” side story. This is just straight inconsistency, which in my opinion arose most likely because 1) readers didn’t want to see him without his handsome face, i.e. missing eyeballs & scars around his eyes, 2) the author intended his sight to be restored later (psh, like I never saw that one coming.. he kept his eyeballs to make that easier to happen for God’s sake). You could argue the punishment might’ve been lesser because it was a FORCED human transmutation that was performed against his will, but still—that might be a stretch. I mean he even gained knowledge from the doors/gate in exchange—he could use the clapping transmutation after that, so it was a legit human transmutation. #22) Why would Father and the other homunculi have waited till the last minute to finish up SO much of this stuff? They had over 400 years. If Sloth was even slightly slower in carving the tunnel, it never would’ve worked out. They should’ve gotten on the thing with Ishval and Briggs WAY earlier. Also, letting Mustang roam (relatively) free instead of holding him like they did Marcoh allowed him to rebel and could have cost them dearly. #23) Forcing someone to perform a human transmutation is ridiculous anyway, in my opinion. I think Arakawa might’ve painted herself into a corner with that one (just couldn’t figure out how to make it so Marcoh or Mustang would willingly perform human transmutation, or accidentally developed them so much that it would’ve then been very out-of-character to do that), and used that as an “out.” By the way, one of the sacrifices is going to be a Philosopher’s Stone in human form (Hohenheim)? How do you know that’s even gonna work?? He’s not actually a human anymore. Wouldn’t that screw things up? How do you know if that would even work out? Plus, you think it’s gonna be easy to subdue a human Philosopher’s Stone? Finally, Hohenheim has powers equivalent or near-equivalent to Father; if he HADN’T reached Father’s lair first, or hadn’t come in time, would father actually have been able to use alchemy to transport him there like he did with Ed, Al, Izumi and Mustang? Who’s to say he wouldn’t be able to resist something like that, considering he and Father are identical? AND Father tried to steal his Philosopher’s Stone before the eclipse transmutation? Wouldn’t that kill him and therefore eliminate him for use as a sacrifice? -->#23a) Come to think of it, much of the way Father planned his grand scheme seems rather poorly thought out and could have easily failed. #24) Why did Father return to his original ball-of-shadows form when he was brought before the doors/gate at the end? Hadn’t he said before, when Hohenheim destroyed his body and it was revealed that his shadow form had grown to adult size, that he had evolved beyond that form in the 400 years since he was a ball of shadows in Xerxes? To me this is equivalent to a human infant growing up into an adult in the country of Amestris, then being reduced back to an infant when brought before the doors. #25) I almost decided to let this one go, but alas, here we go: we’ve discovered that Father used the machine in his lair to spread the Philosopher’s Stone in his body throughout Amestris to dampen the effects of alchemy in that country, and to “turn off” alchemy there when needed. However, we’ve also discovered that Philosopher’s Stones usually have a size proportional to how many souls they contain. The number of people in Xerxes when the populace there was transmuted into a Stone was at least one million (AFTER using the stones in his body to perform some alchemy, and setting up his own nationwide transmutation circle, Hohenheim stated that he had a little over 500,000 souls in his body). With all of the people there, Xerxes is much smaller in physical size than Amestris. So, would half of the souls in Xerxes really be enough to completely cover the ground in Amestris (or really under the ground, but you know what I mean)? ***#26) Long-distance transmutation- ah, this is a big one, and one of my favorite (or least favorite) plot holes in the manga and Brotherhood. It’s said that alchemy is incapable of long-distance transmutation, while alkahestry (also known as "rentanjutsu") is. The long-distance transmutation is done by drawing a transmutation array on the ground, putting knives in each of the points of the array, reading the “dragon’s pulse” to understand where the flow of chi in the Earth lies and in what direction(s) it’s flowing, throwing ANOTHER set of knives at a distant object in the same formation as the original set of knives, and then transmuting. HOWEVER, there have also been instances of somewhat long-distance alchemy transmutation in the manga. Kimblee is seen doing it when he kills Scar’s family. Edward is seen doing it when chasing after Paninya in the mountainous area of Rush Valley (this is the most obvious example, ESPECIALLY in Brotherhood). And there are many other instances of that happening throughout the series; an alchemist is able to transmute a distant object or set of objects, often by letting the alchemic energy they’re using flow through the ground, or a nearby wall or path. Yet the Elrics are very surprised when they see May do her long distance transmutation, when they themselves are capable of similar or near-similar feats. I just don’t think this was thought out very well by Arakawa beforehand, or she slipped up and wrote some inconsistencies without thinking about it, because I’m still not entirely sure of the difference between long-distance alkahestry transmutation and just transmuting a not-so-nearby object using alchemy. *A lot of plot points, including the ones above, seem to arise from dumb luck, and involve poor planning/leaving things to chance on the part of several characters, and it often seems like the author didn’t think it all the way through. AND it seems like a lot of the inconsistencies also arise from, as mentioned before in some places, for the sake of CONVENIENCE to the story. Things like that really cheapen it, in my opinion. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:12 PM
#92
Apr 23, 2014 5:14 PM
#93
Objectively speaking, Mushishi is boring as fuck. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:16 PM
#94
ryuushogi said: the first 18 episodes are downright terrible, the series proceeds to be hit or miss throughout its 1st and 2nd year whilst the 3rd year occassionally finds dips in quality, the benizakura arc suffers from the and most generic antagonist in the series whos only motivation and goal was to kill people with a sword cause "hurr durr im evil" as well as the terrible antagonist in the mitsuba arc whos only motivation was similar, the 4th years suffers from the only bad filler in the series as a result of barely any manga chapters left causing a slow pacing on many episodes in an attempt to draw out time out of a show essentially on life support.also gintama' episode 8 was dogshit.Gintama my all time fav its mostly comedy but i still enjoys it every ep is awsm and i have rewatch it atleast 3 or 4 times and i still seem to enjoy it there might have some flaws but its a masterpiece for me |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Apr 23, 2014 5:19 PM
#95
Wow, a lot of people shooting down other people's posts here. I thought this thread was all about what anime can't you find flaws in it's enjoyment (keyword here.), not having others point out what they find as flaws in that thing you enjoyed. Well, whatever, that's MAL for you. OT: For me it's FLCL. There's not a thing I don't like about it. Even the stuff that would be considered a flaw in another anime strangely works to the anime's benefit and makes for an unique experience (in a good way.) |
Apr 23, 2014 5:21 PM
#96
SetsukoHara said: Objectively speaking, Mushishi is boring as fuck. Is the reason I don't plan to watch it ever. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:23 PM
#97
JizzyHitler said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: bebop episode 6Well, objectively speaking there are always LOGH and Cowboy Bebop to disprove the existence of flaws. The ending of that episode completely redeemed it. BANG! |
Apr 23, 2014 5:25 PM
#98
Apr 23, 2014 5:28 PM
#99
Ratohnhaketon said: tsudecimo said: SetsukoHara said: Objectively speaking, Mushishi is boring as fuck. Is the reason I don't plan to watch it ever. Yeah it doesn't have titties, stock characters, asspulls, explosions, cute girls or a dense main character. Must be shit. Thanks for the heads up. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:30 PM
#100
Nope. Even 10/10 shows have some small flaws but they aren't enough to take off a point from the overall score. When I watch any show, any genre I tend to be extremely observant as to understand what is going on or what may happen next. During this process, I pick up on aspects of the show that I dislike or am not too fond of. Because of that I will always find flaws in any show that I watch. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:34 PM
#101
Ratohnhaketon said: tsudecimo said: SetsukoHara said: Objectively speaking, Mushishi is boring as fuck. Is the reason I don't plan to watch it ever. Yeah it doesn't have titties, stock characters, asspulls, explosions, cute girls or a dense main character. Must be shit. Really, you are going to use that meme sort of argument. It's going to be shit for the lack of interesting concept, episodic nature or any sort of appeal. Same as Aria, and other slow paced type of shows, that scream boring to me. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:36 PM
#102
tsudecimo said: Ratohnhaketon said: tsudecimo said: SetsukoHara said: Objectively speaking, Mushishi is boring as fuck. Is the reason I don't plan to watch it ever. Yeah it doesn't have titties, stock characters, asspulls, explosions, cute girls or a dense main character. Must be shit. Really, you are going to use that meme sort of argument. It's going to be shit for the lack of interesting concept, episodic nature or any sort of appeal. Same as Aria, and other slow paced type of shows, that scream boring to me. Watch an episode of Mushishi right before bed and see if it makes a difference. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:36 PM
#103
Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Baccano!, and Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica are all objective masterpieces that I love to fucking death. Maybe Baccano! a little less so considering how short it was and how long it's been since I watched it but whatever. SolBlade said: I honestly thought that the final villain was fine, considering that he was Brotherhood does have some flaws, such as (in my opinion) a lackluster final villain and some convenient moments. Nothing too major except the first point, though, so I can see what you guys mean. This is coming from a guy who gave it a 10, by the way. essentially a combination of all the villains in the show, considering they were all his emotions or something and that the final battle was basically a battle vs god himself And even I'm wrong here, who cares about the final villain when you have people like King Bradley anyway? |
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Apr 23, 2014 5:39 PM
#104
Korrvo said: Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Baccano!, and Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica are all objective masterpieces that I love to fucking death. Maybe Baccano! a little less so considering how short it was and how long it's been since I watched it but whatever. SolBlade said: I honestly thought that the final villain was fine, considering that he was Brotherhood does have some flaws, such as (in my opinion) a lackluster final villain and some convenient moments. Nothing too major except the first point, though, so I can see what you guys mean. This is coming from a guy who gave it a 10, by the way. essentially a combination of all the villains in the show, considering they were all his emotions or something and that the final battle was basically a battle vs god himself And even I'm wrong here, who cares about the final villain when you have people like King Bradley anyway? Exactly. If it had been just Father then I would have been disappointed but the other Homunculi (especially Bradley) made up for it. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:41 PM
#105
tsudecimo said: Ratohnhaketon said: tsudecimo said: SetsukoHara said: Objectively speaking, Mushishi is boring as fuck. Is the reason I don't plan to watch it ever. Yeah it doesn't have titties, stock characters, asspulls, explosions, cute girls or a dense main character. Must be shit. Really, you are going to use that meme sort of argument. It's going to be shit for the lack of interesting concept, episodic nature or any sort of appeal. Same as Aria, and other slow paced type of shows, that scream boring to me. -snobby nerd snorting- Really, you are going to spout nonsense about a series you've never seen. It's nothing like Aria, not even in the way it handles its episodic nature. It might not be for you, but objectively speaking anyone who calls it Mushitshit jacks off to otaku pandering quasi-pedo moe girls. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:42 PM
#106
my top 5 are flawless so whenever i rewatch them i always enjoy them like i'm watching the shows for the 1st time |
Apr 23, 2014 5:43 PM
#107
SolBlade said: Watch an episode of Mushishi right before bed and see if it makes a difference. Nah, I have too many things I want to watch and finish in anime/manga/TV shows, like Baccano and Game of Thrones. I have no time to try a series, that doesn't interest me in the slightest. Reading that it's episodic alone make me lose interest. Why before bed though? any special reason? Ratohnhaketon said: -snobby nerd snorting- Really, you are going to spout nonsense about a series you've never seen. It's nothing like Aria, not even in the way it handles its episodic nature. It might not be for you, but objectively speaking anyone who calls it Mushitshit jacks off to otaku pandering quasi-pedo moe girls. I'm not spouting anything, I'm merely stating my expectation of the series, and why it doesn't interest me, and why I feel like it would be boring. That's cool and probably true, I mean similar as in slow pace, seemingly boring and having episodic nature. Same goes for Kino no Tabi. And you used to be one of the few reasonable and level headed people here, huh. |
tsudecimoApr 23, 2014 5:47 PM
Apr 23, 2014 5:54 PM
#108
I watched 4 episdes of Mushishi, it had a chill atmosphere, was rather poetic... And that's about it, this is nice, but not enough to make me stay for 26 episodes. |
Apr 23, 2014 5:56 PM
#110
There are probably legitimate (though small) flaws in Baccano But I have so much fun watching it I can't even see 'em #RoseTint |
Apr 23, 2014 5:59 PM
#111
tsudecimo said: Ratohnhaketon said: -snobby nerd snorting- Really, you are going to spout nonsense about a series you've never seen. It's nothing like Aria, not even in the way it handles its episodic nature. It might not be for you, but objectively speaking anyone who calls it Mushitshit jacks off to otaku pandering quasi-pedo moe girls. I'm not spouting anything, I'm merely stating my expectation of the series, and why it doesn't interest me, and why I feel like it would be boring. That's cool and probably true, I mean similar as in slow pace, seemingly boring and having episodic nature. Same goes for Kino no Tabi. And you used to be one of the few reasonable and level headed people here, huh. "It's going to be shit" and agreeing with "it's boring as fuck" are hardly speculation, more like forced expectations without experience. I can give you a dozen reasons why I will never watch Boku no Pico, but I will never assume anything I can't say without watching it. Also based on your posts it just seems like you look for ways to shoot down anything in MAL's top 50 so I just have to wonder sometimes. Nice condescending tone, I'm shaking at my loss of reputation. |
Apr 23, 2014 6:06 PM
#112
-too lazy to quote- I think Mushishi is really good if it's your taste, but it was not particularly my cup of tea. Like, it's a nice show but it didn't have much of an impact on me other than being a "poetic show". SSY definitely has flaws and I feel kind of bad for giving it a perfect score but the plot/world-building/foreshadowing/writing was just so good that I really didn't care if the characters were of less impact. Honestly, there are shows that do characters well and shows that just have a better plot. Take Madoka or Samurai Flamenco which were plot twist-type of shows. Neither had great characters but its really the story that made up for it. And then character shows like Nagi no Asukara and Uchuu Kyoudai which shone even with a not-as-captivating plot as other shows. Sun-Hae said: for me that's Space Brothers x) Same. It's really hard to find flaws in it, except the slow pacing in the latter episodes but otherwise, it's just masterful at everything. |
MayukaApr 23, 2014 6:12 PM
Apr 23, 2014 6:07 PM
#113
SetsukoHara said: I watched 4 episdes of Mushishi, it had a chill atmosphere, was rather poetic... And that's about it, this is nice, but not enough to make me stay for 26 episodes. Around the middle it did start to feel to me like it didn't need to be 26 episodes, but I still enjoyed it overall. I will say there are a few too many episodes of Ginko giving someone treatment and saying he'll return in a few months then the last 3-5 minutes show the outcome. Though I did appreciate them mixing up stories that ended on both happy and sad notes. |
Apr 23, 2014 6:07 PM
#114
NarTaco said: FMA: Brotherhood. |
Apr 23, 2014 6:09 PM
#115
Eureka Seven. I don't know man I just love that show. |
Apr 23, 2014 6:10 PM
#116
Ratohnhaketon said: tsudecimo said: Ratohnhaketon said: -snobby nerd snorting- Really, you are going to spout nonsense about a series you've never seen. It's nothing like Aria, not even in the way it handles its episodic nature. It might not be for you, but objectively speaking anyone who calls it Mushitshit jacks off to otaku pandering quasi-pedo moe girls. I'm not spouting anything, I'm merely stating my expectation of the series, and why it doesn't interest me, and why I feel like it would be boring. That's cool and probably true, I mean similar as in slow pace, seemingly boring and having episodic nature. Same goes for Kino no Tabi. And you used to be one of the few reasonable and level headed people here, huh. "It's going to be shit" and agreeing with "it's boring as fuck" are hardly speculation, more like forced expectations without experience. I can give you a dozen reasons why I will never watch Boku no Pico, but I will never assume anything I can't say without watching it. Also based on your posts it just seems like you look for ways to shoot down anything in MAL's top 50 so I just have to wonder sometimes. Nice condescending tone, I'm shaking at my loss of reputation. I didn't use ''it going to be shit'' as an actual speculation of the show. I merely replied with it's going to be shit, because you brought it up ''Must be shit''. My speculation and prejudgment was that it was going to be boring, nothing more and nothing less. Setsuko, said it was boring, I replied to express that I feel that show does indeed seem like something that would bore me, hence why I don't want to watch it. But you seem butthurt enough to take that as if I'm actually bashing the show or stating that it's shit and boring without watching it, and then to imply with that meme thing I would find it boring because of those things you listed. Cool, but I deny that assertion. I barely remember that Mushimushi is at the top 50 or top whatever. Sorry, I don't care for MAL's ranking, since they mean practically nothing. |
Apr 23, 2014 6:13 PM
#117
tsudecimo said: SolBlade said: Watch an episode of Mushishi right before bed and see if it makes a difference. Nah, I have too many things I want to watch and finish in anime/manga/TV shows, like Baccano and Game of Thrones. I have no time to try a series, that doesn't interest me in the slightest. Reading that it's episodic alone make me lose interest. Why before bed though? any special reason? Ratohnhaketon said: -snobby nerd snorting- Really, you are going to spout nonsense about a series you've never seen. It's nothing like Aria, not even in the way it handles its episodic nature. It might not be for you, but objectively speaking anyone who calls it Mushitshit jacks off to otaku pandering quasi-pedo moe girls. I'm not spouting anything, I'm merely stating my expectation of the series, and why it doesn't interest me, and why I feel like it would be boring. That's cool and probably true, I mean similar as in slow pace, seemingly boring and having episodic nature. Same goes for Kino no Tabi. And you used to be one of the few reasonable and level headed people here, huh. You have fucking Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei in your favorites. Taikei is episodic from what i've seen so far. I mean if you don't wanna watch it, it's fine but the "i'm not gonna watch it cause it's episodic" is kinda odd, considering The Tatami Galaxy is in your favorites. |
"A samurai doesn't need a reason to take action. If something needs saving, all you have to do is grab your sword"-Sakata Gintoki |
Apr 23, 2014 6:15 PM
#118
mayukachan said: Sun-Hae said: for me that's Space Brothers x) Same. It's really hard to find flaws in it, except the slow pacing in the latter episodes but otherwise, it's just masterful at everything. MuttaxSerika: No progress at all! |
Apr 23, 2014 6:16 PM
#119
SetsukoHara said: i think you got it mixed up with episode 5 which ends with him saying bang, episode 6's ending was a really dumb deus ex machinaJizzyHitler said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: bebop episode 6Well, objectively speaking there are always LOGH and Cowboy Bebop to disprove the existence of flaws. The ending of that episode completely redeemed it. BANG! |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Apr 23, 2014 6:18 PM
#120
SetsukoHara said: mayukachan said: Sun-Hae said: for me that's Space Brothers x) Same. It's really hard to find flaws in it, except the slow pacing in the latter episodes but otherwise, it's just masterful at everything. MuttaxSerika: No progress at all! True. But, I don't care much about the romance. It's like an bonus in the show. |
Apr 23, 2014 6:19 PM
#121
za0ldyeck said: Eureka Seven. I don't know man I just love that show. woo another fan, it's possibly my all time favorite. People will be quick to attack Renton though, he seems to make a lot of people mad |
Apr 23, 2014 6:19 PM
#122
SetsukoHara said: Not achieving his goal is a big one and always fixing the problems mostly by himself(he's like House). Also always saying the right thing at the right time, like randomly.mayukachan said: Sun-Hae said: for me that's Space Brothers x) Same. It's really hard to find flaws in it, except the slow pacing in the latter episodes but otherwise, it's just masterful at everything. MuttaxSerika: No progress at all! |
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Apr 23, 2014 6:21 PM
#123
KingKongShrest said: You have fucking Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei in your favorites. Taikei is episodic from what i've seen so far. I mean if you don't wanna watch it, it's fine but the "i'm not gonna watch it cause it's episodic" is kinda odd, considering The Tatami Galaxy is in your favorites. Was it though? the difference here is that Tatami Galaxy, actually has a reason for each episode to be episodic. It has a purpose on the narrative and not merely just a choice for storytelling. It adds more interest and subtlety, rather than taking it. And the final choice for Watashi has more impact due to his ''episodic'' experiences. While on the normal type of episodic, the episodic does harm, without presenting any merits and benefits from it, in my own personal experience. I'm not saying that any episodic anime is boring or will be boring. I just tend to lose interest in them. Especially if they are 20+ episodes like Samurai Champlo for example. It's just not my cup of tea. |
Apr 23, 2014 6:25 PM
#124
mayukachan said: True. But, I don't care much about the romance. It's like an bonus in the show. Really? Damn. Having romance would have gave more motivation to continue from episode one. So, the romance is not prevalent in the series or important? gombo said: za0ldyeck said: Eureka Seven. I don't know man I just love that show. woo another fan, it's possibly my all time favorite. People will be quick to attack Renton though, he seems to make a lot of people mad He is the best character in that show imo. The rest suck imo (except for Ray and Charles obviously). |
Apr 23, 2014 6:28 PM
#125
tsudecimo said: SolBlade said: Watch an episode of Mushishi right before bed and see if it makes a difference. Nah, I have too many things I want to watch and finish in anime/manga/TV shows, like Baccano and Game of Thrones. I have no time to try a series, that doesn't interest me in the slightest. Reading that it's episodic alone make me lose interest. Why before bed though? any special reason? From the little I've seen so far, it's the kind of anime that has a calming effect for restless days, so that was my reason for the suggestion. |
Apr 23, 2014 6:29 PM
#126
JizzyHitler said: SetsukoHara said: i think you got it mixed up with episode 5 which ends with him saying bang, episode 6's ending was a really dumb deus ex machinaJizzyHitler said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: bebop episode 6Well, objectively speaking there are always LOGH and Cowboy Bebop to disprove the existence of flaws. The ending of that episode completely redeemed it. BANG! Episode 6 was with that kid that couldn't age, right? That's the one which ended with Spike saying Bang at the end. IntroverTurtle said: SetsukoHara said: Not achieving his goal is a big one and always fixing the problems mostly by himself(he's like House). Also always saying the right thing at the right time, like randomly.mayukachan said: Sun-Hae said: for me that's Space Brothers x) Same. It's really hard to find flaws in it, except the slow pacing in the latter episodes but otherwise, it's just masterful at everything. MuttaxSerika: No progress at all! I'm speaking about their romance. |
Apr 23, 2014 6:30 PM
#127
Out of what I've seen, Madoka Magica for sure. The quality of the writing in that show is just incredible. |
Apr 23, 2014 6:31 PM
#128
SetsukoHara said: And I'm throwing in some more flaws.IntroverTurtle said: SetsukoHara said: Not achieving his goal is a big one and always fixing the problems mostly by himself(he's like House). Also always saying the right thing at the right time, like randomly.mayukachan said: Sun-Hae said: for me that's Space Brothers x) Same. It's really hard to find flaws in it, except the slow pacing in the latter episodes but otherwise, it's just masterful at everything. MuttaxSerika: No progress at all! I'm speaking about their romance. |
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Apr 23, 2014 6:34 PM
#129
tsudecimo said: I didn't use ''it going to be shit'' as an actual speculation of the show. I merely replied with it's going to be shit, because you brought it up ''Must be shit''. My speculation and prejudgment was that it was going to be boring, nothing more and nothing less. Setsuko, said it was boring, I replied to express that I feel that show does indeed seem like something that would bore me, hence why I don't want to watch it. But you seem butthurt enough to take that as if I'm actually bashing the show or stating that it's shit and boring without watching it, and then to imply with that meme thing I would find it boring because of those things you listed. Cool, but I deny that assertion. I barely remember that Mushimushi is at the top 50 or top whatever. Sorry, I don't care for MAL's ranking, since they mean practically nothing. I'm going to call you butthurt but look at my essay. Well I'll apologize. It was clearly my fault for not interpreting the full meaning of a poorly articulated one liner. Please forgive me, I am not worthy. |
Apr 23, 2014 6:34 PM
#130
The funny thing here is that I most likely will enjoy Mushishi. I mean I didn't think I would like Space Dandy at all since it's about Space, is episodic and seems unappealing from the first look. There is just certain anime, that I don't feel like trying them out, even if I might like them (ex: Gibli movies, Rurouni Kenshin, Hotarubi no Mori, Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell) Baccano! was one of the those, and what do you know, I actually enjoyed it, despite it being seemingly boring, when I first saw it's page. SolBlade said: From the little I've seen so far, it's the kind of anime that has a calming effect for restless days, so that was my reason for the suggestion. I see. Well, calming anime, have no particular effect on me, so I doubt I will appreciate that aspect of it. |
tsudecimoApr 23, 2014 6:39 PM
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