| Lately I've noticed a huge increase in deredere characters which featured in the center of spotlight. Whether a main heroine, second heroine or even a protagonist. So, does this means society has increased demands on character which doesn't act violently towards their main love interest? Some which caught my eyes during this season alone are: Kobeni, Uka-sama, Takao (yes she has tsundere lines but she didn't act like ones), Hiyori, and of course Onodera. And all of them are in the main casts. So, are you those who were also got swept in the middle of deredere waves? Or is it still inferior compared to your favorite tsundere? Or perhaps you don't even care about character tropes? Or are you perhaps likes deredere more since early days of your ani/manga life began? Also, which one is your favorite tsun/dere character? Let me hear your thoughts. note: The reason why I'm using tsundere as comparison is because it is still the most popular tropes in the ani/manga industry even as a joke characters or as a joke act. |
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| I hate deredere. No tsun, no fun. |
| Proud founder of the 20+ virgins club. Please visit my manga blog for manga updates and more! Mup da doo didda po mo muhfuggen bix nood ^ Need someone who can translate this. Pm me pls. |
| For some reason dere dere reminds me about moon moon.. maybe because both sound as silly. |
Shiratori99 said: I hate deredere. No tsun, no fun. Perhaps you can explain why no tsun is no fun? Kyonyo said: For some reason dere dere reminds me about moon moon.. maybe because both sound as silly. It has been there since Shiina Mafuyu or even way older. But never got caught in the spotlight because there is no 'GAP' or whatsoever so their characters being seen as 'uninteresting' |
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| Having it said I am Tsundere or even tsuntsun, no baka! Its not like I like them or anything and cackle in amussement at them! Jeeze. |
| A nice balance like Petralka from Outbreak Company. |
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| I like all tsunderes except for the ones that beats up the mc everytime he/she gets into an "accident" that resulted in a misunderstanding, or the ones that end their lines with "Baaaka!" 60% of the time. |
AsianKungFuMar 21, 2014 8:51 AM
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou |
| I love me some tsundere characters. |
| I used to be pretty damn tsundere like five years ago or so myself. As far as which I prefer in others it depends entirely on the character. |
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Aylaine said: Most tsundere's are horribly done in my opinion, whereas more deredere's tend to be designed better on average. The lack of bakax6 and physical abuse whenever something happens are welcome in tsundere's for me. Deredere's may bore people, but if they are given interesting quirks, a unique personality or some other way to distinguish them from just being a cute character, then they can be equally pleasing to watch as well. I personally love both, but deredere's are definitely my type of characters. I'm agree with you. Most tsundere were done horribly that it annoys me most of the time, and the dere sides didn't really worth it. Deredere sounds better, maybe the author didn't project himself (or ideal-self) when writing them. Or actually, most side characters are better than main because they don't get enough projection from the author, and deredere is a side character most of the time. |
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allflying said: Shiratori99 said: I hate deredere. No tsun, no fun. Perhaps you can explain why no tsun is no fun? What's a romance without bickering and quarreling? It's like eating food without spice, boring. xEmptiness said: That's like asking whether you want to: 1. Run 10 laps on the field before getting cake. 2. Get two cakes. There's nothing to discuss, the right option is clear. The journey is the reward. |
| Proud founder of the 20+ virgins club. Please visit my manga blog for manga updates and more! Mup da doo didda po mo muhfuggen bix nood ^ Need someone who can translate this. Pm me pls. |
| If you don't like Rie Kugimiya tsundere, you are such a baka. |
Shiratori99 said: allflying said: Shiratori99 said: I hate deredere. No tsun, no fun. Perhaps you can explain why no tsun is no fun? What's a romance without bickering and quarreling? It's like eating food without spice, boring. xEmptiness said: That's like asking whether you want to: 1. Run 10 laps on the field before getting cake. 2. Get two cakes. There's nothing to discuss, the right option is clear. The journey is the reward. Indeed and a reward earned is sweeter than one given. |
| I-it's not like I love tsunderes or anything, b-baka! |
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Shiratori99 said: allflying said: Shiratori99 said: I hate deredere. No tsun, no fun. Perhaps you can explain why no tsun is no fun? What's a romance without bickering and quarreling? It's like eating food without spice, boring. maybe we have different taste in romance. But for once, conflict should happens for a reason. And associating tsundere with romance conflict is a shallow understanding. |
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allflying said: Shiratori99 said: allflying said: Shiratori99 said: I hate deredere. No tsun, no fun. Perhaps you can explain why no tsun is no fun? What's a romance without bickering and quarreling? It's like eating food without spice, boring. maybe we have different taste in romance. But for once, conflict should happens for a reason. And associating tsundere with romance conflict is a shallow understanding. I'm not talking about serious conflicts, just everyday quarreling. There is and should be no reason for it other than the characters simply being themselves. I'm not into shoujoesque melodrama. |
| Proud founder of the 20+ virgins club. Please visit my manga blog for manga updates and more! Mup da doo didda po mo muhfuggen bix nood ^ Need someone who can translate this. Pm me pls. |
| Oh hell yes! http://ben-to.wikia.com/wiki/Ume_Shiraume Anyways, anyone who fears the "tsun" is a wuss and does not deserve the "dere" part. |
KyuuALMar 21, 2014 10:46 AM
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Shiratori99 said: allflying said: Shiratori99 said: allflying said: Shiratori99 said: I hate deredere. No tsun, no fun. Perhaps you can explain why no tsun is no fun? What's a romance without bickering and quarreling? It's like eating food without spice, boring. maybe we have different taste in romance. But for once, conflict should happens for a reason. And associating tsundere with romance conflict is a shallow understanding. I'm not talking about serious conflicts, just everyday quarreling. There is and should be no reason for it other than the characters simply being themselves. I'm not into shoujoesque melodrama. I see, perhaps you ever know Souta and Mahiru as an example everyday quarrel ≠ tsun attitude. Another one is Akihito and Mirai. Or even Hitagi and Koyomi. Or even Mashiroiro symphony, If you're asking for spice without tsun. From my part, I've been tsundere fans since Akane from Ranma 1/2. But it really gets old as of today, there are countless Kugimiya clones. The only one worth mentioning is perhaps palmtop Taiga. As a newtype, I choose Kayano Ai over Taketatsu Ayana. |
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| I like tsundere. I think I associate tsundere with self-respect and modesty somehow :D Though it could be that I like them just because I find them different than the typical girly girls IRL and therefore interesting. |
| I don't really like either. |
| At least in series with serious or dramatic qualities, I like complex characters regardless of archetype. The tsundere archetype can work well in these situations, especially if the underlying reasons for the character's behavior are explored and/or if additional layers of complexity are built upon the basic formula. As of this writing, the character pictured in my avatar is this type - Touko from Maria-sama ga Miteru. Her background and personality are explored in great detail, so the viewer (or reader of the light novels) comes to understand why she is a tsundere. In comedies, exaggerated or silly tsundere characters can be entertaining since their antics help to drive the humorous situations. Yuru Yuri features three very entertaining tsundere girls, all of whom could probably be classified as different sub-types of the archetype. This series is self conscious of this trope and plays it quite effectively for laughs. I wouldn't say that I always prefer tsundere characters over other types, but when well executed, they can definitely add to a series. The same is true, however, for straightforward nice and sweet types, and also for truly disturbing types like the yandere. |
| It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue. |
| Tsundere's can be more entertaining to watch but overdone. Deredere can be more lovable. There should be more deredere's who get close on the same person the tsundere is into and piss off the tsundere for being able to be more emotionally open. I dont mean passive aggressively but straight up fight. Then feel bad and fall for the deredere instead. |
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Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
| I voted tsun, though the line between entertaining and annoying can be thin. Shiratori99 said: Fun in the tsun, yeah?I hate deredere. No tsun, no fun. |
| deredere, tsun is often annoying. |
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| Tsunderes. I find the vulnerability they display with their temper kinda cute. I could relate to them anyway. |
| Nobody likes a retarded tsundere. |
an egomaniac and a fool |
Emnay said: Nobody likes a retarded tsundere. Nobody, huh? That's a very broad term. Nobody. |
Emnay said: Michiru says hiNobody likes a retarded tsundere. and just for the record being retarded =/= being unlikable |
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| what about the other deres like kamidere or himedere they tend to be interesting because they can cover some of the other deres |
| dont ask questions, just do answers |
| I prefer "not shitty" characters. You know, the kind whose entire existence is impossible to describe completely in one word. Like, the kind that takes actual effort and talent to write. Characters that feel like actual real people, not "anime characters". |
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| Tsundere. It's such a treat when their "dere" side shows through. |
| Mod note:Moved from Casual Discussion. |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
| I often find my self disliking tsundere characters HEAVILY, but still I sometimes come to like them. Especially like a poster said when they show there dere side it makes them super cute. With dere characters I don't like them nor dislike them, I'm neutral. |
Shadowslave13 said: I voted deredere but I prefer yandere. Why wasn't that up there? Because you didn't read my first post DalPuri said: Tsundere. It's such a treat when their "dere" side shows through. The gap side, isn't it? Unfortunately a fun chemistry like that is pretty rare. |
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| You need some tsun to have some fun |
| This poll should have been between classic Tsundere, and modern Tsundere. |
| I like tsunderes but I find it really hard to get an "original" one. I imaging dating a tsundere in real life would be brutal though. |
TheDarkLordOtaku said: Another one who didn't read #1This poll should have been between classic Tsundere, and modern Tsundere. Snakes said: Real life tsundere is pain in the arse to deal with. It was almost like they expect their partner to be able to read their mind.I like tsunderes but I find it really hard to get an "original" one. I imaging dating a tsundere in real life would be brutal though. In Keima's language: their parameter is too low, their flag is hard to notice, real is suck. |
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| I like ones that have depth. |
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gamer2710 said: I like ones that have depth. Asking for too much. |
allflying said: TheDarkLordOtaku said: Another one who didn't read #1This poll should have been between classic Tsundere, and modern Tsundere. Snakes said: Real life tsundere is pain in the arse to deal with. It was almost like they expect their partner to be able to read their mind.I like tsunderes but I find it really hard to get an "original" one. I imaging dating a tsundere in real life would be brutal though. In Keima's language: their parameter is too low, their flag is hard to notice, real is suck. I laughed, yeah Keima sounds spot on. I don't think I would even see a real life tsundere romantically. Rather just see them and think "damn this person is an ass!." |
PWJP said: I can still dream, right? I mean, there has to be one competent writer in all those shows.gamer2710 said: I like ones that have depth. Asking for too much. |
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TheDarkLordOtaku said: This poll should have been between classic Tsundere, and modern Tsundere. What is the classic Tsundere character like? I is nub |
Mullegun said: TheDarkLordOtaku said: This poll should have been between classic Tsundere, and modern Tsundere. What is the classic Tsundere character like? I is nub Classic: "Tsundere is a Japanese character development process which describes a person who is initially cold and even hostile towards another person before gradually showing their warm side over time. This change of behavior is permanent, and that's where the classic tsundere type is different form the modern tsundere." Modern: "A variation of the tsundere personality type which has the tsundere character switch between hostile and lovestruck personalities often, which is in contrast to the classic tsundere type where the change is gradual and permanent." |
TheDarkLordOtaku said: Mullegun said: TheDarkLordOtaku said: This poll should have been between classic Tsundere, and modern Tsundere. What is the classic Tsundere character like? I is nub Classic: "Tsundere is a Japanese character development process which describes a person who is initially cold and even hostile towards another person before gradually showing their warm side over time. This change of behavior is permanent, and that's where the classic tsundere type is different form the modern tsundere." Modern: "A variation of the tsundere personality type which has the tsundere character switch between hostile and lovestruck personalities often, which is in contrast to the classic tsundere type where the change is gradual and permanent." Oh. It's permanent! Why would they move away from the classic then?! That seems like a much better way of having a Tsundere character. Then again I think I haven't seen anime where it has a classic one in it. |
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