Little Busters!: Refrain Episode 1 Discussion

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CorpseDemon said:
I have a feeling it'll get alot better but right now it's all so very meh, it felt a bit rushed aswell and as if they expected the viewer to have just finished the first series.

Haven't you finished the first series?

Oct 5, 2013 8:49 AM

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haha of course, what I meant is that it felt unlike a first episode and more like the first series aired straight before, no building into anything and it just got straight into an arc.

Oct 5, 2013 8:52 AM

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CorpseDemon said:
haha of course, what I meant is that it felt unlike a first episode and more like the first series aired straight before, no building into anything and it just got straight into an arc.

it might feel a bit rushed but someone said this season is only going to be 13 episodes. If they want to adapt this decently they will move through this arc at a relatively quick pace to save time for Refrain (The only reason to adapt the entire VN)

Oct 5, 2013 8:53 AM

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DeathDoUsPart said:
Yea, we were all excited and happy about his episode, but someone has done there research and turns out we might only be getting 13 episodes after all, they checked the code of the refrain website and only goes up to "story 13" :/

http://oi40.tinypic.com/le1d0.jpg

Aww dang... but I guess it's alright as according to this:
VN Spoiler, DON'T READ IF HAVEN'T PLAYED VN!

badgerkins said:
My thoughts on how season 2 will go. DONT READ IF YOU HAVENT PLAYED REFRAIN THE VN.

First episode will be common route stuff to ease the viewers in. Maybe a little refresher on what happened in season 1.

First, getting Kurugayas route out of the way, that will be 3 eps.

Then Rin 2 for 4 eps.

Then we have Refrain for 5 eps.

Ep 9 - Flashes of images of the bus crash. Riki wakes up like usual. Its going like the first episode but instead Riki attempts to stop the fight but Masato and Kengo don't listen. He then tries to find Kyousuke but doesn't see him. He then gets deja-vu and wonders whether it has happened before. Riki then looks after the weakened Rin and wonders how she came to this state and consults Kyousuke but all he does is sulk. Riki and Rin play catchball. Kengo asks to do something fun because he can't do kendo due to breaking his arm in the fight so they climb out the class window. After, he suggests catchball with Rin and Masato but Kengo is acting odd but agrees. They play but then Kengo and Masato leave LB after Riki picks up the baseball bat.
Ep 10 - Riki ponders on what happened and asks Rin but she can't say anything but deep down knows something. They then try to reform LB with Riki being the new leader and asks Masato to join but he won't, vowing to become the strongest. We switch to his point of view and he narrates instead of Riki. He goes crazy and eventually is recruited with the fight and flashbacks to his past.
Ep 11 - Now with 3, they ask Kengo to join but he refuses. Riki learns from Masato and Rin that by defeating his father, he joined the gang. They go to his dojo but don't learn anything new. Eventually Riki confronts Kengo but he speaks in riddles. He goes to Kyousukes room and finds out Kengo is lying about something. Its the next day and the 3 watch Kengo closely in class. Riki sees that Kengo is using both his hands. Later, the gang come up with the plan to make Kengo use his broken arm. It works but Kengo is still being wishy washy with his answers. Riki challenges Kengo in a game of baseball. Now Kengo is narrating his side with flashes of the events of him cursing Kyousuke, catch ball with Rin and promising Riki to always protect him. We then come to the baseball match and he loses and joins LB.
Ep 12 - We're now in Kyousukes narrative. We get flashes of the events up to Rin 2 and reveals that hes the mastermind behind all the tasks. Now in the present, hes depressed and regretful and we see Riki, Rin and Masato asking him questions. He goes to sleep and we switch back and forth to the bus accident. Later, the 3 aswell as Kengo are in his room. Riki offers Kyousuke a hand and now the original members are back together and play baseball. One by one, they dissapear and Riki and Rin wake up in the bus accident but can only save themselves due to Rikis narcolepsy.
Ep 13 - Last episode. We see Rin runnung through school, seeing all the girls. We're then at the hospital with Riki in bed and Rin by his side. They both vow to become stronger and create their own world. Now we're back to Rin running through school again but nobody is there. She see Komari and makes a wish. We then go back to the bus crash and this time, Riki and Rin and able to save everybody. Forward in time and Riki wakes up to Rins singing. All the LB members come in one by one. Lastly, Kyousuke comes from the window and then we get the Little Jumpers ending and an awesome shot of them at the beach.

Anyway, would like to see others peoples speculations for next seasons episodes :]

Oct 5, 2013 8:55 AM

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*hug noises*

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Oct 5, 2013 8:56 AM

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CorpseDemon said:
I have a feeling it'll get alot better but right now it's all so very meh, it felt a bit rushed aswell and as if they expected the viewer to have just finished the first series.

CorpseDemon said:
haha of course, what I meant is that it felt unlike a first episode and more like the first series aired straight before, no building into anything and it just got straight into an arc.

I get what you mean. Yeah, it likely would've been for the better if they had included a few more scenes from the beginning of Kurugaya's route before getting to the point it has reached so far. But this arc is only getting 3 episodes, so it just can't be helped.

Oct 5, 2013 8:58 AM

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If this is only 1 cour then it will have the same fate as KamiNomi.

Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together.

Oct 5, 2013 8:58 AM

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Kurugaya... so damn scary. That part was animated so damn well..

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Oct 5, 2013 8:59 AM

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http://imageshack.us/a/img401/4070/eaow.png
dat Kurugaya rape face

Oct 5, 2013 9:04 AM

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I was surprised and yet not surprised by how fast that went. I expected it to be fast but... 1 episode. o.o

Oct 5, 2013 9:06 AM

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koagzero said:

DeathDoUsPart said:
Yea, we were all excited and happy about his episode, but someone has done there research and turns out we might only be getting 13 episodes after all, they checked the code of the refrain website and only goes up to "story 13" :/

http://oi40.tinypic.com/le1d0.jpg

Aww dang... but I guess it's alright as according to this:
VN Spoiler, DON'T READ IF HAVEN'T PLAYED VN!

badgerkins said:
My thoughts on how season 2 will go. DONT READ IF YOU HAVENT PLAYED REFRAIN THE VN.

First episode will be common route stuff to ease the viewers in. Maybe a little refresher on what happened in season 1.

First, getting Kurugayas route out of the way, that will be 3 eps.

Then Rin 2 for 4 eps.

Then we have Refrain for 5 eps.

Ep 9 - Flashes of images of the bus crash. Riki wakes up like usual. Its going like the first episode but instead Riki attempts to stop the fight but Masato and Kengo don't listen. He then tries to find Kyousuke but doesn't see him. He then gets deja-vu and wonders whether it has happened before. Riki then looks after the weakened Rin and wonders how she came to this state and consults Kyousuke but all he does is sulk. Riki and Rin play catchball. Kengo asks to do something fun because he can't do kendo due to breaking his arm in the fight so they climb out the class window. After, he suggests catchball with Rin and Masato but Kengo is acting odd but agrees. They play but then Kengo and Masato leave LB after Riki picks up the baseball bat.
Ep 10 - Riki ponders on what happened and asks Rin but she can't say anything but deep down knows something. They then try to reform LB with Riki being the new leader and asks Masato to join but he won't, vowing to become the strongest. We switch to his point of view and he narrates instead of Riki. He goes crazy and eventually is recruited with the fight and flashbacks to his past.
Ep 11 - Now with 3, they ask Kengo to join but he refuses. Riki learns from Masato and Rin that by defeating his father, he joined the gang. They go to his dojo but don't learn anything new. Eventually Riki confronts Kengo but he speaks in riddles. He goes to Kyousukes room and finds out Kengo is lying about something. Its the next day and the 3 watch Kengo closely in class. Riki sees that Kengo is using both his hands. Later, the gang come up with the plan to make Kengo use his broken arm. It works but Kengo is still being wishy washy with his answers. Riki challenges Kengo in a game of baseball. Now Kengo is narrating his side with flashes of the events of him cursing Kyousuke, catch ball with Rin and promising Riki to always protect him. We then come to the baseball match and he loses and joins LB.
Ep 12 - We're now in Kyousukes narrative. We get flashes of the events up to Rin 2 and reveals that hes the mastermind behind all the tasks. Now in the present, hes depressed and regretful and we see Riki, Rin and Masato asking him questions. He goes to sleep and we switch back and forth to the bus accident. Later, the 3 aswell as Kengo are in his room. Riki offers Kyousuke a hand and now the original members are back together and play baseball. One by one, they dissapear and Riki and Rin wake up in the bus accident but can only save themselves due to Rikis narcolepsy.
Ep 13 - Last episode. We see Rin runnung through school, seeing all the girls. We're then at the hospital with Riki in bed and Rin by his side. They both vow to become stronger and create their own world. Now we're back to Rin running through school again but nobody is there. She see Komari and makes a wish. We then go back to the bus crash and this time, Riki and Rin and able to save everybody. Forward in time and Riki wakes up to Rins singing. All the LB members come in one by one. Lastly, Kyousuke comes from the window and then we get the Little Jumpers ending and an awesome shot of them at the beach.

Anyway, would like to see others peoples speculations for next seasons episodes :]

Seems to me that episodes 9-13 are rushed. But in any case that this will only be 1 cour, I'll just have faith on JC Staff that they won't screw this up.

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Oct 5, 2013 9:06 AM

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Arcs not over yet

Oct 5, 2013 9:06 AM

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I never did get to Refrain in my play through. I stopped during Rin2 because I couldn't take how much of an asshole kyousuke became in it.

I mean what the fuck was that? uninstalled the game there and never looked back.

I thought the guy was my friend, and he wasn't. he was just a

asshole through and through.

Oct 5, 2013 9:11 AM

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@koagzero

That might actually work really well. Was expecting Refrain to be 2-cour and added a few more episodes to Kurugaya's route, but I'm not too disappointed with it being 1-cour. Fewer episodes can be a desirable thing since it would mean the budget would be less spread out.

Still, I can't help but remain somewhat skeptical. The pacing could certainly work in favor of animation, but what worries me is how well it's written. The shift of narration was definitely a great call. Dedicating an entire episode to certain scenes also seems very fitting. But the way the adaption of Rin2 looks on episode 8 leaves me with a little bit of doubt.

Oct 5, 2013 9:13 AM

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planetarian said:
I never did get to Refrain in my play through. I stopped during Rin2 because I couldn't take how much of an asshole kyousuke became in it.

I mean what the fuck was that? uninstalled the game there and never looked back.

I thought the guy was my friend, and he wasn't. he was just a

asshole through and through.

Oct 5, 2013 9:13 AM

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planetarian said:
hype bus!

lol i clicked to quote your post just so i can use the quote tags but i forgot to remove your name xD

Lol I guess we re eddited ourselves more than 4 times now?

Oct 5, 2013 9:15 AM

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kenshin_sama said:

planetarian said:
I never did get to Refrain in my play through. I stopped during Rin2 because I couldn't take how much of an asshole kyousuke became in it.

I mean what the fuck was that? uninstalled the game there and never looked back.

I thought the guy was my friend, and he wasn't. he was just a

asshole through and through.

Im sure he played refrain more than once

Oct 5, 2013 9:15 AM

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Also remember I called the montage of shota Riki for my signature....
I called shot gun and no one can call Rosa Park because that is a

CHEAAAAAAAAAAAAAP TRICCCCCCCCCK

Oct 5, 2013 9:15 AM

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smilewolfy said:

planetarian said:
I never did get to Refrain in my play through. I stopped during Rin2 because I couldn't take how much of an asshole kyousuke became in it.

I mean what the fuck was that? uninstalled the game there and never looked back.

I thought the guy was my friend, and he wasn't. he was just a

asshole through and through.

......I have no words D:

Well i can understand. Kyousuke is my hero, but during Rin2, I just felt betrayed for some reason.

Oct 5, 2013 9:19 AM

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really not a sad day in the slightest.

you have no idea how happy i am right now

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Oct 5, 2013 9:22 AM

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Oh God, please spare me from more Komarimax!

The pacing felt kinda fast, but we'll see. Wasn't a bad episode or anything 4/5.

Oct 5, 2013 9:22 AM

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Funya-Usagi said:
really not a sad day in the slightest.

you have no idea how happy i am right now

You and I both! When I thought about Refrain being 13 episodes, I had to try really hard to remain optimistic. Now, there isn't a doubt in my mind that Refrain will be as amazing as I'd want it to be.

Oct 5, 2013 9:35 AM

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Anyway, high budget in my Little Busters! WTF!?

Kuruguya is confirmed as the best gir (DAT KICK), even though all those rape face from her and the two other girls were quite ridiculous. I won't even talk about how cliche and lame the whole scene when Riki discovered the bullies was. Anyway, I don't have really high hope for this anime, the comedy parts were as lame as ever, and I still hate most of the cast.

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Love is a song

Oct 5, 2013 9:37 AM

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OH MY GOD! They have improved everything! If this is a sign of things to come, refrain is going to be perfect! :)

Oct 5, 2013 9:38 AM

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I'm happy that there's gonna be 26 episodes, I didn't think there would be only 13 though so I'm not surprised

Oct 5, 2013 9:38 AM

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Kurugaya just skyrocketed into best girl in cast for me with just that scene alone. Oh yes, I am excite for the next episode to come

Oct 5, 2013 9:40 AM

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http://i.imgur.com/PUMhuX5.png
Can someone explain this scene to me please? Dwarfs??

Oct 5, 2013 9:40 AM

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I don't like how bullying had to be the catalyst for Kurugaya's route, looking back at it now. I can't wait till they get passed Tonokawa's shitty writing and get to Rin2 and Refrain ;3

Oct 5, 2013 9:40 AM

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koagzero said:

SakurasouBusters said:
The first episode is completely subbed now on Gogoanime.com :)

Crap I have to rewatch it with subs now.. T_T and I was supposed to study for exams today dammnn

And there's one guy who "Hated it" alr according to the poll DX

Damn!But anything can wait when it comes to Refrain right? :)

Oct 5, 2013 9:40 AM

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Stark700 said:
http://i.imgur.com/PUMhuX5.png
Can someone explain this scene to me please? Dwarfs??

That'll be spoilers if anyone will explain.

Oct 5, 2013 9:41 AM

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Stark700 said:
http://i.imgur.com/PUMhuX5.png
Can someone explain this scene to me please? Dwarfs??

Komaris short story

Oct 5, 2013 9:42 AM

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Oh I see. I'll stay to find out then ~

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egnaro315 said:

Stark700 said:
http://i.imgur.com/PUMhuX5.png
Can someone explain this scene to me please? Dwarfs??

Komaris short story

I bet he's looking for the meaning behind that story.

Oct 5, 2013 9:43 AM

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SakurasouBusters said:

koagzero said:

SakurasouBusters said:
The first episode is completely subbed now on Gogoanime.com :)

Crap I have to rewatch it with subs now.. T_T and I was supposed to study for exams today dammnn

And there's one guy who "Hated it" alr according to the poll DX

Damn!But anything can wait when it comes to Refrain right? :)

Yep, there are a lot of people on /a/ and crap who hate Clannad but liked After Story, and disliked the heroine routes but liked Refrain. It'l happen with the anime as well, for the people don't like the heroines but stick through it to see what the hype is about.

Oct 5, 2013 9:45 AM

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Stark700 said:
http://i.imgur.com/PUMhuX5.png
Can someone explain this scene to me please? Dwarfs??

it was in the first season after they help the dwarves they disappear

Oct 5, 2013 9:45 AM

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Vladz0r said:
I don't like how bullying had to be the catalyst for Kurugaya's route, looking back at it now. I can't wait till they get passed Tonokawa's shitty writing and get to Rin2 and Refrain ;3

Well, yeah, Tonokawa is a pretty bad writer. Gotta admit though, his characters do at least have a certain charm to them. Just can't help but love Shizuru, Chihaya, Kurugaya, and Komari. ^^

Oct 5, 2013 9:52 AM

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Ain't no party like a pancake party. :D

Glad this show is back I missed it.

Oct 5, 2013 9:55 AM

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This:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1264969_517992164956048_1318044223_o.jpg

Rin so kawaii! :D

Oct 5, 2013 9:56 AM

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Stark700 said:
Oh I see. I'll stay to find out then ~

What we learned from season one is that Komari created a story...
The story is that each dwarf has a problem to be solved and the guy and girl helps each dwarf and the dwarfs dissapear

Oct 5, 2013 9:56 AM

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SO glad they are keeping the romance in this route. Also so glad they have departed from the kyoto style of doing things.

Oct 5, 2013 9:58 AM

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I knew Kurugaya was awesome but damn. This is a fantastic start.

Oct 5, 2013 10:05 AM

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Rushed the whole Kurugaya route? Feels bad.

Or at least, it's a very different approach to it.

Oct 5, 2013 10:07 AM

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Kami-Sama staffing never dissapoints