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| This anime was great I loved it. However, the ending kinda confused me. Did Hajime take Berg-Katze inside herself body? If so Why? But beside that the ending was great the city was saved and the citizens have the power of crowds. Overall, this was a great anime. |
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alexsamuelss said: I logged in just to give you guys this information. It seems like the original episode 11 was too long to play on TV. So they replace the episode 11's Part A(first half) with the special theme(I believe it was originally planned for a extra episode) and moved the orignal Part A to Part B. Episode 11's Part B was moved to episode 12's Part A and so on. This is why the ending doesn't seem to be complete. Episode 12's Part B is pretty much all taken out. There was an article where the director of Gatchaman Crowd apologized for this. So, if we want to see what exactly happened in episode 12, we may have to wait.... Possibly until the Blueray Disc version come out. Here is a picture of the apology http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/64a00586gw1e926unwxdxj20c80lajta.jpg don't click this if you don't trust the site. I couldn't find the original article. I only saw people discussing about it. ^ THIS. THANKS. LOVING YA ! |
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| The ending was.... EHHHHH ???????????????????? but whatever, I enjoy this series, more reasons for me to start job-hunting to buy the BD box set. 10/10 |
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| I've been thinking about it and here's my theory... Could it be possible that Hajime and Katze were connected the entire time? This may sound weird but here's how I think about it... Hajime and Katze are total opposites, but at the same time they're very similar. In their own ways both of them act very similar, except for the fact that one is on the good side, and the other is on the bad. Both of them have extremely playful personalities and even when they talk you can possibly see similarities. Also, how come Hajime could never see Katze, but everyone else did? That seems weird. Even if you think that in the last episode Hajime somehow merged with Katze, the question is how? Katze seemed to be a pretty strong foe, even after seeing his fight with OD, so how can Hajime just merge him with her without anyone seeing it and no explanation? What made me think about this is how Hajime could never see Katze and what really blows my mind is the fact that Katze used scissors on OD and even when he first went to where JJ and OD was Katze had scissors in his hand, and we all know that Hajime uses scissors; you could possibly even consider her hand gestures to be scissor motions. I know that there are still plenty holes in that theory, but it just seems weird that Katze used scissors on OD. |
alexsamuelss said: Martrezzz said: I know that there are still plenty holes in that theory, but it just seems weird that Katze used scissors on OD. I believe that is actually JJ's scissor. It flew up from the platform when Katze kicked it. Dang you're right!! Hmmm.... I really don't know then. Like I said I knew there were holes in my theory, but after seeing what you said I definitely don't think it's possible. Everything seems even more weird and confusing to me now! |
Martrezzz said: I've been thinking about it and here's my theory... Could it be possible that Hajime and Katze were connected the entire time? This may sound weird but here's how I think about it... Hajime and Katze are total opposites, but at the same time they're very similar. In their own ways both of them act very similar, except for the fact that one is on the good side, and the other is on the bad. Both of them have extremely playful personalities and even when they talk you can possibly see similarities. Also, how come Hajime could never see Katze, but everyone else did? That seems weird. Even if you think that in the last episode Hajime somehow merged with Katze, the question is how? Katze seemed to be a pretty strong foe, even after seeing his fight with OD, so how can Hajime just merge him with her without anyone seeing it and no explanation? What made me think about this is how Hajime could never see Katze and what really blows my mind is the fact that Katze used scissors on OD and even when he first went to where JJ and OD was Katze had scissors in his hand, and we all know that Hajime uses scissors; you could possibly even consider her hand gestures to be scissor motions. I know that there are still plenty holes in that theory, but it just seems weird that Katze used scissors on OD. Katze using scissors was a sign to me as well that Hajime and Katze are two sides of the same coin, that coin being human nature. So in essence they were always one, just separated, and each of them was trying to change the world to their ways. In the end the good won out, which allowed Hajime to absorb Katze (the good absorbing the evil in the world) instead of vice versa. If you pay attention to the dialogue between Katze and OD, Katze mentions it wasn't Katze who destroyed his planet, it was OD using his powers too much that destroyed his planet, which brings additional weight to OD's trust in Hajime. He knew Katze could never be beaten without losing a piece of yourself, so above all others OD knew that Hajime was the answer who refused to fight the bad part in ourselves and instead opted to make being good more rewarding, which was the overall point of the series I think. Some have already mentioned it but people using the CROWDS seemed more exciting for getting points for saving and helping people than they did for actually saving and helping people. And that's the human nature. We are looking for ways to reward ourselves for our actions, so unless we're being rewarded for our kindness, we're most likely to be selfish. Regardless, I do think there are still too many questions left unanswered, and it's a huge shame because it starts to become a thing for Nakamura Kenji to mess up toward the end of a series. Still, I enjoyed the series a lot and give it a 8/10, and I hope we really get some better closure in the form of an OVA or (please make it happen!) second season. |
| Ara ara. |
| Gay-chan?! lol it was fun while it lasted i don't really know what to say |
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| Katze become a +1 to Hajime's cup size, mamamia! |
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| Meh ending. So like, OD died. Hajime somehow fused with Katze.Well, at least Crowds were left existing. I guess S2 or movie (BD extras then?) will come later to explain stuff. Feels like those last 2 episodes of NGE. alexsamuelss said: I logged in just to give you guys this information. It seems like the original episode 11 was too long to play on TV. So they replace the episode 11's Part A(first half) with the special theme(I believe it was originally planned for a extra episode) and moved the orignal Part A to Part B. Episode 11's Part B was moved to episode 12's Part A and so on. This is why the ending doesn't seem to be complete. Episode 12's Part B is pretty much all taken out. There was an article where the director of Gatchaman Crowd apologized for this. So, if we want to see what exactly happened in episode 12, we may have to wait.... Possibly until the Blueray Disc version come out. Here is a picture of the apology http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/64a00586gw1e926unwxdxj20c80lajta.jpg don't click this if you don't trust the site. I couldn't find the original article. I only saw people discussing about it. Ah, that answers my last point. NGE ending ftw. |
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| NOOOO OD SAN! WHO WILL BE MY GAY-CHAN NOW ? :'( The world was saved though. Hajime and Utsutsu so cute! OST is just love 10/10 don't care what others think~ |
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| I find the lack of Utsu-tsu in this episode...disturbing. |
| 8/10 I don't really know what to say. Yes, it was confusing but that's the reason I loved it. I really hope we get some explanation in the BD. |
| Vague conclusion of what happened to Berg Katze (is he just there invisible and everybody else is ignoring him?). And no mourning or conclusion of what happened to OD. They should at least give a proper conclusion. I'm not satisfied unless there's at least an OVA to wrap things up. |
| Well, uhh, I liked the OP and Mamoru Miyano's performance. |
| ??? Unsatisfying, rushed clusterfuck. Well, it was a good first half. |
infinitymonkey said: After seeing all that, now I'm positive that Katze is the reflection of the "darkness" inside everyone and the reason why Hajime cannot see him is because of the absence of the said "darkness" in her. When Hajime absorbed Katze, it created a balance between them. This is where Hajime's belief about "nothing is pure white or pure black" with Hajime representing former and Katze being the latter. Nice ending. Gonna miss this show. I think your theory makes absolute sense - it explains a lot of things I wasn't too sure about. Thanks for sharing this with us. :) I really liked the ending, may it be incomplete or not, and i liked, that they only hinted to some things. Yeah, some information was clearly missing, but I rather like it this way than the "overexplaining" some other series do. I like it when my imagination, intelligence and attention are challenged. "Gatchaman Crowds" wasn't big on explaination since episode 1 anyways. And an ending like that, in my opinion, encourages a deeper and more interesting conversation/discussion afterwards. (That's why i liked "Donnie Darko" so much - you had to watch it several times, browse through the web and/or read "The Philosophy of Time Travel" to fully understand everything. I spent hours discussing this movie with friends. Aah, good times. :D) |
| not what i expected, but still a good final episode. 7/10 alexsamuelss said: I logged in just to give you guys this information. It seems like the original episode 11 was too long to play on TV. So they replace the episode 11's Part A(first half) with the special theme(I believe it was originally planned for a extra episode) and moved the orignal Part A to Part B. Episode 11's Part B was moved to episode 12's Part A and so on. This is why the ending doesn't seem to be complete. Episode 12's Part B is pretty much all taken out. There was an article where the director of Gatchaman Crowd apologized for this. So, if we want to see what exactly happened in episode 12, we may have to wait.... Possibly until the Blueray Disc version come out. Here is a picture of the apology http://ww3.sinaimg.cn/large/64a00586gw1e926unwxdxj20c80lajta.jpg don't click this if you don't trust the site. I couldn't find the original article. I only saw people discussing about it. thanks! this explains a lot. Klutz said: (That's why i liked "Donnie Darko" so much - you had to watch it several times, browse through the web and/or read "The Philosophy of Time Travel" to fully understand everything. I spent hours discussing this movie with friends. Aah, good times. :D) One of my fav movies :D |
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| Woah the fight between OD and Katse was awesome so did OG die? and at the last part Katse trolling Hajime hahaha |
| I dont get it, the ending was so bland/boring/no closure? And what happend to OD? There are to many questions that are/werent answered... 6/10 |
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phantom19 said: Wow what a satisfying ending!! Out of the shows I watched this season, this one is definitely AOTS. Incredible OST and very likable characters. The art style was a little strange but I felt it went well with the whole futuristic vibe. There are a lot of things I want to say but I will make one point in particular. I think this show did a good job in showing how most people are. I think at times I forget that most people aren't nice or willing to help others. The riddle that Berg comes up for Hajime illustrates this point. However, Hajime asks what makes a hero? Notice that the Crowds users were at first using the power to wreck havoc since they had this newfound ability. No one was really using it to try and stop the other "bad users". It wasn't until Rui comes up with the idea of it being a game and gaining points do the people start to fight against the criminals. So these now "do-gooders", should they be considered heroes? Their helping is now secondary to them gaining for themselves points and trying to out do one another. Notice when that woman who saved the grandfather and child. She was more concerned with the points she'd get than with the actual saving. So both sides of the fight are acting on self interest. So what exactly makes a hero? Very strong way to put that good and evil aren't so clear cut and possibly don't exist. Again, this was AOTS without a doubt. I don't rank usually but I'll give this an 8/10 solid. ...Hajime answers this by singing: "everyone is a hero." Hajime always agreed with Rui. It's even in the interviews. Galax helped her, after all, she adhered to Galax's viewpoint, but added her own application too. The only time they clashed was about the Gatchaman place in the world which Rui came into terms with it (and his own insecurity, that's why his Note changes to a regular Gatchaman Note). |
| The only thing good about this show is Rui sexy legs 5/10 |
| I enjoyed OD vs Katze while it lasted... Overall was a pretty underwhelming ending. At the end, I was assuming that Hajime was just talking to Katze like normal. I thought the series started better than it ended (had good energy)... it kept losing steam as it went though. 4/10 (below average) |
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| sigh, typical nakamura ending with little closure and some confusion. My series score is 7/10, was a solid 8 before this last episode... |
| Uh-huh, after what alexsamuelss said, I get why the series feels incomplete - there're literally quite a few things skipped in the finale. Looks like we gotta wait till the BD Box comes out in January to get the full picture... |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| I really expected more of the ending. The date was left off screen which was sad. The solution to solving the Crowds was also poorly done. However the the mc, Hajime, was really memorable and well voiced so thats a plus. 8/10 |
| Only if it had one more episode for proper ending with proper pace. |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
| GATCHA OFF! XD damn OD is really awesome :3 wait IS HE DEAD? I'M NOT SEEING HIM IN THE END! and katze henshin AWESOME too :3 damn I really want galax application in real world lol :3 |
| Wow what. ... I MEAN ... SRLSLY?!???? Katze became Hajimes boobs or what? And whats happened with OD-san and Utsutsu und Jou-san?!???????? OD-SAN?!???? I was like "Cry and cry more", I don't get it?!????? |
| I liked the ending. then again, I do tend to like shows that doesn't force explanations to everything. The message was really good and although executed weirdly, I found it enjoyable and it was wrapped up rather well. Here are my thoughts on some aspects: Hajime/Katze: they are both right and what they say is sensible. They are similar in the way of perceiving the surroundings, they differ in execution. that's why they get along rather too well. Hajime absorbing Katze was a smart move I did not expect. whether with fists or words, she managed to tame -not kill- him. Why now not earlier? most likely because she couldn't until now, whether he was physically weakened after his fight with OD, or after he was spiritually down after being ignored by everyone. As they frequently mention, Katze doesn't destroy things directly but rather choose to n=manipulate. So killing him is not necessary, ignoring him is enough, we all learned not to feed the troll. JJ: why isn't he doing anything? because it's not his job. he is there to gives the gift of gatchaman and prophecies. what beings do with these gifts is their business. Heroism: is not easy to define. if you do a heroic act with not so heroic intentions, are you still a hero? if you wanted to help someone but ended doing something bad, are you evil? what is more important, the act or the intent? 8/10 |
TooFy said: I liked the ending. then again, I do tend to like shows that doesn't force explanations to everything. The message was really good and although executed weirdly, I found it enjoyable and it was wrapped up rather well. Here are my thoughts on some aspects: Hajime/Katze: they are both right and what they say is sensible. They are similar in the way of perceiving the surroundings, they differ in execution. that's why they get along rather too well. Hajime absorbing Katze was a smart move I did not expect. whether with fists or words, she managed to tame -not kill- him. Why now not earlier? most likely because she couldn't until now, whether he was physically weakened after his fight with OD, or after he was spiritually down after being ignored by everyone. As they frequently mention, Katze doesn't destroy things directly but rather choose to n=manipulate. So killing him is not necessary, ignoring him is enough, we all learned not to feed the troll. JJ: why isn't he doing anything? because it's not his job. he is there to gives the gift of gatchaman and prophecies. what beings do with these gifts is their business. Heroism: is not easy to define. if you do a heroic act with not so heroic intentions, are you still a hero? if you wanted to help someone but ended doing something bad, are you evil? what is more important, the act or the intent? 8/10 Your explanation of the ending made feel better on why episode 12 ended the way it did. Thank you |
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-MgZ_ said: 8/10 I don't really know what to say. Yes, it was confusing but that's the reason I loved it. I really hope we get some explanation in the BD. You took the words out of my mouth! |
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| Great till the end, dafuq just happened i get that she somehow 'absorbed' Katze, but it wasn't a proper ending at ALL, it was just so abrupt like they ran out of time! >.<!!!!! I loved the show till the end, would've given it 9/10 if not for the ending. They better do a sequel OVA at least. /sad 8/10 |
Professorohki said: Some people loving the ending, some people hating the ending, everyone debating it on GALA- er, the Internet - 10/10 for the well-played meta-ending. Wow, congrats on your first post, senpai! |
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| great ending!!! been waiting for this kind of series. |
| Heart pumping episode!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Well that was a rather odd ending... I wish they would have explained what went down between Katze and Hajime, but it was still an interesting series, but not one of my favorites of the season... 8/10 |
| And I called it. Back when Katze first appeared I said I could see epic action at the end but definitely the consistent message in this anime is that violence and confrontation is not the way to go and so I predicted Katze would not be defeated at the end but would only be tamed. And so it seems to turn out, even though how he was tamed is not explained. I can see definitely the episode runs out of space and story gets jumpy near the end. What alexsamuelss said about ep.11 being too long puzzles me - if they cut out the recap part of ep.11 part A, shouldn't it be 12 minutes or so extra space for the final actions? I wonder whether the real reason is not ep.11 being too long for TV broadcast but in fact the staff ran out of time to make ep.11 and so stuff half of the episode with recap footage which ended up meaning insufficient space to tell the whole story. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
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