Japanese Government to Start Anti-Anime/Manga Piracy Operation Next Month [Update 7/30]

Naruleach said:
News Update The press release includes a PowerPoint that contains an actual list of websites they are targeting.

direct download websites (slide 16), [/url]

DerpHole said:
People always like to cite these huge numbers about how much money they're losing to piracy... like 5.5 billion dollars.

Practically speaking however, these "losses" are a lot less than they are purported to be - simply because if piracy wasn't available, then those potential consumers likely wouldn't ever experience your content at all.

Just because 1 million people "stole" your movie/TV show or whatever, does not magically mean that those 1 million people would have bought your product if piracy wasn't a thing.

Seiryuu2 said:


Aaaah, Animeultima.tv & Animeplus.tv is on their target list. Including Kissanime as well.
Mangareader, Mangafox,and Mangahere. The top 3 big sites of reading manga online and the top 3 that are on the top of the list. Following with mangapanda and mangastream :O
They are hitting the big fish.

AO968 said:


Talk about being delusional.

Content creators will be paid the same, piracy or no piracy. The only ones benefiting from this are the publishers, the people the content creators have sold their souls to and they have already so much money, it's ridiculous.

The issue isn't about whether or not people get paid for their product, it's about them not being able to control what we see, where we see it, how we see it, etc. Because of p2p, we became the ones in control, and they don't like that, claiming it costs the content providers money, which is a complete and utter lie over the backs of said content creators. And the actual creators don't fight back, because they're caught between speaking up and lose their contract or stay quiet and get what they get. All the publishers lose is the money from marketing, which is less than the money they're pumping in this anti-piracy campaign, and that can be easily dealt with if they use the internet to their advantage.



How can you NOT understand this? When you have millions of people around the world who can freely access something they've never seen or heard before, how is this NOT the best form of free advertisement you can get?

[url-=http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/digital-piracy-not-harming-entertainment-industries-study-1.1894729]Studies[/url] show that piracy is a very effective tool to help boost sales (in this case music, but it works for movies and anime as well, as the underlying principle is exactly the same). After all, if people what they see, they're more inclined to buy. Without this free and unlimited access to free anime and manga, I wouldn't even be here. The sole reason I became an anime/manga fan is because of piracy.

if they want to fight piracy, they have to offer each and every anime ever made with (at least) English subtitles, no DRM, region lock or any other restriction, in high quality for stream and download. And they can charge a small fee for it if they feel the need to, we're not that stingy. However, because I'm sure they're not going to do that (because that takes effort and money), piracy will always exist.



They can't pull it off because they think everyone will just do whatever they say without protest. Wanna bet that only a handful of those sites will do so and that the rest will just chug along like nothing ever happened? Sure, they can have those sites blocked, but the sites are merely a front. The people behind those sites will still go on their merry little way. And it's not like these sites cannot just pop up elsewhere and continue their operations.

If you want to stop piracy, offer a better product than them, get rid of the pointless restrictions and give the people exactly what they want. Right now, they're not doing that, so piracy is there to fulfill the market the industry itself is ignoring.

Naruleach said:
News Update
METI (Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry) has published a press release stating 500 manga works and 80 anime works are being targeted, not websites. The press release includes a PowerPoint that contains an actual list of websites they are targeting. Included are scanlation sites (slides 11-12), fansub upload websites (slides 13-15), direct download websites (slide 16), torrent sites (slides 17-18), and redistribution websites (slides 19-20).

hehe652 said:
Oh god.... what if mangafox, nyaa and all those "big fish" has been taken down.... where are be suppose to watch/read anime/manga....

j0x said:


IRC/XDCC downloading, old school style

j0x said:


IRC/XDCC downloading, old school style

ReaperCreeper said:
Why are there people on here taking this seriously, it'll crash and burn, relax.

hehe652 said:

I am legitimately afraid about this Operation...

kuuderes_shadow said:
I am legitimately laughing at everyone who seems to be treating this as the end of the world or something.

Nanaca said:


The most Operation Pirate Bap could do is a few more people finally learning how to torrent.

Seiryuu2 said:
It seems we are misunderstanding something.
The news itself said they are targeting manga and anime works, not the websites itself.
Most likely, they only wanted the targeted manga and anime deleted from the sites are listed on the table list.

Immahnoob said:

Thank you, Cpt.Obvious.

That's why it's even worse, it'll never happen, hehe.

phoenixalia said:
Hmmm. Saw the manga-anime-here website.

Most of the stuff is shounen stuff I do not read. Only shoujo stuff available is like 2% of what I read. Most shoujo manga are old manga. Let's click one of the only titles I'm interested in. Viz Media, 10 dollars, and available in the United States of America. Ok, let's try the kindle version! Nope, not available in my country.

Is there anything there that's available in India? Probably not. Don't get me wrong, I don't like supporting piracy but I have no choice. I have no Crunchyroll, no Funimation, no Hulu etc. etc. And US anime DVDs will not work in my player, not to mention the cost of shipping it to India.

I see why Japan is doing this but they're going about it the wrong way. Make stuff available without dumb region locks, then do all this stuff.

Hoppy said:


Have you seen the site that they are so called going to stop piracy with? It looks dreadful and the PV for it was dreadful, it has no variety, and the Japanese government should be ashamed of even trying, and the studios are confirmed to be nothing but corporate tyrants, biting the hand that feeds them (didn't their mothers teach them not to bite the hand that feeds them or a similar proverb). If it wasn't for piracy, the industry would've died in the mid 2000's. Stop supporting these tyrannical entities, the government there isn't out to protect anime as they say, they've nearly destroyed the industry 3 times with their so called "laws". As for the studios, as much as I like them to protect their products, they are doing it in a way that constitutes severe corporate tyranny and needs to go back to the drawing board.

For anyone who resides in Japan that comes into this topic, consider writing politely to the anime studios and the Japanese government for these following changes:

1. Cut the price of BDs/DVDs, the stuff is too expensive for what it's worth, very few anime are worth $350-400 much less $700-$3000+. I'm saying this from experience.

2. Launch a true region free download service for both televised anime and BD/DVDs. I'm sorry but those prices need to go way down so more people can support the industry and if a price cut on physical discs won't do, this is a surefire way. Whoever makes the service can consider finding US or South Korean technicians, programmers, web designers and such to make this service decent if not perfect or near perfect. It needs to have variety unlike the site the government put up, get everyone imaginable on board, lower licensing fees, the works. This service can be used for manga and light novels as well. Also the DRM must not be detrimental or intrusive, think Steam. This service must work on mobile devices (I read downloaded LNs and manga on a tablet). It also must be affordable, something like $10-$30 US a year tops.

3. If possible, bring more merchandise outside of Japan at least the figures.

scruffykiwi said:
Do you really want Japan to be infested with the crap that is considered successful in the west?? Reality show, cop shows, idol, cooking. It makes me shudder!

sweetsymphony said:
Well this is just heartbreaking (even though this operation has a low chance for success) im still nervous about what's going to happen next. I mean getting legit streaming services like crunchyroll and paying online. I mean crunchy doesnt even air half of my watch list per season and other animes doesnt even get licensed for like forever. Actually I got into anime because of these fansubs and it really made me discover it and supporting the anime itself by buying blu rays, figures,nendoroids and now this? :c

SchwarzeFlammen said:
Piracy will never truly be taken care of, I hate to say it. I honestly think business models and localization need to change if they really want to make a profit.

Like they say, you need to spend money to make money.

Heredity said:
they already have all that. what do you think the other 125m people watch on tv?

StardustNyako said:
They spend plnty of money making the anime itself. That's no excuse for piracy -_-

kuuderes_shadow said:
I am legitimately laughing at everyone who seems to be treating this as the end of the world or something.

Heredity said:
they already have all that. what do you think the other 125m people watch on tv?

StardustNyako said:
They spend plnty of money making the anime itself. That's no excuse for piracy -_-

Des said:
Bye bye anime and manga business, it was a fun time having you in this world. Shame lots of the companies will definitly go bankrupt now.
*sarcastic clap for the retarded japanese government* Thought you guys were smart, guess not. Piracy creates awareness about something, making more people get into it and later buy it. Anime and manga will never become mainstream media for sure now.
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when I hear the companies starting to struggle even more.

TicklingThoughts said:
Sit down. Try not to cry. Cry a lot.

Lacertoss said:
I don't see the purpose of all this, honestly. They don't even care for the western consumer market in the first place, so why would they try to regulate it? It will probably only do more harm.