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Omnicast said: AnimageNeby said: symbv said: Kagurawest said: This is quite an absurd claim to make. Why he is not doing the right thing for his country or as a soldier or for humanity? It seems that you are using the standard of the present world and its circumstances to judge how Ledo should act as a soldier. And I am not even sure where the "humanity" part comes from. As for country, well, all he knows is everything is under the Federation except for a few space nomads, and then there is the enemy. At least he is trying to adapt to the situation where what he sees does not fit into that long-held understanding he has held.Well I do understand that having a ultimate weapon can help him to get what he wants. So he is doing the right thing for himself. But he is not doing the right thing for his country or as a soldier nor for humanity itself. So I concluse that his act is ignorant and selfish. This. It's pretty clear, I thought. He comes from a military background, been probably in the army since his birth, and his society is one of...well...how should I put it? In the first episode, I rather got the feeling they were a bit...arrogant? With the "all hail to the glorious human (well, Alliance) race" and needing to wipe out the flower-squid race for the glorious goal of human supremacy and all that... I dunno. Sure, it might be that it's truly and only a matter of survival, but I got the feeling Reds' culture/civilisation is pretty much a militaristic-imperialistic one. They clearly value life on different terms than us, and are more like a class-society. (Otherwise, they wouldn't have focussed on the 'eligible to live/procreate' because he was worthy and shown to be a superior example of the human species.) We got too few info about his society to be sure, but I don't think it's all that utopian, at least not in the sense of 'equal for all'. And they are very strict and relaying on 'rules'. As someone else here said; the first thing he said when his commanding officer said he was going to sacrifice himself to help the others (and Red) escape, was: "That's against the rules". That is pretty poignant and a clear indication of how that society is regulated: very hierarchical. No "Thank you!" or "Don't do it!" or whatever, just that it goes against regulations. Hardly anyone in our society would have such a reaction. Also hinted throughout the episodes, is that their culture/society is very pragmatical on a rational basis; emotions are subdued. We see that in his lack of fear, his strange look at the antics of Amy when she was dancing of excitement (great scene, that ;-)), the analytical prowess that he and his AI portrays in the context of give-and-take and balancing the pro's and con's, etc. In regard to the killing: as some have said; this is fully normal for him. It makes perfect sense and is quite logical, seen from his viewpoint. His perception of the world is more like this: 1) "we", his group, the Alliance 2) Other humans outside the Alliance 3) enemies It's a very 'we versus them' worldview, but that is to be expected, as, in more than one regard, it IS a we versus them, to survive. And an army always tries to portray everything in black and white anyway (them being white, and the opponents black). The first is obviously ranked the highest; it's his whole life, after all. He's a soldier, in an army, and that army are his friends/college 's, nakama and fellow-soldiers and the Avalon society as a whole. It's the primary 'we' he identifies with. The second...one could say it doesn't matter to him, but this is not entirely true. We can see this, for instance, with his consideration of not damaging the bulkhead, because he thought it could be the void / empty space outside, and the people inside would all suffocate. So he had *some* concern for them, even though he already suspected they were not of the Alliance, but wandering low-tech nomads. This concern points to the fact that, while not as important as members of the Alliance, there is still put *some* worth to other members of the human race. Of course, this importance is not all that huge, and it's not something that will be allowed to come in his way (at least, at this point) towards his goal. Which is why he has little trouble killing off the pirates. Obviously he knew they were human, but they weren't Alliance. In fact, they were indicated as *the enemy*, EVEN by the non-Alliance people around him requesting his help, and with whom he desired a working-relation so he had a fall-back plan if he had to wait for the Alliance to pick him up. It was a pragmatic and rational decision, thus, for his own benefit. Now, to get to this goal, he had to get rid of the enemy: those pirates. Once they were designated and catalogued as the enemy, he knew/had only one way to deal with them, and that was how he has learned to deal with enemies his whole life: as completely, thoroughly and ruthlessly as possible. In fact, while the crew is shocked by the immensity of what he has done (and how he did it, with such casual ease), and probably treat him with fear or/and disgust, *he* probably now thinks he has done a good job, efficiently and it being a complete success. In his mindview (and that of the society to which he belongs), defeating the enemy in that way would earn him appraisal. It will be interesting to see how this pans out in the next episode, since obviously, the worldviews of both societies collide drastically on this point. For him, it's a job well done, for the crew it's complete overkill. The crew - if they had the power - would probably have threatened, maybe sunk a few ships as a warning, and compelled the pirates into surrender or retreat. They more or less have the mindset of us, today, in r/l. Red, however, has no such mental framework. These thoughts are alien to him, in fact, since he has always learned and experienced that one must utterly destroy the enemy. That's why he doesn't blink an eye, when he says 'annihilate' and then completely wipes out the pirates. 10 STARS~! I GIVE YOU 10 FREAKIN STARS! That was well analyzed! I myself wanted to post something in regards to a certain comment posted that insulted the protagonist's judgement with the way he handled the pirates, but since you've done such a splendid job I won't need to post anything(on that subject)! As for me... killing is fine as long as the reasons for killing is justified by my standards. Killing to survive(depends on the situation), killing in self defense, killing a murderers or rapists, and killing someone that could potentially harm me or those precious to me if left alone. The pirates Ledo killed could be categorized as Killers and or Rapists not to mention it was done in self defense(of Allies) which could also be seen as Killing to survive(Bargaining chip for Food from Gargantia) you know what this could also be categorized as killing potential enemies. Ok Ledo met all my killing standards... GOOD JOB LEDO! *Applauds* Completely agree. And though Red and those of Gargantia are both humans, Red is really an alien to Earth. He is not from Earth, had never grown up there, and lives in a totally different world with different rules and different dangers. You can't condemn the Alliance for doing what it does to survive. However, even if Red lived today and was a soldier now in our world, he would STILL do exactly the same. |
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Takuan_Soho said: This is a very good insight about the society Ledo grew up in. I think we need to hold back our judgement about whether the aliens are evil or the Alliance is evil. All we know is that the Alliance maintains a huge army with soldiers bred to fight so that the actual society (Avalon and perhaps some other space colonies as well) can live life without fighting, and these space colonies apparently never set foot on any inhabitable planet. What happens when the Alliance learns the existence and habitability of Earth will have a lot to do with how the space human society is organized and how they see the war against the aliens. Ledo thinks that Earth can be used as a base or outpost, but he is thinking purely from an Alliance soldier's point of view. What the human from Avalon itself think could be quite different.Symbv: possibility about his society - kind of a reverse "Starship troopers" mentality. Except in this case the "bugs" aren't necessarily evil. Here you have the same concept of only veterans being able to become citizens, with society being put on war footing in order to maintain unity. Notice that there isn't another inhabitable planet in the alliance, so what would happen if these space humans suddenly find that they don't have to fight for survival anymore, that they can live on Earth instead of on some space station called Avalon (if that even exists - there is a distinct possibility that those who are senior enough to be sent to Avalon are sent to the front lines in order to hide the fact that it doesn't exist). And now here is an open world for all to live on. Even if the Alliance wasn't evil, how would they handle the end of everything they have worked to accomplish for 1,000's of years. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Hmm, so it's pretty much Macross meets Waterworld? So far, I like it...although the sub work is less than stellar. I had to at least a few quick pauses to go "wait, what?" at some of the translations. |
Omnicast said: symbv said: OH YA! I almost forgot what I wanted to say... PRIMITIVES QUICKLY THROW YOUR VIRGINS AT LEDO!!! Before he burns your house down WITH LEMO- CHAMBER! Oh Yeah baby .. bring all your virgins to Ledo you primitive ! But still gonna be awkward when Chamber has to explain to him what to "actually" do with the girls XD You gotta admit that the temptation of wanting to be made god on earth if you had an indestructible mecha ... yes I am an horrible person ^_^ |
alduren said: That part of dialogue I would have translate as Maybe I should have used dots instead of , in my translation. Like "You are human comrades. Participate in the alliance." But that's really what chamber said, so that's the only thing they could be tense about. Perhaps due to how they form fleets, it sounds like Red demands them to participate in HIS alliance group/fleet. "You are compatriot human race. Join the Alliance." The speech by Chamber is brief and abrupt. This gives a feeling that it is demanding it from the Gargantia people. I believe this is why those people raised their alert. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Another great episode! Just shows at the end how they can be in awe of Red & Chamber but also fear the power difference they have, that could easily wipe them all out. |
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| good stuff makes me wonder about the pirate killing scene if they ever make a manga ver. will it be bloody, gory, and gruesome like god damn hell? Omnicast said: "Chamber: STOP HAVING S*X IN MY HEAD!!!" LOL!!! lol and somewhere out there someone is making a doujin of Bellows getting raped my those pirates |
| Oh man, shit's gonna go down in the next episode. Even though Red killed their enemies I can just imagine how people are going to react to his cold-blooded killer attitude. |
AnimageNeby said: Well, Slice of life is actually my favorite genre and I always have Japan to thank for introducing to me this genre, which has brought me so much fun and joy over the years. To me SoL is the distillation of everything good and funny about having a group of friends in everyday life. Harem is a male fantasy thing -- the more anti-intellectual the better (which is why ToLoveRu serves me best). That said, in both cases at the end the art in the character design and the chemistry of the character interactions are very important. The story, much less so, because at the end it is all fantasizing, which has to be done within the convention of the genre. I am always impressed by the multitude of the variations those creators come up within the straitjacket of the genre convention. People who don't like it would call it "generic" but at the end to follow the genre convention (thus "generic") is only to be expected. Fans of the genre always look beyond the convention to differentiate different works, which is why even similarly "generic" works do not sell equally well. And yes, I am a big fan of Yuri too. And hentai/ecchi too. I don't need other elements to distract me as long as the fanservice elements are good, but then my standard is still not so low that I would accept no story at all - I clearly derive more fun watching fanservice delivered in the context of some interesting situation than just watching a bunch of scenes delivered in snapshots like in some art album. One key belief I hold is that it is much better to appreciate a show by its own standard, and not trying to seek things that the show not meant to deliver, like some "realistic" story in a harem show for example. So I can go for deep analysis in a show like Gargantia, Psycho-Pass, or Shinsekai Yori but I would definitely avoid taking such approach if I talk about ToLoveRu or YuruYuri. As for shoujo, I do enjoy it (though reverse harem is a bit tricky to me) and often I find myself enjoy it more than the shounen battle stuff. Anyway, here you go. That's how I look at things. In fact, I'm not to keen on slice-of-life (I find most boring, but in all honesty it could also be because I don't have the patience to 'get into' those slow-poke stories.) Normal harem isn't my thing; I either appreciate an anime intellectually with some necessary emotional/relational responses, or with my 'other head', but then I prefer hentai (ranging from yuri - which you appreciated too, I believe?) to...well, every hentai genre there is out there, including the more extreme. But the usual harem-genre doesn't do either: the story is often weak, the characters rather shallow, etc., but on the other hand, the ecchi part is often too light to actually do anything other than annoy me. Idem with fanservice; if it ain't compensated by other elements, I find it mildly distracting and annoying, and to please the more base desires, it doesn't go far enough. AnimageNeby said: Yeah, I guess you must have spent quite a bit of time and effort writing that? It is very well written and I do not think there is much I want to add, hence the lack of input ;-) Anyway, I imagine you''ve read what I wrote and has been quoted a few times (http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=577931&show=220#msg21331533) but since you didn't give input on that, I'll assume you basically agree. Mostly we end up in long discussions, so I noticed the lack thereof, now. ;-) AnimageNeby said: That's what I think too. I sense that they may have interpreted what Chambers said about joining the Alliance as a demand for them to drop the weapons and lose their independence.I guess they're pretty independend-minded, and not all alliances or fleet-joining occurs on amiable terms. That would, indeed, explain their sudden rise of alert. |
symbvApr 10, 2013 11:23 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Will they be scared or amazed!?!? Ahh! I want the next episode nowww!! |
SummerYoung said: Oh man, shit's gonna go down in the next episode. Even though Red killed their enemies I can just imagine how people are going to react to his cold-blooded killer attitude. Speaking of which, the leadership of Gargantia are a bit cold-blooded as well. They have spoken a few times on just taking the mech and throwing Red and "the other guy in the suit" overboard. That's the only meaning I garnered from the explanation of "sinking" him. Also, Gargantia was going to kill the pirates anyway since the defense forces were shooting automatic guns at them. I think they were just in awe of the raw, superior power of Chamber. It's like showing a machine gun to people of the medieval era. You're in shock and amazement at the destructive potential. You want that kind of power for yourself, yet fear being on the wrong side of it. |
AnimageNeby said: alduren said: symbv said: alduren said: That part of dialogue I would have translate as Maybe I should have used dots instead of , in my translation. Like "You are human comrades. Participate in the alliance." But that's really what chamber said, so that's the only thing they could be tense about. Perhaps due to how they form fleets, it sounds like Red demands them to participate in HIS alliance group/fleet. "You are compatriot human race. Join the Alliance." The speech by Chamber is brief and abrupt. This gives a feeling that it is demanding it from the Gargantia people. I believe this is why those people raised their alert. Okey, I watched my translation again. This is what I think is best. "You guys/people are brethren同胞 of humanity (or /human brethren). Participate in The alliance("Our", The alliance, but our is not said out loud and is implied in the context)." I feel your translation is a bit off, and start to become a new conversation than what is said just to explain the reaction a bit. In my opinion, the reason they reacted may be explained later, if there are other fleets that are part of alliance groups they are not willing to join. If you remember, Bellows were offered to join the pirate group since their leader had a high opinion of her. Since fleets consists of multiple smaller ships bound together by locks, maybe it is common for them to switch alliances, and Chamber sounded like he wanted them to join his fleet. BTW, Alduren, I noticed almost all anime sites have taken over your translation by now. You must be pretty proud; your work is all over the Net, now. :-) And don't mind the ones on the forum who are just dishing it; you can't please everyone. Lol yeah. it's on 95% of all streaming sites hahaha It's actually so good, you would barely notice, that it was made by an amateur (compared to big sub groups and their usual releases). This is almost as good, if not equal to them. (Same stuff what you see in all streaming sites). Pretty nice job lol |
stefeman said: AnimageNeby said: alduren said: symbv said: alduren said: That part of dialogue I would have translate as Maybe I should have used dots instead of , in my translation. Like "You are human comrades. Participate in the alliance." But that's really what chamber said, so that's the only thing they could be tense about. Perhaps due to how they form fleets, it sounds like Red demands them to participate in HIS alliance group/fleet. "You are compatriot human race. Join the Alliance." The speech by Chamber is brief and abrupt. This gives a feeling that it is demanding it from the Gargantia people. I believe this is why those people raised their alert. Okey, I watched my translation again. This is what I think is best. "You guys/people are brethren同胞 of humanity (or /human brethren). Participate in The alliance("Our", The alliance, but our is not said out loud and is implied in the context)." I feel your translation is a bit off, and start to become a new conversation than what is said just to explain the reaction a bit. In my opinion, the reason they reacted may be explained later, if there are other fleets that are part of alliance groups they are not willing to join. If you remember, Bellows were offered to join the pirate group since their leader had a high opinion of her. Since fleets consists of multiple smaller ships bound together by locks, maybe it is common for them to switch alliances, and Chamber sounded like he wanted them to join his fleet. BTW, Alduren, I noticed almost all anime sites have taken over your translation by now. You must be pretty proud; your work is all over the Net, now. :-) And don't mind the ones on the forum who are just dishing it; you can't please everyone. Lol yeah. it's on 95% of all streaming sites hahaha It's actually so good, you would barely notice, that it was made by an amateur (compared to big sub groups and their usual releases). This is almost as good, if not equal to them. (Same stuff what you see in all streaming sites). Pretty nice job lol Yes congratulations to Alduren, I watched the episode with his subs and it was great, despite those dishing it out here I didn't feel much difference from Commie and the small issue didn't prevent me from enjoying the show. Thanks :) |
| Why do I have the feeling that instead of a "thanks" Red will be blamed for murdering everyone?*sighs* Poor Guy he is a killing machine, he does not understand. Amy should have been more specific like "help us but dont annihilate them okay". Excellent episode. |
OrulyonApr 10, 2013 3:28 PM
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Orulyon said: Amy should have been more specific like "help us but dont annihilate them okay". Yeah ... Amy could have been more specific, she just said "save Bellows". But I think the problem is not that Ledo killed the Pirates, but that He did it with a power that is beyond anything Gargantia can muster in a thousand years and that He can destroy everything they know in 5 seconds. The pirates had it coming and nobody is going to miss them. |
meneliksempaiApr 10, 2013 3:39 PM
meneliksempai said: Orulyon said: Amy should have been more specific like "help us but dont annihilate them okay". Yeah ... Amy could have been more specific, she just said "save Bellows". But I think the problem is not that Ledo killed the Pirates, but that He did it with a power that is beyond anything Gargantia can muster in a thousand years. I agree, i think that the problem is not that he killed them, but rather that he killed them so easily and quickly, they will see him as a dangerous threat as well as a potential ally. After all, he could literally wipe them out in an instant if he wished. |
Omnicast said: Irenesharda said: Speaking of which, the leadership of Gargantia are a bit cold-blooded as well. They have spoken a few times on just taking the mech and throwing Red and "the other guy in the suit" overboard. That's the only meaning I garnered from the explanation of "sinking" him. Also, Gargantia was going to kill the pirates anyway since the defense forces were shooting automatic guns at them. I think they were just in awe of the raw, superior power of Chamber. It's like showing a machine gun to people of the medieval era. You're in shock and amazement at the destructive potential. You want that kind of power for yourself, yet fear being on the wrong side of it. Wait what?! Huh? Geh? I think the only person that wants to kill Ledo and smash up Chamber was the retarded blonde... a Stereotype of Americans? By the way that idiot can't even scratch Chamber so I'm calling him retarded as he keeps going on about killing Ledo and breaking up Chamber like it's nothing... the dumbass spent a day trying everything to take it apart and that endeavor was fruitless. THUS HE IS A MORON OF THE HIGHEST CALIBER! Seriously greatest idiot in this entire show. I guess he's comedy relief? Pretty much every anime has one or a host of idiots in it. Ridget wanted to Study Chamber, but she didn't say she wanted to kill Ledo. Of course I could be wrong about her, but the rest of the leaders including Fearokku didn't want to start anything yet. They feared that they might be outmatched(which they are by a margin of 10 thousand years or maybe even more). I'm just mainly going with the ease at which the blond was talking of killing Red, but I have no doubt that Ridget and the old-guy captain will feel the same if they think Red is a threat to Gargantia. However, if they are smart, they will see what he can do, and instead of treating him like a pariah, offer an alliance with him. No one wants to waste that kind of firepower, of make him so annoyed and angry that he will threaten them or go to another fleet. If they are smart they will gain Red's loyalty and thus his protection. |
Zageroth said: meneliksempai said: Orulyon said: Amy should have been more specific like "help us but dont annihilate them okay". Yeah ... Amy could have been more specific, she just said "save Bellows". But I think the problem is not that Ledo killed the Pirates, but that He did it with a power that is beyond anything Gargantia can muster in a thousand years. I agree, i think that the problem is not that he killed them, but rather that he killed them so easily and quickly, they will see him as a dangerous threat as well as a potential ally. After all, he could literally wipe them out in an instant if he wished. I too think think that they are smart enough not to drive off Red, especially since he can easily leave and go to another fleet, which would then make him their enemy, and they don't want him as an enemy. Also, the language barrier is a problem. When Red asked what pirates are, and Amy explained, he just summed that up as: enemy. So when he goes into battle, he does to enemies what he would usually do to enemies, I mean Chamber is not called an "Annihilation Weapon" for nothing! Yet, we can see that Red is not a cold-blooded individual. He can understand diplomacy and does not always use violence as his first answer. In the first episode, he could have easily killed all those people chasing him in the barge, but he knew they were not really threats and so simply avoided them. He took Amy hostage so they wouldn't kill him on site, in an act of self-preservation. But one shot with his “ray-gun” through the heart or the head could have killed instantly, instead he aims for the ground. Red has what appears to be a soldier mode that he slips into when he fights.This was apparent when in the beginning of episode 1 he’s talking to Chamber about his life and getting leave and so forth, and how he changes when he goes into battle. And you can clearly see the shift as Amy tells him what’s happened and then he goes into Chamber. His eyes go from expressive to dead and he is now in battle mode, where he needs to eradicate the enemy and protect the civilians, that is all. I love his differentiating system though! He has all enemy ships and individual combatants in red, and all civilian ships and people in blue. I'm really loving Chamber and what he can do! |
| well they wanted to know what his was and to prove it.....that pretty much does it. i wonder how they will react to his overwhelming power? |
alduren said: I don't know why you feel my translation is a bit off. If anything, I would say "Join" is better than "Participate" because the tone is definitely sounding more like a demand or request. Even though 加入 can mean "participate" too I think "join" is better in the context, and it will also explain the reactions of those people of Gargantia better. I feel your translation is a bit off, and start to become a new conversation than what is said just to explain the reaction a bit. alduren said: No objection to that, as this is what I think too. Everything points towards a fleet that consists of multiple ship owners that looks out for their own people and ship. It's very possible they could switch fleets for profit, right? alduren said: That is also what I think too, but how does that makes my translation to be "a bit off"??If you remember, Bellows were offered to join the pirate group since their leader had a high opinion of her. Chamber sounded like he wanted them to participate in his fleet's alliance, that's what I think got Ridget mad. An intruder suddenly appears and tells you, participate in the alliance. Of course you think about fleet alliances if you never seen anything else but ships your entire life. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Paper thin plot, but could be neat. Will watch for now |
Artorias said: How paper thin is it? And what is a plot that is not paper-thin if we do not look at some multiple-cour series?Paper thin plot, but could be neat. Will watch for now |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Artorias said: How paper thin is it? And what is a plot that is not paper-thin if we do not look at some multiple-cour series?Paper thin plot, but could be neat. Will watch for now Because every sci-fi series has its plot fully presented and explored after two episodes.. |
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| ^ And so if it does not, then the plot is "paper thin"? Actually are we sure that "every sci-fi series" has its plot fully presented and explored after two episodes with no more new revelations or twists in the middle of the series? |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: Artorias said: How paper thin is it? And what is a plot that is not paper-thin if we do not look at some multiple-cour series?Paper thin plot, but could be neat. Will watch for now Dude got sucked through a wormhole and was not on course with his ship. 99% guarantee that time travel will come into the story at some point, and he will be conflicted whether to go back or not once he can. Calling it now, easy to see through. Never said it wouldn't be enjoyable, but the edges you people jump to once someone says something disagreeable is saddening. |
Artorias said: So you are saying because a wormhole is used, time travel will come? And that makes it a paper-thin plot? Dude got sucked through a wormhole and was not on course with his ship. 99% guarantee that time travel will come into the story at some point, and he will be conflicted whether to go back or not once he can. Artorias said: More saddening is your failure to explain why the two episodes give "paper-thin plot".Calling it now, easy to see through. Never said it wouldn't be enjoyable, but the edges you people jump to once someone says something disagreeable is saddening. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| And to think I was going to pass on this one! I am so glad that I checked this out. I wouldn't call it a paper-thin plot. There are several directions they can go with this. Will the Alliance show up? With the Hideauze? Will they find land? Will Ledo have a harem? How bad will his PTSD be? Will Chamber run out of juice? Will other factions gang up on Ledo's hosts because the pirates got vaporized? |
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Rukia13 said: And to think I was going to pass on this one! I am so glad that I checked this out. I wouldn't call it a paper-thin plot. There are several directions they can go with this. Will the Alliance show up? With the Hideauze? Will they find land? Will Ledo have a harem? How bad will his PTSD be? Will Chamber run out of juice? Will other factions gang up on Ledo's hosts because the pirates got vaporized? This is not a harem anime.. sorry about that :P try highschool DXD |
| Damn, those lasers just turned the pirates into dust o_0!! I'd say that the earthlings are now official 10 out of 10 on the frightened scale. |
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