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Ovindel said: IAlready said: koolvid said: where did you see the professor have his family back? Remember the house that Kimimaro visited before he goes back to the park. Then the kids started coming out and when the kid look outside, Kimimaro already left. I mean who is the only person he's gonna visit except Hanabi, certainly that's the professors house. Wait, if you look carefully you can see the face of the father (I assume) of the children, so why would it be the professors house? And that house is Hanabi's, right? What do those have to do with eachother? They try to keep it as a subtle but why did Kimimaro left already when he heard the kids voices and see them going out? I mean he haven't heard of Hanabi right? and the possibility of the family being Hanabi and her un-named boyfriend getting married is also out of sight. I don't really recall some episodes but I think Hanabi also don't have a sibling. edit: I mean the only character that the loss of kids symbolize was the Professor and Hanabi is of different loss which is her future as a caregiver. Masakaki also said, "Upon seeing the caregiver that looks like the girl your really fond of....makes you think she's enjoying her own future somewhere"(not literrally but I think masakaki tried to say it that way)...and he said it because it's Yoga's thoughts..then if Yoga is wondering about Hanabi's future then he didn't saw her. That's why I think he saw the professor instead. |
LiaisonJun 24, 2011 3:39 PM
| I believe this was supposed to be a 26 episode series (with that "26th episode Noitamina anime" fail English line during the ED)... then got cut short and pacing got fucked up, this could've been the best series of the season IMO if they had executed it better, this left more unanswered questions than anything. Though unsatisfying, it was an average ending, not the worst but could've been much better with the proper build-up. Why couldn't this be 26 ep long Q.Q |
| They probably would have fixed some of your problems if it was longer. |
| nice ending, still a bit confused about every thing though :S a bit sad my Mashyu saying good bye like that, but if there still is a financial district then, she hasn't actually went then right? |
Ovindel said: It is her simply because of that beauty point she has in the spoilerYumekichi11 said: I don't understand you completely.koolvid said: He does not but if you take into consideration that Hanabi is back to normal then the family is indeed back of that teacher. That's what made Hanabi depressed and most likely suicidal. Now that the teacher's family is back, she moved on that do exactly like what that teacher was doing.First, Masakaki said that the girl that was caretaker of those children lookie like Hanabi but wasn't her. Am I right? Ovindel said: I haven't ever understood why Hanabi got depressed, it looks like you know, but I don't completely understand what you've written. She got first depressed because a teacher of hers from either her family or that she appreciated enough to be a caretaker of kids was killed in a accident that may have resulted from FD battles. Ovindel said: She did because of her feelings at the time of that teacher's death like having a collection of the writings she did in kindergarten and then throwing them out because that teacher is dead. There is a lot of paying attention and figurative speech to find out some stuff but takes a lot of time so not many have the patience. I for one analyzed the battle in the first page and that took some time to point out the details.And do you mean that IF it is Hanabi as caretaker and she wanted to do what the teacher was doing, since when did she wanted to do that? Not everyone has the time but people like that may have some, tend to try and explain stuff. |
| Do you guys really need every little detail about what happened explained to you? A lot of shows, including this one, leave endings up for interpretation. It's ridiculous, you get mad and says it's a bad show, or a bad ending because it doesn't hold your hand the entire way, and makes you think of various possibilities. If you need everything explained to you, you just have no imagination. |
mokuzu-Jun 24, 2011 4:59 PM
Endar said: Yes we do know but it was spoon fed like a direct conversation with Kimimaro that they could have put to explain to us her depression or like the time he came to her place.Endar said: Mostly all this and that she has strong values of saving money and spending it. Her boyfriend may be nameless but we do know he is rich.All we know about her is If I missed something, please let me know. Endar said: No it was not explored sadly and I wished her boyfriend may have had a FD influence or that she herself would join FD to make some WTF situation at Kimimaro but sadly none got there. Hanabi was essentially a support character for Kimimaro that had nothing to do with FD and was a same school buddy for Kimimaro.Now we got the first four of those in the first episode. So yeah, her character was never really explored. |
| I don't know what everyone's problem is with the ending. Kimimaro returns to all the places that were important to him before moving on. A thematically appropriate ending with closure, if nothing else. Also, I'm not sure why anyone thinks that Kimimaro is invisible/dead/etc. The reason the kid didn't see Kimimaro when he visited Hanabi's house was because he had already left. It's the typical scene where the main character goes back to watch from afar someone he once knew, someone looks in the MC's direction, but he's gone. He could have asked them where she went, but he's not there to try to regain that past. He's there to get closure so that he can let go. And that's what most of Kimimaro's character development was: learning to let go of the past and look to the future. Granted, not a very profound or original development, but at least he got one. Most of the other characters were entirely static, which is why they didn't need a part in the ending. They'll just go beck to doing whatever they were doing before the events of the show. Using the depreciation of the black Yen bills to break the [C]ontrol of the financial district on Japan did seem pretty questionable to me too, but I think that it was a lot better than the non-plot that we had had for the past 9 episodes. Certainly, I wouldn't say that it quite reached the level of a deus ex machina. It was planned out, and did have it's own logic to it. |
| Another anime that suffered due to its length. I love short anime, but C bit more than it could chew. Granted, it's nigh impossible to present and flesh out all those ideas and characters, all in 11 episodes. I'm disappointed, but I wouldn't call it bad. I dug the final duel, but the ending as a whole was one giant WTF. |
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DrHouse said: Oh no no! Not closure. Here are my points:I don't know what everyone's problem is with the ending. Kimimaro returns to all the places that were important to him before moving on. A thematically appropriate ending with closure, if nothing else.
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| disapointed realy i had higher hopes yet it got cut into a half season anime quite a let down |
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| WTF!! Seriously disappointed with the ending. A lot of unanswered questions. Like who the hell was Kimimaro's dad? Was Masyu actually Kimimaro's future? Wasn't she supposed to be like Kimimaro's daughter or something? This series would have been a lot better if it was 24-26 episodes. I really do hope they make an explanatory OVA or something. Overall I liked the series, but the ending made me downgrade the score to an 8. |
| "El Psy Congroo" |
| I dont get it. So i have been reading some comments, and so Kimimaro is a ghost like form now?... toatally did not get it. |
| Disappointed. Confused. Last few episodes and this ending made me w.t.f. |
| This in regards to people wondering about Mikuni's disappearance: Mikuni is stuck in between reality and the present that was not changed. In other words he is stuck in between dimensions. He clearly said that he wanted to live in the now unchanged. The only way to do that is to live in a alternate space where things are as they were. Problem is none of it is reality. Mikuni may also have dissipated because if you cannot live in the present now then you cannot live at all for there is not present that was. It is only the now that Mikuni hates. Mikuni wanted to only live in the present that is not changed with his sister Takako. That's the best I can explain there is no other explanation less he means the now as in trying to live in the changes present. Kuro-Tenshi said: No he is not a ghost and he clearly lives in reality unlike Mikuni.I dont get it. So i have been reading some comments, and so Kimimaro is a ghost like form now?... toatally did not get it. |
| wait what...it's over? |
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| i felt this series needing more explanation on what was going on in the whole district and the whole Dad factor of kimimaro. Anyway the amount that Kimimaro was fighting for at the end must of been huge to change everyones future like that. Although I do feel like he got the short end of the stick with not being able to be with the people he knew. Overall to me this series was alright nothing that will raved about "in the future" I think. |
| Hey Can Some Please Explain The Ending Because Its Confusing Me:/ |
| Here's a summary: Yoga: "Oh hey Masakaki reverse money. Doesn't make sense, but screw the rules I have money." Masakaki: "Ok lol" God: "Sup Yoga, we just made you do this bullshit to improve humanity or some shit" Yoga: "Oh cool lol" Masakaki: "K so now Japan is saved and everyone has their futures brah" Yoga: "Wait wtf nobody knows me" Masakaki: "trololol, bro you bet on the future, so now you have no past and present. You still have your future so you can come back any time. The FD is still open bro." Yoga: "Whatev dawg. I guess this means everyone has infinite future and money don't mean shit or somethin'" Yoga: "Well if I learned shit during this I learned I should smile for the camera" |
Yumekichi11 said: This in regards to people wondering about Mikuni's disappearance: Mikuni is stuck in between reality and the present that was not changed. In other words he is stuck in between dimensions. He clearly said that he wanted to live in the now unchanged. The only way to do that is to live in a alternate space where things are as they were. Problem is none of it is reality. Mikuni may also have dissipated because if you cannot live in the present now then you cannot live at all for there is not present that was. It is only the now that Mikuni hates. Mikuni wanted to only live in the present that is not changed with his sister Takako. That's the best I can explain there is no other explanation less he means the now as in trying to live in the changes present. Kuro-Tenshi said: No he is not a ghost and he clearly lives in reality unlike Mikuni.I dont get it. So i have been reading some comments, and so Kimimaro is a ghost like form now?... toatally did not get it. Are you part of the production team or something because I have no idea how you got all of that. Just because he said he wants to live in the now all of a sudden he in some parallel universe? Other than what he said, which doesn't really explain much to begin with, there is nothing else that leads you to believe he is stuck in some other dimension. What I took from that is Mikuni is going to live in the moment that is, meaning experiencing the moment he is in now (living in the present) and not worrying about the future or the past. Kind of like how people say live in the moment/the now. His whole thing was to preserve the present so what he said just goes along with his philosophy, doesn't show that he is trapped in another time or space from anyone else. |
Merciless said: No you are right but this is your view in other words IMO and I gave out mines because the ending of Mikuni is precisely open interpretation. We cannot confirm your point either because we never Mikuni apply this philosophy and personally I don't think he wants to live in the reality that Kimimaro brought.Yumekichi11 said: This in regards to people wondering about Mikuni's disappearance: Mikuni is stuck in between reality and the present that was not changed. In other words he is stuck in between dimensions. He clearly said that he wanted to live in the now unchanged. The only way to do that is to live in a alternate space where things are as they were. Problem is none of it is reality. Mikuni may also have dissipated because if you cannot live in the present now then you cannot live at all for there is not present that was. It is only the now that Mikuni hates. Mikuni wanted to only live in the present that is not changed with his sister Takako. That's the best I can explain there is no other explanation less he means the now as in trying to live in the changes present. Kuro-Tenshi said: No he is not a ghost and he clearly lives in reality unlike Mikuni.I dont get it. So i have been reading some comments, and so Kimimaro is a ghost like form now?... toatally did not get it. Are you part of the production team or something because I have no idea how you got all of that. Just because he said he wants to live in the now all of a sudden he in some parallel universe? Other than what he said, which doesn't really explain much to begin with, there is nothing else that leads you to believe he is stuck in some other dimension. What I took from that is Mikuni is going to live in the moment that is, meaning experiencing the moment he is in now (living in the present) and not worrying about the future or the past. Kind of like how people say live in the moment/the now. His whole thing was to preserve the present so what he said just goes along with his philosophy, doesn't show that he is trapped in another time or space from anyone else. |
| Ending was interesting. I don't think kimimaro is a ghost or some entity not apart of the world because of the way masakaki was talking to him. But this definitely leaves a lot of loose ends for a season 2. |
Endar said: Considering that the name plate outside the gate says "Nagata", I... really have no idea who's house it is. It might be that Hanabi's name is in fact Nagata, and not Ikuta (which it is, according to MAL's character list). Or it's a complete stranger's house. That'd be a twist.Ovindel said: I thought the same thing. "Wait, wasn't that Hanabi's house?". I don't know what the deal is. It could be lazy animation.IAlready said: Wait, if you look carefully you can see the face of the father (I assume) of the children, so why would it be the professors house? And that house is Hanabi's, right? What do those have to do with eachother?koolvid said: Remember the house that Kimimaro visited before he goes back to the park. Then the kids started coming out and when the kid look outside, Kimimaro already left. I mean who is the only person he's gonna visit except Hanabi, certainly that's the professors house.where did you see the professor have his family back? At least it's nigh impossible to misread it as Ebara at least, so it shouldn't be the professor's house. And I guess it's possible that someone's already come to that conclusion on the following two pages, but I didn't see any post like that, so whatever. |
| Protip: I don't really check the forums anymore, so if you want something, take it on my profile. Is it time for my long-awaited return to the forums? щ(ﾟДﾟщ) Nope™, probably not. |
| It's the professor's house. One of the subs had a mistake. |
Oosran said: Considering that the name plate outside the gate says "Nagata", I... really have no idea who's house it is. It might be that Hanabi's name is in fact Nagata, and not Ikuta (which it is, according to MAL's character list). Or it's a complete stranger's house. That'd be a twist. At least it's nigh impossible to misread it as Ebara at least, so it shouldn't be the professor's house. And I guess it's possible that someone's already come to that conclusion on the following two pages, but I didn't see any post like that, so whatever. It's Hanabi's house. Or should I say the-Hanabi-from-the-reality-Kimimaro-once-knew. That Deity (oh geez...) said the world is totally different now. And it indeed is. So, 2 possibilities as I see it: - the house belongs to some other random family now, not Hanabi's. (And it's not Ebara's, because it's really inpossible to mistake 長田 (Nagata) for 江原(Ebara)). - it's Hanabi's family house, it's just that Hanabi's so changed due to Kimimaro's actions that even her last name changed (from 生田 to 長田). It also might be that the caregiver is the new very changed Hanabi, but also it might be that it was not her and the Hanabi of this reality exists somewhere, in different city or something. Either way, it seems her and Kimimaro never met in this reality. |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
Yumekichi11 said: Ovindel said: It is her simply because of that beauty point she has in the spoilerI don't understand you completely. First, Masakaki said that the girl that was caretaker of those children lookie like Hanabi but wasn't her. Am I right? But that means what Masakaki said to Kimimaro could be not true? |
Ovindel said: Yeah because he mentions a little something called "I was thinking what you may be thinking" idea. Masakaki is a manipulator. I would not trust anything he says other than FD stuff. Yumekichi11 said: Ovindel said: It is her simply because of that beauty point she has in the spoilerI don't understand you completely. First, Masakaki said that the girl that was caretaker of those children lookie like Hanabi but wasn't her. Am I right? But that means what Masakaki said to Kimimaro could be not true? CG said: I would think that is more the possibility because of the change that occurred.Oosran said: Considering that the name plate outside the gate says "Nagata", I... really have no idea who's house it is. It might be that Hanabi's name is in fact Nagata, and not Ikuta (which it is, according to MAL's character list). Or it's a complete stranger's house. That'd be a twist. At least it's nigh impossible to misread it as Ebara at least, so it shouldn't be the professor's house. And I guess it's possible that someone's already come to that conclusion on the following two pages, but I didn't see any post like that, so whatever. It's Hanabi's house. Or should I say the-Hanabi-from-the-reality-Kimimaro-once-knew. That Deity (oh geez...) said the world is totally different now. And it indeed is. So, 2 possibilities as I see it: - the house belongs to some other random family now, not Hanabi's. (And it's not Ebara's, because it's really inpossible to mistake 長田 (Nagata) for 江原(Ebara)). CG said: I could also think she may have gotten married but I am not sure from the looks of that family living there.- it's Hanabi's family house, it's just that Hanabi's so changed due to Kimimaro's actions that even her last name changed (from 生田 to 長田). CG said: I doubt she is that much changed but clearly there may have been a time that passed that made Hanabi progress with her studies and become what Kimimaro saw her as. It also might be that the caregiver is the new very changed Hanabi, CG said: I don't think so since most likely the Hanabi Kimimaro knows would work in the city where the teacher would be closest as to ask him about advice but in general this one is the less likely I would go for as a theory.but also it might be that it was not her and the Hanabi of this reality exists somewhere, in different city or something. CG said: That may also be but it would have been nice that Kimimaro would have finished saying her name to see her reaction.Either way, it seems her and Kimimaro never met in this reality. |
| I now love Msyu 40 times more than usual. :3 |
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| The fight was nice to watch, but the show overall was just... :| |
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| Awesome ending to a meh series... 7/10. |
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| Great ending. I still feel bad for Kimimaro because he had to sacrifice everything for the future, But he still was happy. Some things were not that clear. But [C] is an anime that makes you think twice before you get anything. And I think that english song was out of place. Anyway: HawthorneKitty said: I thought it was an amazing end, definitely the best anime of the Spring season. All the characters were intriguing and plot and concept it revolved around was executed in a fantastic way. Entertaining all the way to the end, I will give it a 10. 10/10 |
| A sentence to describe C: Started off great, or rather perfect, but wrapped up quite badly :/ |
| オタクなんじゃねぃよ I'm not an otaku. |
| Ending was utter bollocks "m8". |
| Those people who is mindfucked about ending, just drop it. I mean, you won't know the truth since the anime didn't tell us anything about it -_-;; All these theories and ideas of what happened after is just a guess and its up to you guys whether to believe it or not. Or more importantly, we can wish for 2nd season to come out and answer all the the questions that people are asking right now... Thus, don't rate this series bad just because you were mindfucked. I mean, I'm mindfucked as well and I've read several other forums in regarding to get some answers though everything were guesses. |
Yumekichi11 said: Endar said: Yes we do know but it was spoon fed like a direct conversation with Kimimaro that they could have put to explain to us her depression or like the time he came to her place.Endar said: Mostly all this and that she has strong values of saving money and spending it. Her boyfriend may be nameless but we do know he is rich.All we know about her is If I missed something, please let me know. Endar said: No it was not explored sadly and I wished her boyfriend may have had a FD influence or that she herself would join FD to make some WTF situation at Kimimaro but sadly none got there. Hanabi was essentially a support character for Kimimaro that had nothing to do with FD and was a same school buddy for Kimimaro.Now we got the first four of those in the first episode. So yeah, her character was never really explored. Oh yeah, forgot about the implication about her boyfriend being loaded. Thanks. Probably. I would have liked to see her in a more direct role in the FD or her boyfriend be an entre. It is actually possible that he was, but we never saw him. I mean, we don't know if the FD has a member list that entre's can see. They might have that because you could pick an opponent for deals, but we do not know. I guess I just wanted more out of her in this series. Yumekichi11 said: That may also be but it would have been nice that Kimimaro would have finished saying her name to see her reaction. Yeah that would have helped. Because he just said "hana" which is flower. That is kind of a word you would expect to hear in a park. And Masakaki is definitely not trustworthy. He doesn't even true his counterparts from other FDs. |
EndarJun 25, 2011 3:36 PM
jpem said: Series was meh from the start, ending no exception. exactly |
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| Ending... felt kind of... lacking? Hanabi was just there, suddenly the American female agent becomes a good guy, the guy who was a good guy became a bad guy, Msyu just disappeared with no resolution, and Masakaki just appears outta his ass once again? What the fuck |
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| If your going to complain that Yu-Gi-Oh! Mangas are on the top NY times manga best sellers, you must not realize how popular Card games are(as well as the fact that you get a free card). |
| rushed + convoluted. those are some words that describe this series. d4n13lr0x said: Ending... felt kind of... lacking? Hanabi was just there, suddenly the American female agent becomes a good guy, the guy who was a good guy became a bad guy, Msyu just disappeared with no resolution, and Masakaki just appears outta his ass once again? What the fuck i agree with most of that. it had potential & some excellent moments... but they just weren't executed. 6/10. |
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| Could have been better. Masakaki turned from intriguingly creepy to a character that felt forced, especially when the other Masakakis were revealed. The battles were odd from the start - what with the Engrish and those jargon. But it really started to get bad when Kimimaro suddenly completely followed everything the lollipop-sucking lady told him to do. Not something I'd recommend to anyone. |
| C is the worst show of the season. Not only that this show is boring but it is also unable to answer its own questions. What I got is "Actually, we are building a better future for you so please just sit there quietly and STFU or replay the game " |
 "A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie." |
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