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Dec 13, 2007 2:44 PM
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I always hate Hoshino ><"
and i continue to hate her :O
Dec 13, 2007 2:51 PM

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The OP for a lot of anime have spoilers in them if you close enough. They even show the mysterious long-haired arsonist in this OP.
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Dec 13, 2007 3:33 PM
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This episode was pretty good. The first half was pretty good with Hoshino saying all the stuff she did. I was like k hold up....the sweet and caring girl does something pretty evil and is a lesbo? I was surprised there. But the ending was the best part of this episode. The situation of Sana and Shuu was reversed and the music with it was pretty sweet. But yea character development hmm. It felt rushed but yea if they could put that all in one episode then why not put Nanaka's or Sana's? Probably cuz they save the best for last hehe ^_^
Dec 13, 2007 4:53 PM

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The first half was so-so... the twist with Hoshino was cool, but it felt slightly awkward with Sana just sitting there. The last bit with the train, Shuu, and Sana, however, was wonderful. The music is what really did, I think. ^-^
Dec 13, 2007 5:34 PM

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So.. once again Tamura Yukari (Shuri's seiyuu) voice made another girl gay, huh? :D

Anyway, glad to see the series from which I didn't expect absolutely anything (except classic boring harem) and I watched only to listen my fav voice actors turned out to be a little interesting.
Dec 13, 2007 9:07 PM

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@everyone that hated this series or ep
I think most of the people that have a negative opinion about this series are basing it on what they saw in School Days, which they should not. It seems like from the start of this series (and almost every other series that came out at the same time), when we find out Sana has a problem with blood on knives, everyone "gets that school days vibe" but this show is supposed to be entirely different. You should not come into a show expecting it's going to be like something you already saw. That messes up the whole series for you and implants a "standard" that you think every series will or should be base off of in your head.

As for the development, if you watch this series without basing it off anything you've already seen before then it makes sense and seems perfect. The whole series is supposed to be development between the main characters that knew each other when they where kids. So why would they spend 3 or 4 eps developing a non main character like Hoshino Asami? That would be a wast of time for all of us not to mention make us lose interest in the main story that we originally want to find out. In-staid they focused all their efforts on developing Nanaka, Shuri, Syusuke and building up for Sana's time bomb of a past. So overall this series has done exactly like it was planning to do from the start. So why would you expect otherwise and why would you want them to get side tracked by developing other characters? It just makes no sense to me why people think that way. Every time I see a post with "omg School Days vibes" It makes me want to just bash my head into a table over and over again.
Dec 13, 2007 10:39 PM

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Heh, I never liked Asami, but it was because she was such a dull character. Now I don't like her for a different reason. Never mind that the whole Shuri thing came out of nowhere.
Dec 14, 2007 12:50 AM

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Too bad the pacing of this show was bad, otherwise I would call this half decent. Two episodes to clean up Nanaka and Sana's 'pasts' isn't enough. I don't think Hinako was needed in the show to take up air time. We'll get something rushed again. But the whole yuri bit was surprising. I thought she was maybe jealous of Shuri for having Syuu's attention. Who would have thought it was more like the other way around.

And the twin's left... I'm only sad they aren't around to help Sana if he begins to act up because of his past (or they won't ever know what their friend has been through during his time away).
Dec 14, 2007 3:15 AM

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I love this episode!!!
Dec 14, 2007 4:32 AM

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No offense man...but if this is the 'single greatest episode of anime' that you have seen this season...your standards are way too low...

Shallow storyline, forced character development, no character development, cliched plotline that has been done before and done better by other serieses...

11 episodes into the game and we still know nothing about Sana's phobia of bloodied knives. Also know nothing of his wristwatch or as to why his mother frequently calls him. Another so called main character (Aoi) is shafted as a moe~ blob and Asami suddenly went bad girl...

This series had a lot of potential, but ruined itself due to bad storytelling. Just my opinions now:-)


Dude seriously... u r way too lol.U rate an anime like School days with 10 and u tell to that guy thats his standars are way to low??? u have to reconsider some things here -.-



An anime like School Days is either a hit or miss, either you like it or you don't. In terms of unexpected events, School Days definitely outclasses Myself;Yourself.

You have a supposed main character with no character development whatsoever become a villain, unexpected but forced. At least the main characters in School Days were properly developed and their actions were from the development of several episodes. This whole "best episode" of Myself;Yourself occurred in one episode with no development whatsoever.

You have a generic romance anime and a radical romance anime concept. Just because you prefer generic romance doesn't mean that School Days is bad...At least Makoto listened to his brain unlike most generic male leads like Sana, well the brain down there anyway xD

I'm not belittling Myself;Yourself, I somewhat agree that this is the best episode so far for the series. My only gripe is that everything felt forced and the bombshell they dropped had no development whatsoever. What makes things worse is that they used a supposed main character who had virtually no character development to act as the villain of the story. Asami's other uses were for making Nanaka jealous...she is getting shafted way worse than Nayuki of Kanon...

Instead of a steady progression in the storyline and character development, we get thrown into an episode where things occur with no basis whatsoever. Sure its entertaining and we certainly didn't expect it, but why did I have to watch 10 episodes if it took them only 1 to basically tell an entire story arc?

Now we have two episodes left and many things are left unexplained. They could have probably explained a lot of things over the course of 11 episodes, but the great writers of Myself;Yourself decided to just throw everything into one episode. Maybe they wanted the audience to go "WOW!!!" over the sudden turn of events...

Hey look it's happening right now...


I dont think they introduce Hoshino as the main villain of the series... I dont think ppl hated her after they saw her rather felt sorry for her...What regards no character development i agree theres not much BUT the same goes for school days.But since this isnt a School days post i wont talk about the 1000000 girls that makoto f^^ed which was very beliavable and characteristic developed(Hironic).From the 1 ep we understand that even though Sana is the Main character so goes for the rest.What i mean is that they actually have the twins + Sana + Nanaka.We get glimpses from the past and i believe every1 found theyr behaviour natural and feels quite good with the characters.Dont forget that M&Y is only 13 eps so that means that they cant do much for that.The way they present the story is imo the best cause they keep us in agony until the very end.Also every1 could imagine what would happen on School days from the beggining but no1 actually knows whats going on on M&Y.I mean ppl really cant w8 for ep 12 and 13 to learn about Sana and Nanakas past.Which means that we will get a better grasp of their characters through their past and we will understand things better.U really surprised me cause u think M&Y as i think for School days since they reason i didnt liked was Makoto was like Brand Pit(even Better) and he moved his finger and suddenly all vergines near him dissapeared(guess how).Also sorry if i was a little rude in my last post didnt meant it in a bad way :D
Dec 14, 2007 5:27 AM
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What a dramatic episode :O
It's starting look like School Days...
Dec 14, 2007 12:45 PM

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I dont think they introduce Hoshino as the main villain of the series... I dont think ppl hated her after they saw her rather felt sorry for her...What regards no character development i agree theres not much BUT the same goes for school days.But since this isnt a School days post i wont talk about the 1000000 girls that makoto f^^ed which was very beliavable and characteristic developed(Hironic).From the 1 ep we understand that even though Sana is the Main character so goes for the rest.What i mean is that they actually have the twins + Sana + Nanaka.We get glimpses from the past and i believe every1 found theyr behaviour natural and feels quite good with the characters.Dont forget that M&Y is only 13 eps so that means that they cant do much for that.The way they present the story is imo the best cause they keep us in agony until the very end.Also every1 could imagine what would happen on School days from the beggining but no1 actually knows whats going on on M&Y.I mean ppl really cant w8 for ep 12 and 13 to learn about Sana and Nanakas past.Which means that we will get a better grasp of their characters through their past and we will understand things better.U really surprised me cause u think M&Y as i think for School days since they reason i didnt liked was Makoto was like Brand Pit(even Better) and he moved his finger and suddenly all vergines near him dissapeared(guess how).Also sorry if i was a little rude in my last post didnt meant it in a bad way :D


Heh I get heated as well...=P

The whole they can't explain everything in 13 episodes is bullshit now. ef a tale of memories is doing one hell of a job developing the series from start to finish. If one visual novel adaptation can do it right, why can't myself;yourself? Hell ef only has 12 episodes to work with and it already completely overshadows m;y. What makes things even better was that the first episode of ef gave the impression of a generic romance anime, but the characters were fleshed out from top to bottom. M;Y gave the same impression, but kept the generic romance theme and just winged it.

ef a tale of memories - anime adaptation of the unreleased ef a fairy tale of the two, presumably to help raise the popularity of the game. It started out as a marketing tool for the VN and became one of the best melodrama's in anime history. The only thing they have to worry about is ending it right.

myself;yourself - anime adaptation of the unreleased myself;yourself, presumably to help raise the popularity of the game. It started out as a marketing tool and remained a marketing tool. The show has its own merits if you are into generic romance, but lack of any real development makes this show sub-par. The numerous plot holes left to be solved and only 2 episodes left, expect more "best episodes" due to the producers cramming everything they can into those 2 episodes. Sad they forgot about the other 10...

@DeathfireD
Every romance anime nowadays with even a hint of any violence will get compared to School Days. My opinions about m;y aren't based on what I saw on School Days, it is based on what I watched over the course of 11 weeks.

Lets see...they shafted Aoi and Asami but devoted 3-4 episodes to Hanako? Now I don't know about you, but Aoi is definitely a main character while Hanako is only a side one but she gets her own 3-4 episode arc?

We are introduced to Asami as a potential love interest for Sana...but that didn't go anywhere now did it? Asami was just cast aside once she served the purpose of turning Nanaka into a tsundere character. Well at least she got to star in the twins' arc as the antagonist...then we magically have Sana tell what's wrong with her!

Now we have Sana, the supposed main character who still remains a mystery even after 11 episodes have passed. You expect viewers to relate/feel empathy for him when we virtually know nothing about the guy? What happened to him? Why is he scared of bloody knives? Why doesn't he take off his wristwatch? Why does his mother call him everyday? These questions could and should have been answered already. Now tell me, has Sana been developed at all when we know nothing about the circumstances that shaped his character?

If people who watch myself;yourself find it very enjoyable, good for you. Just be aware that this concept has been done before and done better by other animes.

Maybe m;y can still redeem itself over the next 2 episodes, we'll see:-)
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DeathfireD said:

@everyone that hated this series or ep
I think most of the people that have a negative opinion about this series are basing it on what they saw in School Days, which they should not. It seems like from the start of this series (and almost every other series that came out at the same time), when we find out Sana has a problem with blood on knives, everyone "gets that school days vibe" but this show is supposed to be entirely different. You should not come into a show expecting it's going to be like something you already saw. That messes up the whole series for you and implants a "standard" that you think every series will or should be base off of in your head.


I've only watched one episode of School Days, so that's not it. The problem with Sana and blood is that... we don't know why. We got those hints, and the hints that there's some history with him and his family, but we didn't get any exposition on that. If the writers are going to put things like that in, it's right for the viewers to expect something out of it. We didn't get it, and we're not likely to.

I was basically rooting for characters to start stabbing each other because the show often really dull stuff. It almost feels like it's caught between romantic comedy (like harem shows) and more serious drama like, for instance, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien. In that show, it started out doing sort of dull high school stuff, then BAM a plot twist that carries us to the end. Myself; Yourself doesn't have anything like that. The plot is too thin for a plot twist to move the story along much. It's like having a character in a harem show end up in the hospital in one episode, then they're fine next week and the event is forgotten.
Dec 14, 2007 4:34 PM
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Lol, I seriously find this funny. I can't believe an anime like Myself;Yourself can generate a conversation like this.

Firstly, I disagree with what DeathfireD said about having expectations. Fact is, people will have expectations. To simply say "don't have any expectations" is nonsense. It's a natural human process utilised to create standards in which to make judgments.

Secondly, this episode revealed a plot twist. Well, I would consider it as one. Think about it, you get a few dull episodes then "bam" you get this unexpected "twist. :)
Dec 14, 2007 7:41 PM

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I havent watched ef so i cant compare allthough i heard is good.Also it seems u stucked at the character development part... Ok i agree on what u said about Sana.So what? This doesnt make the anime less enjoyable... Like Makoto was really developed in each ep fuc^^g a new girl or should i say a FEW girls.Or honestly on Melancholy of haruhi... Great character develpment.Hi im a timr-traveler cant say more-hi im an esper cant say more-hi im an alien cant say more.LOOL Iv seen till ep 11 and i cant imagine a single reason why ppl like so much that alien girl (dont remeber name) and overall haruhi.My point is that since u rated these 2 animes 10 u cant say M&Y is a typical comercial anime cause it isnt.I rated 10 and i believe it worths itIt had its funny moments emotional moments and ofc agony and curiosoty.These elemets were nowhere to be found in both haruhi and School Days so... If M&Y is comercial and typical then these 2 are way below it
Dec 14, 2007 9:24 PM
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i think i actually cried at the last scene
god im such a sucker for these kind of animes.
fuckingshit.
Dec 14, 2007 9:42 PM
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I can't believe that there are users who can even rate this anime higher than a 7. Seriously.
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Dec 15, 2007 1:48 AM

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Cloud1234 said:


I dont think they introduce Hoshino as the main villain of the series... I dont think ppl hated her after they saw her rather felt sorry for her...What regards no character ...made it shorter


@DeathfireD
Every romance anime nowadays with even a hint of any violence will get compared to School Days. My opinions about m;y aren't based on what I saw on School Days, it is based on what I watched over the course of 11 weeks.

Lets see...they shafted Aoi and Asami but devoted 3-4 episodes to Hanako? Now I don't know about you, but Aoi is definitely a main character while Hanako is only a side one but she gets her own 3-4 episode arc?

We are introduced to Asami as a potential love interest for Sana...but that didn't go anywhere now did it? Asami was just cast aside once she served the purpose of turning Nanaka into a tsundere character. Well at least she got to star in the twins' arc as the antagonist...then we magically have Sana tell what's wrong with her!

Now we have Sana, the supposed main character who still remains a mystery even after 11 episodes have passed. You expect viewers to relate/feel empathy for him when we virtually know nothing about the guy? What happened to him? Why is he scared of bloody knives? Why doesn't he take off his wristwatch? Why does his mother call him everyday? These questions could and should have been answered already. Now tell me, has Sana been developed at all when we know nothing about the circumstances that shaped his character?

If people who watch myself;yourself find it very enjoyable, good for you. Just be aware that this concept has been done before and done better by other animes.

Maybe m;y can still redeem itself over the next 2 episodes, we'll see:-)


I'd just like to point out that I'm not saying this shows is the best, however I do like it's progression up to this point. I'm only stating that people are comparing it to School Days as if the two shows where supposed to be the same. This is happening to every friggen show that came out after School Days ended and it's getting annoying as hell. Even Minami-ke and Kimi-Kiss have been subject to this.

Second, Aoi may have been one of the originals but shes clearly only there for comedy relief. You're right though, if she was considered a main character she should have had more character development. But up to this point I consider her a side character only used in happy episodes or parts that the creators want us to feel no drama or conflict in. Not to mention that nothing has changed in her life other then her eyes. So their would be no point in wasting any more eps trying to progress the character any more then they already have.

Third, I agree with the Hanako thing. It could have been shorter but in a way she was used to help progress Syusuke Wakatsuki character development. With out her or anyone having a crush on him, we would have never found out that he only thinks about being with his sister. Almost every ep that Hanako was featured in had some info about Syusuke that we didn't know about before. We also got to understand his feelings and see how he was when he wasn't around his sister. Not to mention that we all got to see a different side of Sana too. Since hes the main character we always need to see him do something productive.

Forth, Asami was put in to make the twin story more interesting as well. Imagen if she wasn't in it for a sec. There probably would have been no conflict at all and the story would have been bland. Even if they had the step mom write the letter to the school, don't you think the twins running away would have just been boring? I thought it was all nicely planned out to make us all think the step mom did it and then toss us this curve ball. As much as I don't like comparing anime with other shows I have to say that part made me think of Death Note and how random shit would just pop up and make you think.

Last If you don't understand why they haven't built up Sana's character then stop and think about it for a sec. In the ep where he freaks out about the blood on the knife for the first time, if they did somehow explain why he freaks out would you still want to watch the show? I'd probably watch up to the part where Nanaka's past is talked about and then ditch the show simply because there would be no suspense build up. Right now the creators are holding off his past for that simple reason, they want all us fans to contemplate on whats going to happen. Come up with all our theory's and then, right when we think we know whats going to happen, guess what? Another curve ball thats gonna answer everything and make us all say WTF or second season and make us all mad.

@Censored_Vagina - I agree about Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, that story was nicely done but still cant really be compared to this show. That show was your simple everyday "boy likes school girl friend, girl hooks boy up with best friend, boy goes out with best friend to make girl happy, conflicts happen, boy ends up with girl". Myself; Yourself is based around past events. Almost everything that has been happening has been influenced based on those past events that where finding out about. There's really no love love conflict. It's purely just Sana coming back to his home town after being gone for years and finding out how everyone's lives changed wile he was gone. In all honestly I hope they kill the old lady but other then that....theres really no one else to kill.

@radiantfire - Thats true, but why would you go into a new show and specifically expect it to be based on the same premises of a past show you saw that seems the same? I certainly don't intentionally go into a new show and assume it should be like something I saw last month. That would defeat the whole purpose of watching anything new. In honesty though, I too thought of School Days when I saw the knife scene simple because School Days just barly finished airing. But after that the thought of School Days totally left my head since Myself; Yourself has been totally different up to this point.

I hope my comments back to you guys are understandable. It's been hard for me to make my points clear latlee.
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Too lazy to quote so here we go =P

If you think Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu is below M;Y, what world are you living in? Yes I meant that as a flame, I can't believe someone would actually utter such sinful words. Nagato Yuki is just awesome, either rewatch Haruhi again or go read the novels.
I enjoyed School Days primarily because of its radical concept. I've watched many a romance anime, but I have never seen such an ending. What makes it great was that the ending was justified, you can't help but feel sorry for Kotonoha.

A valid point on how producers want us to theorize about future events, the problem is that good producers would drop us some hints as to what is happening. We the viewers aren't left in the dark when shit hits the fan. It may be unexpected, but the smart viewer should be able to anticipate future events based on the development of previous episodes. A great example of this is Higurashi no Naku Koro ni. The unexpected events that occurred can actually be deduced from the previous events of past episodes. The unexpected event was justified due to it having proper development.
M;Y on the other hand just throws us curveballs that appear out of nowhere. The events are based on nothing, making it impossible to predict. Now the entertainment value of such a thing is high, but it makes the show feel shallow. I want to be entertained, but I also want to delve into the story. Without any development, I'm just being entertained by shallow plot devices.

KGNE isn't your everyday "boy likes school girl friend" blah blah blah type of show. Did you even watch the show at all? The anime itself is based on the events that occurred after Haruka's accident. How can you say that its not based on past events?
There is a "love love" conflict in M;Y although its shallowly developed, Asami being used to make Nanaka jealous ring any bells?

People can't help comparing previous shows to new ones. If a previous show left an impression on you, the new show should be able to live up to the standards you set based on the previous show. I try not to do this, but some shows just set the bar so high that few shows can ever reach it.

To each his own I guess o-O
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People can't help comparing previous shows to new ones. If a previous show left an impression on you, the new show should be able to live up to the standards you set based on the previous show. I try not to do this, but some shows just set the bar so high that few shows can ever reach it.

To each his own I guess o-O


Ok sure i agree. Anyways i love myself as many ppl do(not saying is the best anime ever or anything like that) and no matter what u say it just doesnt sound logical... HOW CAN U LIKA THAT NAGATO ALIEN WHEN SHES TALKED FOR 5 MINS IN 12 episodes??im so bored to even watch the last haruhi ep... Seriously u just give fail excuses about shows u like and then "bury" the others u dont.I told u why i think myself is awesome and i justified my opinion.I like the show anyways and u cant change my mind(especially when u call it "swallow" and u rated haruhi and school days with 10).So comparing M&Y to haruhi and school days i liked it much much more and so i rate it high.Thats all
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Too lazy to quote so here we go =P

If you think Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu is below M;Y, what world are you living in? Yes I meant that as a flame, I can't believe someone would actually utter such sinful words. Nagato Yuki is just awesome, either rewatch Haruhi again or go read the novels.
I enjoyed School Days primarily because of its radical concept. I've watched many a romance anime, but I have never seen such an ending. What makes it great was that the ending was justified, you can't help but feel sorry for Kotonoha.

A valid point on how producers want us to theorize about future events, the problem is that good producers would drop us some hints as to what is happening. We the viewers aren't left in the dark when shit hits the fan. It may be unexpected, but the smart viewer should be able to anticipate future events based on the development of previous episodes. A great example of this is Higurashi no Naku Koro ni. The unexpected events that occurred can actually be deduced from the previous events of past episodes. The unexpected event was justified due to it having proper development.
M;Y on the other hand just throws us curveballs that appear out of nowhere. The events are based on nothing, making it impossible to predict. Now the entertainment value of such a thing is high, but it makes the show feel shallow. I want to be entertained, but I also want to delve into the story. Without any development, I'm just being entertained by shallow plot devices.

KGNE isn't your everyday "boy likes school girl friend" blah blah blah type of show. Did you even watch the show at all? The anime itself is based on the events that occurred after Haruka's accident. How can you say that its not based on past events?
There is a "love love" conflict in M;Y although its shallowly developed, Asami being used to make Nanaka jealous ring any bells?

People can't help comparing previous shows to new ones. If a previous show left an impression on you, the new show should be able to live up to the standards you set based on the previous show. I try not to do this, but some shows just set the bar so high that few shows can ever reach it.

To each his own I guess o-O


was that comment about Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu to me? I haven't even mentioned it in any of my posts let alone seen it yet.

Second the producers have been dropping hints and if you havent noticed them then maybe you should re watch the show carefully or maybe read the comments that everyone has been posting since the first ep.

KGNE is a boy likes school girl friend blah blah blah type of show. It has no ties with Myself; Yourself at all. The story's are not even similar. It's true that one accident in the past did cause the majority of the drama in the future but that was only one instance of it. Almost everything in Myself; Yourself removes around loads of past events that have happened that we're still finding out about. It wasn't just one event. KGNE is your typical romance story thats been made over and over again just in different ways. Go search for Romance on myanimelist and start watching some new shows and you will notice what I mean. Better yet start watching Hentai game based Romance shows (like School Days was) and you will notice the similarity's even more.

School days was unique because the game was basically about killing who you wanted in the end or fucking them. The Anime team knew thats what everyone wanted and figured that's how they would make the most money out of it. Myself; Yourself is not based on a "killing type" game or hentai so you cant compare the two. I'm not gonna continue posting about this because we both seem to have our own strong opinions about the show. The only thing I can suggest is if you don't like it then don't watch it since it seems you've been comparing it to every top rated anime ever made and expect it to be the same.
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ZOMG. I can't believe this discussion even exists!

Listen Cloud1234, if you want people to take your comments seriously then I suggest you write in a more logical manner. I can't be stuffed reading your comments if they're so incoherently incorrect.

Also, Yuki pawns. :) In fact, she's a lot better than every single character in Myself ; Yourself.

DeathfireD, KGNE isn't your typical romance anime. If it was, then I bet you could tell me a few other shows that deal with the themes that KGNE highlighted. Moreover, School Days wasn't about killing. Are you blind? It was harem. The ending was just surprising because the show was mostly about cheating and having sex with different girls. Jeez.

Myself ; Yourself shouldn't be compared to either KGNE nor School Days. Why? Simply because it doesn't even deal with romance much. At the start I expected it to be a romance anime. Sadly, it's not. There are hints of romance but its so shallow that I wouldn't even label it as such.
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Moreover, School Days wasn't about killing. Are you blind? It was harem. The ending was just surprising because the show was mostly about cheating and having sex with different girls. Jeez.


play the game and you will understand that it was mostly about killing and thats basically why everyone played and watched the show. The whole point of the game was to pick a girl or girls you wanted to end up with in the end. However almost all the endings where "bad" (ie. someone killed someone else or killed them self). With the exception of a few good ones and one Harem ending. School Days in my opinion was not a Harem at all. If it was, then everyone would have ended up happy together in the end which was not the case.

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Myself ; Yourself shouldn't be compared to either KGNE nor School Days. Why? Simply because it doesn't even deal with romance much. At the start I expected it to be a romance anime. Sadly, it's not. There are hints of romance but its so shallow that I wouldn't even label it as such.


I agree, thats what I've been trying to say the whole time but people keep tossing in other shows and trying to pick out similarity's. The whole point of my first post was to say that School Days has nothing to do with Myself; Yourself yet several people continues to make posts saying it did. Next, somehow KGNE popped into the subject even though the show has absolutely nothing to do with myself; yourself. Next was Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu....and I'm still trying to figure out why that show was even mentioned. This thread has turned into a "lets compare myself; yourself to every anime romance".

PS. I don't have time searching for KGNE similar anime since thats not what this thread was originally about. All I can say is go watch a few shows and you will see clear similarity's. One show that pops to mind is I''s Pure. It may have nothing to do with "Past future" timeline crap but the story is generally the same with a few minor changes.

I think we should all just stop posting about this and wait till the next eps come out before continuing.
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I was vey logical in all my posts allthough i knew when i brought up Haruhi ppl will get pissed.Im not gonna discuss it anymore since theres just no point.Just accept the fact that most ppl love the series and cut the crap like"Omg i cant believe they rate it more than 7" etc.When i find the courage to watch the last 2 haruhis ep im gonna write a really logical and explained reason of why haruhi is soooo overrated anime so plz end the discusion of it in this forum.Also since the anime is also not over i suggest to just watch t all and have an overall discusion in the end.
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Firstly, Cloud1234 you are still making a lot of errors. So whatever. I know we won't meet eye to eye on this so just move on buddy.

Secondly, DeathfireD, we are discussing the anime - not the game. Also, School Days is harem. If you don't accept that, then I will deem you stupid. Harem = many girls on one guy. Makoto had a fling with 8 girls (by my count). Thus, it's harem.

Blah blah blah blah blah. "Allthough" lol. How funny.
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Myself;Yourself, School Days, and KGNE are all visual novels, SD and KGNE are eroge while M;Y is probably PG-13 or something.

All of these shows/VN's can be considered HAREM!!!
If you have no idea what harem means, go look it up.

For the record, I don't compare animes to previous ones I've seen. I make my decisions solely on what the anime has shown. After deciding whether I like the show or not, then I compare it to other shows that I've watched. I've already invested 11 weeks into M;Y, why not add 2 more and be done with it? Primarily the only reason why I'm still watching the show, and of course hoping for an SD ending ;-) xD

I love it how people consider generic harem romance anime as the best thing ever made. I guess if you don't want to think, stick to the generic stuff. If people honestly think that KGNE is just your typical romance anime, then you obviously haven't delved deeper into the plot.

But like I said, stick to the generic stuff if you can't be bothered to analyze what you watch o-O
Dec 16, 2007 1:59 AM
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If a SD ending happens, I'm rating this show a 7. xD
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I was definitely surprised by the news that she was going to be sent overseas...funny how that's often the best way to get rid of your kids from the parent's point of view. This was a sad episode, i kept waiting to see if something was going to happen and they wouldn't have to run away. I wonder what's going to happen now.
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I thought Hoshino was just a supporting character made to look like there would be a love triangle between her, Sana, and Nanaka .. who would have thought ...

I hope Shuri and Shuusuke returns!!!
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Woah certainly the most eventfull and teary episode of the series so far..
Didn't see Hoshinos confession coming at all, Didn't want the twins to leave and when Sana rode after the train with the bike I was moved.

I acctually have a hard time guessing whats coming next.. Probably some Sana/Nanaka action

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i lovee this episode, i don't have any problem with the sudden confession whatsoever, i was just like whaaaatt, whaaaat, whaaa..wow..
i'm gonna miss shuuu, hoping they'll return, the parting was really touching..
Dec 17, 2007 5:57 PM

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Finally caught up with this series. Just in time for the climatic events...
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Ritsuka said:
I think this episode was really boring, at least the first part was. I don't like the idea when suddenly the cute and kind is the bad person and blah blah, so made up...


I agree. The whole Asami thing felt so contrived, I think it was just there to give the twins more of a reason to leave.

The end was very sad, I was surprised. I hope to see the twins back, but I seriously doubt we will, unless there's a second season.
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5/5! I really loved that episode!!!!!!!!!!

Really unexpected from Asami.
I cried when Shuu and Shuri left the town and Sana runs after them...
And he said the thing that Shuu said to him when he left the town... :'(
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okay well i defenitely alomst cried at the end with the whole train shuu / sana moment ;.; i love it when anime shows tie things together like that... it always hits me hard.

anyway i had NOOO idea hoshino had written the letter, and the love for shuri? wowww... just wow....

DeathfireD said:
Every time I see a post with "omg School Days vibes" It makes me want to just bash my head into a table over and over again.

I just got to say that this show does defenitely have "school day" vibes. first of all the character designs are extremely extremely similar, and they both have a twisted side to them. I'm not saying that myself; yourself is just like school days, they're very different, but i cant help thinking of school days a lot when i'm watching this show. it in no way affects how i view the show, its just a relation i make. it happens with other anime shows as well. some shows just have a similar "feeling" to them. (like i think of da da da when i watched selfish mirumo de pon) blahhh yeah.

for the record, school days was really good. and this show is even better in my opinion. i just hope they tie all the loose ends up. if not im gonna be pissed.
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Nice Ep...

Really strong friendship there...
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This episode was something...i even cried at the end when Shuu was leaving with her sister and Sana was saying
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WTF o.O...

It's pretty late in the series so I was waiting to see some development but this type of curveball is just way out there. Honestly I do have to agree with PimpToad about the pacing though. They basically unloaded a bombshell practically from thin air. This pretty much clears the way for Nanaka unless they decide to throw another last minute curveball. Maybe he'll end up with the loli >_>

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
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i seriously didn't see that coming... it was just too unexpected. i loved how they decided to finally give hoshino a story, but i never knew that such a cute girl could actually be so bad... and be up for yuri at that...

kudos to sana for realizing what shuu said when he left, if i remember correctly, he didn't hear a word of what shuu said. it was also a nice touch, didn't expect shuu to cry though, shuri also. i guess shuri wasnt that close to sana as shuu.

and also, i thought that hoshino said she loved shuu.. but it was actually shuri... my reaction to that was something along the lines of "wtf, yuri.... NO!"

also, the OP didn't really hint to hoshino being like that, sure it hinted to a sad past, but no to the fact that she was the one to trigger shuu's and shuri's leave.

next episode looks like nanaka x sana... i really want to know what the hell happened with sana, and i want to see their relationship increase... also, i could have sworn that hoshino liked sana... meh.
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Best episode in this anime ... allmost as great as the "text episode" on ef - a tale of memories ...

It was beutiful !

if i could rate this episode only then it would definitely get a 10/10 ...
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I KNEW SHE LIKED SHURI!!! HA!!! now her writing the letter didn't see that coming thought it was a plot by the step mom to get them out of her way... nice...

loved the end and got a lil foggy eyed... Shuu!!! I'll always be your friend tooo!!!!
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Crisu said:
I've been guilty of shouting twincest for a while now, but I think I will follow this blogger's example:

http://hontouni.com/taihendesu/?p=587

I’d like to say that Shuu/Shuri have a wonderful relationship that RL siblings should learn to emulate. Call them siscon/brocon, anything but the degradatory incest/twincest and credit them with the respect they deserve. Here is a sacrificial love worthy of song and praise.

Shuu and Shuri do represent a quality family relationship that has rather faded away in recent generations.


sibling reationship. family relationship infers the parents(the douchbag).

the hoshino being the culpric could have been predicted. remember the episode at the waterpark hoshino was laughing(higurashi style). what can you expect when more than one voice actor for this series was in higurashi?

but the shuu/sana farewell was very heart wrenching, hell the whole episode was heart wrenching.
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Once again, this show has a great scenario and eveything wraps up pretty well. btw the script was written by the "Ever" series' writer Takumi Nakazawa (Ever17, Nevr7, Remember11 etc...).

In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
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Wow...
Yuri +1

I can definitely see some twincest too, though when Shuu and sana were out in the court yard I was totally expecting them to hear a scream or something and come running back into the room and find that someone had busted someone else's oil pipeline.


Oil pipeline, how fantastic!
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I don't think that black blood that big of a deal.
1. Much quantity of blood can be almost black. Not this, but almost. (Hoshino's case)
2. As if this would be an action/horror anime and we see it in every episode then maybe it could be disturbing, but hey this is a drama/romance one!
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It's kind of a shock about Asami but I love the way she thinks.

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lol called it in last one!
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This was quite moving. ^^
I had no idea Hoshino was into yuri, and that she had that little problem with her personality, unexpected things are always nice.
The ending was just great, I really liked it. Best hightlight of the whole episode too.
I wonder if they'll be able to be on the run forever... their dad doesn't really look like the person that cares anyway.
Crisu said:
I've been guilty of shouting twincest for a while now, but I think I will follow this blogger's example:

http://hontouni.com/taihendesu/?p=587

I’d like to say that Shuu/Shuri have a wonderful relationship that RL siblings should learn to emulate. Call them siscon/brocon, anything but the degradatory incest/twincest and credit them with the respect they deserve. Here is a sacrificial love worthy of song and praise.

Shuu and Shuri do represent a quality family relationship that has rather faded away in recent generations.

If you look it from their point of view, you can't blame them for being close.
Twincest... I've heard of siscon, but never of brocon! I just learned something new... yay I guess xD
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Ok, this episode alone made the series go from an average 6/10 to a steady 8/10. So, now I hate Hoshino (srly, she? gone yandere? she send the letter? and is she a lesbian? ...); the twins are gone, [twincest end confirmed], and Nanaka doesn't have anymore reasons to feel that Sana is cheating on her :)
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Excellent episode. The train scene with Sana was really sad.
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