| Would be better to stop, apologise fans for this shit we have seen lastly better known as 'war arc', remake/rewrite it and then continue |
Progeusz said: Again, the big 3 refer only to the western popularity, how do you not get that.JizzyHitler said: I think you should look again at all the WSJ's efforts to replace Bleach with Toriko after Kubo's manga started losing popularity.Progeusz said: I....what? the big 3 just referred to naruto bleach and one piece's popularity IN THE WESTJizzyHitler said: Nope, they won't. You don't realize what Big3 is. It's reserved for Weekly SHounen Jump titles, so HxH and FT don't qualify. Hell, I'm not sure if Bleach was ever anywhere near HxH's manga sales but it was still part of Big3.jayvon said: When naruto ends HxH wont be taking its place in the supposed big 3, fairy tail will due to its insane popularity amongst casual anime fans in the westIf this ends HxH will take it's place so I'm kinda glad. Naruto got a kinda boring anyway. there is no big 3 in japan, there's just one piece then everything else and manga sales over there mean nothing to the west like our sales mean nothing to the west, If they did Sazae-san would be the reigning king of anime above all the big 3 combined Popularity wise hunter x hunter is respected but not popular in the west, it has a die hard fanbase but you have to be downright insane to think its anywhere above bleach's popularity over in the western casual anime watcher's mind, Stop for a moment and think straight a little bit, Sazae-san is completely different type of series. Big3 is about battle shounens. -Zeaos said: I'd say it's Pokémon, Dragon Ball and Naruto.Aren't the most popluar animes in the west, Sailor Moon, AOT and Bleach? -as far as I remember- Also, plural form of anime is anime, not animes. Same with manga. torkio has borderline no popularity in the west outside of a small obscure fraction of the anime fanbase. Fairy tail is popular in the west, more so than HxH and especially toriko, it doesnt matter what their popularity is in the east, The big 3 refers ONLY TO THE WEST Since you didnt get it the first few time ill repeat BIG 3 IS ONLY REFERRING TO THE WESTERN POPULARITY |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Big 3 in general is an idiotic term begin with, I don't know why people still use it. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
Nidhoeggr said: It is a idiotic term, but it still applies since one piece naruto and bleach's effect on the western anime fanbase is still prevalent, if you need any more proof if you go to a con count how many times you see a luffy ichigo and naruto cosplay as appossed to literally anything elseBig 3 in general is an idiotic term begin with, I don't know why people still use it. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Yeah there' no Big 3 anymore, now it's Big One Piece, and it's bodyguards Kuroko no Basket and Magi. I'd give Kishi 3-4 months at best, last time when he was interviewed somewhere in mid 2012, about Tobi's identity, he said we'll get it soon, and 1 month after the interview, Tobi's identity got revealed, so I guess now we can trust him even a little. @Hitler, don't quote me on Big 3 thing, it's done on purpose. |
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Ramkec said: Yeah there' no Big 3 anymore, now it's Big One Piece, and it's bodyguards Kuroko no Basket and Magi. I'd give Kishi 3-4 months at best, last time when he was interviewed somewhere in mid 2012, about Tobi's identity, he said we'll get it soon, and 1 month after the interview, Tobi's identity got revealed, so I guess now we can trust him even a little. @Hitler, don't quote me on Big 3 thing, it's done on purpose. HxH is more popular than Kuroko though I love the 3 of them. |
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| HxH had the potential to be just as big as the three suspects, but sadly Togashi's fucked up schedule denied it this popularity. HxH's sales are still phenomenal and the writing is just as good as OP overall. In any case: Toriko, AssClass, KuroBas and Souma will guarantee good sales even without Bleach or Naruto around. |
NidhoeggrNov 25, 2013 2:06 PM
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
Nidhoeggr said: HxH had the potential to be just as big as the three suspects, but sadly Togashi's fucked up schedule denied it this popularity. HxH's sales are still phenomenal and the writing is just as good as OP overall. Indeed, I hope it doesn't stop airing in the middle of it -sigh- |
| Smiles and laughter are always good, but never forget your Poker Face.~ |
JizzyHitler said: "cancelled" wasn't that serious, I just wanted to pick on Bleach.hiatus = cancelled Yep that makes sense, it took a break to get more chapters, as much as we would like to see bleach fail, its anime ending was not one of them, its building a excess of chapter since it had only single digits worth of chapters left when it ended and will start up again later But well, Naruto and One Piece have episodes every week but Bleach got huge break - that means something. Also its manga sales fell around that time. IntroverTurtle said: Sorry, you're right, it's because of those hiatuses that I forgot HxH is in WSJ (whenever I look at ToC, HxH isn't there) - that's also the reason why it isn't part of Big3 - manga with huge hiatuses and no on-going anime isn't nearly as marketable as Bleach was.I thought HxH was in Weekly Shounen Jump. Anyways the name was made for those three anime(and we know it's not based on total popularity or sales) so there technically can't be any anime added to it. JizzyHitler said: That's where you're wrong. It's also a thing in Japan. It's mostly a Western term but the meaning isn't limited to popularity in the West.Again, the big 3 refer only to the western popularity, how do you not get that. JizzyHitler said: Stop using this tone as if you were correcting me. We're simply talking about different things. I'm not talking about the West so don't make it out as if I didn't know about popularity in the West. I know but that's not what I'm talking about, it isn't relevant to the point I am making, that's why I'm ignoring it.torkio has borderline no popularity in the west outside of a small obscure fraction of the anime fanbase. Fairy tail is popular in the west, more so than HxH and especially toriko, it doesnt matter what their popularity is in the east, The big 3 refers ONLY TO THE WEST Since you didnt get it the first few time ill repeat BIG 3 IS ONLY REFERRING TO THE WESTERN POPULARITY |
ProgeuszNov 25, 2013 2:10 PM
| FINALLY. |
| Honest??? |
| Dr. Sheldon Cooper " It is no way to make new humans. People coming out of people. Some kind of dirty magic show. |
| Now let's wait for whom it would take less years to finish: for him or for Kubo Taito? ))) |
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| best story ever |
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| Sasuke said something about wanting to become Hokage so that could be the focus of the next arc. Naruto vs Sasuke election battle. Man I hope they play Hound dog's "Rocks" on the final episode. |
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| so............I guess that means anime still has another 200 episodes? guess I can catch up in another year or two :P |
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| Can wait to see how they finish this. |
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| To be fair, it already was on the decline during the last arc before the timeskip. Sasori and Deidara were small highlights but after that is was subpar at best and horrible at worst. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| Good riddance. |
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Nachtwandler_21 said: Now let's wait for whom it would take less years to finish: for him or for Kubo Taito? ))) I think Naruto will end sooner, maybe six months before Bleach. I don't think in 2014, maybe 2015 if we are lucky. |
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VioLink said: Sasuke said something about wanting to become Hokage so that could be the focus of the next arc. Naruto vs Sasuke election battle. Man I hope they play Hound dog's "Rocks" on the final episode. Please don't turn it into a Hitman reborn final battle. I am honestly surprised that people would want it to end during this war with madara, to me that would be a very anticlimatic ending. Because as everyone says the war is one of the most slow progressed and sad excuse of an arc to bring back characters to tie up loose ends. Like i said, this story needs another arc, not another STORY, but just another arc that resolves things from a more personal perspective to the plot. Back when things were not chaotic as all hell and over emo obito causing mass destruction and wars, followed by madara an the jinchuriki's beasts was the only core element of the story. If you look at the story as a whole from a different point of view, obito only turned rogue in part 2 of the manga, madara was only mentioned during that time as well and was all centered around that plot. Our favorite villain Orochomaru kind of got forgetten during all this crazy madness. You remember the amazing sasuke Vs naruto battle from part 1, something along those lines needs to take place involving orochormaru in some way or another before this story ends on good terms. The conflicts between naruto, sasuke, sakura and orochimaru have never been resolved as of yet. The original characters first introduced in the story line, needs to have complete closure at the end of the storyline. |
ArtimesGamerNov 25, 2013 3:16 PM
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| Whoa, i didnt expect this. now both bleach and naruto are ending soon. i wonder who will take their place in "the big 3" |
Tearz said: Whoa, i didnt expect this. now both bleach and naruto are ending soon. i wonder who will take their place in "the big 3" You obviously have not read this thread. |
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kratos_aurion said: Im still am under the impression that bleach's final arc will go on until the late 2010'sNachtwandler_21 said: Now let's wait for whom it would take less years to finish: for him or for Kubo Taito? ))) I think Naruto will end sooner, maybe six months before Bleach. I don't think in 2014, maybe 2015 if we are lucky. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: kratos_aurion said: Im still am under the impression that bleach's final arc will go on until the late 2010'sNachtwandler_21 said: Now let's wait for whom it would take less years to finish: for him or for Kubo Taito? ))) I think Naruto will end sooner, maybe six months before Bleach. I don't think in 2014, maybe 2015 if we are lucky. Aaaa no, this Bleach's arc is the best. |
| Smiles and laughter are always good, but never forget your Poker Face.~ |
| Not a big fan of Naruto, but it's kinda sad to see that it's ending. |
| About time. I'll stick to it until the end . |
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| Announcement so shit people will buy the manga. Job done, i suppose |
| My main interest is what will take it's spot after it's finished. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Myabe it's finally time for me to pick up the manga again |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: Nothing. Mainstream battle shounen is becomming barren land considering WSJ had to bet on Toriko of all things in their efforts to replace Bleach. When naruto ends, they'll be left with One Piece and nothing else. Maybe they'll switch some of their focus to comedies considering how well AssClass is doing?My main interest is what will take it's spot after it's finished. |
| I wish it ended on a better arc though, tbh. Guess it will soon be the Big 2... or just OP left since Bleach isn't doing so hot either. Naruto will still probably run a while before it actually ends though. :P But since went from the climax to nearing the end: another year or two left? |
HaXXspetten said: Agree.about time |
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Remi_ said: You sound angry.Higashi_no_Kaze said: My main interest is what will take it's spot after it's finished. That is interesting. It's wide open for some piece of shit, filler-packed shounen anime to come in and get bashed for a decade or so. Maybe room for 2. Progeusz said: Not really, Toriko is doing good. I've also heard of Nanatsu no Taizai but I don't know what kind of a shounen it is, looks battleish from the cover and synopsis. Battle shounens will never die.Higashi_no_Kaze said: Nothing. Mainstream battle shounen is becomming barren land considering WSJ had to bet on Toriko of all things in their efforts to replace Bleach. When naruto ends, they'll be left with One Piece and nothing else. Maybe they'll switch some of their focus to comedies considering how well AssClass is doing?My main interest is what will take it's spot after it's finished. |
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| The only way that HxH could replace Naruto could be if Togashi actually stopped doing hiatuses. |
Bum Bum Dum Dum |
| Naruto is cancer. A cancer that is killing the industry. |
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IntroverTurtle said: Progeusz said: Not really, Toriko is doing good. I've also heard of Nanatsu no Taizai but I don't know what kind of a shounen it is, looks battleish from the cover and synopsis. Battle shounens will never die.Higashi_no_Kaze said: Nothing. Mainstream battle shounen is becomming barren land considering WSJ had to bet on Toriko of all things in their efforts to replace Bleach. When naruto ends, they'll be left with One Piece and nothing else. Maybe they'll switch some of their focus to comedies considering how well AssClass is doing?My main interest is what will take it's spot after it's finished. Toriko is doing good indeed and it's already been consistent longer than Bleach ever was, so in my book it's superior even if should turn to shit now (which it doesn't look like will happen). But yeah, Toriko is already more than 2 years old and with Naruto and also HxH probably ending in the foreseeable future it really does look like a barren land unless 1 or 2 new titles storm the market. Fairy Tail might come back at some point and could replace one of those two (not my favorite battle shounen, but I've been missing it nonetheless), but it's not really fresh either so if it comes down to only OP and maybe FT without something new on the horizon (I don't think I've missed anything in the past 2 years, have I?) I'm not very optimistic for the future of the genre in terms of long-running shows. But we still have tiem for announcements until Naruto and HxH come to an end, so for now I'm full of expectations. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| And it will end with the most disappointing ending ever as far as the same shit goes currently right now.. |
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| The people who complain and hate are the same ones who read it week after week, it's pathetic and shows just how stupid they are, keep hating, it only makes us stronger. When did one piece's amazing sales start anyway, the 40 to 50th volume? then there's still time for other series. World Trigger has been doing good lately and toriko can go on for 10 to 20 years. Assassination Classroom is not gonna be super long, the author said so himself. Kuroko is probably gonnaend soon too, can only go so far with basketball based on the real world. |
ichii_1Nov 25, 2013 5:09 PM
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| And how many years will this "Final Phase" last exactly? I'm willing to excuse his shitty war if the Madara and Sasuke fights are done as good as possible (which they have the potential of doing) and if the ending is actually decent. Shuhan said: Naruto is cancer. A cancer that is killing the industry. How is it killing the industry? If anything it is helping it. Orga777 said: What a load of shit. The Kage Summit arc was decent, and the Confining the Jinchuuriki arc was just as good as the Kage Summit (if you didn't like the Kushina flashbacks then you have no soul). Sure they weren't as good as the Pain arc, but then again nothing else in Naruto is. The only arc that has been bad since the Pain arc is the war arc.I still find it hard to believe that a series that started off so good, has derailed into complete garbage as much as Naruto has. It han't been any good since the battle between Naruto and Pain, and that was, what? Like 4-5 years ago? |
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IntroverTurtle said: That's the problem - after all the advertising it's only doing good. Ratings finally settled around 5.0 but that's mostly because it airs just before One Piece which is closer to 8.0. Also, Toriko often has worse rankings than anime airing half an hour before it so it doesn't look that great.Not really, Toriko is doing good. I've also heard of Nanatsu no Taizai but I don't know what kind of a shounen it is, looks battleish from the cover and synopsis. Battle shounens will never die. Volume-wise it's even worse - it might look well only if you forget it has 130 episodes anime. It's a battle shounen with long on-going anime and still can't get close to 400k. Titles like Magi, Ao, KnB walk all over it. Fairy Tail and Bleach are still much above and it will likely never change. Bakuman with much less advertising and more niche theme was selling better and they started at similar time. AssClass sells twice as much as Toriko despite no anime and being significantly shorter. When that's the best (and only) candidate for WSJ's #2 after Naruto and Bleach end, I can't see the genre's situation in bright colors. Oh well, One Piece is enough and there are other magazines can put our hopes in. |
ProgeuszNov 25, 2013 4:56 PM
| This should just end already, been dragging far too long tbh. |
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| I hope it ends in late 2015 or better yet never. IntroverTurtle said: I've also heard of Nanatsu no Taizai but I don't know what kind of a shounen it is, looks battleish from the cover and synopsis. Battle shounens will never die. It's in Weekly shounen magazine ( the same magazine that has FT) and it's not really doing exceptionally well in sales ( below 100k) it needs an anime to gain popularity. jayvon said: If this ends HxH will take it's place so I'm kinda glad. Naruto got a kinda boring anyway. Take it's place in what exactly? that doesn't really makes sense. |
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| Forget the damn Uchihas. Just give me confirmation of Naruto x Hinata so I can have sweet dreams and beautiful nightmares for the rest of my shonen reading days. >3> |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: So you're talking about the anime of those two? In that case Naruto even if the manga ends now the anime still has over a year. HxH will probably be a year. Fairy Tail is most likely coming back, in 2014 or so. What about Nanatsu no Taizai? It's an action, fantasy, adventure, shounen and it's doing quite well. Bleach will probably also be coming back once this arc or whatever is close to ending. AssClass while mostly a comedy from what I've heard should be long running. I still don't see how shounens are a barren wasteland. Toriko is doing good indeed and it's already been consistent longer than Bleach ever was, so in my book it's superior even if should turn to shit now (which it doesn't look like will happen). But yeah, Toriko is already more than 2 years old and with Naruto and also HxH probably ending in the foreseeable future it really does look like a barren land unless 1 or 2 new titles storm the market. Fairy Tail might come back at some point and could replace one of those two (not my favorite battle shounen, but I've been missing it nonetheless), but it's not really fresh either so if it comes down to only OP and maybe FT without something new on the horizon (I don't think I've missed anything in the past 2 years, have I?) I'm not very optimistic for the future of the genre in terms of long-running shows. But we still have tiem for announcements until Naruto and HxH come to an end, so for now I'm full of expectations. Progeusz said: Here were go again, you saying all Toriko is, is advertising. First of all it's settled around 6 while One Piece is at 8. Toriko's ratings are still good, even if the ones surrounding it are doing better, it won't be cancelled. I've even looked at some past ratings, you always say it's One Piece that's supporting the anime right? Where's your proof? When I looked at those ratings while One Piece was up around 10, the anime before it were around 2.0, so your theory doesn't really fit. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone else doesn't too.That's the problem - after all the advertising it's only doing good. Ratings finally settled around 5.0 but that's mostly because it airs just before One Piece which is closer to 8.0. Also, Toriko often has worse rankings than anime airing half an hour before it so it doesn't look that great. Volume-wise it's even worse - it might look well only if you forget it has 130 episodes anime. It's a battle shounen with long on-going anime and still can't get close to 400k. Titles like Magi, Ao, KnB walk all over it. Fairy Tail and Bleach are still much above and it will likely never change. Bakuman with much less advertising and more niche theme was selling better and they started at similar time. AssClass sells twice as much as Toriko despite no anime and being significantly shorter. When that's the best (and only) candidate for WSJ's #2 after Naruto and Bleach end, I can't see the genre's situation in bright colors. Oh well, One Piece is enough and there are other magazines can put our hopes in. You're really going to compare Toriko with Bakuman. You don't need advertising if the mangakas who worked on it were the ones who did Death Note, that's advertising right there. And you haven't said anything about Nanatsu no Taizai, like always you're just obsessed with Toriko. |
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