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diyedas said: Cabron said: Any ideas as to why Haruto proposed to Saki? I already have one idea, but I just want to know what everyone else thinks? I was thinking out of guilt and feeling the need to take responsibility. Also possibly because he doesn't want her to be lonely anymore. Could be several reasons. Mostly I'd say because he feels responsible. He probably thinks the rape is his fault, so he needs to do something about that. Saki doesn't seem to see it that way, and she's right. It's why she won't let him apologize, because he shouldn't have to. Despite all that happened Saki's strong and she still likes Haruto, or else that date wouldn't have happened. I do believe that Haruto has some feelings for Saki with the way he acts and that could be another reason he proposed. This, but main focus seems to be that he doe snot want her to be alone anymoreat the same time being able to relate to her - the separation that he experiences after becoming valvrave pilot - Saki has been living that since childhood. |
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| I cant take this anymore.... Why Haruto why!?? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LOVE FOR SHOKO??? q.q Please explain this to the fangirls PLEASE! want more L-Elf and you together T^T |
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ranzero said: oh internet, how hilarious you can be this is awesome |
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Cabron said: Any ideas as to why Haruto proposed to Saki? I already have one idea, but I just want to know what everyone else thinks? I think it's because he's trying to take responsibility for what happened. I mean I doubt his feelings for Shouko changed that quickly within 11 episodes. Which I guess is good and bad, because I don't think Saki wants to be pitied. Plus, they're both "vampires" so he's probably given up on being Shouko anyways. Although I was kind of surprised at the end when Haruto proposed, it didn't really come out of nowhere, since he really did want to talk to Saki about it earlier. And it's not like they're getting married right away...right? If Saki accepts, then they're probably just going to be fiancees for the time being, I think. Poor Akira, I think she has a really bad case of social anxiety disorder, since it looks like she had been scared since she was a kid of the idea of going to the outside world. I realize that Shouko is just trying to friends with Akira and helping her, but sometimes her kindness doesn't always turn out right. Still, Akira took a pretty big step forward by responding to Shouko in her own voice (though I don't think Shouko understood just how big of a deal that was for Akira). I see why the student council president is so protective of his sister now. Hmm aside from that, L-elf looked like he was ready to shoot Shouko if she agreed, but even she is able to rationalize that saving everyone else is more important than saving her father. It's sad of course, and her cry did kind of hurt (but I still have a bias against her D:). I guess what made me feel bad for her was that afterwards, she said that she couldn't do anything, but I don't think anyone else could've either. It was a tough decision to make, but since Shouko has a kind heart and cares about everyone, she isn't the type to let her emotion for her family to overcome everyone else's safety. Or maybe I'm giving too much credit to her... |
tingyJun 20, 2013 8:14 PM
| This anime. I am so not looking forward to the second season now. |
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shanimebib said: This anime. I am so not looking forward to the second season now. It's the opposite for me. I am so looking for the second season now. I must applaud to this series. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| @Vepenar: Rukino's not gonna die, episode 7 shows her alive in 200 years. Fai said: diyedas said: Cabron said: Any ideas as to why Haruto proposed to Saki? I already have one idea, but I just want to know what everyone else thinks? I was thinking out of guilt and feeling the need to take responsibility. Also possibly because he doesn't want her to be lonely anymore. Could be several reasons. Mostly I'd say because he feels responsible. He probably thinks the rape is his fault, so he needs to do something about that. Saki doesn't seem to see it that way, and she's right. It's why she won't let him apologize, because he shouldn't have to. Despite all that happened Saki's strong and she still likes Haruto, or else that date wouldn't have happened. I do believe that Haruto has some feelings for Saki with the way he acts and that could be another reason he proposed. This, but main focus seems to be that he doe snot want her to be alone anymoreat the same time being able to relate to her - the separation that he experiences after becoming valvrave pilot - Saki has been living that since childhood. -nods- I agree with that. There's many reasons and I think that's definitely a huge one. They understand each other now and he cares deeply for her, doesn't want her to be alone anymore. This is why I think he'll eventually fall in love with her. |
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ranzero said: oh internet, how hilarious you can be zomg my sides |
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AlexTheRiot said: ranzero said: oh internet, how hilarious you can be zomg my sides I shouldn't laugh at this. but it's just too great! |
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| now I'm wondering, how will shoko carry out her confession while Haruto has already had waifu, harem route ??? LOL okouchi just keep torturing her character.... |
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ranzero said: OK I chuckled a little bit...oh internet, how hilarious you can be diyedas said: After rewatching this episode, I pretty much agree with what you guys have been saying/typing.@Vepenar: Rukino's not gonna die, episode 7 shows her alive in 200 years. Fai said: diyedas said: Cabron said: Any ideas as to why Haruto proposed to Saki? I already have one idea, but I just want to know what everyone else thinks? I was thinking out of guilt and feeling the need to take responsibility. Also possibly because he doesn't want her to be lonely anymore. Could be several reasons. Mostly I'd say because he feels responsible. He probably thinks the rape is his fault, so he needs to do something about that. Saki doesn't seem to see it that way, and she's right. It's why she won't let him apologize, because he shouldn't have to. Despite all that happened Saki's strong and she still likes Haruto, or else that date wouldn't have happened. I do believe that Haruto has some feelings for Saki with the way he acts and that could be another reason he proposed. This, but main focus seems to be that he doe snot want her to be alone anymoreat the same time being able to relate to her - the separation that he experiences after becoming valvrave pilot - Saki has been living that since childhood. -nods- I agree with that. There's many reasons and I think that's definitely a huge one. They understand each other now and he cares deeply for her, doesn't want her to be alone anymore. This is why I think he'll eventually fall in love with her. I was thinking that he proposed because we wants to take responsibility, but also because he doesn't want Saki to be alone. I think those are two main reasons, but it's like diyedas said there's many reasons behind it. Welp, that's one of my idea(s). Now I'm wondering why L-Elf/Eru-Erufu pulled out his gun... |
CabronJun 20, 2013 8:42 PM
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ranzero said: oh internet, how hilarious you can be AHAHAHAHHA. This is gold. |
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Cabron said: diyedas said: After rewatching this episode, I pretty much agree with what you guys have been saying/typing.@Vepenar: Rukino's not gonna die, episode 7 shows her alive in 200 years. Fai said: diyedas said: Cabron said: Any ideas as to why Haruto proposed to Saki? I already have one idea, but I just want to know what everyone else thinks? I was thinking out of guilt and feeling the need to take responsibility. Also possibly because he doesn't want her to be lonely anymore. Could be several reasons. Mostly I'd say because he feels responsible. He probably thinks the rape is his fault, so he needs to do something about that. Saki doesn't seem to see it that way, and she's right. It's why she won't let him apologize, because he shouldn't have to. Despite all that happened Saki's strong and she still likes Haruto, or else that date wouldn't have happened. I do believe that Haruto has some feelings for Saki with the way he acts and that could be another reason he proposed. This, but main focus seems to be that he doe snot want her to be alone anymoreat the same time being able to relate to her - the separation that he experiences after becoming valvrave pilot - Saki has been living that since childhood. -nods- I agree with that. There's many reasons and I think that's definitely a huge one. They understand each other now and he cares deeply for her, doesn't want her to be alone anymore. This is why I think he'll eventually fall in love with her. I was thinking that he proposed because we wants to take responsibility, but also because he doesn't want Saki to be alone. I think those are two main reasons, but it's like diyedas said there's many reasons behind it. Welp, that's one of my idea(s). Yeah I don't think you care really narrow it down to one particular reason. In life there are many reasons to a person's actions, and I think it's good storytelling when it gets you to make multiple theories to the reasons. I can see a way for this marriage plot to work splendidly, but I don't know if they'll take it. All it involves is a long engagement and them eventually truly falling in love with eachother. However I think Saki will probably not accept the proposal immediately. |
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BrownSlush said: Ep.12 Preview shots: and here we go again, no hints for the fifth VVV pilot, btw, just out of curiousity, from where did you get that preview ? |
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ranzero said: BrownSlush said: Ep.12 Preview shots: and here we go again, no hints for the fifth VVV pilot, btw, just out of curiousity, from where did you get that preview ? Chinese sub stream. Dunno if its okay to post stream links here. I have no idea why gg's cap doesn't have the previews. |
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BrownSlush said: Ep.12 Preview shots: Everyone in the preview has their mouths open except L-Elf. L-Elf's always gotta be different from everyone else. |
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diyedas said: BrownSlush said: Ep.12 Preview shots: Everyone in the preview has their mouths open except L-Elf. L-Elf's always gotta be different from everyone else. Mainly because its direct continuation of Shouko's "I AM IN DESPAIR" scene at the end of episode. BrownSlush said: Ep.12 Preview shots: Welp, I am guessing they are going for a kill-em-all. Bassically I expect 99% of Student Nation to get slaugthered, Shouko to die after a short yandere fit, Cain to steal one valvrave, Akira to pilot the purple one. |
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diyedas said: Do you think this has something to do with Ep.7, maybe?Cabron said: diyedas said: After rewatching this episode, I pretty much agree with what you guys have been saying/typing.@Vepenar: Rukino's not gonna die, episode 7 shows her alive in 200 years. Fai said: diyedas said: Cabron said: Any ideas as to why Haruto proposed to Saki? I already have one idea, but I just want to know what everyone else thinks? I was thinking out of guilt and feeling the need to take responsibility. Also possibly because he doesn't want her to be lonely anymore. Could be several reasons. Mostly I'd say because he feels responsible. He probably thinks the rape is his fault, so he needs to do something about that. Saki doesn't seem to see it that way, and she's right. It's why she won't let him apologize, because he shouldn't have to. Despite all that happened Saki's strong and she still likes Haruto, or else that date wouldn't have happened. I do believe that Haruto has some feelings for Saki with the way he acts and that could be another reason he proposed. This, but main focus seems to be that he doe snot want her to be alone anymoreat the same time being able to relate to her - the separation that he experiences after becoming valvrave pilot - Saki has been living that since childhood. -nods- I agree with that. There's many reasons and I think that's definitely a huge one. They understand each other now and he cares deeply for her, doesn't want her to be alone anymore. This is why I think he'll eventually fall in love with her. I was thinking that he proposed because we wants to take responsibility, but also because he doesn't want Saki to be alone. I think those are two main reasons, but it's like diyedas said there's many reasons behind it. Welp, that's one of my idea(s). Yeah I don't think you care really narrow it down to one particular reason. In life there are many reasons to a person's actions, and I think it's good storytelling when it gets you to make multiple theories to the reasons. I can see a way for this marriage plot to work splendidly, but I don't know if they'll take it. All it involves is a long engagement and them eventually truly falling in love with eachother. However I think Saki will probably not accept the proposal immediately. |
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Cabron said: diyedas said: Do you think this has something to do with Ep.7, maybe?Cabron said: diyedas said: After rewatching this episode, I pretty much agree with what you guys have been saying/typing.@Vepenar: Rukino's not gonna die, episode 7 shows her alive in 200 years. Fai said: diyedas said: Cabron said: Any ideas as to why Haruto proposed to Saki? I already have one idea, but I just want to know what everyone else thinks? I was thinking out of guilt and feeling the need to take responsibility. Also possibly because he doesn't want her to be lonely anymore. Could be several reasons. Mostly I'd say because he feels responsible. He probably thinks the rape is his fault, so he needs to do something about that. Saki doesn't seem to see it that way, and she's right. It's why she won't let him apologize, because he shouldn't have to. Despite all that happened Saki's strong and she still likes Haruto, or else that date wouldn't have happened. I do believe that Haruto has some feelings for Saki with the way he acts and that could be another reason he proposed. This, but main focus seems to be that he doe snot want her to be alone anymoreat the same time being able to relate to her - the separation that he experiences after becoming valvrave pilot - Saki has been living that since childhood. -nods- I agree with that. There's many reasons and I think that's definitely a huge one. They understand each other now and he cares deeply for her, doesn't want her to be alone anymore. This is why I think he'll eventually fall in love with her. I was thinking that he proposed because we wants to take responsibility, but also because he doesn't want Saki to be alone. I think those are two main reasons, but it's like diyedas said there's many reasons behind it. Welp, that's one of my idea(s). Yeah I don't think you care really narrow it down to one particular reason. In life there are many reasons to a person's actions, and I think it's good storytelling when it gets you to make multiple theories to the reasons. I can see a way for this marriage plot to work splendidly, but I don't know if they'll take it. All it involves is a long engagement and them eventually truly falling in love with eachother. However I think Saki will probably not accept the proposal immediately. Hmm. Didn't think about that. I'd say it's highly possible. Although I'm not sure how it correlates with what was happening in that scene. Then again the "promise" thing didn't seem like it really correlated with the scene either. |
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| BAWs im all in for Saki fk shoko lmao..... |
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| I really do not think Shouko will come out alive out of this. 1. Its written by Okouchi. 2. Shouko's character is of the same archetype as Euphemia, Suzaku, Shirley and Shoe. 3. Those characters have also been written by Okouchi. 4. Note the endings of each of those characters. 5. put two and two together. Shouko will either form a fascist Third Galactic Empire and go all yandere on our asses or will end up getting a tearjerking tragic death in a middle of massacre. |
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| And Saki wins. I'm pretty sure up till this point Haruto still has more feelings for Shouko than he does Saki. But it's also clear that he has a soft spot for Saki. Not sure whether this pushes Shouko into a L-Elf pairing, but from what we've seen of Haruto, it doesn't look like he'll abandon Saki after this. Is it just me though or is this "I'm going to marry you when I come back" thing looking like a death flag? This show has just about done everything it wants...and if Haruto goes missing or whatnot, it also explains the promise Saki mentioned 200 years into the future. |
| best girl wins. too bad they didnt follow up with the rape. I swear the ideas for each episode are probably drawn out of a hat and it's like "oh this week, let's go with this plot twist, lul!". |
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| I felt so bad for Shoko but I'm sure she will get more development after this. Well, she might die but I don't think it will happen so soon. I mean, it wouldn't make sense if they killed her off after she heard those words from her father. I feel that she will get stronger whether Haruto will be there for her or not. She already experienced the loss of someone so dear which was her father and she pretty much lost Haruto. Now I'm curious how she will take the whole Haruto/Saki thing. As for Haruto and Saki, it is pretty obvious that they are getting closer and I won't be surprised if Haruto started to develop feelings for Saki. Heck, I think this is most probably what's going to happen. Haruto's proposal might be seen as him taking responsibility for what happened and the fact that he doesn't want to leave Saki alone but I think he will eventually fall for her. I have a feeling that something will happen to Haruto in the last episode which will delay the whole marriage thing but I'm pretty sure he will show up again in the second season. He might not be the same person but he might still seek for Saki at the end. As for who will pilot the purple Valvrave, it is most probably Akira. She is a very interesting character and so she needs to be developed more. I think losing someone dear to her will lead to her piloting the fifth VVV but this is just speculation on my part. I won't say I wasn't a bit disappointed by the events of this episode but I guess we will have to accept it. I mean, I like Shoko and I think she and Haruto make a more interesting pair but I also know that it is almost impossible at this point. Akira is another girl I might like with Haruto but this isn't likely to happen. For now, I think Haruto will definitely develop feelings for Saki but again, this show is unpredictable and a lot of unexpected things might happen. |
HatsumiShinoguJun 20, 2013 9:25 PM
| Prediction: Haruto gets kidnapped. Shouko dies. Akira gets into V6 and lots of students die. The episode ends. |
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| while i feel bad Very bad when see Shouko tears im very happy haruto propose to saki Roar! u go playa! but really seriously u all so stuck up about haru done with saki=bad in this world sometimes love starts from the bed u know? what is wrong? that haru so raped saki ? i stand my ground thats not rape she agreed midway she can resist more if she not really want it but no this EP confirms it saki loves haru the way she covered shouko call from haru says it all and also what about shouko? don u hear in anime heroes is polygamy master^^ |
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deenman23 said: ''Jus tbecause she does not consider it rape, does not make it not rape.'' dude...are you insane? if she WANTED it its NOT rape are you mentaly challenged??rape culture??gtfo pls and stop being stupid and if you want to get tehnical...SAKI raped haruto because he wasnt him self SHE took advantage of HIM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_culture Congrats for proving my point. |
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Tyrel said: ranzero said: oh internet, how hilarious you can be AHAHAHAHHA. This is gold. Want to know whats more funnier? |
Exblaster said: so is his face its a golden bright lite of death Tyrel said: ranzero said: oh internet, how hilarious you can be AHAHAHAHHA. This is gold. Want to know what more funnier? time to run like hell i say |
deenman23 said: Lol King of Political Correctness and logical thinking right heredude...are you insane? if she WANTED it its NOT rape are you mentaly challenged??rape culture??gtfo pls and stop being stupid and if you want to get tehnical...SAKI raped haruto because he wasnt him self SHE took advantage of HIM ShikiAshGrave said: Man you really can't read the atmosphere. If they were to have a future together, the circumstances behind how they got there would cloud it forever.while i feel bad Very bad when see Shouko tears im very happy haruto propose to saki Roar! u go playa! but really seriously u all so stuck up about haru done with saki=bad in this world sometimes love starts from the bed u know? what is wrong? that haru so raped saki ? i stand my ground thats not rape she agreed midway she can resist more if she not really want it but no this EP confirms it saki loves haru the way she covered shouko call from haru says it all and also what about shouko? don u hear in anime heroes is polygamy master^^ |
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diyedas said: BrownSlush said: Ep.12 Preview shots: Everyone in the preview has their mouths open except L-Elf. L-Elf's always gotta be different from everyone else. Because it was all according to plan. |
GateLambda said: People talking about Saki appearing 200 years into the future? Can someone share what episode was it? I completely missed it. Thanks! Beginning of episode 7. |
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| In before Shouko's dad is still alive. Until you see his body, you'll never know. And ONLY 74% was destroyed. 26% chance. Communicating issue? Interference. 26% chance. 26% chance. |
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Cabron said: and they're dumb, because it wasn't rape.SapphireDragon said: Some MAL users don't agree with that.this anime is one huge shitstorm, lol, i love it. loled at the scene where he saw the bikini billboard at the beginning, and i wonder how that marriage proposal will work out... hmmm, interesting. oh yeah, and about this whole rape business, IT WASNT FREAKING RAPE, SHE WANTED THE D AND SHE GOT IT. lol, but seriously, she didnt consider it rape, she still loves haruto. |
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