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| Hm... i dunno .. i had to rate E7:AO as stand alone series other wise it would score pretty low. (because it seems to me AO goes heavily against anything that E7 stands for. Even Renton and Eureka are absolutely weird beyond of what time could do to them. Another thing I tough Renton became also not fully human and he was meant to watch over Earth together with Eureka and half of the coraliens. And WHT was with so many Nirvashes out there I know one of them was machine copy but ive spotted at least 2 other ones? Are LFOs multiplying now ? XD Have i mentioned that main Nirvash got enlightened and left with other half of coraliens yet he was Renton's personal a lift in AO? .. ) Sent with Mal Updater |
( Currently interested in OP MC genre. Recommendations are welcomed, preferable those yet not on my list ) |
| I think it'll it would benefit everybody's health if we pretend it doesn't exist. As far as im concerned this sequel never happened. |
| what the hell with the ending??? if Ao destroy all the scab coral, history changed. No scab coral, no eureka, no Ao...... BAM.... All Gone |
| Terrible as expected. Anticlimactic ending.The good ending seemed forced and honestly (just like a majority of this series I had no fucking idea what was happening). Ao brought back Eureka to her timeline,saved the world from the Scubs,then went to the past/future,then finally got back to his timeline after being non-existent or something. Well this anime was terrible to begin with (and so was Eureka Seven so can't say it was unexpected).4/10. |
VanishingKiraMay 14, 2014 6:54 PM
muge said: I didn't quite grasp the context of these series of lists that you posted. Are they peculiar observations that you made, or are they a running list of inconsistencies/plot holes/unanswered questions that you documented? Honestly, it's been so long since I last watch this series that to go through this with you 1:1 on every point would be difficult, or if that could even be possible at this point (I and surely many others have forgotten a lot of the nuanced details). But now that I think about it, Johansson definitely was an enigma that was never really explained. What I can do, however, is direct you to a brief timeline and then a theory I proposed on how the Quartz Gun works (posts #345 and #348, respectively). I'm not sure how much of this thread you've looked over (all of the "AO sucks" and "AO anime doesn't exist" aside), but there was some pretty good discussions about many different facets of the anime as a whole which you might find as useful reference starting around pg. 18 and after in particular (and some other good discussions in the earlier pages, too). If anything, these could be a good starting point for continued discussion or could be useful resources in which to compare your own analysis. Personally, I found a second viewing of the series (marathon instead of 1 ep per week at the time it aired) helped my understanding and greatly improved my overall thoughts of the anime. |
Kjeldoran109May 25, 2014 12:12 PM
| After almost two years in my 'on-hold' list and trying to finish it up, I get this ending. Maybe I should stop halfway through the series. It would have been better, I think if it was a spin-off were Eureka or Renton didn't exist. The parallel worlds are damn confusing. I feel that I've wasted a lot of hours trying to finish this. That's all I have to say and I don't want to visit here anymore remembering this anime. Glad that this is over with. 5/10 It was still entertaining despite the storyline going downhill. |
| garbage anime that is all... |
| feel free to check out my list and message me recommendations :) |
| Pretty nice ending, I actually quite liked the overall resolve as I thought it would end in a more open ending but this was a fairly decent closure to this season I must say! At first I didn't really liked it that much as it had a totally different atmosphere than the first TV series but in the end it was still pretty lovely to watch and had its own interesting concept with time traveling and parallel universes so all in all I liked it but not as much as the first season! |
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| The only problem I had with the ending was the lack of epilogue for all the characters besides Ao... just like the original actually... People are way over hating this, it was an okay sequel to a series that needed one considering how it ended... twice. 8/10 not as good as original, but fine enough. |
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| Ok the series was pretty decent. I think it is not nearly as good as Eueka Seven, but still good if you look at it as a stand alone series. Still worth the watch! |
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mitamaking said: Not as good as the original is giving this show too much credit. The only problem I had with the ending was the lack of epilogue for all the characters besides Ao... just like the original actually... People are way over hating this, it was an okay sequel to a series that needed one considering how it ended... twice. 8/10 not as good as original, but fine enough. The anime is 5/10 at best. I know a lot of people were butt hurt about a lack of a 'happy' ending. Mind you that really isn't the problem with this series. They screwed up the minute they decided it would be a sequel to the original Eureka Seven. Why? Cause when creating a sequel to something, the biggest sin you can commit is throwing out everything the original set up. Eureka Seven AO doesn't follow any of the logic of the original, isn't set in the same world (literally), has an entirely new cast of bland generic characters you have no attachment to, and throws out all the themes and subject matter that the original explored. Making the point of being a sequel absolutely pointless. Sure the main character is Renton and Eureka's Son, and you do eventually get to see these characters appear in the series. Yet these play out like cameos, or after thoughts. The icing on the cake to all of this is the deus ex machina that is the Quartz Gun, and alters reality. A device that is never properly explained, undoes what little character development the show had (as it's use means certain characters change roles completely, or disappear from being involved with our protagonist), and at the end rewrites all the events of the show for no reason other then they can. Making everything you watched literally pointless and irrelevant just like the series itself. The show wasn't bad for not having a happy ending... it was bad because it didn't have a meaningful story to tell and wasted the viewers time for the most part. Also the vague epilogue of the original was still more meaningful then the entirety of this series. Let alone AO's even more convoluted and vague ending. |
SakiSakiSaki said: God I hope there's another E7 anime, hopefully a proper sequel. Srsly this should be held as a sequel but as another completely separate anime which has only a few nostalgic Eureka Seven connections......As a show it is a 7 for me but if u insist that it is a sequel[which it is not] then it's a 5 @_@ |
| Can't be bothered anymore |
Ichimaru201 said: Ok the series was pretty decent. I think it is not nearly as good as Eueka Seven, but still good if you look at it as a stand alone series. Still worth the watch! At last someone who agrees !!!! |
| Can't be bothered anymore |
| This was okay, just that it was inferior in every possible way to the original, with bland characters, OST and OP/EDs not as good, as well as weird aspects such as Truth and the politics. And the Scub Coral escaped the Limit of Questions by developing Quartz and traveling between universes, causing secrets to appear? That could have been prevented if all the Scub Coral was destroyed. Some episodes were good and some were pretty weak, with a lot of aspects like the Quartz Gun feeling like asspulls. I have mixed feelings about this show, but overall, I was glad that I watched it, if only for Eureka and Renton. |
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nocardigan said: so... they killed all the Ao's potential romance for the sake of keeping Eureka x Renton... way to just piss off the protagonist in the story no one knows hiim in the new world he's in and archetype Truth disappears = AO HAS NO FRIENDS :( I was shipping Naru at the start but the show makes you forget her, and then later on hate her along with the Truth, just to try to make you like her again, when suddently she wants to be on Ao's side?! Fleur was just a much better romance option for Ao, but like almost everything in this anime, it never goes anywhere, almost like the existence of the anime is contradicting itself. Had this Astral Ocean on hold for 4 years! Since the beggining was so lacking in being interesting, at to rewatch some episodes before I continued, but even still, I just cant understand this anime. I know it fails at so many points but it is not easy to pin point them for me, thank god for this post here: That is precisely how one should describe it, gets too much convuluted to its own good, and when it starts to develop and estabelish their characters, we have things like that Quartz gun that alterates the timeline events. Naru sucks, she is just the most retarded character in the show, why does she even exist? Where Bones wanted to go with her development?! Truth was a bad villain too, but it is like almost every problem comes from how convuluted the plot gets, even if it is not the sequel we wanted to have for E7, there are enough promising aspects present here, but the plot fucks it up, especially on these last 2-3 episodes. Because lets be honest, AO wasnt bad, despite suffering from wanting to be a really complex and intelligent story with time-travel and shit, up till episode 20 it was at least enjoyable, and Renton and Eureka appearing is some good fanservice but in the end it just falls on its own feet. Even the animation was top notch, while the OST wasnt as good as the original, Astral Ocean had the ingredients to be good enjoyable show that would not tarnish the original, but the choices they make for the plot, and especially the conclusion just kill it. Just a shame, I really cant give it a good score, it was enjoyable and fun the most part but felt meaningless in the end. Bones shoot themselves in the foot. Wow. 6.4 = 6 |
PlaycoolNov 15, 2016 12:24 PM
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Playcool said: I was shipping Naru at the start but the show makes you forget her, and then later on hate her along with the Truth, just to try to make you like her again, when suddently she wants to be on Ao's side?! Fleur was just a much better romance option for Ao, but like almost everything in this anime, it never goes anywhere, almost like the existence of the anime is contradicting itself. Had this Astral Ocean on hold for 4 years! Since the beggining was so lacking in being interesting, at to rewatch some episodes before I continued, but even still, I just cant understand this anime. I know it fails at so many points but it is not easy to pin point them for me, thank god for this post here... (edited for length) Holy, I got a notification for being quoted 4 years later XD Glad to see my words still hold up. Glad to see that people still feel disappoint from this series. In the last 4 years I even tried to give it a rewatch and it's just has a terrible story. So many issues I can't even reconcile. I mean Truth goes from being a Secret to becoming an Archtype... like how the eff? In what way should he just magically transform from the things that destroys scubs, into a Scub essentially when the Quartz gun is used on him. Since the gun more or less erases whatever it hits from existence across all time... not transform them into something different. Also it still doesn't explain how the Nirvash 2.0 got an archtype... Renton built the Nirvash 2.0 without one... just because Secrets were removed from existence, doesn't affect how the Nrvash 2.0 was built. Like any and all the time line crap was so poorly handled cause the changes don't even rationally add up in any shape or form. I can't even think about this show with out all the gaping plot holes coming up in my mind, let alone the terrible show direction choices. If Cinema Sins reviewed this anime they would probably sentence it to use the Quartz Gun on itself and erase it from existence. |
TheMaverickkNov 16, 2016 12:50 AM
TheMaverickk said: Playcool said: I was shipping Naru at the start but the show makes you forget her, and then later on hate her along with the Truth, just to try to make you like her again, when suddently she wants to be on Ao's side?! Fleur was just a much better romance option for Ao, but like almost everything in this anime, it never goes anywhere, almost like the existence of the anime is contradicting itself. Had this Astral Ocean on hold for 4 years! Since the beggining was so lacking in being interesting, at to rewatch some episodes before I continued, but even still, I just cant understand this anime. I know it fails at so many points but it is not easy to pin point them for me, thank god for this post here... (edited for length) Holy, I got a notification for being quoted 4 years later XD Glad to see my words still hold up. Glad to see that people still feel disappoint from this series. In the last 4 years I even tried to give it a rewatch and it's just has a terrible story. So many issues I can't even reconcile. I mean Truth goes from being a Secret to becoming an Archtype... like how the eff? In what way should he just magically transform from the things that destroys scubs, into a Scub essentially when the Quartz gun is used on him. Since the gun more or less erases whatever it hits from existence across all time... not transform them into something different. Also it still doesn't explain how the Nirvash 2.0 got an archtype... Renton built the Nirvash 2.0 without one... just because Secrets were removed from existence, doesn't affect how the Nrvash 2.0 was built. Like any and all the time line crap was so poorly handled cause the changes don't even rationally add up in any shape or form. I can't even think about this show with out all the gaping plot holes coming up in my mind, let alone the terrible show direction choices. If Cinema Sins reviewed this anime they would probably sentence it to use the Quartz Gun on itself and erase it from existence. Could have quoted you sooner, if I had seen AO after seeing E7 back in 2012, but that beggining was so boring that I got side tracked easily. Like you said, they keep building these developments to just drop them at the next scene, truth is one of the bigger examples, that said, it would had been a nice twist if it had happened in the middle of the season, and was properly explained. The existence of Quartz Gun made this show worst than it could have been. It cripples the whole plot built. Yeah you dont even need to say anything, the plot erases itself with Quartz Gun. |
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| Most ridiculous thing was Renton's voice. Every time when he spoke i imagined Holland |
| I just finished watching this series and I really enjoyed it. I thought Ao was a great protagonist and it was cool how you could see both Renton and Eureka in him. I think more people should give this a chance as long as they don't expect it to be the same thing as the original Eureka 7, which I also watched recently so I didn't have nostalgia for it as much as people who watched it earlier. So sad to watch Ao and Renton fight at the end and not resolve things between them though. Also had a hard time believing him and Eureka would be trying to destroy the corals. Maybe Truth had the last laugh, letting Ao out high in the atmosphere with a board that may or may not work. Glad to see other people were thinking that too. Lol! |
| Ao's first instinct is the punch Renton (as he promised). The Scub Coral escaped the limit of questions in the original universes by using Quartz to go to other universes (Ao's universe in particular). Eureka is a humanoid coral so she can use the same means of inter-universal travel, so her transience is because she cannot control where she wants to go according to Renton? I think Renton's plan was the use the Quartz gun to undo the problems they caused from the root. They referenced the soccer/football episode! Rough timeline is Sometime after Psalms of the Planets: Secrets first attack Scub Corals and then humans? Eureka and Renton are tasked with killing the scubs and one day Eureka and the Gekko are encased in one, travelling to Ao's time/universe whilst pregnant. She meets Ao without realizing he's her son but she returns. But the baby turns to stone due to the high trapar concentration. The next time Eureka is pregnant, Renton sends her to a different universe hoping there are low trapar concentrations there so their child will survive. 12006 AD: Corals travel from Renton's universe to Ao's universe using Quartz and but are repelled by Secrets. 2600 BC: Corals travel back to the time when the great pyramids were built to avoid secrets. I'm guessing this is a bootstrap paradox that creates the point-of-divergence from Renton's universe in the first place. 1700s: Secrets also start arriving in the past to chase the Scub Corals, causing scub bursts. 2000s: Having diverged from the original timeline. Okinawa is independent from Japan. Eureka falls out of the sky thinking it's a place with low trapars. It isn't... but Ao doesn't turn to stone. She disappears trying to stop the quartz. After being erased from the timeline Truth became the Archetype inside Ao's IFO?? Is he the same kind of organism as the archetype inside the typeZERO is or is he like the Secret hacking Georg. Was he really erased or maybe the gun made it so he never got assimilated by scub coral (since that's how it works right? it only erases scub coral and everything else is a side effect). So Ao changes history by being the one to destroy the quartz instead of his mother. Henceforth, he is the one jumping through time while Eureka is reunited with Renton. |
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| The rest are garbage. Only this last 2 episode makes any sense... Now I really need a sequel for this garbage. To properly give a wonderful happy ending with the four of them (yes, including Ao's sister would be a great story). The OP/ED's are the only ones who made me like this anime. |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
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