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Aug 27, 2008 2:28 AM
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Murder-suicide ftw!
Aug 27, 2008 12:36 PM
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I'm surprised that I already knew it was murder-suicide, normally I'm pretty slow with these kind of things. However it was kinda obvious she was having a hard time. This series is nice
Nov 5, 2008 1:07 PM
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Was not surprised one bit

Also, never steal from a little girl :D
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Nov 6, 2008 7:32 AM
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Not surprised either. He deserved it anyway. Is it really that hard to understand that they are cyborgs but have brains, and feelings? jerk.
Nov 17, 2008 5:55 AM
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Still, he did go out with Elsa upon her request. I'd like to think that his little chat with Jose/Guiseppe eventually got to him and he was willing to do her a favor just this once but it was already too late for him.
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Jun 23, 2009 10:18 PM
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Whoa, Elsa really did go Berserk.
But now that Jose knows the truth, what's gonna happen now?
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Jan 15, 2010 7:51 PM
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Hope because of this Jose's and Henrietta's relationship doesn't change, although it might...
Jan 21, 2010 11:36 AM
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hahaha i knew it and that bastard did deserve it, Elsa only wanted a little bit of affection :(


Mar 3, 2010 7:17 PM
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Heh, I think that this happened was spoiled in the previous chapter's comments, lol. Still a pretty darn good episode. Shame it took more then half the season for it to start getting this good.
Such junk...
Apr 6, 2010 7:22 AM

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Un~, it was a pretty good episode - damn geezer got what he deserved. However I suspected that it was Elsa who killed him and then comitted suicide.


May 23, 2010 4:17 PM

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The murder-suicide was predictable, but this episode was still perfect.
Aug 31, 2010 10:00 AM

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Very predictable but the fact that Henrietta would do the same scares Guise.

But all in all, they're just little girls who want affection.
Nov 5, 2010 7:20 PM

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He totally deserved getting shot like that. He wouldn't condition her more so she could get rid of those feelings and he wouldn'd do something nice either = \
It scares me that Henrietta pretty much told Guise that if he didn't love her back she would shoot him and then kill herself =S
huh?
Aug 5, 2011 8:01 AM
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Somehow I think the cyborg program is going to crash and burn.

I'm predicting that the fratellos will all have tragic endings, but I really hope not. The remaining girls are all really sweet.
Dec 17, 2011 12:50 PM

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The only thing that could have made this whole story arc better......putting them on vacation, with Else dead and all that.

Then during the interview, flashback to the mission.

Because when you get the backstory first....It was pretty obvious from the beginning it was a murder/suicide.
Dec 26, 2011 3:20 AM
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I finally picked this back up after not finishing it for a while, and I saw this resolution coming a mile a way. I think it's one of the reasons I like Josai so much and the way he handles Henrietta even if most of the other handlers think its a bit too kind.
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Feb 13, 2012 10:16 PM

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Henrietta is so lucky to have such a nice master like Jose. Though she is so freaky in a way... =s
Feb 20, 2012 1:15 AM
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very sad but I kinda figured from a few episodes back. I would have done the same if I was in the same :/
Mar 4, 2012 10:04 AM

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Why are people saying that he deserved to be killed? Because he didn't show Elsa any affection? Seriously?

Yes, what he did was pretty cold and heartless but someone doesn't deserve to die because of it.
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Mar 25, 2012 6:54 PM

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Saw it coming! But Henrietta should not have shown the possibility to the two section one agents.

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May 2, 2012 12:38 AM

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Huh they built it up as if that was some sort of twist but it seemed damn obvious to me, I was hoping one of the other girls had done it.
Nov 5, 2012 8:51 AM

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I knew from the last episode that Elsa killed her handler then suicided..So it wasn't a surprise..But that episode with Henrietta crying then acting like killing herself..I thought she did..God,..I was so scared..This show is somehow depressing :(
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Jan 31, 2013 5:23 PM

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yeah we all knew that it was Elsa it wasn't exactly hard to work out more sad knowing that Henrietta would do the same D: the last scene was quite dramatic...

also found Henrietta's speech to the woman quite emotional, and sad that she feels useless towards her master without a gun in her hand, and the she is only useful as a cyborg :(
Jan 17, 2014 5:43 PM

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Oh wow quite intense episode, especially that ending! Well let's see what's next!
Mar 23, 2014 1:23 AM

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That was pretty creepy when Henrietta reenacted the murder suicide. Great episode

Jul 15, 2014 10:33 PM

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Zeally said:
That was pretty creepy when Henrietta reenacted the murder suicide. Great episode
Yea, I really thought that she shot herself.
Oct 21, 2014 6:51 AM

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I think everyone got it right with the murder-suicide. Lauro deserved it. It's harsh but if he was going to treat Elsa like trash, he could've taken the time to condition her no? You know, just like Jean with Rico.

Ugh I still hate the idea of conditioning.
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Oct 21, 2014 12:06 PM
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Yea like everyone els who's been seeing the same show it was obvious that Elsa shot him and herself. Did the big wigs not think the girls would go berserk if you kept acting cold towards them and treating them like tools. They are cyborgs not robots. Its two different things. Just cause you slap on some robotics on a human doesint mean their emotions are gone. Though it seems most of the handlers understand this. Only jean and the now dead guy dont seem to get it.
Feb 7, 2015 8:18 PM

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The "twist" wasn't meant to be the highlight of this episode... the way it was revealed was.
Aug 26, 2015 11:31 AM

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Spotted yandere in this ep Elsa.

Aug 27, 2016 9:22 PM

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Predictable = / = bad. That was executed terrifically even if we all knew it was a murder suicide.
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The "twist" wasn't meant to be the highlight of this episode... the way it was revealed was.

Exactly this.
Sep 22, 2016 3:10 AM

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Iszumi said:
Hope because of this Jose's and Henrietta's relationship doesn't change, although it might...


Jep, I hope it won't. Guise must be a little scared now. And even more sad about the situation than he usually is.

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Predictable = / = bad. That was executed terrifically even if we all knew it was a murder suicide.
Tien said:
The "twist" wasn't meant to be the highlight of this episode... the way it was revealed was.

Exactly this.


Yep, it was very clear what happened after the last episode. This just confirmed it. The main point was rather to give some in-depth insight into the psychology of the girls and the difference between them and their relationships with their handlers. I thought it was brialliantly done and quite touching - kind of sweet yet unbelievably sad as well.

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Why are people saying that he deserved to be killed? Because he didn't show Elsa any affection? Seriously?

Yes, what he did was pretty cold and heartless but someone doesn't deserve to die because of it.


You mean killing is worse than enslaving, brain-washing, conditioning and using someone, as a tool? I'm not saying he deserves to be dead, I'm just curious why people seem to think death is the worst possible thing that can happen in life.
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Would have been a good episode if the murder/suicide wasn't so painfully obvious.

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Mar 18, 2017 5:46 PM

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Tien said:
The "twist" wasn't meant to be the highlight of this episode... the way it was revealed was.


Exactly. Murder-suicide was pretty obvious from last episode, at least for me and Iam not one who easily predict/making theories what happen next.
But learning Henrietta is same psycho as Elsa is rather shocking.
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Jul 7, 2017 8:24 AM

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Yeah, most viewers were suspecting that it was just a matter of time before Elsa went off the rails in the first episode she appeared. The fact that basically any of them are at the risk of turning on their handlers, probably even Triela, is what's really scary. Sleep well, Giuse!

I appreciated that Elenora essentially conducted an interview with Henrietta under the pretense of a grocery run, as it's rare for her to open up to someone when Giuse isn't around.

Twigglet said:
Why are people saying that he deserved to be killed? Because he didn't show Elsa any affection? Seriously?

Yes, what he did was pretty cold and heartless but someone doesn't deserve to die because of it.

I'm not celebrating his death but let's not pretend Lauro was the real victim here. He knew exactly what he was doing, just like all the other members of Section 2. Some people would even argue that they all deserve everything that's coming to them, given what they're putting these kids through, such as the extensive body modification without consent, the brainwashing and the fact that they're essentially slaves.
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It was sorta obvious but kudos for the drama.
Nov 17, 2018 11:30 AM

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Seems I was right despite it being kinda obvious.
Also the chase scene was nuts.
Dec 27, 2018 5:35 PM
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A very nice episode with a touch of action, character development, and cooking. Moral of story:
Jun 22, 2019 6:11 AM

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I felt really really bad for Elsa, that Lauro didn't give a damn to her. Henrietta's reenactment made me skip my heartbeat



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Aug 18, 2019 1:48 AM

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Damn Henrietta you'll break your parts

Yep that seems right with two bullets present on the scene
If they're sniped there shouldn't be any bullets
If they're ambushed there's no way only 2 bullets shot to kill them both

I like those two Section 1 guys.. or guy and girl xD
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Jul 27, 2022 10:08 AM

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Henrietta's reenactment of how things played out was pretty rough. I wonder if all the girls have thought about it to that degree. It's hard to say how stable they'll remain too, I feel like at any time they could just flip and be like, "If you don't do this for me then I'll kill us both." Is this whole setup even worth it?

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Nov 16, 2022 11:57 AM

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Some confirmation on Elsa indeed having done a murder-suicide, although Henrietta re-enacting what happened was questionnable.

Dec 2, 2022 5:21 PM
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Henrietta snaps on vacation when her Camera bag is stolen.
We get the solution at the end, Elsa had just snapped over Lauro's horrible treatment of her.
Dec 21, 2022 4:26 AM
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Welp, they're raising them to be ruthless killing machines, so unless you know you have absolute control over them, you better have treated them right fam


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Aug 2, 2023 8:15 AM

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I had a feeling that's what happened to Elsa ;_;
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I haven't finished the episode yet but that fake out death of Henrietta genuinely had me sobbing I thought she actually just went ahead and did it, I'm so happy she's still alive but god I need to breathe that seriously had me go from worry, to shock to intense sobbing to overwhelming relief in the span of like 10 seconds.

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